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the_o same_o pope_n have_v hear_v the_o complaint_n of_o certain_a priest_n in_o africa_n against_o paulinus_n their_o bishop_n commit_v the_o hear_n and_o decision_n of_o the_o cause_n to_o victor_n the_o primate_n of_o numidia_n and_o columbus_n with_o other_o bishop_n give_v they_o commission_n to_o hear_v and_o determine_v it_o among_o themselves_o 8._o except_o they_o shall_v think_v the_o assistance_n of_o his_o officer_n hilarius_n needful_a for_o the_o better_a determination_n of_o the_o cause_n 35._o in_o like_a manner_n a_o complaint_n be_v exhibit_v to_o the_o say_a pope_n by_o donadeus_fw-la a_o deacon_n against_o victor_n his_o bishop_n he_o depute_v the_o foresay_a columbus_n and_o other_o bishop_n to_o examine_v the_o cause_n and_o to_o punish_v the_o bishop_n if_o he_o be_v find_v in_o fault_n and_o the_o like_a commission_n he_o give_v also_o to_o a_o synod_n of_o bishop_n hold_v at_o bizacium_n in_o africa_n for_o the_o trial_n of_o the_o cause_n of_o clementius_fw-la 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shall_v we_o think_v of_o heavenly_a thing_n or_o of_o matter_n belong_v to_o religion_n and_o faith_n which_o do_v far_o more_o exceed_v man_n weak_a capacity_n must_v we_o either_o know_v how_o they_o be_v wrought_v or_o else_o deny_v the_o effect_n let_v m._n andrews_n tell_v i_o how_o angel_n and_o saint_n in_o heaven_n do_v pray_v to_o god_n for_o we_o which_o he_o grant_v they_o do_v or_o how_o they_o understand_v one_o another_o or_o yet_o how_o the_o humanity_n of_o christ_n hear_v our_o prayer_n and_o know_v our_o action_n i_o mean_v whether_o he_o see_v they_o in_o his_o divinity_n or_o know_v they_o by_o revelation_n and_o if_o he_o dare_v not_o determine_v the_o matter_n let_v he_o according_a to_o his_o own_o inference_n doubt_n whether_o christ_n hear_v our_o prayer_n or_o not_o yea_o let_v he_o not_o willing_o pray_v unto_o he_o see_v he_o hoc_fw-la say_v that_o no_o man_n do_v willing_o call_v upon_o those_o of_o who_o he_o be_v uncertain_a by_o what_o mean_v they_o hear_v he_o and_o if_o he_o will_v take_v upon_o he_o to_o determine_v it_o let_v he_o tell_v i_o why_o the_o glorify_a soul_n of_o saint_n which_o see_v god_n may_v not_o hear_v our_o prayer_n and_o know_v our_o action_n in_o the_o same_o manner_n 15._o but_o to_o omit_v infinite_a other_o instance_n which_o may_v be_v give_v let_v we_o hear_v what_o s._n augustine_n say_v even_o in_o a_o matter_n pertain_v to_o this_o question_n whereof_o we_o now_o treat_v for_o albeit_o he_o make_v great_a doubt_n how_o almighty_a god_n do_v work_v those_o stupendous_a miracle_n which_o as_o he_o testify_v upon_o his_o own_o knowledge_n be_v do_v at_o the_o memory_n 8._o and_o relyque_n of_o s._n steven_n and_o other_o martyr_n yet_o he_o make_v so_o little_a doubt_n of_o the_o effect_n that_o he_o urge_v the_o same_o notable_o against_o the_o paynim_n to_o prove_v
submit_v themselves_o to_o the_o church_n &_o throw_v down_o their_o crown_n before_o the_o church_n that_o 185._o magistrate_n as_o well_o as_o other_o man_n must_v submit_v themselves_o and_o be_v obedient_a to_o the_o just_a &_o lawful_a authority_n of_o the_o church_n that_o be_v of_o 89._o the_o presbytery_n quis_fw-la tandem_fw-la reges_fw-la &_o principes_fw-la who_o can_v exempt_v even_o king_n and_o prince_n from_o this_o non_fw-la humana_fw-la sed_fw-la divina_fw-la dominatione_fw-la not_o humane_a but_o divine_a domination_n mean_v the_o presbytery_n say_v 124._o beza_n which_o 84._o presbytery_n they_o will_v have_v to_o be_v in_o every_o parish_n quotquot_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la christi_fw-la as_o many_o as_o be_v member_n of_o christ_n and_o of_o the_o church_n they_o must_v subject_v themselves_o to_o the_o consistorian_n discipline_n non_fw-la hic_fw-la excipitur_fw-la episcopus_fw-la aut_fw-la imperator_fw-la neither_o bishop_n or_o emperor_n be_v except_v here_o thus_o say_v m._n rogers_n penult_n concern_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o puritan_n and_o add_v further_a also_o in_o the_o next_o leaf_n that_o if_o the_o king_n be_v not_o include_v in_o the_o number_n of_o pastor_n elder_n deacon_n and_o widow_n he_o can_v possible_o have_v any_o thing_n to_o do_v in_o church-affaire_n in_o these_o man_n opinion_n mean_v the_o puritan_n 80._o all_o this_o write_v m._n thomas_n rogers_n touch_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o puritan_n not_o past_o five_o year_n ago_o for_o his_o book_n be_v print_v in_o cambridge_n by_o john_n legate_n in_o the_o year_n of_o our_o lord_n 1607._o if_o then_o the_o puritan_n be_v so_o late_o as_o five_o year_n ago_o of_o the_o opinion_n that_o m._n barlow_n and_o m._n roger_n report_n which_o be_v the_o same_o that_o the_o cardinal_n affirm_v either_o let_v m._n andrews_n tell_v we_o precise_o in_o what_o book_n or_o sermon_n since_o that_o time_n they_o have_v recall_v this_o error_n or_o else_o if_o he_o will_v needs_o say_v that_o they_o do_v it_o before_o i_o will_v turn_v he_o to_o these_o two_o for_o answer_n not_o doubt_v but_o they_o be_v able_a to_o give_v he_o full_a satisfaction_n therein_o especial_o m._n rogers_n who_o have_v pawn_v the_o credit_n of_o all_o the_o english_a clergy_n for_o the_o truth_n of_o his_o testimony_n injurious_o and_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n i_o will_v desire_v thou_o good_a reader_n to_o consider_v whether_o m._n andrews_n can_v have_v any_o just_a cause_n or_o pretence_n to_o revile_v the_o cardinal_n and_o call_v he_o liar_n and_o dotard_n as_o he_o do_v for_o affirm_v a_o matter_n belong_v to_o our_o country_n which_o he_o find_v express_o testify_v by_o the_o great_a superintendent_n of_o our_o english_a clergy_n beside_o other_o sufficient_a reason_n move_v he_o thereto_o 81._o for_o put_v the_o case_n it_o be_v true_a as_o it_o be_v most_o false_a that_o the_o puritan_n have_v of_o late_o recant_v their_o error_n as_o m._n andrews_n term_v it_o yet_o the_o same_o have_v never_o be_v hitherto_o so_o publish_v that_o stranger_n can_v take_v notice_n thereof_o have_v m._n andrewâ—_n any_o reason_n in_o the_o world_n to_o reprehend_v and_o revyle_v any_o stranger_n for_o not_o acknowledge_v it_o be_v but_o a_o matter_n of_o fact_n which_o he_o neither_o know_v nor_o be_v bind_v to_o know_v true_o albeit_o m._n andrews_n be_v of_o a_o most_o intemperate_a tongue_n and_o malignant_a disposition_n towards_o catholykes_n as_o have_v appear_v diverse_a way_n yet_o i_o very_o think_v that_o if_o the_o weakness_n of_o his_o cause_n have_v not_o force_v he_o to_o brave_a and_o face_n it_o out_o with_o rail_v for_o lack_v of_o reason_n to_o defend_v it_o he_o will_v not_o in_o this_o case_n have_v be_v so_o immoderate_a in_o contumely_n and_o reproach_n towards_o the_o cardinal_n as_o he_o have_v be_v without_o any_o cause_n give_v of_o his_o part_n but_o herein_o he_o concur_v so_o well_o with_o his_o companion_n m._n barlow_n that_o it_o appear_v evident_o they_o be_v both_o guide_v by_o one_o spirit_n to_o conclude_v this_o point_n concern_v the_o puritan_n whereas_o m._n andrews_n say_v that_o they_o have_v of_o late_o acknowledge_v their_o error_n touch_v the_o king_n supremacy_n i_o will_v in_o the_o next_o chapter_n sequent_a make_v it_o evident_a that_o not_o they_o but_o he_o if_o he_o be_v a_o english_a protestant_n may_v be_v say_v to_o have_v acknowledge_v his_o error_n and_o that_o he_o be_v turn_v puritan_n in_o that_o point_n admit_v the_o king_n ecclesiastical_a supremacy_n no_o otherwise_o but_o so_o as_o they_o may_v safe_o grant_v it_o without_o change_n of_o opinion_n yea_o subscribe_v or_o swear_v to_o it_o in_o the_o same_o sense_n that_o he_o teach_v it_o and_o so_o perhaps_o such_o of_o they_o do_v as_o take_v the_o oath_n of_o supremacy_n verum_fw-la and_o this_o i_o say_v i_o make_v no_o doubt_n to_o prove_v clear_o in_o the_o next_o chapter_n quod_fw-la scio_fw-la punget_fw-la doctorem_fw-la as_o he_o say_v once_o of_o the_o cardinal_n 82._o to_o these_o example_n of_o his_o egregious_a impudence_n in_o this_o kind_n i_o may_v well_o add_v one_o or_o two_o other_o example_n of_o his_o impudent_a assertion_n of_o notable_a lie_n without_o allegation_n of_o author_n or_o witness_v as_o when_o he_o charge_v certain_a jesuit_n to_o have_v affirm_v or_o as_o it_o seem_v to_o have_v write_v that_o they_o commit_v no_o sin_n abannis_fw-la jesuit_n say_v he_o nescio_fw-la quot_fw-la i_o know_v not_o for_o how_o many_o year_n together_o which_o i_o dare_v bold_o affirm_v to_o be_v a_o monstrous_a lie_n i_o mean_v that_o any_o jesuit_n have_v so_o write_v or_o say_v either_o of_o himself_o or_o any_o other_o man_n for_o although_o i_o make_v no_o doubt_n but_o that_o many_o jesuit_n and_o other_o good_a man_n both_o religious_a and_o secular_a by_o the_o help_n of_o god_n grace_n do_v live_v free_a from_o all_o mortal_a sin_n that_o be_v to_o say_v such_o sin_n as_o do_v utter_o deprive_v man_n of_o god_n favour_n &_o grace_n and_o deserve_v eternal_a damnation_n yet_o i_o be_o well_o assure_v that_o no_o catholyke_n will_v say_v that_o any_o man_n live_v free_a from_o all_o sin_n such_o i_o mean_v as_o be_v call_v venial_a which_o can_v not_o be_v say_v of_o the_o apostle_n themselves_o as_o s._n john_n testify_v 1_o say_v si_fw-la dixerimus_fw-la quod_fw-la peccatum_fw-la non_fw-la habemus_fw-la etc._n etc._n if_o we_o say_v that_o we_o have_v no_o sin_n we_o seduce_v ourselves_o and_o truth_n be_v not_o in_o we_o and_o to_o the_o same_o purpose_n also_o the_o scripture_n say_v else_o where_o 24._o septies_fw-la in_o die_fw-la cadet_fw-la iustus_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o just_a man_n shall_v fall_v seven_o time_n a_o day_n and_o shall_v rise_v again_o 83._o and_o this_o be_v so_o know_v and_o firm_o believe_v of_o all_o catholykes_n that_o it_o be_v incredible_a that_o any_o one_o who_o profess_v the_o catholic_a religion_n shall_v affirm_v of_o any_o man_n and_o much_o less_o be_v so_o vain_a to_o say_v of_o himself_o that_o he_o commit_v no_o sin_n for_o some_o year_n &_o therefore_o m._n andrew_n must_v not_o think_v it_o strange_a if_o we_o take_v this_o for_o a_o egregious_a lie_n until_o he_o produce_v some_o other_o author_n or_o witness_v then_o himself_o as_o i_o doubt_v not_o but_o he_o will_v have_v do_v if_o he_o have_v any_o worth_n the_o name_n or_o else_o have_v not_o perhaps_o forget_v his_o name_n as_o well_o as_o the_o number_n of_o year_n in_o which_o those_o jesuit_n commit_v no_o sin_n for_o so_o it_o appear_v by_o his_o ab_fw-la annis_fw-la nescio_fw-la quot_fw-la whereby_o we_o may_v see_v what_o substantial_a tale_n he_o tell_v we_o see_v he_o write_v either_o he_o know_v not_o or_o at_o least_o he_o care_v not_o what_o 84._o the_o like_a i_o say_v also_o of_o another_o matter_n avow_a by_o he_o with_o more_o particularity_n prison_n and_o circumstance_n to_o wit_n that_o a_o jesuit_n be_v in_o prison_n at_o the_o same_o time_n when_o he_o write_v confess_v upon_o his_o own_o accord_n without_o all_o compulsion_n fear_n or_o examination_n move_v mere_o with_o remorse_n of_o conscience_n that_o the_o popesent_a to_o england_n 3_o bull_n of_o excommunication_n to_o be_v keep_v in_o readiness_n and_o publish_v in_o three_o several_a part_n of_o the_o realm_n upon_o the_o execution_n of_o the_o powder-plot_n whereupon_o he_o infer_v that_o the_o pope_n must_v needs_o be_v privy_a unto_o the_o say_a plot_n but_o for_o as_o much_o as_o i_o assure_v myself_o and_o know_v right_a well_o that_o no_o such_o bull_n as_o he_o mention_v be_v ever_o make_v i_o do_v not_o only_o deny_v the_o inference_n of_o the_o pope_n knowledge_n of_o the_o powder-plot_n but_o also_o may_v just_o charge_v m._n andrews_n to_o have_v feign_v the_o whole_a matter_n himself_o until_o he_o name_v the_o
4.5_o §._o locus_fw-la pag._n 48._o lin_v 14._o supra_fw-la chap._n 6._o s._n chrysost._n ho._n 20._o in_o ep_n ad_fw-la corin._n zozomen_n lib._n 7._o cap._n 24._o the_o emperor_n theodosius_n invocate_v saint_n &_o namely_o s._n john_n baptist_n andr._n p._n 45._o §._o locus_fw-la this_o be_v to_o give_v checkmate_n to_o all_o the_o ancient_a father_n at_o once_o and_o be_v there_o not_o one_o of_o all_o these_o great_a clerk_n that_o understand_v the_o scripture_n as_o well_o as_o this_o mynisterâ—_n â—_o tim._n 3._o matth._n 28._o it_o be_v prove_v by_o manifest_a experience_n that_o saint_n do_v hear_v our_o prayer_n &_o help_v us._n see_v chap._n 6._o theodorâ—_n de_fw-fr graec._n affect_v curan_fw-mi lib._n 8._o 8._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o ancient_a custom_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n to_o hang_v up_o votive_a representation_n of_o hand_n foot_n eye_n and_o such_o like_a in_o church_n to_o testify_v the_o recovery_n of_o bodily_a health_n by_o the_o intercession_n of_o saint_n andr._n p._n 40._o lin_v 5._o a_o very_a simple_a discourse_n of_o m._n andrews_n how_o saint_n may_v understand_v and_o know_v our_o prayer_n and_o action_n 4._o reg._n c._n 5._o s._n aug._n l._n de_fw-fr cura_fw-la pro_fw-la mort_fw-fr c._n 12._o ibid._n ca._n 15._o see_v chap._n 9_o nu_fw-la 42.43_o &_o 44._o s._n aug._n lib._n 2._o de_fw-fr civit._n dei_fw-la cap._n 9_o lact._n li._n 7._o cap._n 21._o bern._n ser._n 3._o de_fw-la omnib_fw-la sanct._n bellar._n de_fw-fr sanct_n feaâ—it_fw-la lib._n 1._o c._n 4._o &_o 5._o ibid._n cap._n 1._o s._n aug._n to._n 2._o â—p_n 86._o idem_fw-la ep_n 118._o the_o force_n and_o validity_n of_o ecclesiastical_a custom_n s._n hiero._n contra_fw-la lucifer_n câ—_n 4â—_n tertul._n de_fw-fr corona_fw-la mil._n cap._n 3._o see_v supra_fw-la nu_fw-la 41._o sozom._n bist_fw-ge lib._n 7._o cap._n 24._o s._n chryso_n ho._n 26._o in_o ep_n ad_fw-la corinth_n see_v baron_n a_o â—97_n in_o fine_a &_o in_o â—nno_fw-la 407._o s._n paulinus_n ep_n 12._o add_v sever_v card._n apolâ—_n p._n â—7_n andr._n p._n 4â—_n §_o postquam_fw-la the_o testimony_n of_o s._n paulin_n for_o the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n defend_v against_o m._n andrews_n see_v before_o nu_fw-la 6._o s._n aug._n ser._n 17._o dâ—_n verb._n apostol_n pa._n 18._o m._n andrews_n his_o answer_n to_o a_o place_n of_o s._n augustine_n examine_v and_o confute_v andr._n p._n 46._o §._o at._n a_o most_o vain_a and_o ridiculous_a brag_n of_o m._n andrews_n s_o aug._n the_o civet_n dei_fw-la l._n 22â—_n ca._n 10._o a_o childish_a discourse_n of_o m._n andrews_n contain_v three_o foolish_a demand_n touch_v the_o invocation_n which_o s._n augustine_n say_v be_v due_a to_o god_n alone_a chap._n 6._o nu_fw-la 2._o &_o seq_n ibid._n the_o true_a sense_n of_o s._n augustinâ—_n declare_v the_o invocation_n whereof_o s._n augustin_n speak_v be_v properâ—_n to_o priestly_a function_n and_o not_o to_o be_v use_v but_o in_o sacrifice_n s._n augustine_n do_v no_o way_n impugn_v the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n in_o the_o place_n allege_v by_o m._n andrews_n m._n andrews_n do_v seem_v to_o confound_v the_o priest_n with_o the_o people_n mass_n with_o matin_n and_o the_o altar_n with_o every_o other_o place_n three_o foolish_a demand_n of_o m._n andrews_n answer_v according_a to_o s_o augustin_n meaning_n m._n andrews_n his_o extravagant_a and_o foolish_a gloss_n upon_o saint_n augustin_n place_n object_v by_o the_o cardinal_n s._n augustine_n express_a doctrine_n concern_v the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n s._n aug._n in_o lib._n de_fw-fr cura_fw-la pro._n mort_fw-fr cap._n 4._o a_o notable_a miracle_n recount_v by_o s._n augustine_n s._n aug._n the_o civet_n dei_fw-la lib._n 22._o c._n 8._o a_o inference_n upon_o the_o miracle_n relate_v by_o s._n augustine_n the_o conclusion_n of_o this_o chapter_n touch_v the_o vanity_n of_o m._n andrews_n &_o the_o conformity_n of_o s._n augustine_n with_o the_o other_o father_n allege_v by_o the_o cardinal_n for_o prayer_n to_o saint_n andr._n p._n 39_o §._o neque_fw-la m._n andrews_n confidence_n in_o the_o canon_n of_o the_o council_n of_o laodicea_n theodoret_n notable_o abuse_v by_o m_n andrews_n coloss._n 2._o theodoret._n in_o c._n â—_o ep_n ad_fw-la colossâ—n_n m._n andrews_n abuse_v the_o council_n of_o laodicea_n andr._n p._n 39_o §._o neque_fw-la the_o council_n of_o laodicea_n forbid_v idolatry_n to_o angel_n &_o not_o prayer_n â—o_z they_o theodorâ—t_n in_o 3._o coloss._n theodoret_n his_o meaning_n clear_o explicate_v by_o his_o own_o word_n theodoret_n forbid_v such_o prayer_n to_o angel_n as_o exclude_v the_o mediation_n of_o christ._n council_n laodic_n cap._n 35._o the_o meaning_n of_o the_o canon_n of_o the_o council_n of_o laodicea_n what_o kind_n of_o idolatry_n be_v do_v to_o angel_n by_o the_o phrygian_n rom._n 15._o 1._o cor._n 1._o thess._n 3._o colos._n 4._o josue_n 5._o dan._n 10._o judith_n 13._o act._n 12._o matth._n 18._o 1._o cor._n 11._o s._n dionys._n areop_n eccles_n hier._n c._n 9_o s._n justin_n mart._n quaest_n 30._o clemens_n alexand._n li._n 5._o storm_n origen_n ho._n 8._o in_o gen._n &_o alibipassim_fw-la s._n basil._n ho._n in_o psal._n 33._o s._n chrysost._n ho._n 3._o ad_fw-la c._n 1._o ad_fw-la colos._n theodor._n ad_fw-la cap._n 10._o daniel_n &_o in_o genes_n quae_n 3._o s._n hilar._n ad_fw-la psal._n 129._o &_o ca._n 18._o in_o mat._n s._n hiâ—ron_n ad_fw-la ca._n 66._o esai_n s._n ambros._n l._n de_fw-la viduis_fw-la s._n aug._n in_o soliloquijâ—_n cap._n 27._o theodor._n in_o gâ—nes_n quaest_n â—â—_o m._n andrews_n must_v reform_v his_o understanding_n of_o theodoret_n the_o place_n of_o s._n paul_n forbid_v the_o religion_n of_o angel_n explicate_v explicate_v tertul._n de_fw-fr praesor_fw-la cap._n 23._o in_o finâ—_n finâ—_n iraeâ—â—â—â—_n lib._n 1._o c._n 25._o tertul._n de_fw-fr praescrip_n cap._n 4â—_n s._n epiphaâ—_n haer_fw-mi 28._o s._n chryso_n in_o 2._o ad_fw-la 〈◊〉_d oecum_fw-la theoph._n in_o hunc_fw-la locum_fw-la s._n hieron_n q._n 10._o ad_fw-la algasiaâ—_n haymo_n in_o ep_n ad_fw-la colos._n cap._n 2._o the_o conclusion_n 〈◊〉_d m._n andrews_n his_o objection_n out_o of_o theodoret_n see_v before_o chap._n 7._o 〈◊〉_d 44._o another_o objection_n of_o m._n anâ—drews_n answer_v touch_v the_o question_n whether_o saint_n do_v hear_v we_o and_o how_o they_o see_v or_o know_v our_o action_n action_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d before_o chap._n 7._o nu_fw-la 42_o 4â—_n &_o seq_n anâ—r_n pag._n 34._o ut_fw-la hoc_fw-la tamen_fw-la many_o effect_n evident_a though_o their_o cause_n be_v secret_a and_o unknown_a and_o first_o of_o natural_a effect_n the_o same_o be_v to_o be_v grant_v much_o more_o in_o supernatural_a thing_n thing_n pa._n 37._o §._o ut_fw-la hoc_fw-la s._n aug._n the_o civet_n li_z 22._o cap._n 8._o idem_fw-la ibid._n c._n â—_o m._n andrews_n convince_v by_o that_o which_o he_o grant_v elsewhere_o elsewhere_o andâ—_n p._n 40._o §._o non_fw-fr verâ—â—_n andr._n p._n 37._o §._o ut_fw-la hoc_fw-la upon_o what_o ground_n the_o doctrine_n that_o saint_n do_v hear_v our_o prayer_n be_v found_v luc._n 1â—_n luc._n 20._o â—_o reg._n 9_o â—_o reg._n 5._o ibid._n cap._n â—_o act._n 7._o apoc._n â—â—_o s._n atha_n q._n 11._o the_o father_n plain_o testify_v that_o the_o saint_n do_v know_v all_o our_o action_n in_o earth_n s._n basil_n dâ—_n vera_fw-la virginitate_fw-la paulo_fw-la ante_fw-la medium_n s._n ambros._n de_fw-fr viduis_fw-la apoc._n 14._o vigilaâ—â—â—_n â—â—_z theodoret_n de_fw-fr graec._n â—ffect_n cuâ—â—_n lib._n 8._o â—_o chrys._n ho._n â—â—_o in_o ep_n ad_fw-la corinth_n s._n aug._n li._n â—â—_o de_fw-fr civet_n 〈◊〉_d cap._n â—â—_o â—_o reg._n â—_o s._n greg._n li._n 12._o moral_a cap._n 14._o idem_fw-la li._n 4._o dial._n ca._n 33._o a_o good_a deduction_n upon_o m._n andrews_n his_o own_o grant_n grant_n s._n cyprian_n li._n de_fw-fr mortalit_fw-la item_n ep_n 57_o 57_o andr._n pag._n 37._o §._o omnia_fw-la item_n p._n 46._o lin_v 9_o andr._n p._n 4._o §._o non_fw-fr verè_fw-la a_o brief_a recapitulation_n of_o the_o reason_n whereupon_o be_v ground_v the_o doctrine_n that_o saint_n hear_v our_o prayer_n see_v before_o nu_fw-la 13_o &_o 14._o another_o silly_a shift_n of_o m._n andrews_n andr_n cap._n 1_o p._n 37._o §._o verum_fw-la deut._n 12._o m._n andrews_n be_v so_o scrupulous_a that_o he_o dare_v do_v nothing_o without_o â—_o precept_n or_o example_n in_o scripture_n his_o impertinent_a allegation_n of_o scripture_n deut._n 12._o a_o explication_n of_o the_o place_n of_o deuteronomy_n allege_v by_o m._n andrews_n hest._n 9_o judith_n ca._n ult._n 1._o machab._n 4._o joan._n 10._o m._n andrews_n hardly_o press_v by_o his_o own_o argument_n gal._n 5._o how_o argument_n may_v be_v deduce_v from_o the_o law_n of_o moses_n see_v chap._n 1._o nu_fw-la 14.15_o &_o 16._o m._n andrews_n his_o argument_n prove_v himself_o to_o be_v a_o jew._n matth._n 28._o â—_o thes._n 2._o 2._o hom._n
the_o whole_a church_n but_o because_o he_o be_v head_n or_o supreme_a governor_n thereof_o 1._o which_o we_o may_v learn_v even_o in_o cicero_n key_n who_o say_v that_o est_fw-la proprium_fw-la munus_fw-la magistratus_fw-la etc._n etc._n it_o be_v the_o proper_a office_n or_o duty_n of_o the_o magistrate_n to_o understand_v that_o he_o bear_v the_o person_n of_o the_o city_n so_o he_o speak_v of_o the_o chief_a or_o supreme_a magistrate_n whereby_o it_o appear_v that_o whatsoever_o be_v give_v to_o the_o king_n as_o king_n and_o head_n of_o the_o commonwealth_n the_o same_o be_v give_v to_o the_o commonwealth_n whereof_o he_o bear_v and_o represent_v the_o person_n and_o so_o in_o like_a manner_n what_o be_v give_v to_o s._n peter_n as_o head_n of_o the_o church_n the_o same_o be_v give_v to_o the_o church_n which_o he_o represent_v for_o which_o cause_n also_o s._n cyprian_n say_v that_o ecclesia_fw-la est_fw-la in_o episcopo_fw-la the_o church_n be_v in_o the_o bishop_n and_o the_o reason_n be_v because_o the_o bishop_n be_v head_n of_o the_o church_n &_o as_o this_o be_v true_a in_o every_o particular_a bishop_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o particular_a church_n which_o he_o govern_v so_o also_o be_v it_o most_o true_o verify_v in_o the_o supreme_a and_o universal_a pastor_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n whereof_o he_o be_v head_n 5._o that_o this_o be_v s._n augustine_n meaning_n it_o be_v evident_a by_o his_o own_o doctrine_n in_o other_o place_n doctrine_n where_o he_o show_v plain_o that_o s._n peter_n bear_v the_o person_n of_o figure_n of_o the_o church_n in_o respect_n of_o his_o primacy_n cvius_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la say_v he_o petrus_n apostolus_fw-la propter_fw-la apostolatus_fw-la svi_fw-la primatum_fw-la gerebat_fw-la figurata_fw-la generalitate_fw-la personam_fw-la etc._n etc._n of_o which_o church_n peter_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o primacy_n of_o his_o apostleship_n do_v bear_v the_o person_n joan._n figure_v or_o represent_v the_o generality_n thereof_o for_o if_o we_o respect_v what_o do_v belong_v proper_o to_o himself_o he_o be_v by_o nature_n one_o man_n by_o grace_n one_o christian_n and_o by_o a_o more_o abundant_a grace_n unus_fw-la idemque_fw-la primus_fw-la apostolus_fw-la one_o &_o he_o the_o chief_a apostle_n but_o when_o it_o be_v say_v unto_o he_o tibi_fw-la dabo_fw-la clave_n i_o will_v give_v thou_o the_o key_n etc._n etc._n he_o signify_v the_o universal_a church_n thus_o say_v s._n augustine_n teach_v evident_o that_o s._n peter_n bear_v the_o person_n of_o the_o church_n by_o reason_n of_o the_o primacy_n of_o his_o apostleship_n that_o be_v to_o say_v because_o he_o be_v the_o chief_a apostle_n which_o the_o same_o holy_a father_n signify_v also_o more_o plain_o in_o another_o place_n say_v 108._o cvius_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la ille_fw-la agnoscitur_fw-la gessisse_fw-la personam_fw-la propter_fw-la primatum_fw-la quem_fw-la in_o discipulis_fw-la habuit_fw-la of_o which_o church_n he_o be_v acknowledge_v to_o have_v bear_v the_o person_n for_o the_o primacy_n which_o he_o have_v among_o the_o disciple_n and_o to_o the_o same_o purpose_n he_o say_v also_o elsewhere_o dom._n petrus_n à _fw-la petra_fw-la cognominatus_fw-la etc._n etc._n peter_n take_v his_o name_n from_o a_o rock_n be_v happy_a bear_v the_o figure_n of_o the_o church_n have_v the_o principality_n of_o the_o apostleship_n 6._o loe_o then_o for_o what_o cause_n s._n augustine_n say_v that_o when_o christ_n give_v to_o s._n peter_n the_o key_n of_o heaven_n &_o pastoral_a authority_n to_o feed_v his_o sheep_n augustine_n he_o give_v the_o same_o to_o all_o the_o church_n to_o wit_n because_o s._n peter_n have_v the_o principality_n or_o primacy_n of_o the_o apostolical_a dignity_n and_o be_v consequent_o chief_a pastor_n and_o head_n of_o the_o church_n do_v bear_v and_o represent_v the_o person_n or_o figure_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n so_o that_o you_o see_v the_o place_n which_o m._n andrew_n bring_v out_o of_o s._n augustine_n against_o the_o primacy_n of_o s._n peter_n make_v notable_o for_o it_o if_o it_o be_v consider_v with_o the_o circumstance_n thereof_o which_o he_o cunning_o and_o crafty_o conceal_v but_o in_o the_o other_o place_n which_o he_o cit_v out_o of_o s._n ambrose_n he_o be_v more_o fraudulent_a have_v plain_o corrupt_v the_o text_n which_o as_o it_o be_v in_o s._n ambrose_n be_v very_o conform_v to_o this_o doctrine_n of_o s._n augustine_n signify_v nothing_o else_o but_o that_o all_o the_o lawful_a pastor_n in_o god_n church_n 1._o receive_v their_o pastoral_a authority_n over_o their_o flock_n with_o s._n peter_n and_o therefore_o he_o say_v quas_fw-la oves_fw-la &_o quem_fw-la gregem_fw-la non_fw-la solùm_fw-la tunc_fw-la beatus_fw-la petrus_n suscepit_fw-la sed_fw-la &_o cum_fw-la illo_fw-la eas_fw-la nos_fw-la suscepimus_fw-la omnes_fw-la which_o sheep_n and_o which_o flock_v not_o only_o the_o bless_a peter_n then_o receive_v but_o as_o so_o we_o all_o receive_v they_o with_o he_o thus_o say_v s._n ambrose_n which_o all_o catholic_n do_v grant_v and_o teach_v in_o like_a manner_n because_o as_o i_o have_v say_v s._n peter_n represent_v the_o person_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n whereof_o he_o be_v head_n receive_v not_o that_o pastoral_a authority_n for_o himself_o alone_o but_o also_o for_o the_o church_n 7._o in_o which_o respect_n s._n ambrose_n say_v very_o well_o declare_v that_o all_o the_o pastor_n of_o the_o church_n receive_v their_o authority_n with_o he_o though_o not_o in_o equal_a degree_n as_o m._n andrews_n will_v have_v it_o who_o therefore_o bodge_v into_o s._n ambrose_n his_o text_n these_o word_n of_o his_o own_o et_fw-la nobiscum_fw-la eas_fw-la suscepit_fw-la and_o he_o that_o be_v to_o say_v s._n peter_n receive_v those_o sheep_n with_o we_o as_o if_o s._n ambrose_n shall_v mean_v that_o s._n peter_n have_v no_o prerogative_n in_o that_o point_n but_o that_o he_o and_o other_o pastor_n receive_v they_o all_o alike_o he_o with_o they_o &_o they_o with_o he_o for_o to_o that_o purpose_n do_v m._n andrew_n also_o allege_v the_o word_n of_o s._n ambrose_n afterward_o in_o a_o different_a letter_n thus_o verum_fw-la et_fw-la ille_fw-la nobisâ—um_fw-la &_o nos_fw-la cum_fw-la illo_fw-la oves_fw-la illas_fw-la pascendas_fw-la suscepimus_fw-la which_o manner_n of_o speech_n do_v indeed_o enforce_v a_o great_a equality_n betwixt_o s._n peter_n and_o other_o pastor_n than_o the_o true_a word_n of_o s._n ambrose_n do_v import_n or_o then_o he_o ever_o do_v imagine_v who_o teach_v express_o elsewhere_o the_o primacy_n of_o s._n peter_n not_o only_o above_o all_o other_o inferior_a pastor_n but_o also_o above_o the_o apostle_n themselves_o say_v 12._o that_o albeit_o andrew_n be_v call_v before_o peter_n yet_o primatum_fw-la non_fw-la accepit_fw-la andraeas_n sed_fw-la petrus_n andrew_n do_v not_o receive_v the_o primacy_n but_o peter_n yea_o &_o in_o another_o place_n he_o prove_v it_o by_o these_o very_a word_n of_o our_o saviour_n which_o be_v now_o in_o question_n to_o wit_n pâ—sce_n oves_fw-la meas_fw-la 8._o for_o have_v say_v that_o our_o saviour_n ask_v peter_n thrice_o whether_o he_o love_v he_o not_o to_o learn_v luc._n say_v he_o any_o thing_n of_o he_o but_o to_o teach_v he_o who_o he_o mean_v to_o leave_v to_o we_o velut_fw-la amoris_fw-la svi_fw-la vicarium_fw-la as_o the_o vicar_n of_o his_o love_n he_o allege_v our_o saviour_n word_n to_o s._n peter_n meas_fw-la to_o wit_n simon_n the_o son_n of_o john_n do_v thou_o love_v i_o etc._n etc._n pasce_fw-la agnos_fw-la meos_fw-la feed_v my_o lamb_n and_o then_o short_o after_o he_o infer_v thereupon_o thus_o et_fw-la ideo_fw-la quia_fw-la solus_fw-la profitetur_fw-la ex_fw-la omnibus_fw-la omnibus_fw-la antefertur_fw-la and_o therefore_o because_o he_o alone_o of_o all_o the_o rest_n profess_v his_o love_n he_o be_v prefer_v before_o they_o all_o and_o after_o a_o while_n he_o conclude_v that_o our_o lord_n ask_v he_o the_o three_o time_n whether_o he_o love_v he_o et_fw-la iam_fw-la say_v he_o non_fw-la agnos_fw-la ut_fw-la primò_fw-la quodam_fw-la lacte_fw-la pâ—scendos_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o now_o peter_n be_v command_v not_o to_o feed_v lamb_n with_o a_o certain_a milk_n as_o the_o first_o time_n nor_o to_o feed_v the_o little_a sheep_n as_o the_o second_o time_n but_o oves_fw-la pascere_fw-la iubetur_fw-la perfectiores_fw-la ut_fw-la perfectior_fw-la gubernaret_fw-la he_o be_v command_v to_o feed_v the_o sheep_n to_o the_o end_n that_o he_o be_v more_o perfect_a may_v govern_v the_o more_o perfect_a thus_o say_v s._n ambrose_n 9_o wherein_o it_o be_v to_o be_v note_v that_o he_o teach_v 3._o thing_n ambrose_n the_o first_o that_o our_o saviour_n leave_v s._n peter_n unto_o we_o as_o the_o vicar_n or_o substitute_n of_o his_o love_n that_o be_v to_o say_v to_o succeed_v he_o in_o that_o fatherly_a love_n &_o care_n of_o his_o church_n which_o he_o himself_o have_v the_o second_o that_o when_o our_o saviour_n give_v to_o s._n peter_n the_o pastoral_a commission_n and_o authority_n
to_o feed_v his_o lamb_n and_o sheep_n he_o prefer_v he_o therein_o before_o all_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o apostle_n quia_fw-la solus_fw-la say_v s._n ambrose_n profitetur_fw-la ex_fw-la omnibus_fw-la omnibus_fw-la antefertur_fw-la the_o three_o be_v that_o whereas_o s._n ambrose_n observe_v three_o degree_n of_o christian_n to_o wit_n lamb_n little_a sheep_n and_o sheep_n all_o recommend_v to_o the_o pastoral_n care_n of_o s._n peter_n he_o give_v to_o understand_v that_o all_o sort_n of_o christian_n be_v commit_v to_o his_o charge_n and_o government_n and_o not_o the_o weak_a only_o but_o the_o most_o holy_a also_o learned_a and_o perfect_a yea_o even_o the_o apostle_n themselves_o and_o therefore_o he_o say_v ut_fw-la perfectiores_fw-la perfectior_fw-la gubernaret_fw-la 10._o this_o then_o be_v s._n ambrose_n his_o sense_n and_o doctrine_n concern_v the_o pastoral_a commission_n give_v to_o s._n peter_n it_o be_v most_o evident_a that_o when_o he_o teach_v that_o all_o pastor_n receive_v their_o flock_n with_o s._n peter_n he_o teach_v it_o in_o the_o same_o sense_n that_o s._n augustine_n do_v to_o wit_n that_o because_o s._n peter_n be_v supreme_a pastor_n represent_v the_o whole_a church_n and_o receive_v the_o pastoral_a authority_n not_o for_o himself_o alone_o but_o also_o for_o all_o those_o who_o be_v either_o at_o that_o time_n or_o ever_o shall_v be_v subordinate_a unto_o he_o shift_n therefore_o all_o other_o pastor_n receive_v their_o authority_n not_o only_o in_o he_o as_o s._n augustine_n speak_v but_o also_o with_o he_o that_o be_v to_o say_v in_o and_o with_o their_o chief_a pastor_n and_o head_n and_o therefore_o whereas_o d._n andrews_n to_o make_v a_o great_a show_n of_o parity_n or_o equality_n betwixt_o s._n peter_n and_o other_o pastor_n have_v add_v to_o s._n ambrose_n his_o text_n those_o word_n of_o his_o own_o &_o nobiscum_fw-la eas_fw-la accepit_fw-la it_o may_v pass_v for_o a_o piece_n of_o coggery_n and_o well_o discover_v his_o skill_n to_o help_v the_o dice_n when_o he_o be_v put_v to_o his_o shift_n 11._o beside_o that_o his_o vanity_n and_o folly_n notable_o appear_v in_o that_o have_v gain_v nothing_o andrews_n but_o rather_o lose_v his_o cause_n by_o allege_v these_o two_o place_n of_o s._n augustine_n and_o s._n ambrose_n yet_o he_o brag_v thereof_o afterward_o as_o if_o he_o have_v get_v a_o great_a victory_n say_v in_o the_o 214._o page_n that_o although_o 215._o pasce_fw-la oves_fw-la be_v say_v in_o the_o singular_a number_n and_o to_o one_o to_o wit_n s._n peter_n yet_o it_o pass_v to_o all_o and_o that_o clariùs_fw-la id_fw-la loquuntur_fw-la ambrose_n &_o augustinus_n quam_fw-la ut_fw-la obstrepere_fw-la possint_fw-la novitij_fw-la nostri_fw-la ambrose_n and_o augustine_n do_v speak_v or_o affirm_v it_o more_o plain_o then_o that_o our_o novice_n can_v any_o way_n contradict_v it_o so_o he_o meaning_n by_o our_o novice_n the_o catholic_n as_o i_o take_v it_o though_o i_o know_v not_o why_o he_o so_o call_v they_o neither_o do_v i_o mean_v here_o to_o discuss_v it_o but_o will_v remit_v to_o the_o indifferent_a reader_n to_o judge_v what_o cause_n he_o have_v so_o to_o brag_v of_o these_o two_o father_n and_o what_o fidelity_n he_o have_v show_v in_o allege_v they_o dissemble_v the_o clear_a doctrine_n of_o the_o one_o and_o corrupt_v as_o well_o the_o text_n as_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o other_o and_o thus_o much_o for_o his_o first_o answer_n 12._o in_o his_o second_o he_o seek_v to_o retort_v the_o cardinal_n argument_n upon_o he_o cardinal_n and_o to_o prove_v the_o king_n supremacy_n by_o the_o word_n pasce_fw-la which_o he_o say_v he_o know_v will_v touch_v the_o cardinal_n to_o the_o quick_a quod_fw-la scio_fw-la say_v he_o punget_fw-la cardinalem_fw-la let_v we_o hear_v then_o this_o sharp_a argument_n which_o i_o think_v will_v prove_v a_o very_a blunt_a one_o thus_o than_o he_o say_v negat_fw-la cardinalis_fw-la primatum_fw-la regis_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o 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god_n who_o give_v the_o levit_n not_o to_o the_o temporal_a prince_n 8._o but_o to_o aaron_n and_o his_o child_n tradidi_fw-la eos_fw-la dono_fw-la aaron_n &_o filijs_fw-la eius_fw-la de_fw-la medio_fw-la populi_fw-la i_o have_v give_v they_o say_v almighty_a god_n for_o a_o gift_n to_o aaron_n and_o his_o child_n out_o of_o the_o midst_n of_o the_o people_n beside_o that_o god_n ordain_v express_o that_o the_o tribe_n of_o levi_n shall_v not_o be_v number_v 1._o neither_o yet_o have_v any_o part_n or_o inheritance_n with_o the_o rest_n of_o israel_n because_o he_o have_v reserve_v the_o same_o for_o his_o own_o service_n and_o therefore_o will_v himself_n be_v their_o possession_n 18._o portion_n and_o inheritance_n so_o that_o this_o be_v very_o clear_a in_o the_o express_a word_n of_o the_o law_n 24._o which_o as_o i_o also_o prove_v be_v never_o alter_v but_o rather_o confirm_v at_o the_o institution_n of_o the_o king_n who_o be_v express_o bind_v to_o observe_v the_o whole_a law_n and_o to_o obey_v the_o high_a priest_n i_o may_v say_v to_o the_o doctor_n as_o he_o say_v before_o to_o the_o cardinal_n atque_fw-la vel_fw-la sic_fw-la iacebit_fw-la doctori_fw-la ratio_fw-la sua_fw-la 14._o but_o put_v the_o case_n this_o be_v not_o so_o yea_o and_o that_o the_o priest_n of_o the_o old_a law_n have_v be_v subject_a to_o the_o king_n in_o spiritual_a matter_n whereof_o i_o have_v already_o prove_v the_o contrary_a will_n m._n andrews_n infer_v thereon_o supr_n that_o therefore_o king_n have_v also_o the_o spiritual_a supremacy_n in_o the_o new_a law_n without_o any_o new_a institution_n or_o ratification_n thereof_o by_o our_o saviour_n christ_n moses_n or_o his_o apostle_n do_v not_o this_o great_a doctor_n know_v that_o the_o mosaycal_a law_n be_v abrogate_a by_o the_o law_n of_o grace_n and_o that_o whereas_o it_o be_v divide_v into_o three_o part_n to_o wit_n judicial_a cerimoniall_a and_o moral_a the_o two_o former_a utter_o cease_v and_o the_o three_o i_o mean_v the_o moral_a part_n contain_v the_o commandment_n remain_v only_o in_o force_n not_o because_o it_o be_v institute_v then_o but_o because_o those_o commaundment_n be_v ground_v on_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n be_v always_o in_o force_n and_o therefore_o ordain_v again_o to_o be_v keep_v in_o the_o new_a law_n in_o which_o respect_n the_o commandment_n concern_v the_o sabbath_n do_v not_o now_o bind_v christian_n as_o it_o be_v then_o ordain_v and_o practise_v 15._o and_o therefore_o m._n andrews_n may_v aswell_o introduce_v polygamy_n practise_v in_o the_o old_a law_n as_o the_o spiritual_a supremacy_n of_o king_n if_o we_o shall_v grant_v that_o they_o then_o have_v any_o such_o and_o with_o much_o more_o reason_n may_v he_o teach_v abstinence_n from_o pudding_n and_o other_o meat_n make_v of_o blood_n see_v that_o we_o find_v some_o commandment_n or_o ordinance_n thereof_o in_o the_o act_n of_o apostle_n whereas_o there_o be_v no_o one_o syllable_n in_o all_o the_o new_a 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etc._n etc._n thus_o say_v the_o cardinal_n and_o after_o have_v lay_v down_o s._n cyprian_n word_n allege_v by_o s._n augustine_n be_v the_o same_o that_o you_o have_v hear_v before_o he_o add_v the_o word_n of_o s._n augustine_n which_o be_v these_o ecce_fw-la ubi_fw-la commemorate_fw-la cyprianus_n etc._n etc._n behold_v how_o cyprian_n do_v show_v that_o peter_n the_o apostle_n in_o who_o the_o primacy_n of_o the_o apostle_n be_v preeminent_a with_o such_o a_o excellent_a grace_n correct_v by_o paul_n a_o late_a apostle_n when_o he_o deal_v concern_v circumcision_n otherways_o then_o truth_n require_v so_o say_v s._n augustin_n whereby_o it_o evident_o appear_v how_o he_o understand_v s._n cyprian_n in_o this_o place_n to_o wit_n that_o albeit_o peter_n be_v preeminent_a and_o far_o excel_v the_o apostle_n by_o reason_n of_o his_o primacy_n yet_o when_o he_o err_v he_o patient_o suffer_v himself_o to_o be_v correct_v by_o paul_n and_o do_v not_o insolent_o and_o arrogant_o defend_v his_o error_n stand_v upon_o the_o authority_n of_o his_o primacy_n and_o challenge_v obedience_n of_o s._n paul_n and_o other_o 15._o this_o then_o be_v so_o and_o the_o cardinal_n opinion_n concern_v the_o meaning_n of_o s._n cyprian_n in_o this_o place_n be_v so_o â—ell_o fortify_v imputation_n as_o you_o have_v now_o hear_v by_o s._n augustine_n construction_n and_o judgement_n thereof_o what_o reason_n have_v any_o man_n to_o think_v that_o the_o cardinal_n do_v as_o m._n andrews_n charge_v he_o purposely_o and_o crafty_o suppress_v those_o word_n of_o s._n cyprian_n as_o not_o make_v for_o peter_n primacy_n whereas_o you_o see_v he_o take_v they_o to_o make_v much_o for_o it_o and_o do_v urge_v they_o notable_o to_o prove_v it_o therefore_o can_v any_o reasonable_a man_n imagine_v any_o fraud_n in_o the_o cardinal_n or_o any_o other_o cause_n why_o he_o do_v not_o eyte_n they_o in_o his_o apology_n but_o partly_o for_o brevitye_n sake_n which_o every_o may_v seethe_v how_o much_o he_o affect_v in_o all_o his_o work_n and_o partly_o because_o he_o think_v he_o have_v allege_v sufficient_a already_o out_o of_o that_o father_n to_o prove_v his_o intent_n 16._o so_o that_o whereas_o m._n andrews_n say_v ea_fw-la cypriani_fw-la mens_fw-la videtur_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o mind_n or_o sense_n of_o cyprian_a seem_v to_o be_v that_o if_o peter_n have_v say_v he_o have_v the_o primacy_n he_o have_v insolent_o challenge_v somewhat_o to_o himself_o that_o be_v to_o say_v more_o than_o be_v due_a unto_o he_o he_o do_v very_o well_o to_o say_v videtur_fw-la it_o seem_v for_o if_o he_o have_v absolute_o affirm_v it_o he_o have_v overlash_v very_o far_o beside_o that_o he_o may_v learn_v if_o it_o please_v he_o to_o make_v a_o great_a difference_n betwixt_o insolent_a true_o and_o â—also_fw-la insolent_o and_o false_o for_o a_o man_n may_v take_v upon_o he_o a_o true_a authority_n and_o speak_v of_o it_o insolent_o that_o be_v to_o say_v without_o just_a cause_n or_o in_o defence_n of_o some_o evil_a act_n and_o yet_o not_o false_o because_o it_o be_v true_a that_o he_o have_v the_o authority_n which_o he_o pretend_v and_o therefore_o i_o say_v that_o if_o s._n peter_n shall_v have_v stand_v upon_o his_o primacy_n in_o defence_n of_o his_o erroneous_a act_n and_o say_v that_o s._n paul_n ought_v to_o follow_v and_o obey_v he_o therein_o because_o he_o be_v the_o primate_n and_o head_n of_o the_o apostlesâ—_n he_o have_v both_o say_v and_o do_v insolent_o which_o nevertheless_o in_o defence_n of_o a_o truth_n or_o upon_o some_o other_o just_a occasion_n he_o may_v both_o say_v and_o do_v without_o all_o note_n of_o insolency_n yea_o just_o and_o necessary_o because_o he_o have_v indeed_o the_o primacy_n and_o therefore_o be_v to_o be_v obey_v and_o follow_v in_o all_o good_a and_o just_a action_n 17._o but_o now_o m._n andrews_n go_v forward_o and_o whereas_o the_o cardinal_n conclude_v that_o peter_n be_v the_o foundation_n of_o the_o church_n be_v therefore_o the_o head_n of_o it_o supr_n m._n andrews_n grant_v cyprian_n that_o s._n peter_n be_v fundamentum_fw-la quidem_fw-la unum_fw-la sed_fw-la non_fw-la unicum_fw-la one_o but_o not_o the_o only_a foundation_n esse_fw-la enim_fw-la illiusce_fw-la aedificij_fw-la duodecem_fw-la fundamenta_fw-la for_o that_o there_o be_v twelve_o foundation_n of_o that_o build_n but_o m._n andrews_n be_v here_o short_a of_o his_o account_n for_o he_o shall_v rather_o have_v say_v that_o there_o be_v thirteen_o except_o he_o will_v exclude_v christ_n of_o who_o the_o apostle_n say_v fundamentum_fw-la aliud_fw-la nemo_fw-la potest_fw-la ponere_fw-la etc._n etc._n no_o man_n can_v lay_v any_o other_o foundation_n then_o that_o which_o be_v already_o lay_v 3._o jesus_n christ_n of_o who_o also_o the_o prophet_n say_v ecce_fw-la ego_fw-la ponam_fw-la in_o fundamentis_fw-la zion_n lapidem_fw-la etc._n etc._n 28._o behold_v i_o will_v lay_v a_o stone_n in_o the_o foundation_n of_o zion_n a_o approve_a stone_n a_o corner_n and_o precious_a stone_n found_v in_o the_o foundation_n etc._n etc._n 18._o and_o this_o i_o be_o sure_a m._n andrews_n will_v not_o deny_v see_v that_o it_o be_v one_o of_o the_o most_o special_a argument_n whereby_o his_o fellow_n be_v wont_a to_o exclude_v s._n peter_n from_o be_v the_o foundation_n of_o the_o church_n to_o wit_n because_o christ_n be_v the_o foundation_n of_o it_o if_o therefore_o m._n andrews_n will_v admit_v twelve_o foundation_n of_o the_o church_n without_o prejudice_n to_o christ_n he_o may_v also_o admit_v eleven_o without_o prejudice_n to_o peter_n for_o albeit_o the_o twelve_o apostle_n be_v all_o found_v upon_o christ_n who_o be_v the_o first_o and_o principal_a stone_n yet_o peter_n may_v have_v the_o first_o place_n in_o the_o foundation_n next_o after_o christ_n be_v immediate_o found_v on_o he_o as_o head_n and_o ordinary_a pastor_n of_o the_o church_n and_o the_o rest_n upon_o peter_n as_o extraordinary_a and_o subordinate_a to_o 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assure_v you_o overthrow_v himself_o with_o his_o own_o answer_n for_o if_o that_o building_n which_o he_o say_v have_v twelve_o foundation_n be_v the_o church_n as_o indeed_o it_o be_v and_o so_o it_o appear_v by_o his_o quotation_n of_o the_o 24._o chapter_n of_o the_o apocalypse_n 24._o then_o may_v the_o cardinal_n very_o easy_o show_v he_o also_o a_o body_n that_o have_v twelve_o head_n even_o according_a to_o the_o doctrine_n and_o opinion_n of_o m._n andrews_n himself_o who_o can_v not_o deny_v but_o that_o the_o church_n be_v a_o body_n i_o mean_v such_o a_o body_n as_o here_o we_o treat_v of_o to_o wit_n not_o a_o natural_a but_o a_o mystical_a body_n neither_o can_v he_o deny_v that_o the_o apostle_n be_v head_n of_o that_o body_n see_v all_o of_o they_o have_v as_o m._n andrews_n still_o tell_v we_o the_o charge_n and_o government_n of_o the_o church_n alike_o and_o therefore_o be_v twelve_o governor_n they_o be_v also_o twelve_o head_n 20._o be_v it_o then_o so_o hard_a a_o 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oecolâ—mpadius_n bucer_n peter_n martyr_n ochinus_n michonius_n menius_n musculus_fw-la pelicanus_n pomeranus_n and_o munsterus_n be_v all_o of_o they_o votary_n that_o be_v to_o say_v monk_n friar_n and_o religious_a man_n abolish_v the_o institutes_n of_o monastical_a life_n only_o because_o they_o themselves_o be_v so_o transport_v with_o the_o fury_n of_o lust_n and_o sensuality_n that_o they_o can_v no_o long_o endure_v the_o restraint_n thereof_o in_o religious_a discipline_n 27._o and_o therefore_o they_o resolve_v not_o only_o to_o teach_v most_o beastly_a and_o fleshly_a doctrine_n tend_v to_o all_o liberty_n of_o the_o flesh_n as_o that_o it_o matrimo_fw-la be_v no_o more_o possible_a to_o live_v chaste_a then_o to_o live_v without_o meat_n that_o 119._o if_o the_o wife_n will_v not_o come_v let_v the_o maid_n come_v that_o polygamy_n or_o the_o have_v of_o many_o wife_n at_o once_o be_v 11._o not_o forbid_v in_o the_o new_a law_n yea_o and_o that_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a 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