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A62100 The Kings most gracious messages for peace and a personal treaty published for his peoples satisfaction, that they may see and judge, whether the foundation of the Commons declaration, touching their votes of no farther addresse to the King, viz His Majesties aversenesse to peace, be just rationall and religious. England and Wales. Sovereign (1625-1649 : Charles I); Symmons, Edward. 1648 (1648) Wing S6344; ESTC R669 99,517 147

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full power to act even as if He had been personally there but if He were suffered to be absent He would doubtlesse in His naturall Capacity be very mischievous to the Kingdome having such ill Councellours about Him as they said He had and such damned Cavaliers who as their preachers taught us to beleeve for good Doctrine were as bad as devills and whose very shape and faces the Lord in his judgement had already so altered that they did not now look like men as formerly but like strange horrid monsters So that God having set a visible mark of His vengeance upon them as He did on Cain our duty was and we were bound in Conscience to pursue them as Reprobates and as men cursed of God unlesse our selves would runne the hazard of that bitter Curse which was layed upon the Inhabitants of Meroz because they did not help the Lord against the Mighty After this manner they seduced us and led us too many of us to think ill of the King and of those that were Conscientious and faithfull unto Him Having thus consorted themselves with His Majesty in the Empire by their incroaching on His Authority and thus gulled us by this device of His Politick and naturall Capacity as if being arm'd or Authorized by the one we might destroy him in the other Which distinction we now understand since the returne of Reason to us to be but a meer vaporous Fancy a grosse Bull a very absurd Juggle invented by state Empericks to cheat silly people into disorder and disobedience And we are confident if we shall now goe about to pay them the interest of this their distinction and make it good upon themselves as indeed we ought to endeavour for in such a case onely it may goe for currant themselves would be directly of our opinion Should we but tell them that we consider of them two wayes in a Politick and in a Naturall capacity As they are in the first we honour and worship them we love them and regard them as they are members of the Body Politick Representative but by their favours in their naturall Capacity as they are men we intend to order and handle them as Rebels Traytors parricides fratricides thieves and murderers use to be dealt withall even according to Law and Justice and the due desert of their owne merits let them aske their own hearts whether in such a case and at such a time they will readily approve of it But hereby as we were saying they began to raise Forces in the name of King and Parliament and under that stile or rather Contradiction Commissions are issued Souldiers are levied and Taxes of divers sorts and unheard-of names imposed upon us the Kings Subjects to fight against and oppresse our King as we now perceive and to take His Regall power directly from Him for they are not ashamed now to publish in plain English before all the world that this Warre was undertaken to wrest the Militia and Legislative power from the King and His Posterity In the 64. pag. of their late Declaration against the Scots or concerning the Papers of the Scots Commissioners their words to this purpose are these The Kingdome of Scotland say they ingaged wi●h us in this war upon these Principles viz. for to have the Legislative power and the exercise of the Militia without and against the Kings consent If the Kingdome of Scotland did engage with them on these terms and for these ends as they now tell us yet we are confident that the people of England were better instructed then to do so for they had not so learned Christ who commands to give unto Caesar the things that are Caesars and not to take them away from Him We were here told of no other causes of the war then to maintain Protestant Religion established in this Church to defend the Kings Person Honour and Estate and to free Him from ill Counsellours and to preserve the Priviledges of Parliament the Laws of the Land and Liberties of the Subject and to bring Delinquents to punishment all which we were assured and that from the Pulpit too as well as from the Parliament and the Presse were lawfull causes for a War though now we see how we were abused in that also for Christian verity gives warrant to none of them unlesse withall we have the call and allowance of the Supream Authority Yea and besides how many times did these Declarers protest before all the world that it was not in their thoughts to loosen the reines of Government or to diminish any of the Kings rights no we professe said they in the sight of Almighty God which is the strongest obligation of a Christian c. that no ill Affection to His Majesties Person no designe to the prejudice of His just Honour and Authority ingaged us to raise Forces and to take up Armes And again We professe from our very hearts and souls our Loyalty and Obedience to His Crown our readinesse and resolution to defend His Person and support His estate with our lives and fortunes to the uttermost of our powers And again oftentimes God deal so by them as they intended to make Him terrible to His Enemies abroad and glorious among His friends at home c. And yet now they tell the world after all this that they ingaged at the very first in this War to have the Legislative power and the exercise of the Militia without and against the Kings consent and they say the Scots ingaged with them herein which we scarce believe for we know the Scots are too politick and wise a Nation then not to foresee their own damage if the Legislative power and the Militia of this Kingdome should be wrested out of the hands of the King their Country-man and Soveraign and put solely into the hands of those who have no such relations or Affections to them And beside the Scots Commissioners had said as these their opposers do alleage in the same page that they were obliged by their Covenant Allegiance and Duty of Subjects not to diminish but to support the Kings just Power and Greatnesse and therefore we have reason to believe they did not intend the Contrary at the beginning and the rather because these men say they did whom we never yet found true in any thing Indeed in Answer to that of the Scots Commissioners they affirm though without proof or reason that the King Contrary to His Oath had diminished the just Priviledges of Parliament and Liberties of the Subjects and how say they can He that breaks down the hedge complain of incroachment upon His severall so that the Kings pretended incroachment on them is now become a warrant for them to incroach really upon Him and to take away all His Kingly power from Him only because by their own sole testimony He had made a diminution of somewhat that belonged to them This is good Parliament Divinity as the world goes in these daies fetched sure out of
particulars so many evident prognosticks of their ruine and may they not be taken too as so many invitations from God to rouze up our selves against them and as so many intimations of His concurrence with us in such endeavours nay and 't is to be noted too when the Almighty for our encouragement and hope did begin thus to worke it was at such a time as these usurpers were at their greatest height when they cryed out with open mouth who is Lord over us ours is the power and we will prevaile When they had resolved to make no more Addresses to the King but to do as themselves pleased without Him and against Him Then then did our God awake as one out of sleepe then did he set himselfe against these men to confound them in their wayes and to expose them to this publike contempt and scorne of all And 't is Gods course if he once begins not to leave off till he hath made an end too Root and branch in a short time the spirit saies it branch and rush in one day Indeed the Lord hath been fitting them for their shame a great while He hath left them to themselves because they regarded not to know God or to please him He hath given them up to a reprobate sense as a punishment for their sin not to take notice of his hand going out against them threatning ruine and extirpation of them yea he hath blinded their eyes hardned their hearts to forsake their owne mercy He infatuated their spirits to loose those oportunities so frequently offered and to despise the profers of peace so often tendred whereby they might have been secured Now as pride goes before destruction so folly we know precedes a fall Undoubtedly the Lords purpose is to make them the astonishment of the world for confusion and misery as they have made themselves the amazement of the world for wickedness and impiety He will bring upon them all the blood which they have shed all the guilt thereof and so of all the blasphemies which they have vented he shall make them vomit up again all the wealth of others which they have swallowed according to their substance shall the restitution be for shall not the Iudge of all the earth when he takes the matter into his owne hand doe righteously never a persecutor or opressor never an Apostle or false Traytor never a Parliament Sheba or Pulpit Shimei of them all but shall meet with his due demerit from him who hath pronounced of them or of such as they be that they shall lie downe in sorrow And thus you see what hopes there be of your speedy deliverance O ye miserably oppressed English if you will now arise as one man and shew your selves you see how God is already gone out against your enemies How his Iustice is ingaged for you and doth march before to invite you to follow after And if you looke but on the other side you may see his mercy as manifestly appearing for your further incouragement How hath that gracious Prince whose servants you are not slaine but Conquered his thousand his ten thousand yea his hundred thousand of hearts and men and that not with sword or speare or any instrument of war but by they sole strength of Gods mighty spirit animating his soul in his great Afflictions and carrying him on high above the waters How hath He like the glorious Sun by the bright lusture of His Graces broake through all those black clouds of calumny and slander whereby these enemies of Majesty have laboured to obscure Him How hath He by his wisdome meekenesse patience and constant tenders of mercy to His greatest enemies recovered yea and overcome as Christ himself did the minds and affections of His people How hath His miseries for their sakes turned the streames of their love towards Him surely this is the Lords doing the victory is welnigh already won for us by Gods sole strength in the Person of our Soveraigne How doth their black mouth'd Balaams who for the wages of iniquity have spit out so much venome against His ●ajesty whom they never had more knowledge of then was brought unto them by His deadly enemies How do they now even gnash their teeth and gnaw their tongues for sorrow to here how His vertues are admired and His graces reverenc'd to feele how His splendour hath darkned them by causing their vilenesse to appear in dissipating the slanders and dissolving the filth which with so much paines and pulpit sweat they had laboured to bespatter him with seven years together And now are not these most evident markes of Gods favour to the King and that His mercies are also ingaged on His side as well as His Iustice and will be on yours if you are for Him 'T is true God hath seem'd to sleep long to the cause of His Annointed that the incredible and high wickednesse of the enemy might be known and the invisible or inward excellencies of the King seen but both these ends being now accomplished the time is fully come of Gods arising which will be the indoubted cause of His enemies scattering What therefore doth now remaine for you to do O English people but to make haste in the first place to fetch back your King to His Throne and Dignity in despight of those that keep Him Prisoner See see how the Ancient Britaines move already nay see how the Scots do promise to appear Have not you cause to thinke that they intend to plead with you as Iudah did with Israel for the Honour of the worke because the King is neer of kin to them but have not you ten parts in Him and so more right in this David now then they and reason to be as early in view unto this service assuredly though we gave the Scots leave to be the first in departing from duty yet we should all blush not to be at least as forward as they in returning to it nay we should all like good Christians and penitent men contend in love both with them and one another who shall be the formost And then let us all as one man conjoyne in this to require of our false Stewards a present account of their stewardships let 's resolve upon it that they shall no longer be stewards for us because they have made such waste of our goods and of what ever else was dear unto us and if they refuse to come to an account at such our call let 's force them to it full sore shall we sin against God and the whole Kingdome if we still permit them in their places we can doe no wrong in bringing them to a Legall triall which is the thing we must aime at if they have as they say defended the Law no doubt but the Law will defend them but if they have broaken or laboured to destroy that which they pretended to maintaine and were intrusted by us so to doe 't is but just and right that they by it
further in the sequele of their Declaration sith their modesty and truth is such in the first page of it Assuredly you cannot that conclude but this of theirs is the most groundlesse shamelesse malicious and impudent slander that ever was printed by such an Authority as is pretended against such a Person And a Lye pardon that Scotch word so grosse and so thick that like the darkenesse of Aegypt it may be felt O consider well of it you the Subjects of this Kingdome and rouze up your selves at length in the behalf of your Soveraign and of your selves remember the Honour and dignity of your forefathers the wisdome and valour that made them so famous and so feared O where where is the Auncient Gallantry of this Noble Nation where is that life courage that was wont to kindle and flame in English-men when they saw themselves esteemed simple and contemned as base and vile what is it all dead and buried in snow and cold Ashes shall it be thought that no sparks of it are yet remaining in your natures will you suffer servants alwaies to rule over you to inslave and inthrall both you and your King awake for shame or else for ever worthy to be despised and look about you bethink at length what you have to do Was ever Nation so gull'd as you have been so orereach'd by Cheaters did ever any who caried in their breasts the spirits of men delight to be so abused by their fellows to be made fools used like Asses and so accounted and will you affect it shall they who triumph over you think you alwaies Children without understanding surely had they not believed you as full of weaknesse still as themselves are of wickednesse they would not with that boldnesse have imagined to flam you off with so base a Narrative against your Soveraigne as if thereby they had given a satisfactory reason to your simplicities for all those wrongs which they have done Him And what do they aime at hereby but to make Him most odious and contemptible who of all men living deserves the greatest Reverence Love and Honour and why do they this but to the end that they might have some colour to destroy Him And will you Crucifie your King saies Pilate to the people of the Iews as if he had said what an unheard-of vilany will that be How doth the Curse cleave to that Nation for that act unto this very day so may it not be said to you O people of England will you murder your King will you suffer your most pious and gracious King after all these unspeakable abuses which He hath already indured for your sakes at the hands of your Servants or Representatives as they call themselves to be destroyed by them if you play the Iewes you shall be payed like Jewes you and your Posterity shall grone under the Curse of God and man for ever qui non vetat peccare cum potest jubet not to prevent a mischief when you may is directly to command it to be done As Absolom by going in to his Fathers Concubines on the house-top declared in the sight of all Israel that He meant the breach should be irreconcielable betwixt his Father and him so have these men by this their Declaration spoken loudly to all the world that their intentions are that the difference shall never be made up betwixt their Soveraign and themselves but indeed herein we may observe that their impudence doth far exceed Absoloms for while he was on the house-top committing his wickednesse he did not accuse the King his Father of the same sin or lay heavily to his charge that very evill which himself was then in acting as these men have done for they in their Declaration do burden their Soveraigne with their own faults they tax Him of those very things which themselves have committed and that not only heretofore when they were His ill Officers and Servants but even now are acting at this very instant time before our faces and upon our selves while they are exclaiming upon His Majesty And when should the King make Himself liable to all this blame and odium which they cast upon Him was it since they promised to make Him so glorious Themselves do not affirm this but as they pretend a great while before how comes it then to passe that in their present judgments He who was formerly deemed fit to be made the most glorious Prince in Christendome and promised so to be if He would but comply with them in those things that should be for His owne Honour and the Kingdomes good is now in their present judgments being still the same become worthy of so much hatred as is here manifested and not fit to have any more Addresses made unto Him bad are the memories of these men the change of their condition hath made them quite forget their former principles and professions what credit think you can be given henceforth unto them what confidence can be put in any of their promises is it not likely they will fail you who ere you be that trust them as they have done their Soveraigne nay have they not failed you enough already do you look they will ever repay that Mony with eight in the hundred interest which they took up of you in Publike Faiths name what speciall respect do you observe the City London and the adjoyning Associate Counties do now find from them for all that wealth countenance and assistance which hath been afforded to them doe not they like their owne father Satan exact most still from those whom they have found most compliable and most yeilding Nay more then this do they not now discover a manifest adherence to the schismaticall Army which they intitle the faithful Army against the City the Associate Counties the whole Kingdome and Scotland too as well as against the King have not some of the unsavory Aldermen Members of the Commons House gone senting up down of late and soliciting men to ingage themselves to live and die with the Parliament and the Army and against whom but King and Kingdome who it seems are now looked upon as one again and conjoyned though it be in the notion of Common Enemies by these good Counsellours these faithfull Representatives that broke the friendly union And what doth this new Ingagement speak unto you but that their intentions are to rule from henceforth by the Sword without all Law save that of war to keep you under You may remember at first 't was King and Parliament they cried up then Parliament and Kingdome but now at length 't is come to be the Parliament and the Army so that you see how unsetled they are how God hath made them like to a wheel in continuall motion and therefore no confidence is to be put in them They promise now that they will setle the Kingdome without the King who unsetled it but themselves and for what cause did they so but that themselves
our blessed Reformers Sure had they any Hope that the King were likely by impertinent discourses to Help their lame and barren cause with some advantages they would easily admit of a Treaty with Him what ere they say to the Contrary or did they imagine His Royall Pen could speak any thing but Innocency truth and Reason they would be content to hear from it upon this their further provocation of it but wholly despairing of such matters they have thought meet to imprison both Him and His Pen too which they know would in a moment cast down this idle Cobweb as it formerly hath done others of like nature and they think to stop all mens mouths by affirming the world well knows How fruitlesse their former Addresses have been to the King But though His Majesties Hands are thus tied this Spiders web must not scape brushing before it had Hung 3 daies an Honest broome reached at it a wholesome Antidote came out against it and made it appeare to be as it is fit onely for the draught or Dunghill and almost daily since some Loyall foot or other hath been trampling on it for Stones would surely move and stir in this case if men should not But sith none can speak so well as the King and He is voted to speak no more and sith their appeal is made to the worlds knowledge it shall not be amisse for the world to look back upon what the King hath said or done already even in Confutation of that here Charged upon Him scil His aversness unto Peace perhaps thereby alone it will sufficiently appear that of all sclaunderers which ever were these Declarers have deserved the name of the most impudent and most shamelesse We shall not need to look back so far as to the years 1642. 43. or call to mind His Majesties unwillingnesse to war at first His many Messages to prevent the same and to preserve peace before it was broken or to mention how scornfully they were entertained as effects only of His weakness instances of His want of power to make resistance Nor will we remember how by force of Arms they had kept him out of His town of Hull taken His Militia and Navy from Him and raised an Army against Him before He set up His Standerd in His own defence against them which His desire of Peace had prevailed with him to take down again and to recall his most just Declaration so that their unreverend and scandalous Libels against him might but likewise be recalled nor yet how in those daies his Messengers men of High Nobility and great Honour against whom they had nothing to object but that imployment were not suffered in person to declare their Message because it was for Peace but commanded to depart the town speedily Nor how at other times they imprisoned others that came to them on the same Errand how they often neglected to return Him any Answer at all or perhaps in lieu thereof after a moneths delay they would send Him a parcell of reproachfull expressions and peevish constructions of what He had writ in the sincerity of His heart and pity of Spirit for the insuing Miseries of His people which notwithstanding He would still interpret and call but mistakes that He might not exasperate if possible their ulcerated minds unto contention though in very deed they were no other then High Sclaunders studied Contempts Nor wil we call to mind how once in particular His earnest pressing for peace by a second and third Message before He had received Answer to a former did appear so intolerably offensive unto them that to teach Him to make an end of such motions and to prevent if it might be all further molestations from Him of that nature they fell the very next day after their receipt thereof having first committed His Messenger to accuse His Majesties Royall Consort of High Treason But these things at so large a distance we need not remember nor how his Majesty after the often frustration of such His own endevours for Peace did convene the loyall Lords and Commons at Oxford to consult of a way to procure that desired blessing how they laboured in vain about the same and had their Letters which they sent to that end cryed up and down London streets in scorn under the Title of a Petition of the Prince of Wales and Duke of Yorke for Peace How in answer thereto Papers full of Treason sedition and disloyalty were sent unto them together with that unlawfull Covenant which now themselves deride at as an Almanacke of last year or occasionall trick devised at the present to cheat the Kingdome for His Majesty and all in Oxford to take nor need we remember how all those Noble and Loyall men did under their Hands attest to all the world His Majesties earnest longings to have a period put to these unkind divisions which Himself also by his Actions did alwaies confirm whose constant course it was at the end of any Victory got by him or any remarkable defeat given to them to send forth His Proclamations of Mercy and tenders of pardon which are still extant in many hands on Condition they would but at length be quiet and imbrace peace which they would never consent unto unlesse He would also yeild to Justifie their Iealousies and to condemn Himself as guilty of all they had Charged upon Him And 't is well enough known that when ever He procured to have a Treaty with them which was but seldome His Propositions were so much tending to their advantage and his owne damage that nothing disliked them more then His moderation which indeed was the true cause of their continuall backwardnesse unto Treaties and also of their strict Limitations to their Commissioners when with much adoe they were obtained as is evident enough by the passages of that at Vxbridge for they supposing the reasonablenesse of what they knew His Majesty desired and the unreasonablenesse of what themselves intended to aske would be so apparent by a free and open discussion that a Peace thereby might happily be produced in despight of them wherefore their care was to prevent if they could any Treaties at all or else by devises to break them off before they came to any perfection and then they would with all speed make a Declaration to the world wherein they would pretend fully to shew that His Majesties demands had neither Reason nor Iustice either in the matter or manner of them but were such as left the people no Hopes to see an End of their present Calamities But as was said we shall not need to look back so far for Helps to overthrow the Groundwork of this their false building we shall onely remember the meanes used by His Majesty for Peace since His peoples Calamities are confessed without dispute to be solely continued by these Declarers since the power hath been wholly in their Hands and few or no forces pretending for the King in
who from hence may observe that no rudenesse or insolency towards Him nor unjust aspersions of Him are able to divert Him from pursuing the means of their welfare His words are these His Majesties seventh Message CHARLS R. THe procuring Peace to these Kingdoms by Treaty is so much desired by His Majesty that no unjust aspersions whatsoever or any other discouragements shall make Him desist from doing His endevour therein untill He shall see it altogether impossible and therefore hath thought fitting so far only to make reply to that Paper or Answer which He hath received of the 13 of this instant Ian. as may take away those Objections which are made against His Majesties coming to Westminster expecting still an Answer to His Messages of the 15 and 17. which He hopes by this time have begotten better thoughts and resolutions in the Members of both Houses And first therefore Whereas in the said last Paper it is objected as an impediment to His Majesties personal Treaty that much innocent bloud hath been shed in this War by His Majesties Commissions c. He will not now dispute it being apparent to all the World by whom this bloud hath been spilt but rather presseth that there should be no more and to that end only He hath desired this personall Treaty as judging it the most immediate means to abolish so many horrid confusions in all His Kingdoms And it is no argument to say That there shall be no such personall Treaty because there have been Wars it being a strong inducement to have such a Treaty to put an end to the War Secondly that there should be no such personall Treaty because some of His Irish Subjects have repaired to His assistance in it seems an argument altogether as strange as the other as alwaies urging that there should be no Physick because the party is sick And in this particular it hath been often observed unto them that those whom they call Irish who have so expressed their Loyalty to their Soveraigne were indeed for the most part such English Protestants as had been formerly sent into Ireland by the two Houses impossibilitated to stay there any longer by the neglect of those that sent them thither who should there have better provided for them And for any Forrain forces it is too apparent that their Armies have swarmed with them when His Majesty hath had very few or none And whereas for a third impediment it is alleaged that the Prince is in the head of an Army in the West and that there are divers Garrisons stil kept in his Majesties obedience that there are Forces in Scotland it must be as much confessed as that as yet there is no peace and therefore it is desired that by such a personall Treaty all these impediments may be removed And it is not here amisse to put them in mind how long since His Majesty did presse a disbanding of all Forces on both sides the refusing whereof hath been the cause of this objection And whereas exception is taken that there is a time limited in the Proposition for His Majesties personall Treaty thereupon inferring that He should again return to Hostility His Majesty protesteth that He seeks this Treaty to avoid future Hostility and to procure a lasting peace and if He can meet with like inclinations to Peace in those He desires to Treat with He will bring such affections and resolutions in Himself as shal end all these unhappy bloudy differences As for those ingagements which His Majesty hath desired for His security whosoever shall call to mind the particular occasions that enforced His Majesty to leave His City of London and Westminster will judge His demand very reasonable and necessary for His safety But He no way conceiveth how the L. Major Aldermen Common-Councell and Militia of London were either subject or subordinate to that Authority which is alleaged as knowing neither Law nor practice for it and if the two Armies be He believes it is more then can be parallel'd by any former times in this Kingdom Nor can His Majesty understand how His Majesties seeking of a Personall Security can be any breach of Priviledge it being likely to be infringed by hindering His Majesty from coming freely to His two Houses As for the Objection that His Majesty omitted to mention the setling Religion and securing the Peace of His Native Kingdom His Majesty declares that He conceives that it was included in His former and hath been particularly mentioned in his latter Message of the 15 present But for their better satisfaction he again expresseth that it was and ever shal be both his meaning and endevour in this Treaty desired and it seems to him very clear that there is no way for a finall ending of such distractions as afflict this Kingdom but either by Treaty or Conquest the latter of which his Majesty hopes none will have the impudency or impiety to wish for and for the former if his Personall assistance in it be not the most likely way let any reasonable man judge when by that means not only all unnecessary delaies will be removed but even the greatest difficulties made easie And therefore he doth now again earnestly insist upon that proposition expecting to have a better answer upon mature consideration And can it be imagined that any Propositions will be so effectuall being formed before a personall Treaty as such as are framed and propounded upon a full debate on both sides Wherefore his Majesty who is most concerned in the good of his People and is most desirous to restore peace and happinesse to his three Kingdoms doth again instantly desire an Answer to his said former Messages to which he hath hitherto received none Given at our Court at Oxon the 24. of Jan. 1645. To the Speaker of the House of Peers pro tempore to be communicated to the two Houses of Parliament at Westminster and to the Commissioners of the Parliament of Scotland FEw that ventured their lives to fetch home the King at the instigation of these men or that heard their Preachers pray so oft that God would incline His Majesties heart to come unto His Parliament would ever have believed that He should thus be put to plead for His own admittance amongst them who pretended to be so fond of His Company or to Answer such cavils against the same as He hath here done if they had not seen them objected under their own Hands nor would any have been perswaded had there not been somewhat extant to evidence the same that these men could after all this have affirmed that themselves had yeilded up not only their wills and Affections but also their reason and judgment for obtaining a good Accommodation with the King but now 't is manifest who they are that have abused gulled and deceived the world and who have been the only obstructers unto Peace and most perfect Enemies thereunto And yet 't is no mervaile that the wickednesse of these
themselves were many and had imployed all their craft which was not little 8 Months together as they pretended in the framing of them yet were perswaded as it seems that His Majesty alone in regard of His clear wisdome sincerity and honesty of Heart was able in three or four dayes to Answer them fully and therefore they assigned him no longer time to deliberate on them or else they supposed that His Maj. in His eagernesse of minde to obtain Peace so oft earnestly writ for by Him would blindly and suddainly consent without more adoe to what ever on that condition they asked of Him for as crafty Chapmen will enhaunse the price beyond all reason of that Commodity they have to sell when they see a Customer fond of it so did these men deal with their King He had fully manifested a most fervent desire of procuring quiet to His people by His many Messages large Offers wherein He had shewed a readinesse to yeild up His own Rights or to speak in their phrase His will and Affections yea and His Reason and Iudgement too for the purchase of it So it were reall and good Whereupon perhaps they fancied that He would not stick to resigne up His Conscience also upon their demand together with the Rights of His Crown to which He was born and the trust committed to Him by God and the Law over the lives and Estates of all His Subjects into those Hands which have been excercised in nothing this seven years but Bloud Rapine and Oppression without any probability of recovering the same againe to Himselfe or His successors For indeed they are now come to that pitch of the pinacle that unlesse the King will condescend to cast Himself down to destroy himself and to ruine Monarchy no concessions of His shall please them nor shall his many Messages and large offers obtaine peace from them unto his people who may themselves judge of what kinde it would be by that experience they have had of them already if the King should yeild so far as to lay down his life and Crown for the purchase But God be thanked our King is no Child nor false Shepherd but a man after Gods own Heart and a very Moses though meeke and patient to admiration in his own case throughout all his dealings with this stif-necked and rebellious generation yet most valiant and magnanimous in the Cause of God and most faithfull in the dicharge of that trust reposed in Him our Saviour would rather suffer himself to be no Man then yeild himself to be no King he would rather part with his life then his Kingship and so will our Soveraign and therefore our God we trust will preserve both for the further Happinesse yet of this Church and Nation But let 's observe His Majesties goodnesse towards these men in this His Message or Answer to their Propositions He was ashamed as seemeth that the world should take full notice of their impiety and unreasonablenesse in them and therefore was pleased to shadow the same in a measure from the worlds eye by impleading the difficulty of understanding the said Propositions for want of necessary explanations as if there had been or might haply be more Iustice and Reason in them then was apparent when indeed there was more mischeife then could be easily beleeved And this he alledgeth as the cause of his not returning particular Answers to them and in truth there is much ambiguity and darknesse in them which the Contrivers were studious and carefull to leave in their composing of them that thereby themselves might still have evasions and occasions to raise cavills what ever His Majesties Answer should be unto them to which end also they were provident to Bind up their Commissioners tongues from speaking any such word in way of discourse as might discover to the King their further meanings Wherefore his Majesty finding it impossible to returne such a plenary Answer as in His Conscience might be justifiable in Gods sight or conductive to a safe and well-grounded peace he proposeth again his own comming to London to treat with them and for the avoiding of all mistakes to hear them explaine their own meanings and ingages himself to give his cheerfull assent to all such Bills as shall be really to the good and peace of His people and to prefer the Happinesse of this Kingdome before His own particular and as a mean to work a confidence in them of His own sincerity in these things he offers again to trust them with no lesse then his own Person and conjures them as they are Christians as they are Subjects and as they are men who desire to leave a good name behinde them so to receive make use of this His Answer that all issues of Bloud may be stopped and these unhappy distractions peaceably setled But as appears neither the Dignity of Christians the Duty of Subjects nor the Credit of a good Name will prevaile with them any more then his Majesties former Messages and Intreaties had done for they had as it seemes renounced and rejected them all before hand and therefore without taking any notice of this Conjuration of their Soveraign or of any thing else which he had writ unto them in the whole Message they go on silently and resolutely in that way which themselves had chosen which His Majesty observing after some months patient expectance bent His thoughts to the making some particular Answers to the fore-mentioned Propositions desiring if possible to give them content but upon His most serious consideration on them He found that He did but labour in vain for He could not speak so unto them but some who lay in wait for that purpose would mis-construe and pervert His sayings to a contrary sence unlesse Himself were present among them to paraphrase upon his owne words and explain His meaning wherefore He hoping that Gods grace and spirit might at last peradventure have some footing in their minds He rather chuseth to propose again by another Message five months after the former His own coming unto them and renues His former offers discovering thereby that notwithstanding their transcendent neglects and contempts of Him yet He was still as constant in His good intentions to them as they were in their ill resolutions against Him His words are these His Majesties thirteenth Message CHARLS R. HIs Majesties thoughts being alwaies sincerely bent to the Peace of His Kingdoms was will be ever desirous to take all waies which might the most cleerly make appear the candour of His intentions to His people And to this end could find no better way then to propose a Personall free debate with His two Houses of Parliament upon all the present differences Yet finding very much against His expectations that this offer was laid aside His Majesty bent all His thoughts to make His intentions fully known by a particular Answer to the Propositions delivered to Him in the name of both Kingdomes 24.
and to devise a prevention of this three years confirmation lest they should feel the lash so long and be kept under worse then an Aegyptian Bondage and in order to this they began to find fault as there was cause at the Presbyterians ill usage of the King for they indeed were His chief Tormenters at Holdenby Master Marshall and his fellow-Minister being then also of that faction because at that time it was the most prevailing they exclaimed on them for handling His Majesty so hardly in keeping Him as a Prisoner denying Him the freedome of His Conscience and service of His Chaplains they remembred also with much regret of spirit as then seemed the wicked tenents of Buchanan Knox and others the erectors and propugnators of the Presbyterian Discipline in Scotland about excommunicating deposing arraigning and killing Princes and their practices against Iames his Grand-mother his Mother and himself in his Infancy and they did plainly observe as themselves said by the carriages of these Presbyterians towards His Majesty at this present that they resolved to tread in the same steps as their predecessours had done before notwithstanding their so many solemn professions and protestations to the Contrary And hereupon they said they thought it their duty according to their first ingagement in this war to bring the King to His Parliament with Safety and Honour that He might injoy the just rights of His Crown as well as of His Conscience largely promising and protesting to be instruments of the same to the content of His Majesty and the whole Kingdome and upon these pretences the King was delivered by them from that particular thraldome at Holdenby And afterward brought with the applause and joy of His people to His Manour of Hampton where His Servants and Chaplains at first were allowed accesse to Him and many of His Subjects permitted to glad their hearts with the sight of Him And this gleame of prosperity blazed well till the Houses were thinned of the chief Heads of the contrary faction for in very deed all this was done to another end then was pretended and ordered by other Councels then yet appeared it being the nature of some men to envy that any should be more injurious then themselves or have a greater hand in acting evill then they There were in the Houses and elswhere some Grandees as they are since called that were ambitious of ingrossing the sole power over King and Kingdom which others as yet had as large a share in managing of if not a larger then themselves to exclude whom they made use of the Independent humour in the inferiour Officers and Souldiers layed the plot for them in that manner as it was acted secretly provoked them to the undertaking and countenanced them in it when it was done by pretending to be of their Religion clouding their maine Designe all the while from the body of the Army whom they set a work to make certaine Proposals partly in their owne behalf and partly tending to those things which had been promised to the King while themselves in the interim were dressing or making ready to act the very same part which those they disliked had done before and had been thus intermitted for a season till those others were ejected or cast over-board for the very same Propositions in Effect that had formerly assaulted His Majesty at Newcastle and were answered by Him from Holdenby as we have seen are to renew His trouble remitted to Him which His Majesty returns Answer unto in these words His Majesties seventeenth Message His Majesties most gracious Answer to the Propositions presented to Him at Hampton-Court CHARLS R. HIs Majesty cannot chuse but be passionately sensible as He believes all His good Subjects are of the late great distractions and still languishing and unsetled state of this Kingdome and He calls God to witnesse and is willing to give testimony to all the world of His readinesse to contribute His utmost endevours for restoring it to a happy and flourishing condition His Majesty having perused the Propositions now brought to Him finds them the same in effect which were offered to Him at Newcastle To some of which as He could not then consent without violation of His Conscience and Honour So neither can He agree to others now conceiving them in many respects more disagreeable to the present condition of affairs then when they were formerly presented unto Him as being destructive to the main principall Interests of the Army and of all those whose Affections concur with them And His Majesty having seen the Proposals of the Army to the Commissioners from His two Houses residing with them and with them to be treated on in order to the clearing and securing of the Rights and Liberties of the Kingdome and the setling of a just and lasting Peace To which Proposals as He conceives His two Houses not to be strangers So He believes they will think with Him that they much more conduce to the satisfaction of all Interests and may be a fitter foundation for a lasting Peace then the Propositions which at this time are tendred unto Him He therefore propounds as the best way in His judgment in order to a Peace That His two Houses would instantly take into consideration those Proposals upon which there may be a Personall Treaty with His Majesty and upon such other Propositions as his Majesty shal make hoping that the said Propositions may be so moderated in the said Treaty as to render them the more capable of his Majesties full concession Wherein He resolves to give full satisfaction to His people for whatsoever shall concern the setling of the Protestant Profession with liberty to tender Consciences and the securing of the Laws Liberties and Properties of all His Subjects and the just Priviledges of Parliaments for the future and likewise by His present deportment in this Treaty He will make the world clearly judge of his intentions in matters of future Government In which Treaty His Majesty will be well pleased if it be thought fit that Commissioners from the Army whose the Proposals are may likewise be admitted His Majesty therefore conjures his two Houses of Parliament by the duty they owe to God and his Majesty their King and by the bowels of compassion they have to their fellow-subjects both for the relief of their present sufferings to prevent future miseries that they will forthwith accept of this his Majesties Offer whereby the joyfull newes of Peace may be restored to this distressed Kingdome And for what concerns the Kingdome of Scotland mentioned in the Propositions his Majesty will very willingly Treat upon those particulars with the Scotch Commissioners and doubts not but to give reasonable satisfaction to that his Kingdome At Hampton-court the 9. of Septemb. 1647. For the Speaker of the House of Peers pro tempore to be communicated c. It appeares by this Message of His Majestie and more fully by the Propositions themselves which it relates unto that
the manner of Addresse which is now made unto Him Unlesse his two Houses intend that his Majesty shall allow of a Great Seal made without his Authority before there be any consideration had thereupon in a Treaty Which as it may hereafter hazard the security it self so for the present it seems very unreasonable to his Majesty And though his Majesty is willing to believe that the intention of very many in both Houses in sending these Bils before a Treaty was only to obtain a trust from Him and not to take any advantage by passing them to force other things from Him which are either against His Conscience or Honour Yet his Majesty believes it clear to all understandings that these Bils contain as they are now penned not only the devesting Himself of all Soveraignty and that without possibility of recovering it either to Him or his Successours except by repeal of those Bils but also the making his Concessions guilty of the greatest pressures that can be made upon the Subject as in other particulars so by giving an Arbitrary and Vnlimited power to the two Houses for ever to raise and levie Forces for Land or Sea service of what persons without distinction or quality and to what numbers they please And likewise for the payment of them to levy what Monies in such sort and by such waies and means and consequently upon the Estates of whatsoever Persons they shall think fit appoint Which is utterly inconsistent with the Liberty Property of the Subject and his Majesties trust in protecting them So that if the Major part of both Houses shall think it necessary to put the rest of the Propositions into Bils His Majesty leaves all the world to judge how unsafe it would be for Him to consent thereunto And if not what a strange condition after the passing of these four Bils his Majesty and all his Subjects would be cast into And here his Majesty thinks it not unfit to wish his two Houses to consider well the manner of their proceeding That when his Majesty desires a Personall Treaty with them for the setling of a Peace they in answer propose the very subject matter of the most essentiall part thereof to be first granted A thing which will be hardly credible to Posterity Wherefore his Majesty declares That neither the desire of being freed from this tedious and irksome condition of life his Majesty hath so long suffered nor the apprehension of what may befall him in case his two Houses shal not afford him a Personal Treaty shall make him change his resolution of not consenting to any Act till the whole Peace be concluded Yet then he intends not only to give just and reasonable satisfaction in the particulars presented to him but also to make good all other Concessions mentioned in his Message of the 16. of Novemb. last Which he thought would have produced better effects then what he finds in the Bils and Propositions now presented unto him And yet his Majesty cannot give over but now again earnestly presseth for a Personal Treaty so passionately is he affected with the advantages which Peace wil bring to his Majesty and all his Subjects of which he will not at all despair there being no other visible way to obtain a wel-grounded Peace However his Majesty is very much at ease within himself for having fulfilled the offices both of a Christian and of a King and will patiently wait the good pleasure of Almighty God to incline the hearts of his two Houses to consider their King and to compassionate their fellow Subjects miseries Given at Carisbrook-Castle in the Isle of Wight Decemb. 28. 1647. For the Speaker of the Lords House pro tempore to be communicated to the Lords and Commons in the Parliament of England at Westminster and the Commissioners of the Parliament of Scotland HIs Majesties Afflictions have been much increased by manifesting His care as an equall Father that satisfaction might be given to all ingaged interests therefore Presbyterians Independents Army Scots and all whoever they be that acknowledge a part in them and remain yet unsatisfied have reason as Christians as Subjects as men for meer gratitude sake were there no other reason to endeavour the vindication of those wrongs at least which His Majesty hath suffered since He stood forth as their Common Advocate To prevent their Audience upon the Kings motion were these Bills devised and sent in this sort unto His Majesty And for His not consenting so far to their damage and to the undoing of all the rest of His Subjects as these Bils required was His Majesty cast into a more hard and miserable Condition by some degrees then ever before having all His Servants on the sodain by violence thrust out from Him not so much as one of His Divines allowed unto Him Himself confined to two or three Roomes within the walls of a loathed Prison assaulted frequently He is with evil language and tormented with the spightfull behaviours of the Enemy permitted to see or speak to none but rude Souldiers who are set to watch Him and whom He hath hourly cause to look upon as Assassinates appointed for to murder Him His friends are not suffered to write unto Him nor His Children to send the remembrance of their duties yet His Trunks and Pockets are often searched for Letters with the highest insolency and rudenesse that can be shewn And all this with much more of like nature then can be expressed is come upon Him as it seemeth for moving in the behalf of all ingaged interests and therefore most truly did His Majesty in the Beginning of this Message say for He hath felt it since that He found the complying with all ingaged interests in these great distempers none of the least difficulties He met withall since the time of His Afflictions and therefore also as was said before were there no other cause they are all bound to ingage for Him till they have set Him free from His present Thraldome And indeed the Scotch Commissioners for their parts began well in their protesting in the name of their whole Kingdome against those unreasonable Bils at the same time that they were by the English Commissioners presented to His Majesty as being prejudiciall to Religio● to the Crown to the union and interest of both Nations and directly different from their former mutuall proceedings and ingagements now His Majesty for taking notice of this which was uttered in His presence and in the name of a whole Kingdome is extreamly quarrelled at and because He did not signe the said Bils notwithstanding the said protest He is immediately made close Prisoner and sensible of more then barbarous usage the Method of which is in part expressed in the following Declaration which twenty daies after His close confinement was written by His Majesties own hand and some twenty daies aft●r that by the speciall order and providence of him who is the preserver of Princes brought to light
the power of the sword it shall be opposed affronted resisted their summons scorned their Messengers kicked about the streets their Votes and Iudgments derided A mock-Authority indeed that is and a mock-Parliament too that disclaims Him from whom it self derives its being and to whom God and the Law hath committed the power of the Sword We have had heretofore many Parliaments but never read or heard of any while they kept their integrity and adhered to their maker that conven'd them together who were ever opposed affronted resisted or had any of their summons scorned their Messengers kicked about the streets or their Votes and Iudgements derided therefore all this is but copia verborum some flowers of Rebellious Rhetorick whereby they thinke to keep silly fools such as they take us still to be in that vile Captivity unto themselves wherein they formerly had and led us Yea and pag. 73. of that their so bonny Declaration they tell us to the everlasting comfort both of us and of our purses that t is necessary that their Armies be kept still on foot even so long as themselves and their posterities shall fit which they make account shall be but in perpetuum from Generation to Generation till the worlds end their words are these for the Parliaments consulting freely and acting securely it will be necessary as we have ever done since the war to keep up forces which were they all disbanded as the Scotch Commissioners desire we should not long consult freely and act securely They mean sure in cutting our throats in banishing imprisoning and hanging our persons in sequestring our estates in oppressing plundering and taking from us our goods and fortunes in destroying our Religion peace and order for nothing else do we know they have consulted about or acted since they first raised their Forces or begun their war we have had Parliaments before now that have behaved themselves a great deale better then these Declarers have done that have consulted better and acted better every way and yet never thought it necessary either to raise or keep up Forces for their owne guard or safety No for they were fenc'd with Innocency and Noblenesse of Spirit with their owne uprightnesse and their Countries Love which together with the Guard of God and his Angels was their Protection they desired no other Militia then Faith and a good Conscience to secure them For why they had never bath'd themselves in their Countries bloud nor foul'd their hands with oppression nor any way deserved the odium of their Nation But these men shew what they have merited by their fears and discover that as they raised Forces at first to subdue the King so they intend now to keep them up to subdue the Kingdome and to keep those in low slavery whose help they have had against Him and so they will pay their servants for as such onely they account those whom they have imployed or made use of a la mode du diable in that manner as Satan rewards those that work for him And now the world sees at last who began the war at first and hears from them who know best what was the true cause thereof even to wrest the Legislative power and the Militia out of the Kings hands and to excercise the same without and against His consent How true their former clamours have been that the King first tooke up Armes against the Parliament and that the Parliament was only on the defensive part let the very seduced part of men now judge His sacred Majesty in his great wisdome saw this to be their end at first and told the world of it but could not be heard or beleeved so loud a noise was made to the contrary themselves in the 68. pag. of that their Declaration tell the Scotch Commissioners who had said it was contrary to their judgements and Oath of Allegeance to divest the Crown the King and His Posterity of the right and power of the Militia that they fortifie their opinion with the very same Arguments and almost in the very same words as the King did at the beginning of this war in His Declarations whereby they acknowleged that His Majesty even then had spoken to that purpose It is hoped therefore that all men doe now apprehend who they are that all this while have been the Deceivers Againe the world also hath now seen how far and wherein His Majesty hath been averse to peace since the beginning of the war He would not hitherto be either forced or perswaded to resigne up wholly and for ever unto them that which from the very first they resolved to have from Him the Legislative power and the Militia of the Kingdome to be exercised without and against Himself to the perpetual enslavement and thraldome of all us His poor Subjects whom God hath committed to his trust to protect and defend And therefore if it were lawfull for Subjects upon any occasion to imprison their King yet what great cause or substantiall reason these have had to do so or to use their Soveraigne as they have done to resolve to make no more addresses or applications to Him let the world judge And from these many gracious Messages of His Majesty for peace thus slighted contemned and despised by them let their little modesty and candour or rather their great shamelesnesse and impudency be observed in their making the foundation of their impious Votes to be His aversenesse unto peace and in beginning their Declaration against Him in that manner as they have done viz. in these words How fruitlesse our former Addresses have been to the King is so well known to the world that it may be expected we shall now declare why we made the last or so many before rather then why we are resolved to make no more We cannot acknowledge any great confidence that our words could have been more perswasive with Him then Sighs and groanes the Tears and crying Blood an heavy crie the Blood of Fathers Brothers and Children at onse the Blood of many hundred thousand Free-borne Subjects in Three great Kingdomes which cruelty it self could not but pity to destroy We must not be so unthankefull to God as to forget we were never forced to any Treaty and yet we have no lesse then seven times made such Applications to the King and tendred such Propositions that might occasion the world to judge we have not onely yeelded up our wils and Affections but our Reason also and judgement for obtaining any true Peace or Accommodation But it never yet pleased the King to accept of any Tender fit for us to make nor yet to offer any fit for us to receive Be judges in this case O all ye people of the World now you have read and seen what offers and tenders the King hath made what reason these men had thus to ' peale Him thinke you not they are men of credit worthy to be trusted another time fit to be beleeved in all they say