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be_v deprive_v if_o they_o shall_v fall_v in_o to_o they_o be_v hand_n who_o will_v not_o afford_v they_o the_o favour_n which_o paul_n have_v at_o rome_n to_o dwell_v in_o his_o own_o hire_a house_n 28.16.30.31_o act_n 28.16.30.31_o and_o to_o receive_v all_o that_o come_v in_o unto_o he_o preach_v the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n etc._n etc._n no_o man_n forbid_v he_o neither_o be_v it_o do_v by_o they_o as_o by_o those_o who_o be_v act_v by_o the_o spirit_n of_o that_o base_a fear_n which_o be_v oppose_v to_o the_o spirit_n of_o power_n and_o of_o a_o sound_a mind_n 1.7_o 2_o tim_n 1.7_o for_o even_o the_o spirit_n of_o power_n or_o courage_n or_o fortitude_n work_v diverse_o in_o the_o servant_n of_o god_n upon_o several_a occasion_n when_o god_n call_v man_n to_o confess_v the_o truth_n by_o do_v it_o it_o incourage_v they_o thereunto_o whatsoever_o difficulty_n or_o impediment_n lie_v in_o the_o way_n when_o he_o call_v they_o to_o witness_v to_o it_o by_o suffer_v it_o strengthen_v 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and_o diet_n and_o to_o be_v revile_v in_o his_o own_o land_n and_o suspect_v among_o stranger_n and_o to_o be_v ill_o entreat_v oppress_a reject_v and_o in_o print_n traduce_v by_o those_o who_o shall_v have_v comfort_v and_o countenance_v he_o and_o to_o be_v browbeaten_a by_o his_o inferior_n fhy_o look_v upon_o by_o some_o aequal_o treacherous_o circumvent_v by_o other_o obnoxious_a to_o the_o injury_n of_o all_o in_o a_o word_n to_o be_v a_o footstool_n for_o other_o to_o tread_v upon_o that_o they_o may_v raise_v themselves_o by_o do_v some_o service_n though_o it_o be_v by_o rail_v against_o or_o slander_v those_o who_o they_o frown_v upon_o 3.12.18_o psal_n 129.3_o secedamus_fw-la inquit_fw-la amâ—_n cis_fw-la nubecula_fw-la est_fw-la quae_fw-la citò_fw-la evanescit_fw-la socrat_n hyst_n 3.12.18_o from_o who_o they_o expect_v preferment_n as_o erasmus_n say_v of_o luther_n poor_a luther_n make_v many_o rich_a man_n because_o they_o get_v preferment_n in_o those_o day_n by_o wright_v against_o he_o be_v this_o to_o forsake_v the_o lord_n plough_v or_o be_v it_o not_o for_o the_o testimony_n of_o christ_n to_o be_v content_a that_o the_o plougher_n plough_v long_a furrow_n upon_o our_o back_n do_v athanasius_n forsake_v the_o lord_n plough_v when_o to_o decline_v julian_n plot_n against_o he_o he_o flee_v from_o alexandria_n this_o be_v not_o to_o forsake_v the_o call_n of_o god_n but_o to_o follow_v it_o the_o like_a i_o may_v say_v of_o peter_n martyr_n relinquish_a his_o station_n in_o luca_n when_o he_o see_v he_o can_v not_o with_o safety_n hold_v it_o it_o be_v not_o a_o desert_v of_o his_o flock_n but_o a_o preserve_n himself_o for_o his_o flock_n who_o if_o he_o have_v not_o leave_v for_o a_o time_n they_o and_o the_o whole_a church_n have_v lose_v for_o ever_o i_o will_v not_o now_o speak_v of_o policarpus_fw-la and_o cyprian_a &_o other_o in_o former_a time_n nor_o of_o those_o who_o flee_v in_o q_n maryes_fw-mi day_n and_o be_v preserve_v in_o franckfurt_n and_o other_o place_n for_o after_o time_n in_o hypothesi_fw-la for_o the_o justify_n of_o my_o own_o act_n in_o this_o particular_a be_v injurious_o compel_v hereunto_o in_o so_o public_a a_o way_n by_o the_o inconsiderate_a importunity_n of_o a_o angry_a brother_n who_o seem_v very_o regardless_o how_o far_o he_o expose_v i_o to_o censure_v or_o danger_n i_o will_v brief_o relate_v both_o the_o cause_n of_o it_o and_o the_o manner_n of_o my_o carriage_n in_o it_o that_o the_o true_a cause_n may_v be_v know_v false_a cause_n pretend_v by_o other_o must_v be_v remove_v for_o this_o way_n i_o have_v be_v much_o wrong_v while_o many_o out_o of_o ignorance_n or_o malice_n or_o both_o either_o willing_o not_o know_v or_o malicious_o conceal_v the_o truth_n have_v take_v a_o unwarrantable_a liberty_n to_o spread_v abroad_o slander_n with_o as_o much_o confidence_n as_o if_o they_o have_v be_v train_v up_o in_o the_o machiavell_n and_o jesuit_n principle_n haerebit_fw-la 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such_o to_o baptism_n in_o amsterdam_n three_o mr._n attersoll_n shall_v shut_v up_o this_o discourse_n of_o time_n 6_o of_o the_o sacram_fw-la of_o bapt._n 2._o book_n ch_n 6_o who_o the_o reader_n may_v suspect_v to_o favour_v this_o custom_n if_o something_o be_v not_o noated_a by_o we_o to_o prevent_v mistake_n now_o howsoever_o he_o may_v seem_v to_o be_v some_o what_o large_a in_o his_o judgement_n this_o way_n and_o to_o yield_v more_o then_o either_o mr._n beza_n or_o dr._n ames_n have_v do_v in_o this_o point_n &_o it_o may_v be_v more_o than_o himself_o will_v have_v do_v if_o he_o have_v full_o understand_v the_o disorder_n against_o which_o we_o testify_v yet_o the_o limitation_n and_o caution_n which_o he_o propound_v do_v discover_v the_o evil_a of_o that_o practice_n concern_v which_o the_o present_a question_n be_v 218_o p._n 218_o for_o 1._o he_o deny_v that_o the_o infant_n of_o turk_n or_o jew_n may_v be_v baptize_v against_o the_o like_n and_o good_a will_n of_o their_o parent_n but_o it_o be_v very_o possible_a and_o probable_a that_o some_o such_o may_v be_v offer_v to_o baptism_n by_o any_o that_o have_v steal_v they_o or_o for_o some_o other_o reason_n for_o aught_o the_o minister_n know_v or_o demand_v in_o that_o place_n 219._o p._n 219._o 2._o in_o the_o case_n of_o the_o child_n of_o impaenitent_a person_n he_o suppose_v two_o thing_n without_o which_o his_o plea_n for_o their_o baptism_n fall_v 1._o that_o they_o be_v so_o bear_v in_o the_o church_n and_o of_o it_o that_o the_o church_n may_v be_v say_v to_o be_v as_o it_o be_v their_o mother_n 2._o that_o they_o be_v in_o the_o covenant_n in_o regard_n of_o their_o elder_n of_o who_o they_o discend_v as_o the_o jew_n be_v in_o abraham_n though_o their_o next_o parent_n be_v wicked_a 221._o p._n
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