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A20497 A discourse against flatterie Chandos, Grey Brydges, Baron, d. 1621.; Devonshire, William Cavendish, Earl of, 1590-1628, attributed name.; Cavendish, Gilbert, attributed name.; Hobbes, Thomas, 1588-1679, attributed name. 1611 (1611) STC 6906; ESTC S116952 26,793 158

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English thus Thou lyest yet I beleeue thee still I prayse thy rimes though they be ill Thou sing'st and strait I eccho thee Each health thou drinkest is pledged by me Thou crackst full loud and sowre dost vent I heare no sound nor smell no sent Playest thou with mee at any game I purposely doe loose the same Some trickes there are which thou dost act I neither doe nor tell the fact Thou nought auailest me for all this Sayest when thou diest thou wilt not misse To recompence mee Therefore I Will aske but this that thou would'st die And Terence likewise paints vs out his fashion of life and meanes of liuing as followeth Omnia habeo nec quicquā habeo nihil cū est nihil desit tamē But by what meanes He tels you Est genus hominum qui esse primos se omnium volunt Nec sunt hos sector Hisc●ogo non paro me vt rideant Sed his vltro arrideo eorum ingenia admiror simul Quicquid dicunt laudo i●rursum si negant laudo id quoque Negat quis nego ait ai● Postremo imperaut egomet mih● Omnia assentari is quaest● nunc est multo vberrimus In English thus I all things haue wher each thing seemeth scant Though nought I haue yet nothing do I vant By this meanes Some men most complete do thēselues esteeme But yet in truth they are not what they seeme These I obserue yet keepe my selfe thus free That sure they shall not fasten iests on me I smile at them and eke their wits admire Speake they t' is good the same that I desire If they vnsay what they affirmed before It s better still I le praise them euermore Affirme denie as they say so say I And this I hold bes● thriuing Policy Pliny writes that there are a kind of creature called Androgyni of a double nature resembling both sexes male and female Flatterers are of a double shape as well as these though not in their bodie yet in their mindes Fo● sometimes they are valiant sometimes cowardly sometimes Philosophers sometimes fooles sometimes pleasant sometime● sad sometimes friendes sometimes enemies For as the parties with whom they deale doe change or as their fortunes doe change so doe they Carisophus Dionysius his flatterer was of this kind who seeing Dionysius in company laughing and very merry hee laughed too though he knew not the cause Dionysius perceiuing it asked him why he laughed because said he I thinke that which moues you to laughter is worth laughing at And this for the most part is the signe of a flatterer Sometimes also it is the marke of a foole This flattery is the sweet baite of enuie the cloake of malice the great pestilence of the world a monster vgly to behold if it might be seene very dangerous to trust if it might bee knowne It hath as many heads as Hydra to inuent wickednesse as many hands as Briaraeus to commit euill as many eyes as Argos to behold vengeance as swift legs as Thalus to goe to naughtinesse entring into euery mans house with a toung as sweete as hony hauing his heart as bitter as gal of whom the old Prouerbe is spoken Mel in ore verba lactis fel in corde frausin factis This flatterer is one as Ouid saith that denieth with the negatiue and affirmeth with the affirmatiue weepeth with him that is sad and laugheth with him that is mery As somtimes Clisophus when his master Philip king of Macedonia and father to Alexander the Great halted because hee had the gout hee would halt likewise and when the King was merry in his drinke Clisophus would not bee sad and whatsoeuer Philip did take in hand Clisophus would maintaine Aristippus the Philosopher could better please King Dionysius with adulation then Dion the Siracusan could pleasure him with Philosophy truth Cleo could better accomplish the desire and lust of Alexander with forged flattery then Calistenes his counseller could preuaile with him by his counsell Who could moue Caesar to any thing so much as Curio the Parasite not Pompeius his sonne in law nor his onely daughter Iulia nor all the Senators of Rome might make Caesar friend or foe so much as Curio These kind of men deale with vs as Achabs false Prophets dealt with him for they assured him of great lucke and good fortune to come but it fell out otherwise euen so they vse to flatter vs and put vs in hope of verie good fortune successe to come and in the meane while they passe with silence the truth present Adulatoris verba saith one sunt iniquitas dolus The words of a flatterer are wickednesse and deceit it is a cancred disease and such a one as groweth vpon vs and though at the first it seeme but little yet for all that it taketh deepe hold and payes vs home at the latter end These are the Sirens that with their sweet inchaunting musicke cause some to fall vpon Scylla some vpō Charibdis These are the whores daughters of Megara soothing men in their faults as they did the daughters of Proserpina These are the infernall Priestes disswading from all good proposed and from all right intended and from any thing that is pleasing to God But contrarily perswaders of all vncleannesse wickednesse obscoenitie and iniustice and as one saith well Incipiunt â placebo sed in fine sepeliunt in peccatis There are of this wicked crew some sorts who so they may please care neither why nor what they praise Salomon counts these no fit Company for vs. The wounds of a louer are faithfull but the kisses of an enemie are to be shunned He also telles the flatterers their reward He that praiseth his friend with a loud voyce rising earely in the morning it shall be counted to him as a curse And these flatterers for the most part vse this trade eyther for hope of fauour or gaine and therefore you shall finde thē most commonly in the company of such men as are in dignitie and place wherefore as one saith well These sort of flatterers are worse then crowes for they feede onely vpon dead carrion but these vpon liuing men For as no vermine will breede where they finde no warmth no vulture sleepe where there is no prey no flies swarme where there is no flesh no pilgrime creepe where there is no Crosse so there is no Parasite or flatterer wil lurke where he findes no gaine And in these flatterers you may obserue two great faults The first is whatsoeuer they praise say or do they do it ficte non vere fainedly not from the heart and therefore they are a dissembling vnthankful kind of people Secondly whatsoeuer they say or do they doe it not to the glorie of God or good of their neighbour but to their owne priuate ends and in this respect they are seruile And certainly these kind of people are most hurtfull wicked wherefore I could wish that all men were
and that any thing is to be gotten by leauing his olde friend he will not only leaue him but turne to his enemy and do him all the mischiefe that hee can but for his new great Master whatsoeuer he either likes or dislikes approues or disauows loues or hates he is of the same minde Againe at any publicke Assembly where many are to speake of some one matter whatsoeuer the flatterer speaketh it is to please some priuate person not for the publicke profite making sure that his great Master shal haue first spoken that he may be sure not to differ from him but that whatsoeuer he hath spoken be it good or badde may by him bee applauded and if that in any thing that he hath spoken before any thing hath slipt from him that hath not pleased he thanks his Reformer and his note is quite changed and as it were out of his great loue will extoll this man beyond measure for things that peraduenture deserue reproofe and do like him that went about to perswade Iustinian the Emperour that he should neuer die but be carried to heauen with his naturall bodie in the flesh Or like Varus Seminꝰ the great Orator who amongst many other his flattering speeches to Augustus said that they who called him Caesar knew not his greatnesse and they that called him not Caesar were ignorant of his humanity This man you shall alwaies find to be in a vniformity with al your conditions do you but sometimes alter your course in shew you shall finde him to goe as the winde doth lie and if you change into formes neuer so contrary he will change too for he hath no vniforme aequality in all his actions and intentions because he hath no permanēt seat of his manners no setled opinon in any thing because he hath wholly set himselfe ouer to content and please others no vniforme course of life because he is neuer like himselfe but variable and changeable from one forme to another But this is somewhat open and plaine flattery and therefore doth the lesse hurt because it is sooner found out and auoyded But there are other flatterers more cunning and therefore more dangerous For plaine flatterie is easily discerned as plainely to affirme or denie according as another doth the same so that any may see this fellowe plainely when perhaps he cannot discerne the other who when hee flatters seemes to reproue and when hee most flatters seemes to be most opposite against it therefore this fellow we had neede to be most carefull of and to search narrowly into all his shifts and deuices lest he deceiue vs. Of this sort was Agis Argiuus a cunning flatterer who seeing Alexander to bestow great gifts and rewards on a certaine ridiculous fellow exclaimed that it was a very absurd thing for Alexander to bestow giftes on such a fellow as this Alexander hearing his voyce demanded what he said Indeede saith hee I must needs confesse that I cannot endure to see that all yee that are descended from Iupiter should be so much delighted and taken with flatterers For as Iupiter had Vulcan for his foole and Hercules Cercopes and Bacchus tooke great delight in Syllanus euen so such as these are in account and respected by you Tacitus also recites a very good example of a flatterer in this kinde Tiberius the Emperor comming into the Senate there rose vp a certain flatterer who said it was fit that euery one should speake freely and in things belonging to the Republique no man ought to hold his peace Tiberius and all the rest expected what he should say Heare saith he Caesar a thing that we much blame in you though none dare confesse it openly you spend your selfe too much for vs wearing your bodie with daily and nightly labors in cares for the Republique neuer respecting your owne health and safety but our good and profite This kind of flatterie which comes so neere to the colour of franckenesse and libertie of speech is indeede most dangerous For who knowes not that franknesse and liberty of speech is a remedy against flattery and it that which should be remedy against it be vsed as a meanes to flatter withall it cannot bee but very dangerous and these that doe thus if they finde out any petty faults they keepe a great coile and cry out against vs for them but if wee haue neuer so many great grosse faults those they winke at Which kind of flattery as Plutarch saith may very well be compared to Hercules in a play with his great club which shewes to bee heauy and massy though indeede it be but light filled with nothing but wool or such like stuffe Euen so this kind of free speech which a flatterer vseth will bee found to bee light and of no force to giue a blow as for example if your clothes be not of the new fashion or your beard not of the new cut your band not stiffe enough your pecadill ill made your cloke not brusht or the like here they wil find great fault with you for neglecting your self that haue so handsome proportionable a body being so carelesse to set it forth But say that a man should set nought by his parents neglect his children abuse his wife despise his kinred spend wastfully and consume his goods none of all these would touch or moue him here hee is mute hath not a word to say these hee will take no knowledge of nor reproue and amongst these sort of flatterers they are most cunning who reproue men for the contrary vices to those that are in them and so still feede them in their owne as to a miser if they can by any meanes spie any sparke of spending for as the Prouerbe saith Whose feast so great as a misers presently with great feruēcy they blame him for his great spending and prodigality and for that hee hath so little care of his owne estate To a slāderer whose pleasure delight is through spite and enuy to backe-bite and wrong his neighbour if so bee that at any one time he chance to cōmend some worthy person they presently in a great seeming rage say thus vnto them This is a fault you euer haue to cōmēd persons of no worth why should you cōmend him what good haue you euer receiued by him or what good parts doe you know in him and the like againe if there be any variance betweene friends brethren or kinsfolkes they seeke not to appease or remedie it but still stir the coles saying thus It is well enough you will neuer see nor know who you are you are the cause of all your selfe selfe doe selfe haue you were alwayes so plyable and so submisse toward them that you are nowe but right serued And thus after this manner those vices that wee haue inhabitant within vs they seeke to ingraffe and settle for euer remouing There are some other flatterers as cunning in their kinde as these some will not praise a