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A48860
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A further defence of the report Vindicating it from Mr. Alsops Cavils, and shewing the difference between Mr. W's and my self to be real, and the charge in my appeal to be true.
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Lobb, Stephen, d. 1699.
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Wing L2724; ESTC R218961
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be_v not_o the_o meritorious_a cause_n of_o christ_n suffering_n that_o no_o suffering_n be_v proper_o penal_a but_o what_o be_v inflice_v on_o the_o delinquent_n himself_o that_o when_o parent_n or_o prince_n sinâ—_n and_o their_o child_n or_o subject_n suffer_v their_o suffering_n be_v but_o improper_o or_o analogical_o penal_a and_o that_o therefore_o christ_n not_o be_v the_o actual_a transgressor_n can_v not_o be_v in_o a_o proper_a sense_n punish_v for_o our_o sin_n that_o proper_o speak_v he_o do_v not_o satisfy_v the_o violate_a law_n and_o agreeable_o add_v that_o the_o suffering_n be_v exact_v by_o god_n not_o as_o he_o be_v a_o rector_n as_o such_o but_o as_o a_o rector_n supra_fw-la leges_fw-la and_o as_o a_o offend_a lord_n and_o benefactor_n and_o that_o i_o may_v be_v the_o more_o clear_a in_o this_o attempt_n i_o will_v show_v how_o exact_a the_o agreement_n between_o mr._n b._n crellius_n episcopius_n curcellius_n and_o limborch_n be_v and_o how_o full_a a_o confutation_n the_o answer_n of_o grotius_n to_o socinus_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o worcester_n unto_o crellius_n and_o of_o the_o principal_a of_o jesus_n oxon_n unto_o the_o disciple_n of_o episcopius_n be_v of_o the_o principle_n which_o mr._n baxter_n have_v advance_v subsect_v i._o of_o the_o meritorious_a cause_n of_o christ_n suffering_n 1._o that_o mr._n baxter_n deny_v our_o sin_n to_o be_v the_o near_a impulsive_a and_o proper_a meritorious_a cause_n of_o christ_n suffering_n 1._o it_o be_v well_o know_v to_o the_o learned_a that_o if_o christ_n suffering_n be_v not_o ex_fw-la obligatione_fw-la legis_fw-la and_o by_o virtue_n of_o the_o sanction_n of_o the_o law_n sin_n can_v be_v the_o near_a impulsive_a or_o proper_a meritorious_a cause_n of_o they_o for_o as_o a_o universal_a and_o perfect_a obedience_n to_o the_o praeceptive_a part_n of_o the_o law_n as_o it_o respect_v the_o promissory_a part_n will_v according_a to_o the_o rule_n of_o distributive_a justice_n have_v be_v the_o meritorious_a cause_n of_o the_o promise_a reward_n in_o like_a manner_n sin_n the_o transgression_n of_o the_o precept_n as_o it_o respect_v the_o penal_a sanction_n be_v the_o meritorious_a cause_n of_o the_o threaten_a suffering_n if_o then_o i_o clear_v it_o that_o mr._n b._n be_v of_o opinion_n that_o christ_n suffering_n be_v not_o exit_fw-la obligatione_fw-la legis_fw-la it_o must_v be_v acknowledge_v that_o he_o deny_v our_o sin_n to_o be_v their_o meritorious_a cause_n which_o i_o hope_v to_o prove_v even_o to_o mr._n alsop_n conviction_n and_o moreover_o to_o evince_v it_o that_o he_o do_v express_o declare_v that_o our_o sin_n be_v not_o the_o meritorious_a cause_n of_o christ_n suffering_n for_o 2._o mr._n b._n in_o his_o six_o determination_n which_o be_v in_o the_o first_o chapter_n of_o the_o three_o part_n of_o his_o methodus_fw-la after_o he_o have_v set_v down_o his_o distinction_n between_o the_o law_n of_o innocent_a nature_n and_o the_o law_n peculiar_a to_o the_o mediator_n and_o consider_v the_o law_n in_o the_o first_o sense_n which_o he_o say_v oblige_v christ_n himself_o as_o man_n and_o all_o other_o even_o sinner_n he_o add_v another_o distinction_n between_o the_o obligation_n of_o this_o law_n as_o a_o remote_a and_o as_o a_o near_a cause_n and_o declare_v his_o judgement_n thus_o 1._o '_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n although_o it_o do_v oblige_v both_o christ_n and_o we_o unto_o obedience_n yet_o it_o do_v only_o oblige_v we_o not_o christ_n unto_o punishment_n the_o law_n oblige_v not_o a_o innocent_a person_n to_o punishment_n it_o condemn_v not_o the_o just._n 2._o '_o that_o the_o law_n of_o grace_n oblige_v christ_n neither_o to_o obedience_n nor_o to_o punishment_n 3._o '_o by_o the_o law_n peculiar_a to_o the_o mediator_n call_v the_o covenant_n between_o the_o father_n and_o the_o son_n christ_n be_v oblige_v to_o suffer_v punishment_n for_o sinner_n namely_o by_o his_o consent_n and_o proper_a sponsion_n and_o the_o father_n will_n and_o commandment_n from_o this_o law_n the_o near_a oblige_a cause_n of_o christ_n suffer_a punishment_n have_v its_o rise_n 4._o '_o by_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n oblige_v we_o sinner_n unto_o punishment_n christ_n be_v not_o direct_o oblige_v to_o punishment_n however_o it_o be_v the_o occasion_n of_o his_o punishment_n and_o the_o obligation_n we_o lie_v under_o be_v â—he_n remote_a cause_n of_o christ_n obligation_n for_o if_o the_o law_n have_v not_o condemn_v we_o christ_n have_v never_o undertake_v or_o suffer_v a_o vicarious_a punishment_n so_o 〈◊〉_d mr._n b._n 3._o from_o what_o mr._n b._n have_v so_o free_o declare_v it_o be_v â—ident_a he_o be_v of_o opinion_n that_o the_o obligation_n christ_n 〈◊〉_d under_o to_o suffer_v arise_v not_o from_o that_o law_n we_o violate_a but_o from_o the_o mediatorial_n convenant_n and_o â—at_a the_o obligation_n to_o punishment_n which_o be_v by_o â—â—rtue_n of_o the_o sanction_n of_o the_o law_n we_o violate_v â—nder_v which_o we_o all_o be_v by_o nature_n be_v but_o a_o â—ccasion_n or_o remote_a cause_n and_o therefore_o our_o sin_n â—e_v not_o the_o near_a impulsive_a and_o proper_a meritorious_a â—â—use_n of_o christ_n suffering_n which_o be_v conform_v to_o that_o he_o have_v in_o his_o other_o write_n not_o only_o in_o his_o posthumous_n discourse_n of_o universal_a redemption_n but_o in_o the_o preface_n to_o his_o confession_n of_o faith_n pag._n 4._o where_o he_o say_v that_o as_o christ_n can_v not_o take_v upon_o himself_o the_o same_o numerical_a gild_n which_o lie_v on_o we_o so_o neither_o can_v he_o take_v upon_o himself_o gild_n of_o the_o same_o sort_n as_o have_v not_o the_o same_o sort_n of_o foundation_n or_o efficient_a we_o arise_v from_o the_o merit_n of_o our_o sin_n and_o the_o commination_n of_o the_o law_n and_o his_o be_v rather_o occasion_v than_o merit_v by_o our_o sin_n and_o occasion_v by_o the_o law_n threaten_v of_o we_o both_o which_o be_v as_o we_o may_v call_v they_o but_o â—rocauses_n as_o to_o he_o etc._n etc._n and_o in_o his_o catho_n theol._n part_v ii_o pag._n 78._o christ_n suffer_v not_o by_o that_o obligation_n which_o bind_v we_o to_o suffer_v 4._o these_o passage_n i_o have_v mention_v do_v sufficient_o clear_v it_o that_o mr._n b._n own_v not_o that_o our_o sin_n be_v the_o near_a impulsive_a or_o meritorious_a cause_n of_o christ_n suffering_n the_o most_o he_o will_v yield_v be_v this_o viz._n that_o our_o sin_n be_v the_o occasion_n or_o remote_a impulsive_a cause_n or_o the_o pro-cause_n somewhat_o in_o the_o place_n of_o a_o meritorious_a cause_n which_o be_v no_o more_o than_o socinus_n crellius_n and_o their_o follower_n do_v grant_v as_o i_o will_v immediate_o show_v ii_o the_o socinian_o do_v grant_v that_o our_o sin_n be_v a_o remote_a impulsive_a cause_n or_o mere_a occasion_n of_o christ_n suffering_n 1._o that_o the_o socinian_o make_v so_o large_a a_o concession_n as_o this_o unto_o we_o be_v evident_a from_o most_o of_o their_o write_n crellius_n against_o grotius_n confess_v it_o fatemur_fw-la peccata_fw-la nostra_fw-la posito_fw-la dei_fw-la de_fw-la salute_v nobis_fw-la danda_fw-la decreto_fw-la eatenus_fw-la etiam_fw-la fuisse_fw-la impulsivam_fw-la mortis_fw-la christi_fw-la causam_fw-la etc._n etc._n ad_fw-la partic_a 2._o cap._n 1._o but_o 2._o there_o be_v so_o much_o to_o this_o purpose_n in_o the_o answer_n the_o learned_a bishop_n of_o worcester_n give_v to_o what_o crellius_n have_v on_o this_o point_n that_o i_o will_v say_v no_o more_o of_o 〈◊〉_d in_o this_o place_n but_o proceed_v to_o the_o proposal_n of_o â—hat_n the_o bishop_n offer_v unto_o your_o consideration_n iii_o what_o mr._n baxter_n and_o the_o socinian_o hold_v about_o our_o sin_n be_v only_o a_o remote_a impulsive_a cause_n or_o occasion_n of_o christ_n suffering_n oppose_v by_o the_o orthodox_n particular_o by_o the_o bishop_n of_o worcester_n 1._o the_o learned_a bishop_n give_v the_o sense_n of_o the_o socinian_o about_o the_o impulsive_a cause_n of_o christ_n suffering_n assure_v we_o '_o that_o though_o crellius_n attribute_n â—he_v suffering_n of_o christ_n mere_o to_o act_n of_o dominion_n without_o any_o respect_n to_o sin_n yet_o elsewhere_o he_o will_v allow_v a_o respect_n that_o be_v have_v to_o sin_n antecedent_o to_o the_o suffering_n of_o christ_n and_o that_o the_o sin_n of_o man_n be_v the_o impusive_a cause_n of_o they_o and_o although_o socinus_n in_o one_o place_n utter_o deny_v any_o lawful_a antecedent_n cause_n of_o the_o death_n of_o christ_n beside_o the_o willâ—f_n â—f_z god_n and_o christ_n yet_o crellius_n in_o his_o vindication_n â—ith_o by_o lawful_a cause_n he_o mean_v meritorious_a or_o â—â—ch_a upon_o supposition_n of_o which_o he_o ought_v to_o die_v for_o elsewhere_o he_o make_v christ_n to_o die_v for_o the_o cause_n or_o by_o the_o occasion_n of_o our_o sin_n which_o be_v the_o same_o that_o crellius_n mean_v by_o a_o impulsive_a or_o procatartick_a cause_n 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such_o be_v some_o of_o you_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d â—â—t_n be_v as_o may_v be_v see_v in_o pool_n talia_fw-la scelera_fw-la eratis_fw-la â—â—th_v wickedness_n be_v some_o of_o you_o and_o as_o caâ—arius_n ut_fw-la cum_fw-la sceleratum_fw-la dicimus_fw-la scelus_fw-la the_o like_a also_o in_o ephesian_n 5.8_o you_o be_v darkness_n that_o be_v as_o zanchy_a ut_fw-la scelus_fw-la pro_fw-la scelestissimo_fw-la and_o bishop_n reynolds_n observe_v on_o psalm_n 110._o the_o lord_n to_o signify_v that_o his_o people_n be_v most_o rebellious_a say_v that_o they_o be_v rebellion_n itself_o ezek._n 2.8_o and_o many_o other_o instance_n of_o this_o kind_n may_v be_v give_v which_o may_v move_v some_o of_o no_o jealous_a inclination_n to_o suspect_v that_o the_o objector_n have_v be_v more_o conversant_a with_o the_o poet_n than_o with_o the_o prophet_n and_o apostle_n 2._o well_o then_o by_o compare_v scripture_n with_o scripture_n the_o signification_n of_o the_o word_n sin_n be_v very_o obvious_a denote_v the_o greatness_n of_o wickedness_n we_o be_v sin_n we_o be_v sin_n in_o the_o abstract_n we_o be_v sinner_n in_o the_o high_a degree_n but_o 3._o do_v not_o this_o interpretation_n give_v advantage_n to_o the_o objector_n who_o say_v you_o shall_v see_v the_o mystery_n of_o his_o phraseology_n it_o be_v to_o mislead_v you_o into_o that_o abomination_n that_o christ_n be_v sinful_a that_o hâ—_n be_v a_o sinner_n for_o if_o christ_n be_v sin_n in_o the_o same_o acceptation_n that_o we_o be_v than_o he_o be_v sinful_a hâ—_n be_v a_o sinner_n and_o the_o great_a sinner_n that_o eveâ—_n be_v in_o the_o world_n to_o this_o i_o answer_v that_o whatever_o be_v here_o suggest_v my_o interpretation_n of_o the_o word_n sin_n give_v not_o the_o least_o advantage_n to_o thâ—_n objector_n for_o 1._o if_o the_o word_n sin_n have_v a_o sense_n in_o the_o superlaâ—tive_a degree_n in_o which_o it_o be_v true_a not_o only_o of_o we_o buâ—_n of_o christ_n without_o make_v christ_n inherent_o sinful_a or_o personal_o guilty_a all_o this_o noise_n be_v to_o no_o purpose_n 2._o that_o christ_n be_v sin_n in_o a_o acceptation_n thaâ—_n we_o be_v sin_n without_o be_v inherent_o sinsul_n iâ—_n evident_a as_o the_o word_n sin_n import_v gild_n i_o meaâ—_n legal_a gild_n and_o a_o proper_a punishment_n consequen_o thereupon_o sin_n in_o scripture_n oft_o import_v the_o samâ—_n with_o legal_a gild_n in_o the_o sense_n describe_v by_o the_o â—arned_a bishop_n of_o worcester_n and_o it_o also_o ofttimes_o signify_v punishment_n my_o sin_n and_o sometime_o my_o â—uilt_n at_o other_o time_n my_o punishment_n and_o when_o â—uilt_n and_o punishment_n be_v express_v by_o the_o word_n sin_n â—e_z be_v not_o only_o direct_v to_o our_o sin_n as_o the_o meritoâ—us_a cause_n but_o to_o the_o dreadful_a and_o dismal_a effect_n we_o be_v sin_n we_o be_v upon_o the_o account_n of_o our_o transgression_n exceed_v guilty_a and_o the_o punishment_n they_o â—serve_v be_v exceed_v great_a but_o 3._o if_o christ_n be_v not_o sin_n in_o some_o of_o the_o same_o acâ—ptations_n in_o which_o we_o be_v sin_n than_o the_o gild_n of_o â—â—r_a sin_n be_v never_o transfer_v upon_o christ_n nor_o the_o punishment_n thereof_o inflict_v on_o he_o which_o be_v a_o â—ry_a liberal_a give_v up_o the_o controversy_n to_o the_o sociâ—ans_n who_o deny_v christ_n to_o be_v make_v sin_n in_o any_o one_o â—ense_n in_o which_o we_o be_v sin_n and_o so_o will_v not_o own_o â—at_a our_o gild_n be_v lay_v upon_o he_o or_o a_o proper_a pungent_a inflict_v on_o he_o 4._o if_o christ_n be_v in_o no_o sense_n sin_n in_o which_o we_o â—e_v sin_n than_o our_o sin_n be_v never_o impute_v unto_o â—hrist_n nor_o do_v he_o in_o a_o proper_a sense_n bear_v our_o gild_n 〈◊〉_d punishment_n nor_o be_v he_o nor_o can_v he_o be_v a_o proper_a sacrifice_n for_o sin_n to_o say_v that_o christ_n be_v a_o sacrifice_n 〈◊〉_d sin_n in_o a_o proper_a sense_n and_o yet_o not_o sin_n in_o any_o one_o â—se_n in_o which_o we_o be_v sin_n be_v to_o say_v he_o have_v not_o the_o â—uilt_n nor_o the_o punishment_n of_o sin_n upon_o he_o and_o that_o â—e_n be_v not_o a_o proper_a sacrifice_n for_o sin_n for_o it_o be_v essenâ—al_a to_o a_o proper_a sacrifice_n for_o sin_n to_o have_v the_o gild_n use_v punishment_n of_o sin_n lay_v upon_o it_o upon_o this_o acount_n it_o be_v that_o among_o the_o hebrew_n the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v use_v for_o sin_n the_o gild_n the_o punishment_n and_o sacrifice_n and_o among_o the_o greek_n and_o latin_v the_o â—ne_a word_n signify_v a_o wicked_a man_n and_o a_o expiatory_a sacrifice_n thus_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v as_o dr._n owen_n against_o biddle_n cap._n 22._o observe_n homo_fw-la pia_fw-la cularis_fw-la pro_fw-la lustratione_fw-la &_o expiatione_fw-la patriae_fw-la devotus_fw-la whence_o the_o word_n be_v often_o use_v as_o scelus_fw-la in_o latin_a for_o a_o wicked_a man_n a_o man_n fit_a to_o be_v destroy_v and_o take_v away_o agreeable_o hereunto_o budaeus_fw-la render_v that_o place_n oâ—_n the_o apostle_n 1_o cor._n 4.13_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d nos_fw-la tanquam_fw-la piacula_fw-la we_o as_o as_o the_o accurse_a thing_n of_o the_o world_n and_o sacrifice_n for_o the_o people_n it_o be_v a_o may_v be_v see_v in_o pool_n in_o loc_n the_o custom_n of_o somâ—_n country_n in_o the_o day_n of_o their_o calamity_n to_o take_v thâ—_n vile_a among_o the_o people_n and_o sacrifice_v they_o whâ—_n by_o the_o athenian_n be_v call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d so_o common_a have_v it_o be_v for_o the_o sinner_n and_o the_o sacrifice_n to_o beaâ—_n the_o same_o name_n even_o among_o the_o heathen_a but_o iâ—_n the_o holy_a scripture_n nothing_o more_o evident_a because_o the_o sin_n for_o which_o the_o sacrifice_n be_v to_o be_v offer_v be_v lay_v upon_o it_o in_o the_o old_a testament_n whereby_o the_o lay_v of_o our_o sin_n on_o the_o lord_n jesus_n which_o waâ—_n a_o necessary_a antecedent_n to_o his_o death_n as_o he_o be_v a_o sacrifice_n be_v prefigure_v but_o 5._o mr._n a._n write_v as_o if_o he_o have_v either_o never_o know_v or_o have_v quite_o forget_v what_o be_v so_o very_o obvious_a to_o mosâ—_n divine_v and_o therefore_o what_o he_o say_v on_o this_o occasion_n be_v to_o be_v the_o less_o regard_v and_o to_o be_v consider_v as_o what_o can_v serve_v no_o other_o sort_n of_o people_n thaâ—_n the_o socinian_o and_o their_o ally_n though_o i_o still_o charitable_o hope_v that_o he_o abhor_v their_o tenant_n even_o when_o hiâ—_n write_n do_v in_o too_o many_o instance_n favour_n theiâ—_n cause_n the_o four_o objection_n that_o it_o be_v a_o mistake_n to_o conclude_v from_o christâ—_n be_v call_v surety_n that_o therefore_o he_o come_v undeâ—_n the_o sanction_n of_o the_o law_n of_o work_n and_o the_o rather_o because_o be_v style_v the_o surety_n of_o a_o better_a testament_n can_v respect_v only_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n reply_n 1._o i_o do_v not_o say_v that_o this_o be_v a_o objection_n of_o mr._n alsop_n frame_n nor_o will_v i_o answer_v it_o as_o such_o the_o episcopianism_n and_o socinianism_n that_o be_v in_o it_o be_v so_o clear_a â—n_n evidence_n of_o its_o be_v form_v by_o a_o wellwisher_n â—o_o the_o error_n of_o our_o adversary_n that_o i_o will_v not_o â—asten_v it_o on_o one_o in_o who_o write_n i_o have_v not_o meet_v â—ith_n it_o but_o that_o it_o be_v of_o the_o same_o nature_n with_o â—hat_n mr._n w._n have_v advance_v be_v to_o i_o most_o certain_a 2._o whatever_o this_o objector_n have_v with_o a_o boldness_n â—ommon_a among_o our_o adversary_n assert_v i_o must_v â—ave_n leave_v to_o suggest_v that_o by_o this_o way_n of_o argue_v use_v by_o these_o assertion_n he_o have_v leave_v out_o orthodox_n writer_n and_o be_v go_v over_o to_o the_o tent_n of_o limborch_n â—â—rcellaeus_fw-la schlictingtons_n and_o crellius_n 3._o that_o herein_o the_o objector_n have_v forsake_v the_o orâ—odox_n i_o will_v evince_v by_o set_v down_o the_o 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