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A57969 The due right of presbyteries, or, A peaceable plea for the government of the Church of Scotland ... by Samuel Rutherfurd ... Rutherford, Samuel, 1600?-1661. 1644 (1644) Wing R2378; ESTC R12822 687,464 804

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