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A20031 A true, modest, and iust defence of the petition for reformation, exhibited to the Kings most excellent Maiestie Containing an answere to the confutation published under the names of some of the Vniuersitie of Oxford. Together vvith a full declaration out of the Scriptures, and practise of the primitiue Church, of the severall points of the said petition. Sprint, John, d. 1623. Anatomy of the controversed ceremonies of the church of England. 1618 (1618) STC 6469; ESTC S119326 135,310 312

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oath_n ibid._n leg_n 9_o 2._o this_o oath_n be_v minister_v propter_fw-la inopiam_fw-la probationum_fw-la where_o other_o proof_n fail_v cod._n lib._n 4._o tit_n 1._o leg_n 3._o and_o the_o canon_n law_n say_v in_o ipso_fw-la causae_fw-la initio_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la à_fw-la quaestionibus_fw-la inchoandum_fw-la they_o must_v not_o begin_v in_o the_o entrance_n of_o the_o suit_n with_o question_n so_o in_o the_o case_n of_o jealousy_n between_o man_n and_o wife_n where_o no_o other_o evidence_n be_v the_o woman_n be_v charge_v with_o a_o oath_n or_o execration_n numb_a 5._o 21._o but_o now_o a_o man_n convent_v be_v first_o put_v to_o his_o oath_n though_o other_o profess_v be_v at_o hand_n 3._o where_o one_o be_v press_v with_o this_o oath_n a_o party_n and_o accuser_n shall_v be_v give_v that_o he_o which_o be_v accuse_v may_v refer_v juramentum_fw-la may_v have_v liberty_n to_o return_v the_o like_a oath_n upon_o his_o accuser_n cod._n lib._n 4._o tit_n 1._o leg_n 9_o justinian_n 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apt_a to_o teach_v 8._o and_o that_o it_o be_v a_o punishment_n send_v of_o god_n to_o have_v unskilful_a shepherd_n 9_o and_o all_o who_o christ_n send_v he_o furnish_v with_o gift_n 10._o see_v by_o the_o canon_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n such_o unsufficient_a minister_n be_v condemn_v see_v nothing_o can_v be_v object_v in_o the_o contrary_a of_o any_o moment_n 1._o ob._n that_o although_o there_o be_v diverse_a gift_n yet_o every_o pastor_n ought_v to_o have_v they_o in_o some_o measure_n 2_o obj._n neither_o be_v there_o any_o pastor_n in_o the_o primitive_a church_n no_o preacher_n 3._o neither_o be_v it_o a_o thing_n impossible_a to_o have_v every_o where_o sufficient_a pastor_n we_o be_v persuade_v that_o your_o christian_a majesty_n out_o of_o your_o princely_a judgement_n will_v in_o due_a time_n see_v the_o church_n reform_v in_o this_o point_n and_o therein_o follow_v the_o example_n of_o that_o noble_a charles_n king_n of_o france_n who_o enact_v thus_o providimus_fw-la pro_fw-la aedificatione_n omnium_fw-la ecclesiarum_fw-la etc._n etc._n we_o have_v provide_v for_o the_o edify_n of_o all_o church_n that_o not_o only_o in_o city_n but_o in_o all_o parish_n the_o presbyter_n 10_o synod_n arelat_n sub_fw-la carolo_n cause_n 10_o preach_v the_o word_n to_o the_o people_n that_o they_o may_v learn_v to_o live_v well_o etc._n etc._n artic_a 2._o of_o the_o remove_n or_o supply_v of_o unlearned_a minister_n 1._o object_n how_o charitable_a be_v these_o man_n that_o will_v have_v man_n remove_v out_o of_o the_o ministry_n etc._n etc._n answ_n 1._o how_o can_v the_o petitioner_n be_v count_v uncharitable_a when_o they_o wish_v some_o charitable_a course_n to_o be_v take_v for_o the_o relief_n of_o unsufficient_a minister_n neither_o be_v it_o propound_v simple_o but_o with_o a_o disjunction_n or_o else_o that_o they_o be_v force_v to_o maintain_v preacher_n according_a to_o the_o value_n of_o their_o live_n etc._n etc._n and_o we_o pray_v 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3._o not_o eat_v or_o what_o think_v you_o of_o these_o ancient_a canon_n peregrini_fw-la presbyteri_fw-la si_fw-la praedicatores_fw-la sint_fw-la veritatis_fw-la suscipiantur_fw-la sin_n minus_fw-la ne_fw-la necessaria_fw-la subministrentur_fw-la eye_n can._n apost_n 34._o episcopus_fw-la vel_fw-la presbyter_n etc._n etc._n si_fw-la in_o pielate_fw-la populum_fw-la non_fw-la erudit_fw-la a_o communione_n segregetur_fw-la si_fw-la in_o ea_fw-la socordia_fw-la perseveraverit_fw-la deponitur_fw-la can_n 57_o so_o be_v it_o also_o decree_v in_o the_o council_n of_o oxford_n si_fw-la residere_fw-la noluerint_fw-la cum_fw-la non_fw-la nisi_fw-la laborantibus_fw-la panis_fw-la dandus_fw-la sit_fw-la ecclesijs_fw-la per_fw-la episcopum_fw-la spolientur_fw-la say_v also_o that_o they_o be_v uncharitable_a that_o thus_o decree_v that_o unpreach_v minister_n shall_v not_o be_v relieve_v that_o they_o be_v put_v from_o the_o communion_n and_o final_o if_o they_o continue_v in_o their_o idleness_n 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absolute_o unlawful_a etc._n etc._n neither_o have_v be_v prove_v or_o ever_o will_v etc._n etc._n answ_n absence_n from_o the_o flock_n for_o a_o time_n upon_o necessary_a occasion_n be_v permit_v both_o by_o the_o scripture_n and_o by_o the_o ancient_a canon_n as_o 1._o for_o the_o service_n of_o the_o church_n as_o paul_n say_v bring_v mark_v with_o thou_o for_o he_o be_v profitable_a unto_o i_o to_o minister_v flock_n in_o what_o case_n the_o pastor_n absence_n be_v permit_v for_o a_o time_n from_o his_o flock_n 2._o tim._n 4._o 11._o so_o ambrose_n paucorum_fw-la dierum_fw-la occupatione_fw-la detentus_fw-la etc._n etc._n be_v detain_v ā_o few_o day_n call_v away_o by_o the_o necessity_n of_o another_o church_n i_o have_v be_v absent_a from_o your_o assembly_n ser._n 28._o pro_fw-la servitijs_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la etc._n etc._n a_o man_n may_v be_v absent_a for_o the_o service_n of_o the_o church_n as_o be_v present_a at_o counsel_n dispute_v against_o heretic_n and_o such_o like_a decret_n greg._n lib._n 3._o tit_n 4._o cap._n 13._o 2._o when_o the_o flock_n itself_o do_v pursue_v their_o pastor_n si_fw-mi quis_fw-la plebis_fw-la etc._n etc._n if_o any_o man_n be_v absent_a because_o of_o the_o opposition_n of_o his_o people_n antioch_n can_v 18._o in_o this_o case_n paul_n shake_v off_o the_o dust_n of_o his_o foot_n against_o the_o jew_n and_o turn_v to_o the_o gentile_n act._n 13._o 46._o but_o it_o be_v not_o the_o stubburnesse_n of_o a_o few_o that_o shall_v make_v a_o man_n leave_v his_o flock_n as_o augustine_n excellent_o show_v thou_o will_v say_v feci_fw-la omne_fw-la nihil_fw-la i_o video_fw-la profecisse_fw-la etc._n etc._n i_o have_v do_v what_o i_o can_v yet_o i_o profit_v not_o i_o will_v i_o may_v rest_v somewhere_o else_o oh_o that_o i_o have_v the_o wing_n of_o a_o dove_n etc._n etc._n thus_o man_n say_v sed_fw-la plerunque_fw-la ita_fw-la ligantur_fw-la ut_fw-la volare_fw-la non_fw-la possint_fw-la ligantur_fw-la non_fw-la visco_fw-la 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as_o augustine_n when_o he_o be_v sick_a remove_v from_o hippo._n epist_n 56._o 4._o in_o time_n of_o persecution_n our_o saviour_n allow_v to_o flee_v from_o one_o city_n to_o a_o other_o mat._n 10._o 23._o metu_fw-la hostilitatis_fw-la cause_n 7._o qu._n 1._o cap._n 42._o but_o do_v it_o therefore_o follow_v if_o for_o a_o time_n upon_o those_o necessary_a occasion_n the_o pastor_n may_v be_v absent_a that_o therefore_o he_o may_v upon_o a_o ambitious_a covetous_a humour_n and_o at_o his_o pleasure_n and_o that_o very_a often_o or_o continual_o absent_v himself_o object_n 5._o in_o what_o congruity_n may_v he_o be_v count_v a_o idle_a non_fw-fr resident_a that_o be_v always_o present_a in_o some_o part_n of_o his_o charge_n etc._n etc._n ans_fw-fr and_o be_v it_o enough_o that_o a_o man_n at_o some_o time_n and_o in_o some_o part_n of_o his_o charge_n take_v pain_n what_o daub_v be_v this_o then_o give_v a_o man_n 10_o or_o 20_o benefice_n for_o he_o may_v at_o some_o time_n and_o 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church_n be_v spoil_v of_o their_o due_a service_n meliores_fw-la qui_fw-la laborare_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la cupiunt_fw-la excluduntur_fw-la they_o which_o will_v do_v more_o good_a in_o the_o church_n be_v exclude_v as_o though_o prince_n and_o peer_n be_v not_o able_a to_o maintain_v chaplain_n to_o attend_v upon_o they_o but_o such_o as_o live_v of_o their_o flock_n where_o they_o labour_v not_o it_o be_v ambition_n that_o draw_v such_o to_o prince_n court_n not_o any_o necessary_a service_n which_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o canon_n sardicens_fw-la cap._n 8_o 9_o 10._o episcopus_fw-la ambitione_n magis_fw-la quam_fw-la deo_fw-la servire_fw-la si_fw-la videbitur_fw-la etc._n etc._n a_o bishop_n rather_o for_o ambition_n than_o god_n service_n go_v to_o court_n must_v be_v deprive_v yet_o his_o majesty_n as_o reason_n be_v may_v have_v to_o preach_v before_o he_o man_n of_o the_o best_a gift_n without_o any_o long_a absence_n from_o their_o flock_n bernard_n when_o pope_n 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cvi_fw-la i_o committere_fw-la paro_fw-la a_o eum_fw-la idoneum_fw-la putabo_fw-la qui_fw-la mihi_fw-la det_fw-la consilium_fw-la qui_fw-la non_fw-la that_fw-mi sibi_fw-la he_o can_v give_v counsel_n to_o another_o that_o will_v take_v none_o himself_o neither_o can_v he_o be_v superior_a in_o advice_n that_o be_v inferior_a in_o life_n and_o to_o conclude_v nothing_o can_v be_v object_v of_o any_o weight_n or_o moment_n to_o hinder_v so_o good_a a_o work_n and_o so_o princely_a a_o motion_n which_o the_o king_n majesty_n by_o his_o letter_n have_v first_o make_v who_o christian_a zeal_n ought_v to_o make_v other_o forward_a let_v every_o man_n lay_v aside_o his_o own_o private_a respect_n further_a the_o common_a cause_n and_o seek_v the_o general_a good_a of_o christ_n church_n that_o s._n paul_n complaint_n be_v not_o renew_v all_o seek_v their_o own_o and_o not_o that_o which_o be_v jesus_n christ_n phil._n 2._o 27._o and_o hierome_n well_o say_v ne_fw-fr lucra_fw-la saeculi_fw-la in_o christi_fw-la quaeras_fw-la militia_n &c_n &c_n seek_v not_o the_o worldly_a gain_n in_o christ_n service_n the_o defence_n of_o the_o four_o part_n of_o the_o petition_n concern_v church_n discipline_n 1._o obj._n we_o have_v be_v teach_v heretofore_o 20._o ans_fw-fr p._n 20._o that_o discipline_n be_v a_o essential_a part_n of_o the_o gospel_n etc._n etc._n and_o matter_n of_o faith_n ans_fw-fr that_o the_o discipline_n of_o the_o church_n be_v general_o understand_v be_v a_o matter_n of_o faith_n and_o a_o essential_a mark_n of_o the_o church_n i_o hope_v our_o brethren_n will_v not_o deny_v for_o discipline_n comprehend_v not_o only_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o key_n but_o 208._o perpetual_a government_n of_o the_o church_n p._n 208._o ordination_n and_o imposition_n of_o hand_n but_o without_o ordination_n there_o be_v no_o preacher_n how_o shall_v they_o preach_v unless_o they_o be_v send_v rom._n 10._o 15._o and_o without_o preach_v there_o be_v no_o belief_n ibid._n vers_fw-la 14._o wherefore_o without_o some_o part_n of_o discipline_n it_o can_v be_v deny_v but_o that_o the_o church_n be_v no_o church_n faith_n no_o faith_n but_o general_o of_o every_o part_n it_o can_v be_v so_o affirm_v cyprian_n be_v very_o peremptory_a for_o the_o necessity_n of_o discipline_n thus_o write_v apparet_fw-la non_fw-la aliter_fw-la 7._o lib._n 2._o ep_n 7._o ecclesiasticae_fw-la saluti_fw-la consuli_fw-la posse_fw-la etc._n etc._n it_o appear_v that_o the_o safety_n of_o the_o church_n can_v otherwise_o be_v provide_v for_o unless_o they_o which_o be_v against_o it_o as_o contrary_a flood_n be_v repel_v and_o the_o ardour_n of_o discipline_n as_o the_o stir_a oar_n in_o a_o tempest_n be_v keep_v safe_a 2._o obj._n it_o be_v now_o come_v to_o be_v so_o indifferent_a etc._n etc._n that_o it_o will_v suffer_v a_o or_o else_o or_o at_o the_o least_o ibid._n ans_fw-fr and_o what_o have_v the_o petitioner_n here_o move_v which_o the_o king_n most_o excellent_a majesty_n have_v not_o first_o write_v that_o the_o discipline_n of_o the_o church_n be_v preserve_v in_o 44._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p._n 44._o purity_n according_a to_o god_n word_n what_o need_v our_o brethren_n then_o to_o have_v carp_v at_o this_o petition_n neither_o be_v that_o disiunctive_a clause_n or_o else_o at_o the_o least_o any_o contradiction_n or_o repugnance_n to_o the_o former_a but_o a_o exception_n and_o qualify_a thereof_o which_o give_v the_o adversary_n no_o advantage_n as_o the_o law_n say_v exceptionem_fw-la obijciens_fw-la non_fw-la videtur_fw-la de_fw-fr intention_n adversarij_fw-la confiteri_fw-la reg._n juris_fw-la 63._o and_o it_o be_v a_o condescend_v to_o the_o time_n that_o where_o the_o perfection_n desire_v can_v not_o be_v have_v reformation_n be_v seek_v that_o may_v be_v attain_v wherefore_o as_o the_o rule_n be_v in_o the_o law_n in_o argumentum_fw-la trahi_fw-la nequeunt_fw-la quae_fw-la propter_fw-la necessitatem_fw-la aliquando_fw-la sunt_fw-la concessa_fw-la reg._n juris_fw-la 78._o that_o which_o be_v yield_v to_o the_o necessity_n of_o time_n must_v not_o be_v urge_v as_o the_o integrity_n of_o the_o thing_n if_o christ_n institution_n be_v exact_o keep_v many_o thing_n shall_v be_v amend_v that_o be_v here_o not_o name_v but_o the_o petitioner_n have_v only_o mention_v those_o thing_n which_o in_o reason_n they_o think_v will_v not_o be_v deny_v or_o gainsayd_v 3._o obj._n be_v we_o persuade_v that_o their_o discipline_n be_v of_o christ_n institution_n can_v we_o be_v without_o it_o etc._n etc._n answ_n what_o our_o brethren_n will_v be_v persuade_v we_o know_v not_o but_o if_o these_o thing_n which_o be_v move_v be_v not_o prove_v to_o be_v agreeable_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n we_o desire_v not_o to_o be_v hear_v but_o to_o be_v reject_v with_o our_o cause_n we_o will_v not_o obtrude_v our_o own_o fancy_n but_o measure_n our_o judgement_n by_o the_o scripture_n as_o origen_n say_v exhibeo_fw-la sensus_fw-la mei_fw-la testem_fw-la scripturam_fw-la jerem._n homil._n 1._o in_o jerem._n homil._n 9_o in_o jerem._n sensus_fw-la nostri_fw-la &_o enarrationes_fw-la sine_fw-la ijs_fw-la testibus_fw-la non_fw-la habent_fw-la fidem_fw-la i_o yield_v the_o scripture_n a_o witness_n of_o my_o sense_n my_o exposition_n without_o the_o scripture_n let_v it_o be_v of_o no_o credit_n 4._o object_n his_o excellent_a majesty_n have_v have_v 20._o ans_fw-fr p._n 20._o experience_n of_o the_o manifold_a mischief_n that_o attend_v their_o pretend_a discipline_n etc._n etc._n answ_n this_o discipline_n and_o reformation_n intend_v by_o we_o be_v not_o attend_v upon_o by_o any_o such_o mischief_n other_o man_n oversight_n we_o justify_v not_o neither_o approve_v any_o unaduised_a proceed_n neither_o have_v his_o majesty_n so_o evil_a opinion_n of_o the_o scottish_a discipline_n as_o they_o insinuate_v the_o right_a use_n of_o a_o thing_n must_v not_o be_v condemn_v for_o the_o abuse_n as_o the_o law_n say_v utile_fw-la non_fw-la debet_fw-la per_fw-la inutile_fw-la vitiari_fw-la neither_o the_o
the_o multiplicite_a of_o excommunication_n tot_fw-la hodie_fw-la fiunt_fw-la &_o officiales_fw-la quod_fw-la vix_fw-la est_fw-la aliquis_fw-la etc._n etc._n there_o be_v so_o many_o excommunication_n now_o a_o day_n by_o official_o that_o scarce_o any_o man_n that_o fear_v god_n can_v live_v in_o the_o world_n with_o a_o safe_a conscience_n whereupon_o it_o be_v direct_v ut_fw-la caveant_fw-la ab_fw-la earum_fw-la multiplicatione_n etc._n etc._n that_o they_o shall_v beware_v of_o multiply_a excômunication_n lest_o they_o be_v bring_v to_o contempt_n these_o be_v the_o shower_n of_o chancellor_n and_o official_o excommunication_n that_o flee_v fast_o than_o lighten_v in_o tempest_n object_n 9_o in_o our_o understanding_n the_o minister_n of_o the_o parish_n do_v give_v his_o consent_n to_o the_o petition_n p._n 23._o ans_fw-fr what_o consent_n call_v you_o this_o when_o the_o chancellor_n or_o official_a send_v his_o mandate_n and_o the_o minister_n must_v denounce_v the_o sentence_n of_o excommunication_n or_o be_v suspend_v himself_o do_v you_o count_v this_o consent_n sufficient_a what_o be_v the_o pastor_n here_o else_o but_o the_o official_o slave_n to_o denounce_v his_o censure_n what_o be_v this_o else_o but_o against_o the_o apostle_n to_o be_v the_o servant_n of_o man_n but_o eccles_n 1_o cor._n 7._o 21_o de_fw-fr 7._o ordin_fw-fr eccles_n as_o hierome_n say_v non_fw-la in_o dominatione_fw-la ut_fw-la seruos_fw-la habeas_fw-la sed_fw-la in_o ministerio_fw-la liberos_fw-la preacher_n shall_v not_o be_v use_v as_o servant_n with_o indignity_n but_o as_o free_a man_n in_o their_o ministry_n object_n 10._o they_o intend_v the_o enable_v of_o every_o particular_a pastor_n alone_o to_o excommunicate_v answ_n to_o the_o petition_n ibid._n ans_fw-fr neither_o be_v it_o our_o desire_n that_o every_o particular_a pastor_n shall_v be_v enable_v to_o excomunicat_a pastor_n untruth_n we_o give_v no_o such_o power_n to_o particular_a pastor_n himself_o alone_a against_o the_o apost_n rule_v not_o as_o lord_n over_o god_n heritage_n as_o the_o the_o other_o be_v slavish_a so_o this_o be_v popelike_a as_o hierome_n will_n say_v contenti_fw-la sint_fw-la honore_fw-la svo_fw-la sciant_fw-la se_fw-la patres_fw-la esse_fw-la non_fw-la dominos_fw-la let_v they_o be_v content_a with_o their_o own_o honour_n and_o know_v they_o be_v father_n and_o not_o lord_n obejct_n 11._o if_o the_o pastor_n ought_v to_o be_v join_v in_o commission_n there_o will_v follow_v a_o world_n of_o trouble_n answ_n ibid._n answ_n neither_o be_v it_o fit_a that_o every_o pastor_n shall_v be_v join_v in_o commission_n with_o the_o chancellor_n and_o attend_v upon_o his_o court_n for_o that_o be_v infinite_a and_o tedious_a for_o the_o pastor_n to_o withdraw_v they_o from_o their_o flock_n cyprian_a will_n say_v neque_fw-la in_o altari_fw-la meretur_fw-la nominari_fw-la in_o sacerdotum_fw-la prece_fw-la 9_o 1._o pet._n 5._o 3._o lib._n 1._o ep_v 9_o qui_fw-la ab_fw-la altari_fw-la sacerdotes_fw-la avocare_fw-la volunt_fw-la hce_n deserve_v not_o to_o be_v mention_v in_o the_o minicter_n prayer_n that_o will_v draw_v he_o from_o execute_v his_o ministry_n but_o it_o shall_v even_o now_o appear_v what_o our_o desire_n be_v our_o desire_n be_v that_o discipline_n may_v be_v administer_v according_a to_o the_o rule_n of_o god_n word_n or_o as_o thing_n now_o stand_v see_v there_o be_v three_o person_n in_o this_o business_n to_o be_v respect_v the_o bishop_n in_o his_o diocese_n the_o officer_n and_o minister_n of_o the_o bishop_n and_o the_o several_a pastor_n we_o will_v have_v every_o man_n right_a reserve_v that_o all_o matter_n of_o instance_n and_o civil_a plea_n shall_v be_v still_o refer_v to_o the_o civil_a judge_n but_o matter_n of_o office_n as_o they_o be_v call_v excommunication_n and_o spiritual_a misdemeanour_n to_o be_v censure_v by_o the_o company_n of_o presbyter_n in_o every_o deanrie_n and_o division_n assist_v if_o it_o please_v the_o king_n majesty_n with_o some_o grave_a person_n of_o the_o lay_v sort_n to_o be_v assemble_v monthly_o together_o or_o otherwise_o as_o there_o shall_v be_v cause_n and_o from_o they_o if_o there_o be_v any_o just_a agrevance_n appeal_v to_o be_v make_v to_o the_o bishop_n necessary_a synod_n of_o the_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n necessary_a with_o his_o synod_n of_o presbyter_n for_o this_o course_n to_o appeal_v and_o refer_v doubtful_a matter_n to_o synod_n be_v both_o agreeable_a to_o scriptuer_n and_o practice_v of_o the_o ancient_a church_n as_o in_o antioch_n when_o the_o church_n be_v trouble_v about_o cercumcision_n they_o send_v to_o the_o apostle_n and_o elder_n about_o that_o question_n act._n 15._o 2._o thus_o be_v it_o decree_v in_o the_o great_a nicene_n synod_n that_o in_o every_o province_n bishop_n shall_v assemble_v twice_o in_o the_o year_n to_o hear_v the_o complaint_n of_o such_o as_o be_v excommunicate_a can_v 5._o the_o same_o decree_n be_v revive_v antioch_n c._n 20._o neither_o have_v they_o only_a provincial_a synod_n but_o the_o bishop_n for_o the_o same_o cause_n have_v his_o assembly_n of_o pastor_n cyprian_a writing_n to_o the_o presbyter_n and_o deacons_n of_o carthage_n say_v a_o primordio_fw-la episcopatus_fw-la mei_fw-la statui_fw-la nibil_n sine_fw-la consilio_fw-la vestro_fw-la mea_fw-la privatim_fw-la sententia_fw-la gerere_fw-la etc._n etc._n since_o 10._o cypr._n lib._n 3._o epist_n 10._o my_o first_o entrance_n into_o my_o episcopal_a charge_n i_o dermine_v to_o do_v nothing_o private_o of_o myself_o without_o your_o counsel_n gregory_n say_v lest_o there_o be_v any_o dissension_n among_o brethren_n etc._n etc._n 110._o lib._n 7._o epist_n 110._o in_o unum_fw-la conunire_fw-la sacerdotis_fw-la est_fw-la &c_n &c_n it_o be_v necessary_a for_o the_o priest_n to_o meet_v together_o quem_fw-la negligentia_fw-la reijcit_fw-la cum_fw-la omnium_fw-la presbyterorum_fw-la consilio_fw-la refutetur_fw-la who_o his_o own_o negligence_n make_v unworthy_a let_v he_o be_v displace_v by_o the_o council_n of_o the_o presbyter_n turenens_fw-la 2._o c._n 7._o for_o this_o cause_n it_o be_v not_o long_o since_o decree_v by_o a_o provincial_a synod_n singulis_fw-la annis_fw-la saltem_fw-la synodus_fw-la diocesane_fw-la a_o singulis_fw-la 35._o reformat_fw-la ratisp_n art_n 35._o episcopis_fw-la celebrant_a every_o year_n at_o the_o least_o let_v every_o bishop_n celebrate_v a_o synod_n in_o his_o diocese_n thus_o if_o this_o course_n be_v take_v christ_n institution_n for_o the_o censure_n of_o excommunication_n shall_v be_v keep_v the_o pastor_n shall_v be_v reverence_v the_o preach_n of_o the_o word_n further_v people_n with_o long_a journey_n not_o weary_v manner_n shall_v be_v due_o correct_v and_o thus_o much_o be_v insinuate_v by_o cyprian_a cornel._n epist_n 3._o ad_fw-la cornel._n a_o equum_fw-la est_fw-la &_o iustum_fw-la ut_fw-la uniuscujusque_fw-la causa_fw-la illic_fw-la audiatur_fw-la ubi_fw-la est_fw-la crimen_fw-la admissum_fw-la &_o singulis_fw-la pastoribus_fw-la sit_fw-la portio_fw-la gregis_fw-la a_o scripta_fw-la quam_fw-la regat_fw-la unusquisque_fw-la &_o gubernet_fw-la rationem_fw-la svi_fw-la actus_fw-la domino_fw-la redditurus_fw-la it_o be_v right_a and_o just_a that_o every_o man_n cause_n be_v hear_v where_o the_o fault_n be_v make_v and_o to_o every_o pastor_n a_o part_n of_o the_o flock_n shall_v be_v commit_v to_o be_v govern_v wherefore_o most_o noble_a king_n 1._o see_v conclusion_n the_o conclusion_n excommunication_n shall_v be_v decree_v by_o a_o assembly_n according_a to_o christ_n rule_n matth._n 18._o 18._o 2._o neither_o shall_v there_o be_v any_o monarch_n or_o sole_a commander_n in_o the_o spiritual_a regiment_n of_o the_o church_n 3._o if_o s._n paul_n do_v not_o excommunicate_a without_o the_o pastor_n 4._o if_o all_o that_o have_v authority_n to_o preach_v have_v right_a to_o the_o key_n 5._o if_o they_o which_o have_v a_o joint_a power_n of_o ordination_n have_v also_o of_o jurisdiction_n 6._o if_o by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n a_o bishop_n and_o a_o priest_n be_v all_o one_o 7._o if_o all_o pastoral_a duty_n equal_o belong_v to_o all_o pastor_n 8._o if_o whatsoever_o appertain_v to_o the_o edify_n of_o the_o church_n be_v appendant_a to_o the_o pastor_n office_n 9_o if_o it_o be_v safe_a that_o many_o excommunicate_a by_o consent_n than_o one_o 10._o if_o it_o have_v be_v the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n to_o join_v presbyter_n with_o bishop_n in_o the_o spiritual_a regiment_n of_o the_o church_n 11._o if_o all_o priest_n indifferent_o under_o the_o law_n do_v separate_v and_o restore_v leper_n whereunto_o answer_v excommunication_n and_o reconciliation_n now_o 12._o if_o presbyter_n sit_v in_o counsel_n and_o give_v voice_n and_o be_v allow_v by_o the_o law_n imperial_a to_o excommunicate_v and_o further_o see_v nothing_o can_v be_v object_v of_o any_o moment_n 1._o neither_o s._n paul_n deliver_v to_o satan_n of_o alexander_n and_o hymeneus_n 2._o neither_o of_o the_o incestuous_a young_a man_n at_o corinth_n 3._o see_v the_o key_n of_o knowledge_n which_o pastor_n have_v be_v not_o to_o be_v sever_v from_o the_o key_n of_o power_n 4._o and_o as_o well_o may_v
petit._n p._n 24._o answ_n 1._o the_o 52._o canon_n of_o the_o laodicene_a council_n which_o decree_v that_o marriage_n shall_v not_o be_v solemnize_v in_o lent_n do_v no_o more_o show_n that_o the_o restraint_n of_o marriage_n be_v not_o superstitious_a then_o because_o can_v 24._o mention_n be_v make_v of_o 7._o ecclesiastical_a order_n and_o can_v 48._o of_o chrism_n to_o be_v use_v after_o baptism_n it_o may_v be_v infer_v that_o neither_o be_v these_o observation_n popish_a we_o count_v not_o only_o those_o corruption_n popish_a which_o the_o pope_n in_o his_o ruff_n invent_v but_o those_o of_o elder_a time_n which_o he_o have_v retain_v and_o see_v the_o mystery_n of_o iniquity_n wrought_v in_o the_o apostle_n time_n it_o be_v no_o marvaill_n if_o it_o wrought_v in_o the_o time_n of_o this_o council_n 2._o this_o canon_n object_v make_v but_o one_o restraint_n of_o marriage_n in_o time_n of_o lent_n but_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n bring_v in_o three_o from_o church_n more_o 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produce_v witness_n against_o himself_o 8._o neither_o shall_v witness_n be_v imprison_v 9_o and_o every_o word_n shall_v stand_v in_o the_o mouth_n of_o two_o or_o three_o witness_n 10._o neither_o shall_v the_o same_o be_v accusator_fw-la &_o judex_fw-la we_o hope_v your_o majesty_n see_v what_o just_a cause_n the_o petitioner_n have_v to_o move_v that_o the_o oath_n exit_fw-la officio_fw-la be_v more_o spare_o use_v which_o course_n seem_v strange_a in_o ancient_a time_n as_o ambrose_n reprove_v one_o syagrius_n bishop_n of_o verona_n for_o condemn_v a_o virgin_n without_o a_o accuser_n vbi_fw-la talis_fw-la iudicandi_fw-la formula_fw-la 64._o epist._n 64._o si_fw-la leges_fw-la publicas_fw-la interrogamus_fw-la accusatorum_fw-la exigunt_fw-la si_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la etc._n etc._n whence_o have_v you_o this_o form_n of_o proceed_v if_o we_o ask_v the_o common_a law_n they_o require_v a_o accuser_n if_o the_o church_n in_o the_o mouth_n of_o two_o or_o three_o witness_n every_o truth_n stand_v 9_o of_o licenses_fw-la for_o marriage_n without_o bane_n ask_v object_n licenses_fw-la for_o marriage_n be_v most_o cautelous_o grant_v and_o that_o upon_o severe_a punishment_n to_o ensue_v if_o the_o constitution_n be_v violate_v answ_n p._n 25._o answ_n the_o inconvenience_n which_o ensue_v upon_o licenses_fw-la for_o marriage_n as_o they_o be_v now_o grant_v be_v many_o 1._o by_o this_o mean_n injury_n be_v do_v unto_o the_o parent_n without_o who_o consent_n their_o child_n and_o sometime_o heir_n be_v carry_v away_o and_o marry_v without_o further_a notice_n 2._o precontract_n be_v by_o this_o mean_v delude_v when_o as_o marriage_n be_v huddle_v up_o without_o public_a warning_n that_o they_o which_o have_v interest_n may_v take_v exception_n 3._o these_o licenses_fw-la give_v way_n to_o clandestine_v and_o secret_a marriage_n which_o be_v forbid_v both_o by_o god_n law_n and_o man_n 4._o the_o church_n and_o congregation_n be_v offend_v the_o pastor_n mock_v 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seldom_o and_o that_o upon_o necessary_a and_o urgent_a occasion_n better_a caution_n and_o more_o reasonable_a fee_n that_o as_o other_o 21._o coloniens_fw-la par_fw-fr 7._o c._n 43._o august_n c._n 21._o thing_n so_o marriage_n may_v be_v do_v according_a to_o the_o apostle_n rule_v comely_a and_o in_o order_n 1._o cor._n 14_o 40._o but_o now_o by_o these_o licenses_fw-la order_n be_v break_v and_o a_o way_n make_v to_o many_o uncomely_a and_o unhonest_a proceed_n the_o defence_n of_o the_o conclusion_n 1._o censure_v the_o idle_a vaunt_n that_o the_o 2d_o answ_n p._n 2d_o petitioner_n make_v etc._n etc._n they_o have_v pass_v over_o in_o silence_n many_o learned_a tract_n answ_n we_o trust_v by_o this_o defence_n it_o do_v appear_v that_o it_o be_v no_o idle_a vaunt_n that_o the_o petitioner_n be_v able_a to_o show_v the_o particular_n give_v in_o instance_n not_o to_o be_v agreeable_a to_o the_o scriptuer_n the_o treatise_n write_v on_o the_o contrary_a part_n the_o petitioner_n 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quae_fw-la non_fw-la defenditur_fw-la &_o probatur_fw-la taceat_fw-la 49._o serm._n 49._o lingua_fw-la necesse_fw-la est_fw-la ubi_fw-la ipsa_fw-la equitas_fw-la sibi_fw-la adest_fw-la as_o ambrose_n say_v the_o goodness_n of_o the_o cause_n do_v the_o better_a appear_v when_o it_o be_v approve_v without_o defence_n the_o gracious_a effect_n under_o her_o majesty_n late_a happy_a reign_n proceed_v not_o from_o the_o discipline_n but_o from_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n which_o if_o it_o have_v be_v cherish_v by_o a_o good_a foster_n sister_n will_v have_v bring_v forth_o more_o glorious_a fruit_n his_o majesty_n what_o defect_n soever_o he_o find_v in_o the_o reformation_n of_o his_o former_a kingdom_n which_o be_v not_o such_o as_o you_o insinuate_v he_o know_v wise_o to_o distinguish_v between_o the_o fault_n of_o man_n and_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o thing_n as_o the_o law_n say_v delictum_fw-la 76_o reg._n iuris_fw-la 76_o personae_fw-la non_fw-la debet_fw-la in_o detrimentum_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la redundare_fw-la the_o person_n fault_n shall_v not_o be_v the_o church_n prejudice_n 2._o cens_fw-la that_o god_n have_v appoint_v his_o majesty_n etc._n etc._n for_o such_o a_o purpose_n as_o they_o conceit_n what_o point_n of_o divination_n etc._n etc._n answ_n we_o doubt_v not_o but_o that_o god_n have_v appoint_v his_o majesty_n to_o the_o kingdom_n for_o such_o a_o time_n even_o to_o reform_v such_o thing_n as_o be_v out_o of_o square_a both_o in_o church_n and_o commonwealth_n that_o we_o may_v say_v of_o his_o majesty_n with_o the_o prophet_n vocaberis_fw-la instaurator_n ruinae_fw-la &_o institutor_fw-la semitarum_fw-la esay_n 58._o 12._o as_o for_o the_o petitioner_n they_o have_v neither_o popish_a nor_o puritan_n humour_n to_o be_v purge_v of_o where_o the_o sickness_n be_v we_o trust_v our_o princely_a physician_n will_v in_o time_n find_v out_o as_o augustine_n say_v qui_fw-la 14_o soliloq_fw-la 1._o 14_o medici_fw-la officio_fw-la fungitur_fw-la melius_fw-la intelligit_fw-la qui_fw-la sani_fw-la sunt_fw-la quam_fw-la ipsi_fw-la qui_fw-la sanantur_fw-la the_o physician_n better_o know_v who_o be_v sick_a or_o sound_n than_o they_o which_o be_v heal_v neither_o do_v we_o wish_v the_o state_n to_o be_v dissolve_v but_o the_o corruption_n to_o be_v reform_v the_o state_n of_o the_o church_n as_o we_o deny_v it_o not_o to_o be_v in_o part_n as_o they_o say_v acceptable_a to_o god_n honourable_a to_o his_o highness_n comfortable_a to_o many_o thousand_o minister_n so_o we_o desire_v that_o in_o each_o sort_n it_o may_v be_v more_o and_o say_v with_o augustine_n in_o a_o other_o case_n optandum_fw-la 16._o epist_n 16._o est_fw-la ut_fw-la fiat_fw-la supplicandum_fw-la est_fw-la ut_fw-la fiat_fw-la non_fw-la quasi_fw-la factum_fw-la fuerit_fw-la consulendum_fw-la it_o be_v to_o be_v wish_v that_o so_o it_o be_v but_o can_v be_v say_v that_o so_o it_o be_v 3._o censure_n he_o that_o will_v indifferent_o consider_v etc._n etc._n shall_v have_v just_a cause_n to_o approve_v the_o justice_n commend_v the_o mildness_n etc._n etc._n answ_n we_o wish_v the_o same_o which_o our_o brethren_n write_v that_o such_o mildness_n have_v be_v use_v by_o the_o governor_n of_o the_o church_n towards_o the_o preacher_n which_o be_v silence_v imprison_a deprive_v for_o refuse_v the_o surplice_n and_o cross_n and_o such_o other_o matter_n to_o the_o urger_n of_o they_o of_o no_o great_a importance_n god_n show_v they_o more_o mercy_n in_o that_o day_n certain_o howsoever_o their_o severity_n before_o man_n by_o authority_n may_v be_v excuse_v yet_o their_o clemency_n will_v have_v be_v more_o commend_v as_o ambrose_n 58._o epist._n 58._o well_o say_v vides_fw-la quid_fw-la authoritas_fw-la tribuat_fw-la quid_fw-la studeo_fw-la misericordia_fw-la excusationem_fw-la habes_fw-la si_fw-la feceris_fw-la laudem_fw-la si_fw-la non_fw-la feceris_fw-la 4._o cens_fw-la as_o for_o that_o clause_n of_o man_n tradition_n it_o be_v odious_a answ_n p._n 27._o answ_n let_v our_o brethren_n tell_v we_o in_o good_a sadness_n whether_o they_o can_v prove_v the_o surplice_n cross_n in_o baptism_n
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