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formality_n 155._o of_o a_o choice_n and_o as_o if_o our_o government_n be_v according_a to_o the_o concession_n of_o they_o who_o have_v late_o appear_v in_o the_o defence_n of_o it_o to_o take_v its_o fate_n upon_o this_o issue_n viz._n whether_o our_o present_a house_n of_o commons_o in_o the_o 154._o same_o form_n as_o it_o be_v now_o constitute_v be_v not_o in_o be_v ever_o after_o the_o conquest_n and_o as_o if_o we_o shall_v yield_v that_o otherwise_o it_o be_v no_o essential_a part_n of_o our_o government_n i_o must_v confess_v according_a to_o his_o insinuation_n that_o whoever_o put_v it_o upon_o this_o point_n betray_v the_o cause_n of_o the_o government_n 154._o but_o he_o will_v do_v well_o to_o name_v the_o man_n who_o have_v do_v this_o disservice_n this_o i_o must_v confess_v i_o have_v insist_v upon_o that_o proprietor_n of_o land_n as_o such_o without_o consideration_n of_o tenure_n or_o collate_v dignity_n have_v from_o the_o time_n of_o william_n the_o first_o downward_o to_o the_o 49th_o of_o h._n 3._o enjoy_v a_o right_n of_o come_v to_o the_o great_a council_n of_o the_o kingdom_n and_o can_v not_o be_v bind_v by_o any_o law_n to_o which_o they_o have_v not_o consent_v either_o in_o person_n or_o by_o representation_n yield_v to_o sometime_o before_o but_o not_o settle_v till_o the_o 49th_o of_o hen._n 3._o and_o mr._n petyt_n have_v satisfy_v mr._n hunt_v 179._o himself_o that_o the_o city_n and_o borough_n be_v represent_v in_o parliament_n from_o time_n beyond_o the_o account_n of_o record_n or_o history_n but_o this_o i_o desire_v may_v be_v consider_v that_o admit_v there_o be_v no_o representation_n of_o the_o freeholders_n of_o the_o county_n settle_v at_o any_o time_n within_o the_o reign_n of_o hen._n iii_n or_o in_o any_o other_o king_n reignnow_n appear_v and_o far_o that_o it_o can_v be_v show_v that_o such_o freeholders_n ever_n come_v to_o the_o general_a council_n of_o the_o kingdom_n in_o their_o own_o personal_a interest_n yet_o however_o if_o it_o appear_v that_o such_o as_o be_v now_o represent_v by_o the_o knight_n of_o the_o respective_a shire_n give_v their_o vote_n to_o parliamentary_a proceed_n by_o such_o as_o they_o particular_o appoint_v to_o that_o end_n before_o the_o 49th_o of_o hen._n 3._o the_o present_a constitution_n stand_v sufficient_o establish_v without_o the_o least_o imputation_n of_o novelty_n or_o usurpation_n and_o this_o be_v enough_o for_o my_o purpose_n 32._o but_o since_o many_o argument_n induce_v the_o belief_n that_o before_o the_o 49th_o of_o hen._n 3._o such_o ordinary_a freeholders_n often_o come_v to_o the_o general_a council_n of_o the_o kingdom_n without_o special_a election_n and_o representation_n i_o shall_v have_v give_v too_o great_a advantage_n to_o the_o underminer_n of_o common_a right_n if_o i_o shall_v have_v undertake_v to_o prove_v that_o the_o county_n from_o the_o time_n of_o the_o repute_a conquest_n downward_o always_o have_v their_o representative_n by_o the_o formality_n of_o a_o choice_n which_o mr._n hunt_v i_o thank_v he_o will_v put_v upon_o i_o to_o prove_v his_o second_o mistake_v as_o to_o the_o manner_n of_o summon_v the_o great_a council_n and_o the_o curia_n wherein_o he_o think_v that_o there_o lie_v a_o essential_a difference_n between_o the_o two_o court_n be_v near_o conjoin_v to_o the_o first_o and_o if_o it_o be_v no_o mistake_n will_v overthrow_v my_o notion_n for_o if_o as_o he_o hold_v only_a tenant_n in_o chief_a make_v the_o general_n council_n of_o the_o kingdom_n as_o well_o as_o the_o curia_n than_o my_o belief_n that_o other_o beside_o such_o tenant_n have_v right_a to_o come_v to_o the_o general_n council_n will_v be_v groundless_a and_o it_o may_v be_v probable_a that_o the_o different_a 149._o summons_n may_v distinguish_v the_o court_n but_o whereas_o he_o fancy_v it_o to_o have_v be_v a_o distinctive_a mark_n or_o certain_a diagnostic_n of_o a_o parliament_n where_o the_o summons_n be_v personal_a to_o the_o bishop_n earls_z and_o the_o great_a baron_n if_o he_o have_v be_v please_v to_o have_v take_v the_o pain_n to_o consult_v the_o record_n he_o will_v have_v find_v the_o summons_n to_o have_v be_v as_o personal_a to_o the_o war_n and_o consequent_o to_o the_o curia_n which_o beside_o other_o occasion_n for_o its_o sit_v be_v hold_v at_o the_o place_n of_o rendezvous_n to_o charge_v escuage_z upon_o the_o 240._o defaulter_n as_o it_o be_v to_o the_o general_n council_n which_o if_o i_o prove_v i_o hope_v it_o will_v be_v yield_v that_o the_o essential_a difference_n of_o those_o two_o court_n can_v not_o arise_v from_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o summons_n to_o the_o king_n tenant_n whether_o all_o be_v call_v in_o general_a or_o some_o among_o the_o rest_n in_o particular_a but_o from_o the_o person_n summon_v whether_o only_a tenant_n in_o chief_a or_o other_o