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A11503	Vindiciæ sacræ. A treatise of the honor and maintenance due to ecclesiasticall persons. Done out of the Latin, of that famous diuine of Holland, H. Saravia, sometime prebend of Canterbury.; De diversis ministrorum evangelii gradibus. Part 3. English	Saravia, Adrien, 1530-1612.; Martin, James, fl. 1615-1630.	1629 (1629)	STC 21752; ESTC S112329	24,696	101

who are now in worse case then euer before yea they were farre better releeued by Ecclesiasticall persons heretofore then now by Lay-men of what qualitie soeuer that haue gotten the Lands of the Church into their possession And when the Tyrannie of the Bishop of Rome was first abolished the Poore might with more ease haue obtained their due portion from the Pastors of the Church then euer they could from them which vniustly succeeded them and still vsurpe the Churches Patrimonie But to conclude whosoeuer they bee that either make a prey of the Church or wickedly abuse the Reuenewes thereof cannot be excused from the Crime of Sacriledge and therefore without Restitution shall not escape the Vengeance of GOD. * ⁎ * Reasons against the Maintenance of Ministers by arbitrarie Stipends SEeing the Apostolike Rule commands that good Order be kept in the Church and that all things therein bee done to Edification it is not amisse to consider whether it may better bee obserued by putting Ministers to Pensions or by the ancient manner of paying Tithes and Offerings to the Pastors deliuered by the Apostles to the People of God and practised by the Fathers of the Church I suppose that Wisedome was not borne with vs that wee should order things better then the Ancients did and I hold that wee ought to innouate nothing in the Church without the approued patterne of former times to the end wee giue no iust cause to our Aduersaries to calumniate But this new found way of honoring the Clergie with Stipendarie Contributions is vnknowne to the Scriptures and Fathers for it was neuer heard of before our time that the Church had stipendarie Ministers Yet I would not be so mistaken as if I held it vtterly vnlawfull for the Magistrate to allow Pensions to the Clergie for their better maintenance but this I say that Christian People are bound to their Pastors in a more strickt and religious Bond of Obseruance and therefore it is their dutie by the best Expressions of a gratefull mind to honor them which when they doe not it is a signe their Charitie is but cold ●al 6.6 St Paul commands that he which is taught in the Word communicate vnto his Teacher in all his Goods From which Dutie no stipends can free the Rich and Wealthy hearers For that Communication of good things is not alwayes done for the releeuing of necessitie but also for the Testification of our thankfull and honorable Regard Our poore Christian Brother is honoured with a reward for his necessitie but the Pastor for his Office and Dignitie Againe the Will of Magistrate is mutable whom if Ministers chance to displease they are sure to haue but slow payment and perhaps none at all And if their Pensions come from the publike Treasurie whensoeuer that is at an Ebbe as many times it happens they are like to be in a pittifull case For the People being not wont to pay any thing of due Right to their Pastor will thinke that his Necessitie is nothing to them and will not therefore be perswaded to do as Dutie binds them yea the most will rather vtterly forsake their Preacher then contribute any thing to him who being so deserted will bee forced to leaue his Flocke as in many places of Holland it hath come to passe And how miserable the estate of Ministers is in Holland both for smalnesse of Stipend and difficultie of payment they know who haue experience of it being inforced to goe a long and tedious way to begge their Pay of the Officers who oft welcomming them with base reproches send them away emptie so that they bring home nought beside the troublesomnesse of their Iourney but losse of Time and Expence Moreouer the Magistrates that are accustomed to pay such Stipends begin to esteeme their Pastors but as Ciuill Officers insomuch that men of base condition setting their Office aside as Shoomakers Smithes Woodmongers and Pedling Merchants dare many times presume to insult most rudely ouer their Preachers saying you are our Seruants we pay you Wages c. I should be ashamed to speake so contemptuously to a Drudge or Scullian Being at a solemne Feast at Gaunt where the Prince of Orange was entertained I sat ouer against two Scabines or Burgomasters who when they had well warmed themselues with Wine and of Mutes were become Vowels thinking belike that I heard not what they sayd being busie in talke with him that sat next me they fell as I well remember into this Discourse We must sayd they take heed lest these Ministers doe not sometime put vs to as much trouble as the Popes did We must therefore keepe them vnder that they grow not into too much fauour and authoritie with the People to the preiudice of the Magistrate and especially wee must see that their Stipends bee not great for hee that daintily feeds his Seruant shall find him refractarie These Men made a shew to be Patrous forsooth of the Church and Defenders thereof but afterwards they discouered themselues what they were prouing indeed Traytors to the Church and Countrey Whether Holland haue any more such I know not From like effects it is lawfull to argue to the like causes Thus wee see that the Temporalties of the Church being confiscate or sacrilegiously alienated there can accrew nothing to the Clergie from their new supercilious Pay-Masters but Contempt Let none therefore wonder if I dislike this new fangled way of honoring and maintayning the Ministers of the Gospel for it is no honour which is ioyned with Disgrace And let that Order which was prescribed by God himselfe out of his Diuine Wisdome in the Old and New Testament for the honorable maintenance of his Seruants as it was vnderstood and practised by the ancient Fathers be inuiolably obserued nor let selfe-conceit flatter vs that wee are able to find out a better way Let Abuses be so corrected that the lawfull vse be restored and let not their Impietie which with their wicked Acts defiled sacred prophane things so farre transport vs as to confound sacred and prophane together and vtterly abolish that difference in Things which Nature and Reason haue constituted FINIS AN APPENDIX TO SARAVIA ANSWERING FOVRE MAINE Arguments which Vsurpers of the Churches Right vsually alledge POST TENEBRAS LVX LONDON Printed by T. Cotes and R. Cotes for Iames Boler 1629. An Appendix to SARAVIA Answering foure maine Arguments which Vsurpers of the Churches Rights vsually alledge First Abbey-Land OVR Land is Abbey-Land belonging to such a Monasterie before the Dissolution and consequently exempted from Tithes as was the Abbey Answer This Land they may enioy vnlesse it were once consecrated to the Church and if so let them take heed for what is once dedicated to the seruice of God may not be alienated there-from some few cases excepted whereof this of Lay-impropriators is none Their Reply It is descended to vs by Inheritance and therefore we may without scruple enioy it Answer 1 It is very

of Christianitie will instantly sell all they haue and lay downe the price at the Churches feet Act. 4.34 Surely MADAM were these People in truth the Children of God as they strongly fancie themselues Narcissus-like being in loue with their owne supposed Beauty they would be better affected to the Church the Mistresse of heauenly Truth and not goe about like pernicious Furies to cloathe Her in Raggs that so feruently and frequently endeuors by the dispensation of Gods holy Word and Sacraments to adorne their Soules with the precious Pearles and inestimable Jewels of all Christian Vertues and to inuest them Luke primâ stolâ with the Richembrodered Robes and Royall Ornaments of a true iustifying and sauing Faith But they well shew of what Spirit they are euen of such a one as would fright the whole Packe of them if he should appeare and bristle among them at their Conuenticles or Night-Assemblies The GOD of Heauen assist and comfort your GRACE with his Holy Spirit make you a happy Jnstrument of much Good to his Church and crowne you in the end with a Diadem of eternall GLORIE Your GRACES most humbly deuoted IAMES MARTIN TO ALL NOBLE AND RELIGIOVS Patrons and Patronesses of the CHVRCH Most Noble and Religious LET it not seeme strange to ioyne you all in one Inscription whom God hath linked as those ancient Worthies and Act. 4.32 primitiue Saints by the Golden Chaine of a blessed Societie and Communion for the comfort and support of his despised and distressed Embassadors whom though the Deuil his Aethiopian Angels Reu. 2.10 striue continually by their Agents and Vnder-minisbers to bring into Aegyptian seruitude and contempt by oppressing deprauing and impouerishing them yet hath the Spirit of GRACE stirred vp your excellent Spirits to relieue encourage and sustaine them In which Noble Actions among other famous Precedents you haue that thrice-Glorious Emperor THEODOSIVS your Predecessor who euen on his Death-bed and in extremitie of Sicknesse exprest his Royall Charitie ardent Zeale feruent Deuotion to the State Ecclesiasticall as to his eternall honor S. Ambrose hath recorded And surely if some Tim. 3.5 selfe-deceauing Christians of our Time which make Religion a verie Mummerie and Disguise for their sinister ends and giue small or no 2 Tim. 4.3 Regard to the Diuine Ordinance in the Ministerie of their owne Pastors would vn-maske a while and enter into a strict consideration of their Mortalitie and the infinitenesse of Eternitie with the succeeding interminable Ioyes or Torments they must shortly endure how highly would they esteeme and reuerence their ' Rectors and Spirituall Guides Heb. 13.17 whom God hath so singularly honord with that Euangelicall yea Angelicall Office of conducting Soules to Heauen Would they not in a sacred Rapture cry out with the Propheticall Esay 52. ● Euangelist How beautifull vpon the Mountaines are the feet of him that declareth and publisheth Peace that declareth good tidings and publisheth Saluation saying vnto Zion Thy God raigneth Vndoubtedly they would notwithstanding their humane frailties and ● Cor. 4.7 infirmities receiue them as the Gal. 4.13 14 15. Galatians did S. Paul and thinke nothing too good or too precious for them But alas we haue too iust cause to subioine that of the same Apostle Rom. 10.16 All haue not obeyed the Gospel For many saith S. Bernard will goe with the Wise-men from the East Act. 2.11 to seeke Christ yea they will fall down and worship him but they are growne too wise to open their Treasures Blessed therefore are YOV thrice-Noble Christians that spare neither your Gold Frankincense nor Myrrhe but make your Riches as Abraham did his Seruants to helpe to entertaine the Angels of God And thrice-blessed shall you be at that GREAT DAY when you shall ioyntly receaue your GREAT REWARD in Heauen March on therefore like the Starres in their Orbes Judg. 5.20 in your Seraphicall Zeale to the House of God and the Officers thereof that by such Heauenly Acts of Pietie laying vp in store for your selues a good 1 Tim. 6.19 Foundation against the time to come you may lay hold on Eternall Life The God of Heauen multiply the Glorious Graces of his Holy Spirit vpon you that being faithfull vnto Death Reu. 2.10 He may giue you a Crowne of Life Vester humilis deuotus IACOBVS MARTINIVS Facultatis Artium Mr Oxon. DE Authore Jnterprete CARMEN QVae priùs in Latio latuerunt abdita vulgo Dogmata Semonis sancta celebranda Bataui Haec sacer Interpres pulcrè transfundit ornat At qui sacrata gemmata monilia Libro Explicat aureolo Gemmam proponit in illo E. Gemmam Ne sis Aesopi Lector 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 RICHARDVS CRVXONIVS Theologus To the AVTHOR AS some rare Flower whose silken Leaues haue beene Concealed long from their desired View Displayes at last his bright-sweet-smiling hew Fit to adorne the Bosome of a Queene Or as a Diamond of rich esteeme In doubtfull shadow of the darkesome Night Darts forth his beames and giues a cheerfull light Whose Lustre may a Royall Crowne beseeme So shine thy Glories so this Worke shall be An Arch-Triumphall to thy Memorie R. B. LONDINAS A Treatise of the honor and maintenance due to the CLERGIE CHAP. I. Donaries giuen to Churches are firme by the same Lawes by which others of the Laity possesse their estates THE zeale and bounty of our fore Fathers in enriching the Church are knowne to all and it were strange to imagine that an vniuersall error or as some would haue it a madnesse should so long transport them in that point and that their Posteritie going a quite contrary way without Warrant from God and Example of former Ages should bee wiser then they As to follow the bad examples of our Ancestors is a fond Absurdity so to contemne their examples rashly and without iust cause is meere Impiety It is true both fathers and children are all prone to euill but whether are men more apt to take from others or to giue of their owne Our fathers gaue as none can deny with no ill intent their children take away what they gaue with what minde is apparant enough They gaue according to the Lawes these take contrary to Law Those things which haue beene giuen to the Church haue their strength and validity from the selfe-same Lawes whereby other men possesse what they haue and there is none but would thinke it a Tyrannicall act in a Magistrate to thurst him out of his Possessions without hearing him first speake for himselfe It had beene fit therefore that Ecclesiasticall persons should haue beene permitted to haue had audience and that sufficient reasons should haue been alleaged to them why they ought not any longer to be suffered in a Christian Common wealth nor to enioy the possessions of the Church They also which succeeded them in their Pastorall Charge should haue beene heard for it concerned them to know how the goods

of the Church were disposed But to confiscate and sweepe all away without any legall proceeding or hearing of the parties was against all right and reason If Bishops and Priests were willing to renounce Popery and embrace the Truth there was no cause to expell them vnlesse perhaps Church-Liuings were to bee numbered among the Heresies and Idolatries of the Romish Church as some good fellowes would haue them And here I know not whether the Ignorance of Ministers or the Auarice of Magistrats be more blame-worthy Both without question were very faulty But those subtle and crafty Politiques which hypocritically made a faire shew to fauour the preaching of the Gospell for their owne base and wicked ends were the Authors and Abettors of all this mischiefe So that what in others was Error or Ignorance in them was pure Malice and Villany For who can excuse them of sacriledge which vnder colour of reforming the Church in many places of High and Low Germany made a prey of all that was giuen to the Church I confesse the supreme Magistrate ought to be the Patron of the Church and may by his authoritie enact Lawes concerning Church-liuings but in no case appropriate them to himself For the Patron ought not to dispoyle his Clyent And it was neuer heard of before these Times that any Christian Magistrate did confiscate all Ecclesiasticall Possessions without exception All Histories haue branded them with Infamy which in Extremities of the Commonwealth haue taken away but a part What then shall we thinke of those which haue playd at sweepe-stake with Church-Liuings I name none but I meane them which by their lewd Examples haue taught their Neighbours to commit Sacriledge Wherein they imitate Iulian the Apostate and the great Turke which make no difference betwixt sacred and prophane and not any Christian Magistrate either of these or former times that I know To such it is a shame that Sacriledge may iustly be obiected But a farre greater shame that by such it should be vniustly committed CHAP. II. The definition of Sacriledge SOme there are that thinke no Sacriledge can be now committed because forsooth the difference betwixt sacred and prophane in externall things is by our Sauiours death extinguisht But this is not the opinion of a Diuine but of an Atheist rather For though to the holy all things be holy and all things prophane to the prophane yet the distinction of Things which they haue in their vse and end is not to be abolisht Among all Nations there was euer a maine difference set betwixt that which was dedicated to Diuine worship and that which was for vulgar vse It is the End which for the most part denominates all things Priuate men haue their Treasure and the Common-wealth hers If you regard the stuffe both are of the same nature to wit Gold and Siluer and whatsoeuer else is of value But if you respect the End and Possessor it is farre otherwise For the end of priuate wealth is the profite of one onely Family But the end of the publike is the benefite of the Prince and People In like sort the Treasure or Wealth which is giuen or collected for the Worship of God hath a farre different end from the other and being consecrated to a holy vse is therefore sacred Furthermore as the Wrong against the Prince or State is more heynous then that against a priuate man And therefore the stealing from a priuate man is but Theft but from the publike Treasurie Pecula● Robberie in the highest degree So by how much more it is a greater crime to sinne against GOD then Man the expilation of the sacred Portion is farre more damnable then any other Theft or Robberie whatsoeuer And therefore it is properly termed Sacriledge and is defined The stealing of a thing sacred The turpitude of which Theft is so execrable that God himselfe all Nations haue punisht it with exquisite Torments But the former definition comprises not onely things destinate to the seruice of the true GOD but also of false Gods For the Knowledge and Contempt of any Deitie is of the Essence of Sacriledge Now that all or the most which Popish Clergie possessed either by the Poore or Churches interest hath beene purloyned sold confiscate or conuerted to priuate mens vses it is so cleere that I need not stand further vpon it CHAP. III. Reasons or Pretenses where-with some would palliate their Sacriledge BVT sacrilegious Persons and their Proctors contend that whatsoeuer was done in this case was lawfully done both for the abolishing of the Popes Tyrannie and for the establishing of the Gospell Their Reasons are these Ecclesiasticall possessions were imploied to idolatrous and prophane vses which being abrogated they cannot by the Lawes descend to any but onely to the publike Treasurie the gouernment whereof belongs to the Christian Magistrate And as the godly Emperors Constantin Theodosius Honorius and Arcadius hauing banished the Idolatry of the Gentiles tooke into their hands without any note of Sacriledge the Reuenewes and Possessions of their Priests and Temples to dispose as pleased them So also the Christian Magistrate hauing cashierd Popery may by the same Right challenge the Wealth and Substance which belonged to Priests Monkes Nunnes and the like and confiscate them as Escheats vsually are according to Law For no Bishop euer thought that the Church had any Right or Title to those Goods or Reuenewes which were destinated to Idolatry Strange therefore it were that any Minister of the Gospel should clayme the Riches of the Popish Church as due to the Reformed Besides there is extant an Imperiall Decree in the Court in the first Booke De Paganis Sacrificijs tit 14. in these words Omnia loca c. that is Wee command that all places which the Error of the Ancients assigned to Sacrifices be appropriated to our Estate But that which We or the Princes our Predecessors haue by that Right bestowed on particular persons Wee will that it be perpetually confirmed to them as their Patrimonie And those things which We are pleased by many Edicts to allot to the Church let the Christian Religion challenge as her owne Dated at Rauenna 3 Cal. Sept. Honorius the 10 and Theodosius the 6 Emperors By which Decree it is manifest that the Emperours had right to dispose to whom they pleased those Goods which after the abrogation of the Idolatry of Pagans had no owners And in the Digest Lib. 33. tit 2. De vsu vsu fructu legatis leg 16. Legatum c. We read of Legacies bestowed vpon Showes or Playes which were not lawfull to bee acted And if the word Masse bee put in stead of the word Playes the case will be alike The words of the Law are thus Legatum Ciuitati relictum c. that is A Legacie being bequeathed to a Citie to the end that out of the yeerely Reuenewes a Show be exhibited in the Citie in memorie of the defunct which is vnlawfull to be