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A89827 An answer to the booke called The perfect Pharisee under monkish holinesse: wherein is layd open, who they are that oppose the fundamentall principles of the doctrine of the Gospel, and the scripture practises, which the authors of that book would cast upon those they call Quakers, but are found to be themselves; who appear to be no ministers of the Gospel, but walke contrary to all that ever Christ sent forth in the scripture, scorning them who live the life of the scriptures, or are brought into the obedience of the same spirit. Published for no other end but to cleare the truth from the slanders of these men, who thereby goe about to deceive the simple, and keep them off from obedience to the truth. By one whom the world calls, James Nayler. Naylor, James, 1617?-1660. 1654 (1654) Wing N261; Thomason E735_2; ESTC R206955 29,772 36

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inventions and braine study and come amongst people and say Heare the Word of the Lord when the Lord had not spoken to them but the salse Prophets did so and saith the Lord I am against them that steale my Word from their Neighbours and say The Lord saith when I have not spoken to them and ye doing the same things are discovered by the same spirit And whereas yee pleade against our using the Scripture phrase in thouing eve●y particular we speake to and pleading against us the customes of the Nation here yee shew your selves to be guided by a contrary spirit to Christ who leades his out of all the customes of the world and the Nations and thereby they are knowne not to be of the world and yee who are Ministers of the Letter and dispute against the language of it which none of Gods ever denyed or disputed against out of your enmity to the truth yee pleade against what yee professe and are ministers of and all this ye doe to maintain the confused language which all they who are redeemed out of the fall are restored to a pure Language Now as touching your consideration of our practises and first concerning Quaking and trembling to which yee adde grovelling upon the ground and foaming at the mouth which are lyes and slanders of your owne inventing but for quaking and trembling we owne it as that which the Lord hath said shall come upon all flesh and which the Saints have witnessed through the Scripture and if we should deny them we should deny the holy men of God as Moses Isaac David Habakkuk Daniel Ezekiel Ieremiah Paul and many other of the deare servants of God and shew our selves to be strangers to that condition by which they came to know the Lord as yee doe who revile and reproach it And whereas you tell of three sorts of trembling in the Scripture but know them not within your selves ye are not to be regarded nor what ye speake by heare-say who are scorners of their conditions which ye reade in Scripture neither doe ye know from what they proceed but judge of them in your owne imagination and in this as in other things contend against what is witnessed in Scripture 〈◊〉 up all the lyes slanders and weakenesse of any to cast 〈◊〉 the truth and the Saints condition And whereas ye say 〈◊〉 call these quakings our great perfection that is false and a lying slander like the rest our perfection stands not in any outward things but in the good and perfect gift which we receive in Jesus Christ Now of our second practice which ye call Rayling I answer If they speake of ye the things that are true and in which you live will ye call the truth Rayling though it come in an unwelcome language to the disobedient natures Was it rayling in Christ to call them The children of the Devill who brought forth the workes of the Devill or to call them Serpents and Vipers who sought by their subtilty to devoure the simple Or to call Herod a Fox who was a King or for the Apostles and Saints to call them Dogs and Swine who loved their sins and filthynesse and could not be kept from returning into it againe For they who did stand in the light of the spirit of God did discover the contrary spirit which did act severall wayes in the men of the world and some they saw to be Doggs some Wolves some bryars and thornes some high-Mountains some fat Bulls which did compasse the innocent about to devoure them some Witches who bewitched the Saints from the guiding of the spirit to carnall things Now will you call these Raylers because they speak the truth upon the severall actings of the spirit of the Devill where it was But they were the servants of the Lord and were meeke and gentle and patient towards all men even so these servants of the Lord now 〈◊〉 they speake the truth as things are found in ye revealed unto them by the same spirit are no raylers but are meeke gentle and patient notwithstanding they must doe the Message of the Lord faithfully Now to the third practice They pretending upon all occasions to be sent by Commission from God as 〈◊〉 shall instance in some cases following 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 I answer the Messages that God have 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 his servants on have been strange to the world neit●●● could the world who knew not the voyce of the Lord ever ●w●● them but have been counted mad men mad fellows fooles ●●●●●● with new Wine and such like Yet I shall not here justifie every one who saith he is sent of the Lord for many lying spirits are gone out into the world but woe unto him that runneth and is not sent and belyeth the Lord when he hath not spoken unto him but as for your particuler charge● again●● particular persons I shall say little as not knowing the things in particuler but finding your Booke stust with lyes and untruths gives me cause to beleeve that many of these are like the rest Onely this is plaine Scripture That the Messages of the Lord which he sends his people on are foolishnes to the wisedom of the world and so they are to ye and though ye would appoint them their place and manner and time yet it is neither in your wills nor theirs but in the will of God which if any out of feare or favour doe not obey they shall suffer for it And whereas ye declare of comming of some of us to Newcastle this I witnesse to be true as in the pr●sence of God E. B. that our Call was from God and our Commission was from him and therefore did suffer persecution by you and by the Magistrates but as for our declaring our Message before the Magistrates my Brother and Sister were interrupted by some of you in their declaring But that they who were before the Magistrates were invited to go to any of your houses to speak is false and here W. C. is a false witnesse And whereas ye accuse us For casting off the Word of God I answer It is false for the Word of God we owne and obey for which we are scorned and suffers reproach by ye For your accusing George Fox for cursing Master Fetherston as ye call him I my selfe was in presence when Fetherston confessed that the words which George Fox spoke was Scripture And for your slander ye cast upon Christopher Atkinson and a Woman for their familiarity and to make a ground for your slander ye say to say no more but why to say no more if ye know more why doe you not speake the truth but slander in secret And here you false accuser thou and thy witnesse shall both be taken alive and cast into the Pit who hath deceived the people by thy false lyes and slanders thou charges me with my immodest familiarity with a Woman of C. A. my way and to colour thy deceit thou sayst to say no more thou false