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A20733 A defence of the sermon preached at the consecration of the L. Bishop of Bath and VVelles against a confutation thereof by a namelesse author. Diuided into 4. bookes: the first, prouing chiefly that the lay or onely-gouerning elders haue no warrant either in the Scriptures or other monuments of antiquity. The second, shewing that the primitiue churches indued with power of ecclesiasticall gouernment, were not parishes properly but dioceses, and consequently that the angels of the churches or ancient bishops were not parishionall but diocesan bishops. The third, defending the superioritie of bishops aboue other ministers, and prouing that bishops alwayes had a prioritie not onely in order, but also in degree, and a maioritie of power both for ordination and iurisdiction. The fourth, maintayning that the episcopall function is of apostolicall and diuine institution. Downame, George, d. 1634. 1611 (1611) STC 7115; ESTC S110129 556,406 714

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thereof_o 98._o etc._n etc._n not_o need_n say_v the_o refuter_fw-la ye●_n you_o must_v prove_v the_o power_n of_o censure_v the_o people_n to_o be_v their_o only_a right_n unless_o you_o yield_v that_o preeminence_n to_o be_v give_v they_o jure_fw-la humano_fw-la as_o indeed_o it_o must_v be_v see_v they_o have_v it_o not_o potestate_fw-la ordinis_fw-la by_o the_o power_n of_o their_o order_n the_o refuter_fw-la be_v to_o be_v bear_v with_o if_o he_o talk_v at_o random_n see_v he_o be_v as_o it_o seem_v out_o of_o his_o element_n the_o thing_n which_o i_o be_v to_o prove_v if_o it_o have_v be_v needful_a be_v that_o whereas_o presbyter_n do_v govern_v each_o one_o the_o people_n of_o a_o parish_n and_o that_o private_o the_o bishop_n govern_v the_o people_n of_o the_o whole_a diocese_n and_o that_o public_o the_o which_o i_o hold_v needless_a to_o prove_v because_o before_o it_o be_v prove_v that_o they_o have_v the_o charge_n of_o the_o whole_a diocese_n
which_o themselves_o do_v bring_v to_o prove_v they_o and_o also_o that_o by_o such_o a_o answer_n the_o superiority_n of_o bishop_n be_v sufficient_o avoid_v but_o to_o conclude_v this_o point_n while_o the_o refuter_fw-la go_v about_o to_o prove_v that_o antioch_n which_o be_v the_o metropolis_n of_o syria_n and_o the_o chief_a city_n of_o all_o the_o east_n be_v but_o a_o parish_n church_n and_o the_o bishop_n of_o antioch_n who_o be_v also_o as_o ignatius_n testify_v of_o himself_o the_o bishop_n of_o syria_n 23._o and_o as_o theodoret_n say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o chief_a or_o pr●●ate_n of_o all_o the_o bishop_n in_o in_o the_o east_n to_o have_v be_v but_o a_o parson_n of_o a_o parish_n church_n the_o reader_n will_v hereby_o learn_v what_o conceit_n to_o have_v of_o his_o learning_n and_o judgement_n and_o what_o credit_n to_o give_v to_o his_o new-fangled_n opinion_n serm._n sect_n 11._o pag._n 47._o now_o the_o presbyter_n be_v subject_a to_o their_o b._n both_o as_o their_o ruler_n to_o be_v guide_v presbyter_n etc._n etc._n to_o page_n 50._o med_a have_v in_o general_n show_v the_o bishop_n superiority_n in_o jurisdiction_n over_o the_o presbyter_n even_o those_o of_o the_o city_n in_o this_o section_n i_o prove_v it_o more_o particular_o by_o the_o part_n of_o government_n which_o be_v both_o to_o rule_v and_o direct_v as_o also_o to_o censure_v and_o correct_v i_o show_v therefore_o that_o the_o presbyter_n of_o the_o city_n be_v subject_a to_o the_o bishop_n both_o as_o their_o ruler_n to_o be_v guide_v and_o direct_v by_o he_o and_o also_o as_o their_o judge_n to_o be_v censure_v and_o correct_v of_o he_o where_o the_o refuter_fw-la if_o he_o will_v needs_o be_v analyse_a and_o syllogise_v shall_v have_v frame_v this_o argument_n to_o who_o the_o presbyter_n be_v subject_a both_o as_o to_o their_o ruler_n to_o be_v guide_v and_o direct_v by_o he_o and_o as_o to_o their_o judge_n to_o be_v censure_v and_o correct_v of_o he_o he_o be_v superior_a to_o they_o in_o the_o power_n of_o jurisdiction_n and_o maiority_n of_o rule_n to_o the_o b._n the_o presbyter_n be_v subject_a both_o as_o to_o their_o ruler_n to_o be_v guide_v and_o direct_v by_o he_o and_o as_o to_o their_o judge_n to_o be_v censure_v and_o correct_v of_o he_o therefore_o the_o b._n be_v superior_a to_o the_o presbyter_n in_o power_n of_o jurisdiction_n and_o maiority_n of_o rule_n the_o proposition_n of_o this_o syllogism_n be_v of_o evident_a &_o undeniable_a truth_n the_o assumption_n consist_v of_o two_o part_n the_o former_a concern_v the_o rule_n of_o direction_n the_o latter_a concern_v the_o power_n of_o correction_n which_o i_o do_v in_o order_n prove_v by_o evident_a testimony_n whereunto_o he_o oppose_v nothing_o but_o cavil_v shift_n and_o evasion_n by_o way_n of_o analysis_n he_o say_v thus_o the_o former_a proof_n of_o the_o assumption_n touch_v the_o bishop_n maiority_n of_o rule_n be_v general_a concern_v diocesan_n and_o parishional_a presbyter_n now_o follow_v the_o reason_n for_o each_o of_o they_o in_o particular_a and_o first_o for_o the_o bishop_n jurisdiction_n over_o the_o diocesan_n in_o regard_n of_o direction_n where_o i_o desire_v he_o to_o tell_v we_o what_o he_o mean_v by_o diocesan_n presbyter_n whether_o such_o as_o assist_v the_o bishop_n in_o the_o diocesan_n government_n if_o yea_o he_o dream_v of_o that_o he_o can_v prove_v to_o omit_v the_o commendation_n of_o his_o skill_n in_o analyse_a which_o be_v not_o great_a his_o resutation_n here_o be_v as_o you_o plain_o see_v not_o only_o a_o dream_n but_o the_o dream_n of_o a_o dream_n he_o say_v i_o dream_v of_o diocesan_n presbyter_n when_o himself_o belike_o do_v dream_v so_o where_o speak_v i_o one_o word_n of_o diocesan_n presbyter_n where_o do_v i_o once_o name_v they_o be_v the_o refuter_n conscience_n no_o better_o than_o still_o to_o father_n upon_o i_o untruth_n for_o his_o own_o advantage_n do_v he_o not_o thereby_o bewray_v what_o a_o cause_n he_o maintain_v which_o can_v be_v uphold_v but_o by_o forgery_n neither_o if_o i_o have_v speak_v of_o diocesan_n presbyter_n will_v i_o have_v use_v the_o word_n in_o that_o sense_n for_o as_o part_n of_o the_o diocese_n in_o the_o country_n be_v sometime_o in_o the_o counsel_n call_v diocese_n so_o be_v country_n minister_n call_v 20._o dioecesani_fw-la qui_fw-la 36._o per_fw-la dioeceses_fw-la ecclesias_fw-la regunt_fw-la which_o in_o the_o council_n of_o neocaesaria_n be_v 13._o call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v country_n minister_n and_o be_v oppose_v to_o the_o presbyter_n of_o the_o city_n who_o be_v there_o call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o else_o where_o 100_o civitatense_n presbyteri_fw-la of_o who_o it_o may_v be_v true_o say_v that_o the_o college_n or_o company_n of_o they_o be_v the_o presbytery_n which_o be_v not_o assign_v to_o any_o one_o parish_n be_v provide_v to_o assist_v the_o bishop_n in_o the_o feed_n and_o government_n of_o the_o diocese_n as_o i_o have_v prove_v before_o and_o in_o that_o sense_n may_v be_v call_v dioecesani_fw-la 11._o but_o let_v we_o see_v his_o reason_n say_v the_o refuter_fw-la if_o the_o 40._o canon_n of_o the_o apostle_n say_v he_o i_o say_v the_o ancient_a canon_n if_o the_o counsel_n of_o arles_n and_o ancyra_n tertullian_n cyprian_n and_o ignatius_n affirm_v that_o bb._n have_v maiority_n of_o rule_n for_o direction_n over_o diocesan_n presbyter_n than_o they_o have_v such_o maiority_n but_o all_o these_o affirm_v so_o therefore_o they_o have_v so_o the_o former_a part_n of_o my_o 10._o aforesaid_a assumption_n that_o the_o presbyter_n of_o the_o city_n be_v subject_a to_o the_o b._n as_o their_o ruler_n to_o be_v direct_v by_o he_o i_o prove_v first_o in_o general_n because_o they_o may_v do_v nothing_o of_o importance_n without_o his_o direction_n or_o consent_n then_o particular_o in_o respect_n of_o those_o thing_n which_o do_v belong_v to_o the_o power_n of_o their_o order_n for_o as_o touch_v the_o former_a if_o the_o presbyter_n may_v do_v nothing_o without_o the_o b._n nothing_o without_o his_o appointment_n or_o consent_n then_o be_v they_o subject_a to_o he_o as_o their_o ruler_n to_o be_v guide_v and_o direct_v by_o he_o but_o the_o former_a i_o prove_v by_o these_o testimony_n whereto_o more_o may_v be_v add_v therefore_o the_o latter_a can_v be_v deny_v of_o the_o syllogism_n which_o he_o frame_v he_o deny_v first_o the_o consequence_n of_o the_o proposition_n not_o shame_v to_o affirm_v that_o although_o the_o ancient_a canon_n call_v the_o apostle_n though_o the_o ancient_a counsel_n of_o ancyra_n and_o arles_n though_o tertullian_n cyprian_n and_o ignatius_n do_v all_o testify_v the_o maiority_n of_o rule_n in_o bb_n yet_o it_o will_v not_o follow_v that_o they_o have_v it_o it_o will_v follow_v then_o that_o the_o ancient_a counsel_n and_o father_n deserve_v no_o credit_n which_o whosoever_o shall_v affirm_v do_v much_o more_o without_o comparison_n deserve_v not_o only_o no_o credit_n but_o no_o audience_n nay_o no_o sufferance_n he_o be_v not_o to_o be_v endure_v but_o what_o pretence_n have_v he_o to_o discredit_v their_o authority_n forsooth_o none_o of_o they_o except_v tertullian_n and_o ignatius_n live_v in_o the_o first_o 200._o year_n as_o if_o all_o truth_n be_v confine_v within_o that_o period_n or_o as_o if_o some_o of_o the_o father_n which_o succeed_v as_o cyprian_a by_o name_n deserve_v not_o as_o much_o credit_n as_o they_o as_o for_o cyprian_a he_o come_v 40._o or_o 50._o year_n after_o and_o the_o council_n of_o ancyry_a some_o 50._o or_o 60._o year_n after_o he_o no_o doubt_n but_o great_a alteration_n in_o discipline_n and_o church-governement_n be_v or_o can_v be_v pretend_v to_o have_v be_v in_o the_o church_n before_o constatines_n time_n while_o it_o be_v under_o the_o crosse._n but_o let_v the_o refuter_fw-la esteem_n of_o these_o authority_n as_o he_o please_v there_o be_v no_o modest_a or_o moderate_a christian_a but_o will_v prefer_v the_o affirmation_n of_o any_o of_o these_o especial_o in_o a_o matter_n of_o fact_n before_o the_o negation_n of_o a_o thousand_o such_o as_o the_o libel_v refuter_fw-la after_o he_o have_v thus_o elevate_v their_o authority_n 12._o he_o cavil_v with_o their_o testimony_n deny_v also_o the_o assumption_n and_o first_o to_o the_o ancient_a canon_n bishop_n forbid_v presbyter_n &_o deacon_n to_o do_v anything_o 40._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d without_o the_o appointment_n and_o consent_n of_o the_o bishop_n he_o frame_v such_o a_o answer_n as_o every_o word_n whereof_o almost_o do_v argue_v extreme_a either_o unconscionablenesse_n or_o ignorance_n he_o say_v it_o do_v not_o prove_v they_o have_v maiority_n of_o rule_n or_o sole_a sovereignty_n over_o they_o sole_a sovereignty_n o_o defile_a conscience_n which_o cease_v not_o to_o ascribe_v such_o
much_o as_o may_v be_v we_o may_v bring_v in_o the_o ancient_a discipline_n where_o indeed_o we_o see_v mention_n of_o senior_n and_o of_o ancient_a discipline_n but_o that_o they_o mean_v nothing_o less_o than_o to_o bring_v in_o lay-elder_n or_o to_o establish_v the_o pretend_a parish-discipline_n or_o to_o acknowledge_v that_o it_o be_v the_o ancient_a discipline_n of_o the_o church_n i_o will_v out_o of_o the_o book_n itself_o make_v manifest_a wherein_o the_o whole_a government_n and_o discipline_n of_o our_o church_n by_o archbishop_n bishop_n archdeacon_n rural_a dean_n 12._o etc._n etc._n be_v establish_v and_o concern_v bb._n this_o be_v there_o decree_v that_o the_o b._n be_v at_o fit_a season_n to_o give_v holy_a order_n to_o institute_v fit_a minister_n to_o ecclesiastical_a benefice_n to_o remove_v unfit_a to_o hear_v the_o testimony_n of_o the_o church_n and_o complaint_n of_o their_o pastor_n to_o compound_v controversy_n arise_v betwixt_o the_o minister_n and_o the_o church_n to_o correct_v by_o ecclesiastical_a censure_n vice_n and_o corrupt_a manner_n to_o prescribe_v order_n for_o amendment_n of_o life_n to_o excommunicate_v those_o which_o wilful_o and_o obstinate_o resist_v to_o receive_v into_o grace_n those_o which_o be_v penitent_a to_o visit_v the_o whole_a diocese_n as_o well_o in_o place_n exempt_v as_o not_o every_o three_o year_n and_o final_o let_v bb._n take_v care_n of_o all_o thing_n which_o ex_fw-la dei_fw-la prescrpto_fw-la by_o the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n belong_v to_o they_o and_o which_o our_o ecclesiastical_a law_n have_v commit_v to_o their_o knowledge_n and_o judgement_n 1.2.3.4.5.6.7.8.9.10.11_o and_o that_o by_o senior_n they_o do_v not_o mean_v any_o ecclesiastical_a officer_n it_o be_v apparent_a for_o where_o they_o reckon_v up_o all_o ecclesiastical_a officer_n prescribe_v their_o duty_n begin_v at_o clerk_n or_o sexton_n &_o so_o proceed_v to_o churchwarden_n to_o deacon_n to_o presbyter_n or_o minister_n to_o archpresbyter_n or_o rural_a dean_n to_o archdeacon_n &_o so_o to_o cathedral_n church_n to_o dean_n to_o prebendary_n to_o bb._n prescribe_v the_o obedience_n which_o must_v be_v yield_v to_o they_o they_o do_v not_o once_o mention_v senior_n or_o their_o office_n if_o therefore_o it_o be_v ask_v who_o they_o understand_v by_o senior_n in_o the_o place_n allege_v i_o answer_v that_o they_o understand_v some_o of_o the_o principal_a householder_n in_o every_o parish_n who_o in_o some_o place_n they_o call_v vestry-man_n in_o some_o master_n of_o the_o parish_n in_o some_o ancient_n of_o the_o parish_n with_o what_o conscience_n therefore_o that_o book_n be_v allege_v as_o approve_v lay-elder_n or_o acknowledge_v the_o new-found_a parish-discipline_n for_o the_o ancient_a discipline_n let_v the_o reader_n judge_v the_o second_o he_o set_v down_o in_o these_o word_n a_o doctrine_n i_o say_v clean_a contrary_n to_o the_o profess_a judgement_n of_o all_o our_o worthy_a writer_n who_o in_o their_o answer_n to_o the_o papist_n that_o plead_v for_o their_o hierarchy_n with_o the_o same_o reason_n that_o m._n d._n do_v for_o his_o do_v determine_v that_o the_o government_n our_o bb._n exercise_n over_o other_o minister_n be_v jure_fw-la humano_fw-la by_o the_o positive_a law_n of_o man_n only_o the_o which_o if_o m._n d._n say_v true_a be_v false_a &_o so_o the_o papist_n be_v leave_v unanswered_a whereunto_o i_o answer_v first_o that_o the_o popish_a opinion_n be_v far_o different_a from_o that_o which_o i_o hold_v for_o they_o hold_v the_o order_n and_o superiority_n of_o bb._n to_o be_v jure_fw-la divino_fw-la imply_v thereby_o a_o perpetual_a necessity_n thereof_o insomuch_o that_o where_o bb_n be_v not_o to_o ordain_v they_o think_v there_o can_v be_v no_o minister_n or_o priest_n fine_a &_o consequent_o no_o church_n i_o hold_v otherewise_o as_o the_o refuter_fw-la himself_o elsewhere_o acknowledge_v in_o who_o word_n i_o will_v relate_v my_o opinion_n as_o he_o 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minister_n shall_v be_v judge_v in_o cause_n ecclesiastical_a by_o the_o consistory_n of_o the_o emperor_n because_o it_o consist_v of_o layman_n and_o will_v he_o allow_v a_o b._n or_o minister_n shall_v be_v judge_v yea_o depose_a and_o deprive_v by_o a_o parishional_a consistory_n or_o whole_a parish_n consist_v of_o layman_n do_v he_o commend_v the_o good_a emperor_n that_o say_v he_o be_v unable_a to_o judge_v among_o bishop_n and_o will_v he_o allow_v of_o private_a man_n unlearned_a and_o unacquainted_a with_o government_n as_o competent_a judge_n in_o cause_n ecclesiastical_a and_o thus_o much_o of_o my_o denial_n of_o their_o exposition_n of_o ambrose_n make_v good_a by_o sufficient_a proof_n chap._n viii_o the_o proof_n of_o their_o exposition_n of_o ambrose_n disprove_v and_o the_o reas●os_n which_o i_o allege_v why_o the_o counsel_n of_o the_o senior_n be_v neglect_v defend_v serm._n sect._n 7._o pag._n 14._o but_o let_v we_o examine_v the_o force_n of_o their_o argument_n 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22._o eusebius_n three_o that_o by_o the_o appointment_n of_o peter_n mark_n be_v the_o first_o b._n of_o alexandria_n who_o anianus_n succeed_v in_o that_o bishopric_n after_o he_o abilius_n and_o then_o cerdo_v all_o in_o the_o apostle_n time_n testify_v by_o 99_o nicephorus_n gregory_n eusebius_n jerome_n and_o dorotheus_n four_o that_o after_o the_o death_n of_o james_n the_o just_a simon_n the_o son_n of_o cleophas_n be_v by_o the_o apostle_n which_o then_o be_v remain_v make_v bishop_n of_o jerusalem_n testify_v by_o 63._o hegesippus_n and_o eusebius_n five_o that_o john_n the_o apostle_n ordain_v polycarpe_n bishop_n of_o smyrna_n testify_v by_o catal._n irenaeus_n eusebius_n tertullian_n and_o jerome_n six_o that_o john_n after_o his_o return_n from_o exile_n ordain_v bb._n in_o diverse_a place_n testify_v by_o 23._o clemens_n
alexandrinus_n and_o eusebius_n final_o that_o the_o apostle_n commit_v the_o church_n which_o be_v in_o every_o place_n to_o bishop_n who_o they_o ordain_v leave_v they_o their_o successor_n testify_v by_o prescript_n irenaeus_n and_o tertullian_n who_o say_v that_o as_o smyrna_n have_v polycarpe_n from_o s._n john_n and_o rome_n clement_n by_o the_o appointment_n of_o peter_n so_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o church_n can_v show_v quos_fw-la ab_fw-la apostolis_n in_fw-la episcopatum_fw-la constitutos_fw-la apostoli●i_fw-la seminis_fw-la traduce_v habent_fw-la what_o bishop_n they_o have_v ordain_v by_o the_o apostle_n the_o deriver_n of_o the_o apostolical_a seed_n to_o all_o this_o he_o have_v nothing_o to_o answer_v but_o that_o which_o heretofore_o have_v be_v full_o refute_v that_o these_o bishop_n be_v but_o ordinary_a pastor_n of_o particular_a congregation_n etc._n etc._n sa●ing_v that_o he_o take_v also_o exception_n against_o their_o assertion_n who_o say_v that_o bishop_n be_v the_o successor_n of_o the_o apostle_n but_o not_o only_a irenaeus_n and_o tertullian_n have_v avouch_v so_o much_o but_o diverse_a other_o of_o the_o father_n as_o cyprian_n jerome_n and_o augustine_n cyprian_n 9_o say_v praepositi_fw-la that_o be_v bishop_n apostolis_n vicaria_fw-la ordinatione_fw-la succedunt_fw-la succeed_v the_o apostle_n as_o be_v ordain_v in_o their_o steed_n and_o jerome_n euagr._fw-la say_v omnes_fw-la episcopi_fw-la apostolorum_fw-la successores_fw-la sunt_fw-la all_o bishop_n be_v the_o successor_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o again_o he_o say_v monta._n episcop●s_v apostolis_n succedere_fw-la and_o theodoret_n 18._o call_v the_o government_n of_o bishop_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o likewise_o basill_n ambros._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o presidency_n of_o apostle_n who_o have_v deliver_v to_o bishop_n as_o irenaeus_n 3._o say_v their_o own_o place_n of_o government_n in_o the_o several_a church_n and_o this_o be_v that_o which_o both_o 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of_o any_o presbyter_n
may_v further_o appear_v by_o these_o reason_n for_o where_o paul_n write_v to_o the_o bishop_n and_o deacon_n at_o philippi_n here_o say_v jerome_n 1._o by_o bishop_n we_o understand_v presbyter_n for_o in_o one_o city_n there_o can_v not_o be_v more_o bishop_n than_o one_o which_o plain_o show_v he_o think_v that_o although_o presbyter_n have_v the_o name_n yet_o they_o have_v not_o the_o office_n of_o bishop_n and_o that_o although_o there_o may_v be_v many_o in_o one_o city_n which_o have_v the_o name_n yet_o there_o can_v be_v but_o one_o that_o have_v the_o office_n of_o a_o bishop_n again_o on_o 1_o tim._n 3._o he_o 3_o say_v it_o be_v demand_v why_o the_o apostle_n make_v no_o mention_n there_o of_o presbyter_n but_o comprehend_v they_o in_o the_o name_n of_o bishop_n because_o say_v he_o the_o degree_n of_o presbyter_n be_v the_o second_o and_o almost_o the_o same_o with_o that_o of_o bishop_n answer_n my_o second_o answer_n be_v if_o jerome_n must_v be_v understand_v as_o 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and_o historical_o for_o the_o superiority_n of_o bishop_n himself_o be_v a_o presbyter_n be_v not_o to_o overweigh_v those_o few_o which_o he_o utter_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o heat_n of_o disputation_n as_o a_o party_n in_o the_o cause_n maintain_v the_o dignity_n of_o presbyter_n himself_o be_v a_o presbyter_n against_o either_o the_o indignity_n offer_v they_o by_o the_o bishop_n or_o the_o insolency_n of_o 101._o deacon_n who_o seek_v to_o overpeere_v they_o thus_o have_v i_o prove_v that_o the_o episcopal_a function_n be_v of_o apostolical_a and_o consequent_o of_o divine_a institution_n the_o vi_o chapter_n prove_v direct_o that_o the_o episcopal_a function_n be_v of_o divine_a institution_n institution_n serm._n sect._n 13._o pag._n 92._o i_o will_v in_o the_o last_o place_n direct_o yet_o brief_o prove_v that_o the_o episcopal_a function_n be_v of_o divine_a institution_n etc._n etc._n to_o protection_n of_o their_o person_n pag._n 94._o the_o refuter_fw-la 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