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A26946 The judgment of non-conformists of the interest of reason in matters of religion in which it is proved against make-bates, that both conformists, and non-conformists, and all parties of true Protestants are herein really agreed, though unskilful speakers differ in words. Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. 1676 (1676) Wing B1293; ESTC R1374 14,946 24

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THE JUDGMENT OF Non-conformists OF THE INTEREST OF REASON IN MATTERS OF RELIGION IN WHICH It is proved against Make-bates that both Conformists and Non-conformists and all Parties of true Protestants are herein really agreed though unskilful Speakers differ in Words LONDON Printed in the Year 1676. AMong the other Church-troubling Controversies of these times we find it is one and not the least How far Mans Reason hath to do in matters of Religion And deep accusations we find brought against each other on this account some suspecting others of Socinianisme as over-magnifying Reason and others insimulating such as they seem to differ from as guilty of making Religion seem unreasonable and some who go over the Hedge where it is low do lay this charge of unreasonableness in special on the Non-conformists We who do verily believe that this scandalous Contention ariseth from Mens unskilfulness in the Art of framing and expressing the notions of that same matter which they commonly hold and that really not only Conformists and Non-conformists but also all Protestant Parties are herein of one mind though some think otherwise who neither understand their Brethren nor are understood themselves do therefore take it as Peacemakers to be our duty to give our Reasons of this our Judgement that if it may be the Preachers of Truth and Peace may not tempt the People into unchristian disaffection by perswading them that we so widely differ when really we are all or generally agreed Qu. Whether understanding Charity can see any real difference between Conformists and Non-conformists or any other Partiss of true Protestants about the interest and use of Reason in Religion that is about Gods Doctrine of Faith and his Laws for Mens Desires and their Practice Neg. For the due handling of this it is requisite that we first explain our words and then truly state the Question and then prove the Negative and lastly add some applicatory Consectaries I. By understanding Charity we mean a Person indued with Understanding and Charity so far as he useth them in this Judgement By a Real difference we mean not real misunderstanding of one another or real contending about words but a difference in Judgement about the very matter of Doctrine it self when intelligibly opened and each Party is understood By Religion we mean only that which is truly Divine and not about what Man may superadd though on the by we may speak somewhat of that and as the Church hath ever summed it up in the Sacramental Covenant and explained the parts of it according to the three summaries the Creed Lords Prayer and Christian Decalogue so do we here mean 1. The Articles of Faith 2. The matter of Holy Love or Desire 3. And of Practice By Conformists and Non-conformists we mean qua tales whether this be any part of the Controversies which denominate them And ex abundante even Qui tales whether they that are Meerly Non-conformists differ from the Conformists herein the question not extending to Quakers Seekers Papists Antinomians or any such Sect which are more than Meer Non-conformists By Protestants we mean those that make Christianity as delivered in the Scriptures their Religion protesting against the Corruptions and Additions of Popery who are now commonly known by that Name and distinguished unhappily by their By-opinions into Lutherans Calvinists and other Names 1. We deny not that all Protestants differ greatly from the Socinians who reject the Doctrine of the Trinity though found in Scripture because they think that it is against Reason though in that they err 2. We deny not that Protestants herein differ from Enthusiasts or true Fanaticks who pretend Revelations which Reason cannot prove to be what they pretend them to be and are contrary to true Reason and Scripture it self and who think that the secret impulses of their diseased Phantasies and Passions are such motions of Gods Spirit as Reason must give place to 3. We deny not but Protestants differ from the great Fanaticisme of Popery which both buildeth Faith and exerciseth Religion upon the most stupendious Fiction of Miracles against Reason and Common sense that ever to our knowledge was entertained by any Sect or Heresie in the World viz. 1. In their holding that a Pope and his Council called General are the Infallible Judges of the Churches Faith from whose Authority it must be received though the Pope should be himself an ignorant Lad or a Heretick and most of the Bishops in Council should not before understand the matter which they vote for As if God by Miracles taught the ignorant and erroneous to vote contrary to their former Opinions or above their understanding and their miraculous Enthusiasm and Infallibility were the Foundation of the Common Faith As if God would enable a Pope and Council that understood not Greek or Hebrew Infallibly to Translate the Bible out of Greek and Hebrew into their Native Tongues 2. And they pretend that all the Priests in their Church perhaps many score thousands can work Miracles at their pleasure and do so in every Mass which they Celebrate even to the making Bread to be no Bread and Wine to be no Wine nor any sensible Substance and all the Sences of the World that see tast touch them to be utterly deceived which is farr greater Miracle-working than ever Christ or his Apostles wrought And to the Belief of this and this renunciation of all common Sense all Christians on pain of damnation must submit and Princes must exterminate those that will not or else their Dominions must be given to another by the Pope We say not that Protestants do either exalt Reason as the Socinians or renounce it as either of these two Sects of true Fanaticks By Judging we mean 1. Discerning our selves 2. Proving to others By Reason We mean I Ex parte objecti such evidence of Truth which humane Reason may discern This is three-fold I. Evidence of the Thing it self which is either 1. Sensible Evidence as the very thing is objected to the Senses and so as Sensate represented to the Intellect 2. Evidence immediately intelligible by which the thing it self is objected to the Intuition of the Mind so some say with Ockam that the Intellect knoweth its own Acts and Spirits see Spirits II. Evidence of the Medium from whence by Reason we may inferr the Verity of the Thing And this is 1. Of an ordinary Natural Medium as a Natural Cause is known by the Effects and the Effects by the Cause e. g. There is a Sun ergo there is Motion Light and Heat or There is Motion Light and Heat ergo there is Fire 2. Or of a Supernatural Medium such as is Divine Revelation by Vision Inspiration miraculous Attestation III. There is Evidence of Consequence that the Conclusion certainly followeth the Premises Of Reason in these Senses we may have occasion to speak II. Ex parte subjecti vel Agentis And so Reason is taken 1. For the reasoning Faculty 2. For the mental