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A90963	Clerico-classicum, or, The clergi-allarum to a third war. Being an answer to a pamphlet, intituled, A serious and faithfull representation of the judgements of ministers of the Gospel within the province of London, contained in a letter from them to the Generall and his Councell of Warre. Delivered to his Excellency by some of the subscribers, Jan. 18. 1648. Which may likewise serve for a brief answer to their late vindication, relating to their former actings, touching the capitall punishment of the person of the King. / By John Price, citizen of London.	Price, John, Citizen of London.	1649 (1649)	Wing P3340; Thomason E544_1; ESTC R204338	47,303	74

the ●ing Pu● them in minde to be subject to Principalities and powers Let every soule be subject to the higher powers c. Yet we heard not of these things from you when the mutinous Apprenti●es and others offered violence upon the Houses formerly spoken of no noise then of such Scriptures no putting m●n in minde to subject to Principalities and powers no such word as let every soule be subject to the higher powers c. As if these Scriptures were ad●led since that time Can you presume that men are so blind dull and 〈◊〉 as not to observe such partiall and crafty handling of the Scripturer word and will of God doe not these practises of yours● s●ttle and establish atheisme irrel●gion and profanen●sse among men making them to looke upon Religion the Gospell the Word of God a● upon a meere pee●e of jugling cheating and deceiving the World and should we take your counsell which you give us from the words of Solomon ●●ddle not with them that are given to change we should all turne S●paratists from you and your wayes who have beene as full of changes at the Vanes of your Steeples one while stirring up the people against the King and for the Parliament writing Books answering objections and using all manner of endeavours that way that so the Bishops may be dethroned and you advanced witnesse many of your Sermons preached before the Houses and else-where another while stirring up the people against the Parliament and for the King left the Independents should hinder your advance as you did of late in your Prayers and Preaching expressing greater malignity against the Parliament and their party and greater 〈◊〉 for the King and his interest then those very Ministers whose very places you possese they being sequestred and cast out for the tenths of that Anti-parliamentary malignancy which you have vented and indeed this is according to the example of your Fathers before you for it was generally observed of the Clergy of olde that in Henry the eighth ● time they were first for the Popes supremacy and then with the King for the Kings With Edward the sixth they were Protestants with Queene Mary Papists againe With Queen Elizabeth they faced about and of 9400. promotions not too of them stood firm Nay does not our owne age give sufficient testimony of the Clergies changes nay are not many of your selves living instances thereof have not you been for Bishops and against Bishops for Common-prayer for Geremonies and against them Have you not sworne and subscribed and subscribed and sworn over and over againe and againe conformity and subjection hereunto and yet cast away all and entered into Vowes and Covenants against all Can Dr. Burges Master Cauton and severall others of you deny this and yet now advise us not to meddle with them that are given to change You say page 5. It was deemed a horrible violation of the Priviledges of Parliaments in the King to come to seize upon the five Members in the beginning of this Parliament And you quote the opinion of the House for that purpose in their Order of the 3d of January 1641. What violation of their priviledges then must this needs be so and so aggravated to seize upon many c. I may answer you by telling you that you never 〈◊〉 that Order of the House in aggravating of the Appren●ion ●orcing of the House the last yeare and to give you any other ●nswer were but to beate the aire for 〈◊〉 are like to heare no reply to it having the art of neglecting all that hath been ●poken by way of satisfaction from the Army to this purpos●●nd insisting still upon matter of fact as if 〈◊〉 thereof ●ad been given in justification You tell us that both Houses of Parliament are joyntly cons●●ed with the King intrusted with the supreame Authority of the ●ingdome Page 6. I desire to know what you meane by the King his ●●●son or his Authority If his Person then have we been 〈◊〉 and you the cause of it stirring us up hereunto If you 〈…〉 Authority then let your Readers revise your Letter 〈◊〉 and they will see you say nothing but according 〈◊〉 your custome blinde the people which is not like that 〈…〉 and candor becomming Ministers of the Gospell of Jesus ●hrist But the maine thing you insist upon is the businesse of the Protestation Vow and Covenant and the Solemn League Covenant by these sacred gin● as you use them you presume 〈◊〉 the Scots Commissioners heretofore to catch us all 〈◊〉 ●our net doing little service thereby except to draw men into dishonorable thoughts of them and as you doe in 〈…〉 ●our Function of it selfe honourable and of God yet you ●ake it contemptible and vile even so in reference to these of themselves just and good you and chiefly you render them as an Almanack out of date for what doe you make especially of the Covenant but as some doe of the Scriptures a nose of wax making it to serve all their opinions to maintain all interests for doe not all men know that you were the men pressing people to oppose with-stand and fight against the King and that upon penalty of breaking the COVENANT of God the COVENANT of peace conjuring men as they would answer it before the Lord as they would not be counted COVENANT breakers Truce-breakers false to the COVENANT of their God c. to goe out to fight against the Lords Enemies to fight the Lords battles c. And now againe doe not you make the Covenant to serve the Malignants interest and the late Kings interest by pressing that article of the Covenant of preserving the Kings person honour and dignity c. and that with the same straines of sanctimony viz. by calling it the Oath of God the Covenant of God making Malignants jeere and laugh at you and those that did first hate the Covenant and some that never yet 〈◊〉 the Covenant to plead and argue our Covenant-breaking c. Did not some of you demand I● this preserving the person of the King by cutting off his head Mr. Yenkin Mr. Love Mr. Case Mr. Canton c. by murthering him by 〈◊〉 the Land with the blood of their Soveraigne c. And did not the King heretofore and Malignants with the like reason demand of you is this to preserve the person of the King to fight against him even in pitch'd Battles in this to maintaine his 〈◊〉 and dignity to charge him with all the blood that hath been 〈◊〉 c. But more particularly touching the Protestation May 5. 1641. the Vow and Covenant made afterwards and the solemn League and Covenant made after that From these mountaine● you strive though with very much devotion as Bala●● once did to curse the Army and Parliament when loe your cursings prove so only to their Authors and like the Conjurers in the Acts of the Apostles when the name of Jesus whom Paul preached was used as a piece

and faithfull in the prosecution of your judgemen● i● general touching your own interest power and preferment we have reason enough to believe but how shall wee know when you are serious and faithfull in the REPRESENTATION of your judgement in any particular for we shall anon minde you of a represen●ation of your judgements and that by your s●lves as far differing from this as light i● from darknesse and yea from nay and we had as much and more ●eason to believe your seriousnesse and faithfulnesse in that representation of your judgements then in this the right eye whereof 〈…〉 darkened and the right hand so withered that there is ●arc● the least glimmering or motion of light or arguments ●or your judgement represented in all your letter and did not a ●resumptuous opinion swell in your mindes that your very ●●mes titles and presumed vocation viz. Ministers of the ●ospell Embassadours of Jesus Christ would challenge a ●uddaine entertainement of what ever you represent asking no question for conscience sake and that the rhetoricke of the bramble should silence the Vine and all the tree● of the Forrest you know our meaning you would never presen● the world with such a vaine poore ba●ron empty nothing for satisfaction in so great and weighty a cause as this which you c●ll A serious and faithfull representation of the judgements of Ministers of the Gospell within c. Your Letter stands though faintly upon four feet 1. The occasions of your writing it 2. The mattere criminall contained therein charged upon the Generall and Councel of Warre 3. The grounds and reasons of your charge proving the same 4. Your Ministerial advice and councel thereupon That they are all so feeble as not able to beare up your presumed authority thereof in the judgments of rational and ●●partial Readers wil quickly appear for First for the occasions of it which were First The severall applications as well by writing as verb●●ll messages inviting the Ministers of London or some of them 〈◊〉 meete with the Officers of the Army in their consultations 〈◊〉 matters of Religion page 1. 2. The refusall of these Ministers of Jesus Christ so invited 3. The reasons of this refusall From the first of these may wee not behold as on the one hand the Christian candor ingenuity and condiscention of the General and Councel of Warre forgetting the many false notorious and publique slanders of these men cast upon them from their pens and Pulpits from day to day endeavouring if it were possible to defile and be-spatter that garment of honour which God put upon them that they should apply themselves nay make several applications of themselves unto them send to them and write to them c. So on the other hand the domineering Lordly and Prelatical pride of these un-Christ-like Ministers of Jesus Christ that would not vouchsafe such a condiscention as to give them a meeting surely that Papal unction which was by the spirit from beneath powred forth upon the heads of the Popes of old time pussing up their minds to that measure of pride arrogancy and supercilliousnesse as Kings and Princes with their Wives and Children must gladly even with their hare feet attend their Holinesses pleasure day after day before their admission hath plentifully extended to the skirts of their cloathing these servi servorum dei these Ministers of the Gospel these zealous and hot disput●●● against the errours heresies and blasphemies of the Army cannot be prevailed withall by severall applications by writing by verball messages to advise counsell and direct them in matters of the greatest concernment to the whole Nation to prevent the subject-matter of their daily Pulpit-invectives against them from the power of tyranny and the pride of the Clargy 〈◊〉 nos Domine they can lift up their voyces like a Trumpet In most scandalon● accusations slanderous defa●●ations and bitter invectives allarming people against them but cannot he prevailed withall no not by severall applications of severall kinds to advise and consult to direct or instruct in the greatest matters concerning the good or evill saving or loosing the whole Nation is this while you have opportunity to doe good to all and is this is vindication of your Ministeriall function wherein you so often glory We Ministers of the Gospel within the Province of London hold it our duty as then to refuse any such meeting as was proposed so now to give your Lordship and Councell the reasons of that refusail lest by our silence we should seeme to be wanting in that ingenuity and candor which becomes all but especially the Ministers of Jesus Christ c. Wee Ministers of Jesus Christ within the Province of London what are the signes and tokens proving the same your ingenuity and candor which becomes the Ministers of Jesus Christ excellent a testimony whereof you give by all your carriages as to all men that observe your foot-steps so especially First To the Army calling them in your Pulpits a rebellious Army a generation of vipers a viprou● brood an oppressing Army an Army of Hereticks a Schismaticall Army an Army whose lives are not worth a prayer and whose deaths are not worth a teare an Army though conque●ing yet they were not fit nor worthy to conquer that wee had been better without those great victories then to have them by such hands Admirable ingenuity unparallel'd candor such ingenuity and candor appearing in Mr. Canton Mr. Cranford Mr. Case Mr. Love Mr. Jenkins Mr. Tailor and some others which did never appear in Peter James or John yea nor even in Jesus Christ himselfe Secondly Your ingenuity and candor further appeares by your submissive and Christian respects to authority especially the Parliament and as at all times so chiefly when they contend not though with the ruine of all for your greatnesse and interest then your Ministerial ingenuity and candor doe appear in all their glory calling them while they delay your work an apostatizing Parliament a Covenant-breaking Parliament a Parliament at whose doors may be laid all the errors heresies and blasphemies of the times a Parliament that hath wrought a great Reformation amongst us in Church State taking away High-commission Court Star-chamber Councel Table c. and bringing in the room thereof several Committees whose little fingers in way of oppression were heavier then the loins of the former Courts a Parliament suppressing Popery Ceremonies Crucifixes Crosses Service-book c. and in the roome thereof giving liberty of Conscience otherwise called a cursed tolleration of errours heresies blasphemies and all manner of licentiousnesse a Parliament that hath taken away Ship-money coat and conduct-money monopolies c. and in the roome thereof bringing in taxes assesments free-quarters and the heavy burthen and bondage of Excize which neither wee nor our Fathers were ever able to beare Is not this excellent Provinciall ingenuity and candor which further dazles mens eyes and therefore In the third place for the same of your ingenuity and

of Jesus Christ and his truth and Gosp●ll be it Presbytery or whatsoever else then your selves have been and you may thus contend all your dayes but you will never thrive and prosper in the settlement of Religion and Reformation untill a more meeke quiet forbearing spirit be more predominant in you then as yet doth appear which if it once be made manifest in you your parts gifts and abilities would be serviceable unto God and your faces would shine in the sight of honest men Having repeated the Protestation Vow and Covenant and Solemn League and Covenant as if your very calling men Covenant-breakers had sufficiently proved them so you presently flye into the faces of the Army with all those Scriptures that make mention of Gods displeasure against Covenant-breaking and that without once giving any argument proving that they are Couenant-breakers but what have been answered over and over again and again though you have gotten the art not to take notice thereof then you tell them page 8. of your serious and faithfull representation with what a jealous eye and severe hand the Lord avenged the quarrell of 〈◊〉 Covenant made by Zedekiah King of Babylon then wee heare of God● avenging the quarrell of his Covenant of despising 〈◊〉 Oath by breaking his Covenant of lifting up the hand to the high God of the despising Dominions and speaking evill of Dignities of Gods judgements against Corah Dathan and Ab●ram for their mutinous rebellion and levelling design against Magistr●●y and Ministery in the persons of Moses and Aaron 〈◊〉 But may not others upon better grounds summon up all those Scriptures that speake of the miscarriages of false Prophet● that prophecie lies in the name of the Lord that pretend to a vision from God which hee did never shew and to 〈◊〉 messages which he did never send c. and dash them all into your faces then you can those Scriptures that speak● of Covenant-breaking despising Magistracy and Ministery into the faces of the Army you tell them of Gods judgments against Saul for violating the Covenant which was made with the Gibe●nites but may not that as well be re●orted upon you for violating the Covenant which you made with the Parliament not to make defection to the contrary party to assist the Forces raised and continued by authority of Parliament to bring Delinquents to condign punishment c. which is a positive not conditionall Article of the Covenant as that 〈◊〉 the preservation of the person of the King was yea one of the great ends of the whole warre and when the Lord Generall and Councell of Waried ●once yeeld unto Articles of quarter for life upon very weighty grounds and reasons so voted by the Parliament themselves to some capitall Malig●ant at the rend●tion of Oxford what a clamour and noise was heard against them though we hear as great an exclamation for their contrary proceedings at this time Againe Did the Covenant made with th● Gibeonites give them a dispensation to doe what they could against the Israelites and they must not so much as be questioned for it by vertue of a Covenant made before If not your instance is nothing for no such Covenant was made with the King that doe he what he would or could to ruine and destroy religion and liberty and all godly men that yet we bound our selves to preserve his Person and you know that when wee entered into this Covenant it was p●esumed that not the King but his evill councell was the cause of our Warres and miseri●● though since wee have found that not his councell but himselfe was the chiefe cause thereof and your own consciences do tell you so or else you have wrong'd him Page 9. of your Letter you tell them while they kept Covenant they had your hearts your helpe and your prayers that they have broken their Covenant is your slanderous aspersion and how your hearts your help and your prayers have been towards them is all mens observation that the very scope and drift of many of your prayers and preaching especially the last Summer and about 18. months since was to rend and teare the Army to pieces and like B●la●m's prayers for the hosts of Israel though blessed be God with the like successe may be proved by many heaps of witnesses and yet the Armies successe in all their proceedings must still be appropriated to your prayers that were bent against them though indeed in some sence it cannot be denyed for it is usu● I with God to turne mens curses against his people into blessing● upon their head Having sufficiently insisted upon the Solemn League and Covenant by way of anticipation you answer their objection by telling them First That they must not be too confident from former suc●esses shewing them that God suffers men sometimes to prosper in wicked courses that there be just men unto whom it happens according to the worke of the wicked and that there be wicked men unto whom it happeneth according to the worke of the righteous Page 12. of your Letter But to reply in the first place why may not they conclude from successes as well as you how often have we heard you attribute the successes of the Army from time to time to your prayers and morning meetings and Lectures though made use of both by prayer and preaching to render them odi●●● in the sight of God and man if it was possible but 2ly Though successes are not alwayes the infallible testimonies of the goodnesse of the cause on which side they fall● yet successes with their circumstances doe sometimes 〈…〉 evidently vindicate the minde of God in a questionable 〈◊〉 as First when both parties have appealed solemnly 〈◊〉 God in a doubtfull case or at least so appearing 〈◊〉 him to blesse or blast make to prosper or to perish that 〈◊〉 that is not righteous in his eyes As for instance when the false Prophets commanded to goe up to Ramoth Giliad and prosper and the Prophet of the Lord told them that if they went up they should perish and both parties pretended to the message of the Lord herein Certainly the succe●se in this case argueth the minde and will of God touching th●●● going or not going to Ramo●h Giliad when some of 〈◊〉 did ●id the City goe out against the Army when they came towards the City telling them you had a command from God to this purpose assuring them that if they did let the Army come in 1646. they would plunder the City ruine and destroy them And others of the Ministers of Jesus Christ pre●ending to the same name and authority a● you did required them in the name of the Lord not to goe out to fight against ●he Army assuring that if the Army did come not a hai●● of ●heir heads should perish Doubtlesse the successe in this case was very argumentative touching the will of God So 〈◊〉 the Scots came the last yeare into this Kingdome pretending ●he quarrell of the Covenant for