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A86418 The Quakers looking-glass look'd upon; and turned toward himself; in a sober reply to an uncivll [sic] pamplet published by Luke Howard a Quaker, against a narrative formerly published, setting forth the folly and presumption of Charles Baily a Quaker, sometimes a prisoner in Dover ... Hobbs, Richard, 17th cent. 1673 (1673) Wing H2271; ESTC R178062 12,778 15

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THE QUAKERS Looking-Glass Look'd upon And turned towards Himself IN A SOBER REPLY TO AN Uncivll Pamplet Published by Luke Howard a Quaker Against A NARRATIVE formerly Published Setting forth the Folly and Presumption of Charles Baily a Quaker sometimes a Prisoner in Dover In which REPLY The Truth of the said Narrative is further Evidenced and Vindicated against the Cavilling Quakers There are many Devices in a Mans heart Nevertheless the Councel of the Lord shall stand Prov. 19.21 To the Law and to the Testimonies If they speak not according to this Word It is because there is no light in them Isa 8.20 ●ONDON Printed for Francis Smith at the Elephant and Castle near the Royal Exchange in Cornhil And also at the same Sign the first Shop without Temple-Barre 1673. To the Reader FRiendly Reader I do here Present thee with a small Tract Containing a Brief Reply to a Book put forth lately by Luke Howard a Quaker Entituled A Looking-Glass for the Baptists The Contents of which Book and the Intents of the Author is to obscure the Truth of the Narrative which is hereunto annexed which Narrative is a Relation of some Remarkable Passages Concerning one Charles Baily an Eminent Quaker and sometimes a Prisoner in Dover upon the Quaking account during which time of his said Imprisonment those Extravigancies were committed by him and also to reproach and defame the Publisher of the said Narrative But how little he hath accomplish'd his End in the first in opposing himself against so manifest a Truth and how much he hath discovered his folly and envy in the latter doth in some measure appear in this following Discourse I also hereby further certifie thee That the aforesaid Narrative was not Published to blemish the Persons of the Quakers nor yet from a spirit of Envie as the Quaker would insinuate but to shew what enormities the pretended light to which they make the Scriptures give way and bow leads them And that those that are in danger of being beguiled by heeding a Light within themselves above the light of the Holy Scriptures may not be deceived by them to follow the uncertain motions of their own Heads but may rather follow the Councel of the Apostle 2 Pet. 19.20 We have a more sure word of the Prophets saith he meaning the Scriptures to which ye do well that ye take heed mark as unto a light that shineth in a dark Place c. And finally he that knows the hearts knows that this is my end in Publishing both the Narrative and this and he will one day decide all Controversies depending between them and us and then shall every man receive according to his Works In the mean time read and consider what follow And so I leave thee to the Guidance and Blessing of the Lord And remain Thine in the Hope of Eternal Life by Jesus Christ Richard Hobbs THIS Quakers Looking-Glasse is false it presents two Faces one as if they did another as if they did 〈…〉 Charles Baily for an eminent Quaker And that this is so see what he saith page 10. viz. some new Converted Friends saith he did own Charles Baily but the Men Friends meaning himself and three or four more Prisoners in the Castle did not own him so much But this we did not acquaint the Baptists with saith he Hence note Luke Howard appears in his Looking-Glass with two Faces First one toward the Baptist as if he did own Charles Baily as an eminent Quaker but now as with another Face he pretends it was not so much as we did think And here his Glass is true if turned towards himself but false to the Baptists because we know not as himself confesseth but that he owned Baily as much as the rest did Secondly from hence we may also note by the way what little Cause the Man hath to make such an Out-cry against the Baptists as if they forged and published falshoods when we say no more then himself confesseth That to our knowledge they did own Baily a that time for an eminent Quaker The which I shall make further appear by these three following Particulars 1. That the said Baily did prophecie see false Visions and pretend to work Miracles as appears by the Narrative hereunto annexed 2. That he was then in fellowship with the Quakers and owned by them 3. That Baily was led by the Quakers spirit into these delusions 4. Examine the Quakers evasions by which he endeavors to shift off the Truth of our Narrative 5. Pluck up by the roots the Authors prodigious root of the Baptists in Kent and discover the Authors Apostacy from the Truth 6. By some sober reflexions upon his false accusations as they are scattered through his book First that the Quakers did own Baily for an eminent Quaker amongst them before and after his pretended Vision Prophecie and Miracles mentioned in the Narrative appears by their then affirming and justifying him to be led by the true Light as they did by their hearing him preach and devoutly joyning with him in Prayer But this is a poor Proof saith our Looking-Glass-Maker pag. 9. To which answer That if this be not a sufficient proof they owned him I know not what is or can be sufficient nor do I know any Rule the Quakers have by which I shall know when they own one another But to shift this off the Quaker says they were only new convinced friends that owned Baily Himself and three or four more then in prison with him did not own him so much Reply If by so much you mean ye did not joyn with him in his devotion I grant it for your restraint from him hindered you in that but at the same time ye justified him as highly as the rest in your Discourse concerning him and his actions and condemned the Baptists for opposing him in his foolish attempts though now ye would have the World believe ye did not own him so much as friends at liberty did As if all the Quakers in Dover and Folkstone and thereabouts that had fellowship with Baily and were daily privy to his words and actions were so Moon-blind that they could not see Baily was led by a false light so well as our Looking-Glass-Maker could through the stone-walls of Dover-Castle see how this man lifts up himself above his brethren But Luke to heal up this tells us That friends abroad were afraid to judge Baily but when they came to the Quakers in the Castle they would speak the thing as it was and that Baily erred But this we did not think fit to acquaint the Baptists with saith he Reply Behold here is the Quakers Method That although they know a thing to be true and justly charged upon them yet it is their prudence to deny or not acknowledge it That they may preserve the reputation of their erroneous light and those poor silly souls that are led aside thereby and contrary to their knowledge and conscience will justifie the evil