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A46371 The reflections of the reverend and learned Monsieur Jurieu, upon the strange and miraculous exstasies of Isabel Vincent, the shepardess of Saov in Dauphiné who ever since February last hath sung psalms, prayed, preached, and prophesied about the present times in her trances : as also upon the wonderful and portentous trumpetings and singing of psalms that were heard by thousands in the air, in many parts of France, in the year 1686 : taken out of the pastoral letters of the 1st and 15th day of October last : to which is added, A letter of a gentleman in Dauphiné, to a friend of His in Geneva, containing the discourses and prophesies of the shepherdess / all faithfully translated out of the French copies ... Jurieu, Pierre, 1637-1713. 1689 (1689) Wing J1212; ESTC R14047 30,643 66

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a great Persecution but it will not last He will yet have Mercy upon such as have turned but not upon such as have taken Pensions Observe that before she went to her Bed she desired that certain Children that were unknown to her might be put out of the Room And it was believed that it was that that gave the Spirit occasion to say That such should go out that were not capable to understand the Word A sincere and true Relation of what was spoken by the Mouth of ISABEL VINCENT as she Slept on the 20th of May at Night in the Year 1688. AFter she had Sung the 42d Psalm Ainsi quon oit le cerf braire or As the Hart panteth c unto the next pause with a clear and Audible Voice without missing one Musical Note she then made a little stop and then spoke of the necessity of hiding the Word of God saying that it ought not to be spoken to such as could not understand it nay that they ought to be bid go out of the Room Then she presently fell upon the Persecutions and Wrongs that had been done to the Faithful and said that it was Sin that was the cause of them and that we ought to avoid the occasions of Sin saying if you knew the uglyness of Sin you would be much more afraid of committing it than you are And notwithstanding the Evils inflicted upon you you ought always to say I will praise the Lord for God chasteneth whom he loveth but God will tame all the Wild Beasts that persecute you She said also That we ought to prepare our selves for the Table of the Lord saying Let us go and tast of his Paschal Lamb Take eat this Body that hath been Crucified for you and do not believe that Jesus Christ is there in Body and Soul for he is in Heaven It is by Faith that we are to penetrate into this Mystery He should have a good many Bodies to be given to so many People at once And continuing upon the Subject of the Persecutions made upon the Faithful she Exhorted them to hold fast and to Repent and when God shall come he will say to the Faithful Come c. And continuing to speak of the Assurance we have in his Promises she said The Heavens and the Earth shall pass away but the Word of God shall continue The Wicked shall be mowed down like the Grass that is mowed wherefore Christians hold fast and let your Faith be always founded in Jesus Christ who hath shed his Blood for our Sins For he that shall persevere to the end shall receive Eternal Life We must suffer for his Word for he saith He that will love me must bear my Cross It is upon Jesus Christ that we must bestow our Love It is he that hath said He that shall love another more than me is not worthy of me The Angels and the Saints groan when they see you in Persecutions But Christians have a good Courage and repent you of your Sins search his Word and you will find it by Repentance obey the Commandments of God and not those of Men For he that will follow the Commandments of Men shall dye the death Be ye assured Christians that if he loved not his People he would not Chastize them The People of Israel was always persecuted but he that shall persevere to the end shall obtain Eternal life Here was a Silence of about half an Hour and then she resuming her Discourse said Be not ye surprized my Brethren if you have selt the Anger of God for we have trampled upon his Word and put it under our Feet but Repent and Seek God and he will be in the midst of you The Wicked shall perish They shall have Courage enough to harm you now but they will have no power at the Hour of Death Have pity upon us O God! We are poor scattered Sheep thou hall gathered us according to thy good pleasure have pity upon us Heve she stopped for the space of about two hours and after that she sung about two or three Verses of the Commandments of God in Rhime and continuing the Threatnings against the Wicked that persecute the Faithful she said their Efforts and Malice was like the Stones flung against Trees and like Feathers cast against the Wind. The Wicked shall perish with their Wickednesses and shall be mowed down like the Grass of the Fields which is withered And therefore Christians let us refer our selves to God and then God will refer himself to us for his Mercy is not yet exhausted O Lord marvellous are thy Works the Wicked shall make a loud enough Cry but God will no more hear them he will exterminate them under his hand But as for the Good he will say to them Come ye Blessed of my Father possess ye my Inheritance the Kingdom that was prepared for you before the Foundation of the World. Let us go then to search the Word of God and we shall find it and persevere ye unto the End and ye shall obtain Eternal Life For when we search his Word we search God himself It is Earthly Goods that have occasioned our Purgatory and our Destruction but let us not rely thereon any more and cease not to bewail your Sins Look you there are but two ways in all that of Hell and that of Paradice The former of these is a large and spacious way by which the Wicked go in great Numbers but the Way of Paradice is strait they that are laden with Sins cannot pass by it because it is uneven and crooked They must pass by Persecutions to come thither But to you Faithful Ones he will one day say Come ye Blessed of my Father As to the Wicked he will say to them Go to the Eternal Fire which is prepared for the Devil and his Angels The Wicked have persecuted you but O Faithful Soul thou oughtest to be assured of this That thô thou diest thou shalt yet live Repent you and Sin no more for a day will come when you must appear before God. We ought then to fear offending of him and not to follow the course of the Ungodly for they shall perish Let us search his Word and hide it in our Hearts and God by his Grace will make his Glory shine upon us And hereby the Wicked shall be disabled from hurting us their Arrows shall be broken Let the Word of God be your Fortress and then God will bless you and preserve you from all the Evils that they can do you He is always the same God his Arm is not shortned he has always the same Power You may assure your selves that if the Wicked had the same power over God that they have over you they would do the very same to him But God will pronounce the Sentence of Malediction upon them and will say unto the Wicked Go thou into Eternal Fire prepared for the Devil and his Angels for thou hast persecuted my Children and me The Wicked cry to God continually but God doth not hear them because they have no Repentance But thou O Faithful Soul bless the Eternal God and say unto him As long as I shall have a being I will sing a Psalm unto thee As for thee O Wicked Man thou Agatha Is it not known what she doth there Paulina The last thing I could learn of Her is That she constantly Sings Psalms during her Exstasies and that a certain Counseller of Gren●ble chanced 〈◊〉 to say That she did it very harmoniously Agatha Tou do not question then but that what they Write of this Poor Girl is really True Paulina No for I have spoken with Persons of great Honour that have passed the whole Night in her Chamber and that have themselves heard what hath been told me of Her there are above Two hundred Witnesses who can Attest the same thing It was first known upon February last That a young Girl of a Place called Saou n●●r Crêt about Fourteen years of Age had certain Transports by Night time which seemed much to resemble Exstasies She was heard all on a sudden to Sing Psalms and that in a due and Regular manner This Voice both A●●righted and Rejoyced those that heard it For as she had been very much neglected in her Education and therefore could neither Write nor Read so they were very much affrighted at this Accident But they were much more so when she made a Prayer in French a Language she had never learned in hor life and then took a Text of Scripture and handled it and spoke very many excellent things upon it Her principal Exhortation is to break off all Commerce with Popery She threatens Gods severest Judgments against such as will not do it She blames her Father much more than other Men for having sold himself for Money and Revolted without any compulsion After this she treats of Controversie upon which Subject we are assured that she says many close and convincing things and that she Cites Passages very pertinently out of Scripture Agatha I have heard something muttered about of a certain Able and Learned Physician that should make her a Visit to inform himself at the first hand of what he had understood but confusedly before Paulina You have been rightly informed in that particular For that Physician went to the place and both saw and heard the surprizing Effects of the Exstasie of this Shepherdess She Sung Preached and Encountred the Sentiment of Rome after her usual manner She Expounded those Words of the Third Chapter of St. Matthew The Ax is laid to the Root of the Tree c. upon which she spoke excellent good things with relation to the Times in which we now live The Physician that heard her Talk felt her Pulse to inform himself what Effect this Effort of hers might produce in her Body but he found it very uniform and regular and such as is usual in persons of good Health and that Sleep quietly He observed her again the next Morning and found that she had been awake all that Day and that she had resumed the ordinary Care of her Flock THE END
one word They also add the History of the Country man of Burgundy who in his Sleep heard a certain Verse repeated out of Homer which he remembred very well though he could not understand it This Country-man applyed himself to a Learned man whose Name is still alive and will for ever live in the Commonwealth of Learning He told him his Dream or rather his Vision together with the Words which he still remembred This Learned man found that it was a Verse out of Homer which foretold him that his House should fall in a little time which did not fail to happen accordingly Behold say they a thing no less Miraculous than your Shepherdess We are not bound to grant That these two Facts were as Miraculous as that whereof we Treat But the Examining of this is not necessary It is sufficient to maintain to these Gentlemen that these two Facts did nor happen by Natural Causes Whether indeed it was the Holy Ghost or the Wicked Spirit that possessed them that is the only Question But it can be no Doubt to any Reasonable Mind whether the Machin alone either did or was able to do this thing And it is still much more certain that our Miracle could not be performe by the Machin for it is much more Miraculous to Talk whole Nights to speak what one never knew and to speak things Divine and Heavenly too and that in very good order and sense than to hear something one time in a Dream or to pronounce certain Words formed as by anothers Tongue The Wicked Spirit might produce this but it could never inspire into a single Soul the wonderful things of God. In the mean time It is certain that the Fact related by Monsieur la Motte le Vager and such others like it are not done by Natural Causes But say they how know you how far the Powers of Nature may go Wretched Objection We know it by Experience we know it by the use of Reason It is true that Nature doth an hundred things Mechanically whereof we can give no Reason But it does them always and always alike If it varies sometimes it is no surprizing thing if while we know not the Causes we are ignorant of the Principle of these Variations When Extraordinary Accidents consist but in Corporeal Motions one may then with less Injustice refer their Causes to the Machin At least it will be more difficult to persuade the Incredulous in this Case than in others although many times they have no more Truth and Reason on their sides here than elsewhere But to Reason and Discourse Divinely without having learnt any thing at all and without having so much as the Images of what one says impressed upon the Machin of the Brain This I say is entirely beyond the Powers and Action of the Machin Moreover this wicked Solution of theirs may be justly lookt upon as an open way to the most Criminal of all Incredulities For we may then with the same Freedom say of the Miracles of Jesus Christ and of his Apostles that we cannot determine whether they are true Miracles or no for that one does not know how far the Operations of Nature may go This may suffice for an Answer to the Esprit sorts or Strong Heads as they call them We will answer the Objections of others in our next Oct. 1. 1688. A Continuation of the REFLECTIONS Upon the MIRACLE OF DAUPHINE WITH An Examination of the Question Whether the Time of Miracles be absolutely ceased IN Our former Letter we have fully answered what hath been advanced by those called Strong Heads to encounter with the Verity of the Fact hapned in Dauphiné in the Person of a Shepherdess It is now time to take Notice of Persons that have much more Wit and which we can by no means suspect of the least thought tending to Infidelity but yet cannot without good Reasons do otherwise than call in question the Accident here treated of Let us now hear what they have to say They say in the first place That we are not now in the Age of Miracles that being long since past This Maxim of theirs to which the Controversies of these latter Ages have given so much Authority among us ought to be understood in a sound Sense We are not it is very true in the Age of Miracles at present That is to say we have not any longer such Men among us as God has bestowed the Gift of Tongues or of Healing upon and such as can ordinarily and whenever they please put the Omnipotence of God into act This we must own to be true And for this Reason it is that when we see a poor sorry Fryar running all Europe over to Heal the Sick to give Hearing to the Deaf and to restore Sight to the Blind and pretending to Bless the Christian Armies as if the Success of their Arms depended upon his Blessings we dare boldly then pronounce that such an one is a Knave and an Impostor When they tell us of Miraculous Cures that have been done by the Image of our Lady and by the Reliques of such a Saint we may then without Hesitation aver That these are but Tricks and Illusions And the Reason is very clear For that God in the Ages of true and indubitable Miracles never made use of such Ways as these in order to work Miracles Did the Prophets and Apostles ever make use of the Images of their Predecessors Did they ever Consecrate their Bones or their Ashes Did they ever make use of them to work Prodigies or Extraordinary things One single Resurrection caused by a Dead mans touching the Ashes of Eliseus can be no sufficient ground for these Vain and Idolatrous Superstitions For this is but one single Instance and one that had no Consequence founded upon neither But I will assure you my Brethren that the best way to unburthen our selves of the Load of Popish Miracles is not always that which our People ordinarily fly to which is utterly to deny the Matters of Fact and always to say This is False this is a Lye or This is a Cheat of some Priest or Monk. This Accusation is indeed often very just For it is certain that the greatest part of the Miracles of Popery are but Fables and Impostures But yet for all this we must not deny that among these False Miracles there are many Matters of Fact that are true The Writers of the Port Royal were extremely in the right when they said There would-never have been any False Miracles if there had been none True. For Fictions and Cheats are but Imitations of the Truth What hath been said by these Gentlemen of Miracles in general that I say with much confidence of the Miracles of Popery That had Images and Reliques never done any true Prodigies or Extraordinary thing at all the Imposture could never have been supported so long All these Cheats of Monks and all the Tales of Legends have been contrived and imitated upon the