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be_v say_v but_o excommunication_n or_o any_o other_o church-prosecution_n can_v fit_o be_v call_v persecution_n yes_o very_o excommunication_n be_v a_o persecution_n and_o a_o lawful_a persecution_n if_o the_o cause_n be_v just_a offence_n as_o the_o angel_n of_o the_o lord_n be_v say_v to_o persecute_v the_o wicked_a psalm_n 35.6_o but_o the_o excommunication_n be_v a_o cruel_a and_o bitter_a persecution_n if_o it_o be_v without_o just_a cause_n and_o due_a order_n yea_o and_o the_o more_o grievous_a persecution_n by_o how_o much_o the_o more_o grievous_a it_o be_v to_o a_o christian_a man_n to_o be_v exclude_v from_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o saint_n then_o to_o be_v banish_v from_o a_o civil_a society_n sure_o it_o be_v the_o lord_n jesus_n account_v it_o a_o persecution_n to_o his_o disciple_n to_o be_v deliver_v up_o unto_o the_o synagogue_n and_o to_o be_v cast_v forth_o out_o of_o the_o synagogue_n luk._n 21.12_o with_o joh._n 16.2_o chap._n 16._o a_o reply_n to_o his_o 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and_o rome_n all_o one_o with_o the_o city_n of_o philippi_n and_o rome_n etc._n etc._n defender_n no_o such_o matter_n i_o never_o think_v these_o scripture_n to_o belong_v at_o all_o to_o the_o city_n of_o philippi_n or_o rome_n paul_n write_v to_o both_o the_o church_n not_o only_o to_o tolerate_v but_o to_o receive_v their_o weak_a brethren_n who_o dissent_v from_o they_o in_o matter_n of_o less_o moment_n but_o to_o the_o city_n i_o never_o read_v any_o epistle_n of_o he_o who_o will_v ever_o imagine_v the_o discusser_n shall_v be_v so_o far_o transport_v beyond_o all_o bound_n either_o of_o reason_n or_o truth_n or_o candour_n as_o to_o surmise_v the_o answerer_n shall_v conceive_v that_o what_o those_o church_n must_v not_o tolerate_v in_o their_o holy_a communion_n that_o the_o city_n of_o philippi_n and_o rome_n must_v not_o tolerate_v within_o the_o compass_n
that_o they_o will_v do_v it_o without_o some_o excitement_n from_o the_o angel_n no_o more_o than_o the_o angel_n pour_v out_o their_o vial_n till_o they_o be_v stir_v up_o by_o a_o great_a voice_n out_o of_o the_o temple_n revelation_n 16.1_o it_o be_v a_o evasion_n as_o groundless_a as_o the_o former_a that_o elijah_n stir_v up_o of_o ahab_n to_o kill_v all_o the_o priest_n and_o prophet_n of_o baal_n be_v figurative_a for_o all_o figure_n in_o the_o old_a testament_n have_v their_o accomplishment_n â—n_o the_o new_a now_o evident_a it_o be_v ahab_n a_o apostate_n idolater_n be_v no_o type_n of_o christ_n nor_o be_v israel_n after_o their_o apostasy_n a_o type_n of_o the_o true_a church_n of_o christ_n a_o tabernacle_n it_o be_v but_o not_o a_o tabernacle_n of_o christ_n aholah_n but_o not_o aholibah_n to_o make_v this_o act_n in_o israel_n a_o type_n of_o christ_n act_n in_o christian_a state_n or_o church_n be_v to_o make_v darkness_n a_o type_n of_o light_n ceremonial_a law_n be_v general_o typical_a not_o so_o moses_n his_o judicial_o especial_o those_o which_o have_v in_o they_o moral_a equity_n it_o be_v moral_a equity_n that_o blasphemer_n and_o apostate_n idolater_n seduce_v other_o to_o idolatry_n shall_v be_v put_v to_o death_n levit._n 24.16_o deut._n 13.5_o ahab_n forfeit_v his_o own_o life_n because_o he_o do_v not_o put_v benhadad_o to_o death_n for_o his_o blasphemy_n 1_o king_n 20.23_o 28._o and_o ver_fw-la 42._o yet_o benhadad_o be_v no_o israelite_n nor_o be_v his_o blasphemy_n blech_v out_o in_o the_o land_n of_o israel_n but_o the_o external_a equity_n of_o that_o judicial_a law_n of_o moses_n be_v of_o moral_a force_n and_o bind_v all_o prince_n to_o express_v that_o zeal_n and_o indignation_n both_o against_o blasphemy_n in_o such_o as_o fall_v under_o their_o just_a power_n which_o ahab_n neglect_v and_o against_o seduction_n to_o idolatry_n which_o ahab_n execute_v or_o else_o elijah_n or_o some_o other_o by_o his_o consent_n but_o 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evident_o demonstrate_v to_o the_o conscience_n from_o chap._n eighteen_o to_o this_o chapter_n twentieight_n five_o point_n negative_o and_o five_o point_n affirmative_o but_o because_o what_o he_o rehearse_v have_v be_v reverse_v in_o the_o reply_n to_o those_o several_a chapter_n i_o will_v not_o actum_fw-la agere_fw-la nor_o dictum_fw-la dicere_fw-la chap._n 29._o a_o reply_n to_o his_o twentininth_n chapter_n discuss_v the_o text_n in_o matth._n 15.14_o letter_n the_o second_o scripture_n bring_v against_o such_o persecution_n for_o cause_n of_o conscience_n be_v matth_n 15.14_o where_o the_o disciple_n be_v trouble_v at_o the_o pharise_n carriage_n towards_o the_o lord_n jesus_n and_o his_o doctrine_n and_o relate_v how_o they_o be_v offend_v at_o he_o the_o lord_n jesus_n command_v his_o disciple_n to_o let_v they_o alone_o and_o give_v this_o reason_n that_o the_o blind_a lead_v the_o blind_a and_o both_o shall_v fall_v into_o the_o ditch_n answ_n of_o the_o letter_n christ_n speak_v not_o there_o to_o public_a officer_n whether_o in_o church_n or_o commonwealth_n but_o to_o his_o private_a disciple_n concern_v the_o pharise_n over_o who_o they_o have_v no_o power_n and_o the_o command_n he_o give_v to_o let_v they_o alone_o be_v speak_v in_o regard_n of_o trouble_v themselves_o or_o regard_v the_o offence_n which_o they_o take_v at_o the_o wholesome_a doctrine_n of_o the_o gospel_n as_o who_o shall_v say_v though_o they_o be_v offend_v at_o this_o wholesome_a say_n of_o i_o yet_o do_v not_o you_o fear_v their_o fear_n nor_o be_v trouble_v at_o their_o offence_n which_o they_o take_v at_o my_o doctrine_n not_o out_o of_o sound_a judgement_n but_o out_o of_o blindness_n but_o this_o make_v nothing_o to_o the_o cause_n in_o hand_n discusser_n to_o pass_v by_o this_o assertion_n of_o the_o privacy_n of_o the_o apostle_n in_o that_o the_o lord_n jesus_n command_v to_o let_v they_o alone_o that_o be_v not_o only_o to_o be_v offend_v themselves_o but_o not_o to_o meddle_v with_o they_o it_o appear_v it_o be_v no_o ordinance_n of_o god_n nor_o of_o christ_n for_o his_o disciple_n to_o have_v go_v further_o and_o have_v complain_v to_o and_o excite_v the_o civil_a magistrate_n to_o his_o duty_n which_o if_o it_o have_v be_v a_o ordinance_n of_o god_n and_o christ_n either_o for_o the_o vindicate_a of_o christ_n doctrine_n or_o the_o recover_n of_o the_o pharise_n or_o the_o preserve_n of_o other_o from_o infection_n the_o lord_n jesus_n will_v never_o have_v command_v they_o to_o omit_v that_o which_o shall_v have_v tend_v to_o these_o holy_a end_n defender_n reply_v 1_o to_o pass_v by_o the_o assertion_n of_o the_o privacy_n of_o the_o apostle_n it_o be_v not_o a_o act_n of_o courtesy_n and_o loathnesse_n to_o strive_v but_o out_o of_o defect_n of_o just_a pretence_n to_o make_v any_o colourable_a exception_n against_o it_o for_o though_o the_o apostle_n be_v call_v to_o a_o public_a ministry_n math._n 10._o yet_o it_o seem_v not_o as_o then_o 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filthy_a garment_n zach._n 3.3_o 4._o 2._o concern_v prayer_n though_o the_o new_a english_a minister_n have_v witness_v against_o the_o common_a set-forme_n thereof_o which_o yet_o ourselves_o in_o our_o ignorance_n have_v sometime_o use_v and_o have_v therefore_o see_v just_a cause_n to_o judge_v ourselves_o since_o yet_o we_o do_v not_o thereby_o loose_a fellowship_n with_o god_n by_o such_o sinnne_n of_o ignorance_n no_o more_o than_o the_o people_n of_o god_n do_v in_o the_o day_n of_o hezekiah_n by_o sacrifice_v to_o god_n in_o the_o high_a place_n when_o yet_o they_o do_v it_o to_o the_o lord_n their_o god_n only_o 2_o chron._n 33.17_o i_o know_v no_o such_o faithful_a admonisher_n as_o present_v to_o we_o in_o england_n argument_n against_o the_o common_a prayer_n which_o then_o seem_v weak_a but_o now_o be_v acknowledge_v to_o be_v sound_n though_o such_o a_o thing_n possible_o may_v be_v true_a howsoever_o forget_v but_o this_o i_o be_o persuade_v to_o be_v utter_o false_a that_o any_o of_o we_o satisfy_v our_o heart_n with_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o author_n of_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n who_o use_v to_o read_v some_o of_o the_o choice_a select_a prayer_n out_o of_o the_o mass-booke_n the_o spirit_n of_o a_o child_n of_o god_n though_o upon_o occasion_n he_o may_v receive_v such_o a_o practice_n yet_o he_o can_v never_o satisfy_v himself_o with_o the_o practice_n of_o any_o godly_a man_n for_o the_o warrant_n of_o his_o imitation_n without_o some_o further_a light_n or_o at_o least_o apprehension_n of_o light_n from_o the_o word_n 3._o it_o be_v ready_o grant_v that_o which_o be_v observe_v in_o the_o three_o place_n that_o god_n people_n may_v live_v and_o die_v in_o such_o kind_n of_o worship_n though_o light_n from_o the_o word_n whether_o public_o or_o private_o have_v be_v present_v to_o they_o able_a to_o convince_v nevertheless_o that_o will_v not_o weaken_v the_o conclusion_n former_o mention_v and_o afterward_o further_o discuss_v that_o 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a_o unwarrant_v way_n and_o form_n of_o prophesy_v when_o god_n command_v he_o to_o speak_v to_o the_o rock_n before_o the_o congregation_n of_o israel_n he_o speak_v not_o to_o the_o rock_n but_o stroke_v it_o with_o his_o rod_n for_o which_o he_o have_v no_o commandment_n and_o speak_v to_o the_o people_n and_o that_o in_o a_o passion_n and_o and_o both_o without_o a_o commaundament_n numb_a 20.8.11_o and_o yet_o this_o do_v not_o cut_v off_o his_o fellowship_n with_o god_n nor_o god_n gracious_a presence_n with_o he_o in_o give_v water_n to_o the_o people_n no_o not_o at_o that_o time_n god_n know_v how_o to_o be_v present_a with_o his_o people_n in_o blessing_n their_o administration_n and_o forgive_a their_o iniquity_n though_o he_o do_v take_v vengeance_n of_o their_o invention_n psal_n 99.8_o 4._o though_o i_o do_v maintain_v as_o the_o apostle_n do_v a_o clearness_n of_o fundamental_a point_n of_o religion_n and_o worship_n such_o fundamental_n i_o say_v without_o which_o fellowship_n with_o god_n can_v be_v have_v and_o though_o i_o grant_v that_o in_o subsert_v such_o fundamental_a point_n and_o persist_v therein_o after_o once_o or_o twice_o admonition_n a_o man_n sin_v against_o his_o own_o conscience_n and_o be_v therefore_o censurable_a by_o the_o church_n yea_o and_o by_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n also_o if_o after_o conviction_n he_o continue_v to_o seduce_v other_o unto_o his_o damnable_a heresy_n yet_o i_o do_v not_o herein_o measure_v to_o other_o that_o which_o myself_o when_o i_o live_v in_o such_o practice_n will_v not_o have_v measure_v to_o myself_o for_o i_o thank_v god_n god_n never_o leave_v i_o to_o live_v in_o any_o such_o practice_n as_o to_o fall_v into_o any_o fundamental_a error_n much_o less_o to_o persist_v therein_o after_o conviction_n and_o admonition_n and_o least_o of_o all_o to_o seduce_v other_o thereinto_o if_o god_n shall_v leave_v i_o so_o far_o as_o to_o fall_v so_o fearful_o into_o this_o threefold_a degree_n of_o heretical_a wickedness_n what_o be_o i_o better_a than_o other_o man_n better_o myself_o cut_v off_o by_o death_n or_o banishment_n than_o the_o flock_n of_o christ_n to_o be_v seduce_v and_o destroy_v by_o my_o heretical_a wickedness_n chap._n 6._o a_o reply_n to_o his_o six_o chapter_n discuss_v civil_a peace_n and_o the_o disturbance_n of_o it_o in_o this_o chapter_n the_o discusser_n undertake_v to_o declare_v what_o civil_a peace_n be_v and_o to_o show_v that_o the_o toleration_n of_o different_a religion_n be_v no_o disturbance_n of_o civil_a peace_n first_o for_o civil_a peace_n what_o be_v it_o say_v he_o but_o pax_fw-la civitatis_fw-la whether_o english_a or_o irish_a spanish_a or_o turkish_a city_n reply_n be_v it_o so_o and_o if_o the_o civil_a state_n or_o commonwealth_n contain_v many_o city_n or_o town_n and_o so_o become_v a_o whole_a country_n or_o commonwealth_n let_v civil_a peace_n be_v the_o peace_n of_o the_o country_n or_o of_o the_o commonwealth_n but_o what_o be_v then_o the_o peace_n of_o the_o city_n or_o country_n be_v it_o not_o tranquillitas_fw-la ordinis_fw-la the_o tranquillity_n of_o order_n in_o every_o society_n wherein_o the_o public_a weal_n of_o the_o city_n or_o country_n be_v concern_v and_o be_v it_o not_o the_o proper_a work_n of_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n to_o preserve_v the_o civil_a peace_n and_o to_o prevent_v or_o reform_v the_o disturbance_n of_o the_o tranquillity_n or_o peace_n of_o any_o such_o societye_n in_o who_o peace_n the_o peace_n or_o weale_n of_o the_o city_n or_o society_n be_v concern_v suppose_v a_o society_n of_o merchant_n or_o cloathyers_n or_o fishmonger_n or_o draper_n or_o the_o like_a if_o the_o weal_n of_o the_o city_n or_o country_n be_v concern_v in_o these_o as_o it_o be_v much_o concern_v in_o they_o all_o it_o be_v not_o for_o the_o safety_n of_o the_o civil_a sit_v to_o suffer_v any_o of_o these_o so_o
i_o have_v slay_v they_o by_o the_o word_n of_o my_o mouth_n and_o thy_o judgement_n be_v as_o the_o light_n that_o go_v forth_o ans_fw-fr the_o judgement_n of_o god_n whether_o of_o his_o mouth_n or_o of_o his_o hand_n do_v both_o of_o they_o go_v forth_o as_o light_v for_o when_o the_o judgement_n of_o god_n be_v upon_o the_o earth_n and_o he_o speak_v of_o the_o judgement_n of_o his_o hand_n the_o inhabitant_n of_o the_o world_n shall_v learn_v righteousness_n isai_n 26.9_o and_o that_o whereby_o we_o learn_v righteousness_n be_v light_n beside_o when_o the_o lord_n be_v say_v to_o have_v hew_v and_o slay_v his_o apostate_n people_n by_o his_o prophet_n and_o by_o the_o word_n of_o his_o mouth_n he_o do_v not_o only_o mean_v the_o spiritual_a hew_v and_o slay_v of_o their_o soul_n but_o also_o the_o temporal_a judgement_n famine_n war_n and_o pestilence_n which_o the_o prophet_n threaten_v and_o the_o hand_n of_o god_n and_o hazael_n execute_v in_o the_o hew_a and_o slay_v of_o they_o chap._n 10._o a_o reply_n to_o his_o ten_o chapter_n wherein_o he_o discuss_v the_o last_o distinction_n persecution_n for_o conscience_n be_v either_o for_o conscience_n right_o inform_v or_o a_o blind_a and_o erroneous_a conscience_n discusser_n both_o these_o conscience_n be_v indeed_o persecute_v but_o lamentable_o blind_a and_o erroneous_a will_v those_o conscience_n short_o appear_v to_o be_v which_o out_o of_o zeal_n to_o god_n as_o be_v pretend_v have_v persecute_v either_o etc._n etc._n defender_n this_o whole_a chapter_n may_v stand_v for_o we_o without_o impeachment_n we_o approve_v no_o persecution_n for_o conscience_n neither_o conscience_n right_o inform_v for_o that_o we_o account_v the_o persecute_v of_o christ_n nor_o conscience_n misinform_v with_o error_n unless_o the_o error_n be_v pernicious_a and_o unless_o the_o conscience_n be_v convince_v of_o the_o error_n and_o perniciousnesse_n thereof_o that_o so_o it_o may_v appear_v the_o erroneous_a party_n 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his_o conscience_n can_v never_o have_v blind_v he_o to_o commit_v out_o of_o any_o natural_a humane_a ignorance_n or_o infirmity_n but_o out_o of_o poenall_n and_o judicial_a blindness_n which_o god_n never_o leave_v man_n unto_o but_o upon_o habitual_a and_o customary_a sin_v against_o light_n of_o conscience_n chap._n 11._o a_o reply_n to_o his_o eleven_o chapter_n touch_v persecution_n for_o conscience_n right_o inform_v discusser_n after_o explication_n of_o the_o point_n in_o these_o former_a distinction_n the_o answerer_n of_o the_o letter_n give_v his_o resolution_n to_o the_o question_n in_o four_o particular_n 1._o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a to_o persecute_v any_o for_o conscience_n sake_n right_o inform_v for_o in_o persecute_v such_o christ_n himself_o be_v persecute_v act_v 9.4_o a_o man_n may_v as_o soon_o find_v darkness_n in_o the_o bright_a beam_n of_o the_o sun_n as_o in_o this_o clear_a beam_n of_o truth_n that_o christ_n jesus_n in_o his_o truth_n must_v not_o be_v persecute_v yet_o this_o i_o must_v ask_v for_o it_o will_v be_v admire_v by_o all_o sober_a man_n what_o shall_v be_v the_o cause_n or_o inducement_n to_o the_o answerers_n mind_n to_o lay_v down_o such_o a_o position_n or_o thesis_n as_o this_o be_v it_o be_v not_o lawful_a to_o persecute_v the_o lord_n jesus_n search_v all_o scripture_n history_n record_n monument_n consult_v with_o all_o experience_n do_v ever_o pharaoh_n saul_n ahab_n jezebel_n scribe_n and_o pharisee_n the_o jew_n herod_n the_o bloody_a nero_n gardiner_n bonner_n pope_n or_o devil_n himself_o profess_v to_o persecute_v the_o son_n of_o god_n jesus_n as_o jesus_n christ_n as_o christ_n without_o mask_n or_o cover_v defender_n it_o may_v seem_v though_o the_o truth_n be_v as_o clear_a as_o the_o beam_n of_o the_o sun_n yet_o the_o discusser_n can_v espy_v a_o moat_n of_o admirable_a weakness_n in_o the_o deliver_n of_o such_o a_o position_n though_o never_o so_o true_a or_o clear_a but_o let_v he_o cease_v his_o 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