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A83365	The Parliaments vindication of Iohn Pym Esquire from His Majesties exception against him. Occasioned from his speech delivered at a conference with both Houses Jan. 25. 1641 concerning licenses granted by His Majesties immediate warrant, to many of the chiefe commanders now in the head of the rebells in Ireland, for their transporting thither, since the ports were stopt by both Houses of Parliament, against all Irish papists. In which vindication are, 1. Mr. Pym his speech. 2. His Majesties message concerning his speech. 3. The Commons answer to the message. 4. His Majesties reply to the Commons answer. 5. The Commons answer to the reply. 6. His Majesties second reply. Ordered by the Commons House of Parliament, that Mr. Pym his speech, His Majesties message concerning his speech, the commons answer to the message, His Majesties reply to the Commons answer, the Commons answer to that reply, and His Majesties second reply, be forthwith printed together and published. H. Elsynge Cler. Parl. D. Com.	England and Wales. Parliament.; Pym, John, 1584-1643.	1643 (1643)	Wing E2152; Thomason E55_2; ESTC R22746	13,388	18

sense of the House And touching that passage wherein it is affirmed that since the stop upon the Ports against all Irish Papists by both Houses many of the chiefe Commanders now in the head of the Rebels have been suffered to passe by your Majesties immediate Warrant They present your Maiesty with this their humble Answer That they have received divers advertisements concerning the severall persons Irish Papists and others which have obtained your Majesties immediate Warrants for their passing into Ireland since the Order of Restraint of both Houses some of which as they have been informed since their comming into Ireland have joyned with the Rebells and been Commanders amongst them some others have been staid and are yet in safe Custody particularly the Lord Delvin and foure other persons in his company whereof one is thought to be a Priest One Colonell Butler Brother to the Lord Minyart now in Rebellion and Sir George Hamilton all which are Papists And one other as is reported being Son of the Lord Mettersfield whose Father and Brother are both in Reb●llion The particular names of others wee have not yet received but doubt not but upon examination they may be discovered And your Majesties most faithfull Subjects are very sorry that the extreame caution which your Majestie hath used hath been so ill seconded with the dilligence and faithfulnesse of your Mininisters and that your Royall Authority should be so highly abused Although as it was expressed in that Speech by Master Pym we believe it was by the procurement of some evill Instruments too neer your Royall Person without your Majesties knowledge and intention And wee beseech your Majestie to take such course That not onely your Honour may be vindicated for the time passed but your Kingdome may be secured from the like mischiefe for the time to come His Majesties Reply to the House of Commons Answer Concerning Licences granted by the King to persons to goe into IRELAND AS His Majesty hath expressed a great desire to give His House of Commons all possible satisfaction to all their just Requests and a readinesse to rectifie or retract any thing done by Himselfe which might seem to trench upon their Priviledges by any mistake of His so he doubts not they will be ready upon all occasions to manifest an equall tendernes and regard of His Majesties Honour and Reputation with His good Subjects and therefore His Majestie expects they should review His Message of the seventh of this Moneth concerning a passage in Mastes Pyms Speech and their Answer sent to his Majestie by some of their Members on the tenth of the same with which His Maiestie can by no meanes rest satisfied His Maiesties Exception in that Message was That it was affirmed in that Speech That since the stop upon the Ports against all Irish Papists by both Houses many of the chiefe Commanders now in the head of the Rebells have been suffered to passe by His Maiesties immediate Warrant To this the Answer is THat the Speech mentioned in that Message to be delivered by master Pym was printed by their Order and that what was therein delivered was agreeable to the sense of the House that they have received divers Advertisements concerning severall persons Irish Papists and others who have obtained His Majesties immediate Warrant for their passing into Ireland since the Order of Restraint of both Houses some of which they have been informed since their comming into Ireland have joyned with the Rebels and been Commanders amongst them His Majesty is most assured no such person hath passed by His Warrant or Privity and then he desires His House of Commons to consider whether such a generall Information and Advertisement in which there is not so much as the name of any particular person mentioned be ground enough for such a direct and positive Affirmation as is made in that Speech which in respect of the place and Person and being now acknowledged to be agreeable to the sense of the House is of that authority that his Majesty may suffer in the affections of many of His good Subjects and fall under a possible construction considering many scandalous pamphlets to such a purpose of not being sensible enough of that Rebellion so horrid and odious to all Christians by which in this distraction such a danger might possibly ensue to His Majesties Person and Estate as he is well assured His House of Commons will use their utmost endeavours to prevent And therefore His Majesty thinks it very necessary and expects that they name those persons who by His Majesties Licence have passed into Ireland and are now there in the head of the Rebels Or that if upon their re-examination they doe not finde particular Evidence to prove that Assertion as His Majesty is confident they never can as this Affirmation which may reflect upon His Majesty is very publike so they will publish such a Declaration whereby that mistake may be discovered His Majesty being the more tender in that particular which hath reference to Ireland as being most assured that He hath been and is from His Soule resolved to discharge His Duty which God will require at His hands for the reliefe of His poore Protestant Subjects there and the utter rooting out that Rebellion So that Service hath not suffered any but necessary delayes by any act of His Majesties for the want of any thing proposed to His Majesty or within His Majesties power to doe For the persons named in the Answer His Majesty saith that Colonell Butler and the son of the Lord Nettersfield obtained His Warrants for their passage into Ireland at His Majesties being in Scotland which was long as His Majesty thinks before the Order of both Houses His Majesty knowing the former of them to be one who hath alwayes made Professions to His Service and to be Uncle to the Earle of Ormond of whose affection to the Protestant Religion and His Majesties Service His Majesty hath great cause to be assured And the latter being a person of whom at that time there was no suspicion to His Majesties knowledge For the other it may be they have obtained Warrants from his Majesty since the said Order but his Majesty assures the Parliament that he had no intimation of such an Order till after stay made of Sir George Hamilton who was the last that had any Licence from his Matie to passe for Ireland And His Majesty having since this Answer from the House of Commons used all possible means by the examining His own Memory and the Notes of His Secretaries to finde what Warrants have beene granted by Him and to what persons doth not finde That He hath granted any to any Irish but those who are named by the House of Commons and in December last to the Earle of Saint Albans and to two of his servants and to one Walter Terrel a poore man they being such as His Majesty is assured are not with the Rebels and much lesse chiefe Commanders

THE PARLIAMENTS VINDICATION OF IOHN PYM Esquire From his Majesties exception against Him Occasioned from his Speech delivered at a Conference with both Houses Jan. 25. 1641 concerning Licences granted by his Majesties immediate Warrant to many of the chiefe Commanders now in the head of the Rebells in Ireland for their transporting thither since the Ports were stopt by both Houses of Parliament against all IRISH Papists In which Vindication are 1. Mr. Pym his Speech 2. His Majesties Message concerning his Speech 3. The Commons Answer to the Message 4. His Majesties Reply to the Commons Answer 5. The Commons Answer to the Reply 6. His Majesties second Reply Ordered by the Commons House of Parliament that Mr. Pym his Speech His Majesties Message concerning his Speech The Commons answer to the Message His Majesties Reply to the Commons Answer The Commons answer to that Reply And His Majesties second Reply be forthwith Printed together and Published H. Elsynge Cler. Parl. D. Com. LONDON Printed for John Bull 1643. January 25. 1641. At a Conference betwixt both HOUSES concerning divers Petitions presented to the House of Commons Mr. PYM appointed to manage that Conference My Lords I Am commanded by the Knights Citizens and Burgesses assembled for the Commons in Parliament to present to your Lordships divers Petitions which they have received from severall parts concerning the state of the Kingdome whereunto they are chiefly moved by that constant affection which they have alwayes exprest of maintaining a firm union and good correspondence with your Lordships wherein they have ever found much advantage and contentment but never held it more important and necessary then at this time vvherein the wisdome and resolution of Parliament have as many great dangers and difficulties to passe through as ever heretofore We are united in the publique trust vvhich is derived from the Common-wealth in the common dutie and obligation vvhereby God doth bind us to the discharge of that trust and the Commons desire to impart to your Lordships vvhatsoever Information or Intelligence vvhatsoever Incouragement or Assistance they have received from those severall Countries vvhich they represent that so likewise vve may be united in the same intentions and endeavours of improving all to the service of his Majesty and the common good of the Kingdome The Petitions vvhich I am directed to communicate to your Lordships are foure from London Middlesex Essex and Hertfordshire We have received many more but it vvould take up too much time and be too great a trouble to peruse all and in these foure you may perceive the effect and sense of all First I am to desire your Lordships to heare them read and then I shall persue my Instructions in propounding some Observations out of them The Petitions being read by foure Members of the House Mr. Pym resumed his discourse My Lords IN these foure Petitions you may heare the voice or rather the cry of all England and you cannot wonder if the urgencie the extremitie of the condition wherin we are do produce some earnestnesse and vehemencie of expression more then ordinarie the agonie terror and perplexitie in which the Kingdome labours is universall all parts are aff●cted with it and therefore in these you may observe the groanes and miserable complaints of all Divers reasons may be given why those diseases which are Epidemicall are more dangerous then others 1. The Cause of such diseases is universall and supernall not from an evill constitution or evill diet or any other accident and such causes work with more vigour and efficacie then those which are particular and inferiour 2. In such diseases there is a communicative qualitie whereby the malignitie of them is multiplied and enforced 3. They have a converting transforming power that turns other diseases and evill affections of mens bodies into their owne nature The common and Epidemicall disease wherein this Common-wealth lies now gasping hath a superior and universall cause from the evill Counsells and designes of those who under his Majestie bear the greatest sway in Government 2. It hath a contagious and infectious qualitie whereby it is diffused and dispersed through all parts of the Kingdome 3. It is apt to take in the discontents evill affections and designes of particular persons to increase and fortifie it selfe I shall take occ●sion from severall branches of those Petitions which your Lordships have heard to observe 1. The varietie of Dangers to which this Kingdome is now subject 2. The manifold distempers which is the cause of those dangers 3 The Multiplicitie of those evill Influences which are the Causes of that distemper The first Danger is from enemies abroad this may seem a causelesse and impertinent observation at this time seeing we are in peace with all Nations about us But my Lords you may be pleased to consider that the safetie of the Kingdome ought not to depend upon the will and disposition of our Neighbours but upon our own strength and Provision Betwixt States there are often sudden changes from peace to warre according to occasion and advantage All the States of Christendome are now Armd and we have no reason to believe but that those of greatest power have an evill eye upon us in respect of our Religion and if their private Differences should be composed how dangerously how speedily might those great armies and other preparations now ready be applyed to some enterprise and attempt against us if there were no other cause this were sufficient to make us stand upon our Guard but there are divers more especiall symptomes of dangers of this kind We may perceive by severall Advertisements from abroad that they did foresee our Dangers many Moneths before they broke out they could foretell the Time and Manner of them which is a cleare evidence they held intelligence with those which were the contrivers and workers of the present troubles We may have dangerous Traitors and Fugitives now in other parts who can discover the weaknesse and distemper of the Kingdome who hold Intelligence with the ill affected party here and by all cunning and subtle practices endeavour to incite and provoke other Princes against us Some of the Ministers of our neighbour Princes may be justly suspected to have had a more immediate hand and operation in the Insurrection and Rebellion of Ireland many of the Commanders and most of the Souldiers levied for the service of Spain are now joyned with the Rebels there and those Irish Friars which were imployed by the Spanish Ambassadour for the making of those Levies are known to have been chief Incendiaries to this Rebellion and are still very active in the prosecution and incouragement of it The Rebels have a ready and speedy supply from some of our Neighbours Two Convoyes of Munition and Armes we are certainly informed of one from Dunkirke the other from Nantes in Britanie and certainly those that are so forward to enable others to hurt us will not forbeare to hurt us themselves assoon as they shall