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A90963 Clerico-classicum, or, The clergi-allarum to a third war. Being an answer to a pamphlet, intituled, A serious and faithfull representation of the judgements of ministers of the Gospel within the province of London, contained in a letter from them to the Generall and his Councell of Warre. Delivered to his Excellency by some of the subscribers, Jan. 18. 1648. Which may likewise serve for a brief answer to their late vindication, relating to their former actings, touching the capitall punishment of the person of the King. / By John Price, citizen of London. Price, John, Citizen of London. 1649 (1649) Wing P3340; Thomason E544_1; ESTC R204338 47,303 74

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the King be murthered the Clergy of this Kingdome have murthered him one part of them being the cause of his sin filling and furnishing him with principles of tyranny and another party of them stirring up the people and conjuring them in the name of Christ to rise up against him and to oppose him even unto death Affirming that men guilty of blood must not be at peace with untill it be avenged page as Mr. Love in his Sermon at V●bridge did If so be that true religion which we have Covenanted to preserve doth teach this Doctrine these Subscribers in their serious and faithfull representation of their judgements may doe well to declare it Secondly If so be they will grant that Kings and Rulers are not to be suffered to live as they list to murther kill and destroy their Subjects to burne their Houses and ruine their Families at pleasure and never be accomptable for the same to their people over whom they were set but ought to be brought to punishment as many even of the Presbyterian● and Protestant Divines have held as shall be declared then if Kings may be dealt withall in a judiciary way why are they so angry that the late King was brought to cond●gne punishment if they say they had no authority to judge him I demand who had authority to doe it If they say no Court by the lawes of the Land had any authority hereunto then it would be worth our enquiring whether every man even to the last man left was not bound to lay his hands upon him for the murtherer must not be suffered to live but must surely be put to death the Land must not be defiled and polluted with blood If you say the Lords and Commons should have done it and not the Commons alone it is demanded what if the Lords refused to joyne with them and put them off by an adjournment of their House c. If it be replyed that then the whole Representative should doe it and above halfe of them were violently kept out of the House and detained prisoners making themselves thereby an unparliamentary Junto as Mr. Prinne called them it is replyed that those that were so detained voted a Treaty with the King after the Houses when they were free had resolved voted and declared upon pai● of Treason that there should be no further Addresse unto him nor any Message be carried from him both Kingdomes having declared against any Treaty with the King untill satisfaction for blood already spil● and security for the peace of the Kingdome endeavoured a peace with him and thereby to contract the guilt of the blood of the three Kingdomes upon the Land which those that had power and assistance to prevent ought not to suffer that true religion which wee had covenanted to preserve and defend requires satisfaction for blood And this is considerable that the commands of God to doe Judgement and Justice to put to death the Murtherer is given and delivered in the same phrase and manner of speech a● all the rest of the commands of God Thou shalt not kill thou shalt not steale c. So the lawes of punishing murtherers were given to the children of Israel and not to Moses ●●ly or the Judges and Princes In Israel N●mb 35. 10. And the Congregation was to judge betweene the slayer and the revenger of blood vers 24. Whether it was done wittingly and of purpose or by accident and it is said vers 31. YEE shall take no satisfaction for the life of a Murtherer c. And what is more common in Scripture then this that if the King doe popular wickednesse the people suffer because the King cannot doe such wickednesse but by the people and the people ought no● to suffer the King so to doe And if the people doe wickedly the King not punishing them the King suffers because did he execute judgement and justice the people would not doe wickedly and God hath not exposed either the King to suffer by the people or the people by the King without controul or just punishment proportionable unto their mutuall demerits and that the people should not suffer their Kings Rulers to doe wickedly but ought to punish them according to their demerits hath been the declared judgement of many Protestant Divinee I shall begin with one of these Subscribers not that I think he deserves the honour of priority but that his own● mistake may be the more obvious unto observation It is Mr. Christopher Love Pastor of Anne Aldersgate in his Sermon preached at Vxbridge and printed having spoken before of the blood-guiltinesse of the King yea intimated unnaturall and horrible blood-guiltinesse in him as if he had been guilty of K. James his death and Prince Henrie's death the blood of the Protestants in R●●hel and the Rebellion of Ireland and all the Protestant blood shed there pag 23. of the said Sermon stiled Englands Distemper and thereby made him the troubler of England as Achan was of Israel hath these words page 32. It was the Lord that troubled Achan because bee troubled Israel Oh that in this our State Physicians would resemble God to cut off those from the Land who have distemperd it Melius est 〈◊〉 perea● unus quamunitas Immedicabile vulnur Ense recidendum est ne pars sincer a trabatur But yet more plaine page 37. Speaking of those with whom we should not admit of a peace hath this intire sentence Thirdly Men who he under the guilt of much innocent blood are not meet persons to be at peace with till all the guilt of blood be expiated and avenged either by THE SWORD OF THE LAW OR LAW OF THE SWORD else a Peace can neither be safe nor just Mr. Love will not say that the King was not guilty of much innocent blood lest he should contradict himselfe neither will he say that blood-guiltinesse can be expiated but by blood lest he should contradict the Scriptures neither can he say but the King was cut off either by the sword of the Law OR LAW OF THE SWORD without which he hath already said that a Peace can neither be safe nor just Again Mr. John Knox the Scottish Reformer a man of known Religion and Learning of the Presbyterian judgment in his 78. page of his Book called the appellation of John Knox having declaimed against the establishment of Idolatrous and persecuting Kings and Rulers by the people hath these words Neither can oath or promise binde any such people to obey and maintaine Tyrants against God and his truth knowne but if rashly they viz. the people have promoted any manifest wicked person or yes ignorantly have chosen such an one as after declareth himselfe unworthy of Regiment over the people of God and such be all Idolatrous and cruell persecuters MOST JVLTLY MAY THE SAME MEN DEPOSE AND PVNISH HIM that unadvisedly before they did nominate appoint and elect Againe Doctor John Ponnet a Protestant Divine in his Book● called Ashore
it A SERIOVS AND FAITHFVLL REPRESENTATION OF THE JVDGEMENTS OF MINISTERS OF THE GOSPELL WITH IN THE PROVINCE OF LONDON CONTAINED IN A LETTER FROM THEM TO THE GENERALL AND HIS COVNCELL OF WARRE DELIVERED TO HIS EXCELLENCY BY SOME OF THE SVBSCRIBERS JAN 18. 1648. wherein we observe First the Letter writers set forth first by their function Ministers of the Gospell secondly the place of their residence and relation WITHIN THE PROVINCE OF LONDON Secondly the persons to whom it wan written THE GENERALL AND HIS COVNCELL OF WARRE Thirdly the nature and subject matter of this Letter viz. ASERIOVS AND FAITHFVLL REPRESENTATION OF THEIR JVDGEMENTS c. First Jer. 23. 21. the Letter-writers are as they say Ministers of the Gospell so the false Prophets of old pretended to be the Prophets of the Lord so the Pope Christs grand Embassadour and Vicar upon earth so the Popish Priests and Jesuits the Ministers of Christ so the Prelates and Prelaticall Parsons Vicars and Curats the Ministers of the Gospell so many others as faithfull serious judicious learned and godly as these that are of quite contrary judgement to them and the contents of this Letter doe stile themselves the Ministers of Christ messengers of the Gospell c. Which of these shall the people beleeve Surely who ever among them can vindicate their Divine origination these men have administred cause sufficient to question their abilities hereunto especially concerning the present Message which in the name of the Lord they here tender unto the Generall and the Councell of Warre as from the Lord wherein they doe very authoritatively as from Christ charge them for acting things clearely against the direct rule of the Word 〈◊〉 3. though they poynt not to the Text and some of them have promoted incouraged and abetted the very selfe same actions done at another time by other persons as we shall speake too anon which here they have so anathamatized and branded as an accursed thing as if these men had the liberty and power and that from Jesus Christ of making the same actions with all their circumstances their owne interest excepted one while good honourable and commendable and another while wicked vile and intollerable a prerogative which the Almighty himselfe never yet claimed Secondly for the place of their residence and relation THE PROVINCE OF LONDON poore London Thy Pr●phets make thee to erre Micha 3. 5. that bite with their teeth and hee that putteth not into their mouths they even prepare Warre against him how art thou precipitated and hurryed by thy Teachers into oblique crosse and contrary actions one while some of them pretend to a Vision from the Lord commanding thee to doe this thing when at the same time other● of thy See● have the same pretence to a contrary Vision commanding thee still in the name of the Lord and in the authority of Jesus Christ to the most contrary action some injoyning thee a from the Lord to goe no to Ra●●oth Giliad and prosper others in the same name conjuring thee not to goe up upon pains of perishing one while thou must take up Annes by the instigation of thy Ministers requiring and commanding thee in the name of the Lord with fire and Sword to asser● and maintaine the cause of God the truth of Jesus Christ de●e●sie of his worship viz. The Prelaticall faction or the glorious interest of the Ministers of Jesus Christ the Clergy thereof another while thou must arme thy selfe from the same instigations in the name of Jesus Christ to sacrifice thy Gold and thy Silver thy Mon●ye and thy Plate thy Horses and thy servants thy very life and being upon the happy promotion of the house of God the government of Christ a blessed Reformation the suppression of error heresie and blasphemy otherwise more cruely called the service and interests honour and preferments of the Ministers of Jesus Christ the Presbyterian Clergie and the cause thereof how must thou put on thy Armour and put it off againe advance and retreat doe and undoe according to the crooked motions of thy uncertaine Teachers ●ormenting thy minde vexing thy thoughts and harracing thy person into contrary actions by their contrary orders by meanes whereof the ancient love union and goodnesse of thine Inhabitants is turned into hatted division and bitternesse each against other causing thy foundation to shake and thy pillars to tremble which is all the benefit thou hast received by 〈◊〉 exchange of thy late Diocesse for THE PROVINCE OF LONDON The second thing considerable is the persons to whom this devout letter was written and delivered viz. THE GENERALL AND HIS COVNCELL OF WARRE though chiefely intended for the mutions malignant perplexed and distemper'd party of the common people that these letters by the midwifery of James Cranford that bo●ntifull and liberall Imprimatur-donor to any lying scurrious and scandalous Pamphlet against the Parliament and Army might stirre them up if possible to any desperats bloody and dangerous attempt to interrupt the present current of justice to hunt after and to procure at last that savory 〈◊〉 which the soules of these zealous Clergy-men so greatly long for viz. to be listed up into the chaire of impulsory authority and government though it be by the ruines of their native Countrey so that that which Gregory writ to M●●riti●●● concerning the ambition of the Preliticall Patriarcks of Constantinople may be as truly said of our present Clergy-men E●●●●m●re compellor Greg. lib. 4. Epist 323. ac dicere ô tempora 〈◊〉 mores 〈◊〉 cuncta in 〈◊〉 partibus barbarorum juri sunt tradita destructae urbes everso castra depopulatae provinciae c. That is I am compelled to cry 〈◊〉 Oh times Oh manners behold in all the par● of Europe all things cry under the reverence of barbarous people Townes are destroyed ●●●iles overthrowne Provinces are spoyled no labourer inhabiteth the Land notwithstanding the Priests who should lye in ushes upon the ground weeping they are seeking unto themselves names of vanity c. Nay have not we cause to say that the like things have befallen us by the only meanes and procurement of the men of this function for was not the rice of the late sadde and miserable Warres the pride and arrogancy of ●hose that stiled themselves the Ministers of the Gospell the Embassadors of Christ viz. the proud Prelates And was not the late second Warre and the flames thereof inkindled and blown up by the Pulpitincondiaries the like Ministers of the Gospel Embassadors of Jesus Christ viz. The ambitious Presbyters who are now againe by their fi●y tongues and ●urious pens scattering their 〈◊〉 Pamphlets among the people and hissing them on to a third Warre resolving as it appeare to s●e the Kingdome in ashes but they will have their wishe● A third and last thing considerable in the Title of this letter is the nature and subject-matter thereof viz. A SERIOVS AND FAITHFVLL REPRESENTATION OF THEIR JVDGEMENTS That you are serious
Standard against you then you stirre up the people from another Article of the Covenant engaging the discovery of all such as have beene or shall be Incendiaries Malignants or evill instruments by hindering thereformation of Religion and those pas●ges obliging the preservation of the rights and priviledges of Par●ament c. If the Parliament stand in your way and joyning ●ith the contrary party may hopefully help you slye to tha●●rt and article of the Covenant engaging for the preservation 〈◊〉 defence of the Kings Majesties person and Authority c. As 〈◊〉 the Scripture in the severall vein●s thereof and the Solemne ●ague and Covenant in all the Articles thereof intended ●othing else but Presbyterie and as if Presbyterie were no●●hing else but the lifting you up into an absolute indepen●ent uncontroulable Supremacy in all Ecclesiasticall dignity ●nd glory and by your example are all contrary paties taught 〈◊〉 plead the Covenant those that you call Sectaries Schisma●eks c. plead the Covenant engaging each to go● before other 〈◊〉 matters of Reformation The Presbyterian pleads Cove●●nt-engaging conformity as they urge with the Church of ●●●tland The Parliamenteer pleads Covenant engaging to ●●serve the rights and privledges of Parliament The Royallist ●●●ads Covenant engaging to preserve and defend the Kings Majesties Person and Authority The Armists plead Covenant ●●gaging to preserve the liberties of the Kingdome c. So that you have made the Covenant a meere contradictions thing like unto one of the Diabolicall Oracles of the Heathens spea●●ng nothing certaine but ambiguitie● but let us a little examine how pertinently you bring i● in in this place to shew the Parliament and Armie their wickednesse in going about to ●ring the late King to his Tryall for his vitious bloody and tyrannicall Government you put them in minde of their Solemn League and Covenant to preserve defend the Kings Majesties Person and Authority in the preservation and defence of 〈◊〉 Religion and Liberties of the kingdomes that the world may 〈◊〉 witnesse with our Consciences of our loyalty and that wee have 〈◊〉 thoughts or intentiens to diminish his Maj●sties just power and greatnesse First We were bound to preserve and defend his Person when we first took this Covenant and at that time you know very well you stirred up the people to sight against his Army though his Person was the Leader thereof which presume● first that either you perswaded the people against the 〈◊〉 of your owne consciences or secondly that you conceived that though his Person should be smitten into the chambers of Death by those that did fight against his Army yet they did not break the Covenant If so then there is a case wherein the KINGS Person may be ●ut off without breach of Covenant Secondly The oligation is for the preservation of his Person AVTHORITY not for his Person simply but his Person and Authority If both come in competition then the greater is to be prefer'd before the lesser that is his Authoririty before his Person If his Authority that is that by which the execution of all just lawes of the Kingdome is legally performed enjoynes the cutting off of Murtherers and Traitors by death if his Person be found to be a Murtherer or Traitor then either his authority or person must dye If his Authority dies then no Murtherers and Traitors or any other Delinquents must die or suffer for what reason can be given th●t the greatest Traitor or Murtherer should be spared and not others The nearer relations are the greater is the sinne of the violation thereof the King is the Father the Husband of his Countrey if he shall murther his Children his Spouse he deserves a sorer death then common murtherers doe● Treason is the betraying of just trusts the greater the trust the greater the treason the worse the Traitor the Covenant then engageth to preserve his Authority rather then his Parson for though his Person may be engaged against his people yet his authority cannot withstand his people no Prince having authority to destroy kill and murther his people it is true he may have potentiam but not potestatem an opportunity but not an authority might but not right hereunto If his person riseth up against his authority and his authority against his person if one of these must perish the Solemne League and Covenant obligeth us to preserve his authority though with the destruction of his person Thirdly The Covenant binds us to preserve his person in the preservation and defence of the true Religion true Religion doth not command to punish the poore and spare the rich true Religion doth not say if the Subject doe kill and murther rob and steale he shall be so and so punished but if the King doth these things a thousand times over he must not be medled withall by any but God alone true Religion saith he that sheds mans blood by man shall his blood be shed the murtherer shall surely be put to death the revenger of blood shall stay the murtherer c. If then the King be a murtherer true Religion comman●● that he be put to death true Religion as to matter of right or wrong maketh no difference nor hath respect of persone it doth not justifie the wicked though hee be never so great and whereas you may urge that the meaning of those Scriptures have a speciall reference to the Authority by which the murtherer must be put to death by man shall his blood be shed that is by man invested with lawfull authority not by every man or any man and that Court by which the King was condemned and executed was no more a lawfull Authority then the doing thereof by a private person having not the least colour of the law of the La●d for it Saith that profound Lawyer Mr. Love only as solemn a piece of mockery as ever was acted upon the stage of this world and so thin that every eye may pierce it and the solemnity thereof excepted the same with John of Leyden Saith another grave and judicious Divine Mr. Jenkin His life being taken away unjustly and his blood drawn by unrighteousnesse Saith another meek Minister of the Gospel Mr. Cauton an imbr●ing of their hands with the blood of their Soveraign Saith another pathetick and compassionate messenger of Jesus Christ M. Case a staining our Land with innocent blood and notorious scand●lizing the Protestant Religion say many of the Subscri●●● but to answer First This serious and faithfull representation of the judgement of Ministers of the Gospel within the Province of London doe not so much as intimate that the life of a King is in any case to be taken away but rather that the Lords Anointed at no hand must be touched and the truth is it is to be feared that this Doctrine preached by men of this Tribe was one of the great causes both of the Kings wicked and tyranni●ll government and so by consequence of his death and destruction so that if