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A01389 An answer to VVithers motto Without a frontispice. Wherein, Nec habeo, nec careo, nec curo, are neither approued, nor confuted: but modestly controuled, or qualified. T. G., Esquire.; Gainsford, Thomas, d. 1624? 1625 (1625) STC 11509; ESTC S102784 33,060 80

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impudence And yet you care not so your soule be pure How can a pure soule such outrage endure Nay in my soule when that you see it so You greeue at heart But now you onward goe With carelessenesse at statesmen raised by Kings As if it danger were to reach at things Beyond our strength Yet shall we venter this To crie alowd that great men doe amisse And not be gr●iued how the gouernment Concussion suffers When we knowe they ment Either to paint their coats with fuming fame As their ambition doth bedawb the same And as their hearts are prowd their glorious eies Will looke on nothing but the high● built skies Or for some priuate ends to make such men As formerly distasted them but when When they were taught wing'd Pegasus to stride And braue it mounted in a pompous pride Or out of sordide and obsceane delight Of riches plaie the tyrants in despight Or out of care of faire posteritie Doe neither care for truth or charitie But to turne o're a greatnesse to their stock Split their owne barks vpon the craggie rock Of a bad conscience which cause no man sees They doe proceed in ●inne by all degrees Raising their bulwarks out of Princes powers Whose sacred titles stand like strong built towers Then who dare once contro●●e what they will haue For Kings breath honour life and credit saue But Kings may be abused either from pass●on Or will or some misled affection But worst of all from poisoning flatterie Suggesting actiens 'gainst their dignitie As if it treason were for to contest For any cause against their high behest What shall a subiect dare say they to finde A fault or scruple 'gainst the Princes minde Whie are they called Gods while ●hat t●ey li●e And all must stoop and knee'e and honour giue As reason is But now i● all this coile Be to diuert their faire aspects and soile Their first pure hearts with spots of others sinne Better it were that such had neuer bin To blister a sweet face Oh this flatterie Is worse then Cannon shot in batterie For open enimies may be withstood But bruses dangerous are that drawe no blood This vice as I remember is compared To certaine Asps who when they are prepared To po●son m●n as they lie fast asleep Doe softhe on their bellies to them creep Sword● about vntill they get some bare Whic● sti●g they will not but hauc greater care To tickle and to licke vpon the place As t●ey con●inue in their wanton race Vntill they bruse their gummes and bladders breake From whence a moisture doth vpon them reake Wh●ch at the first doth itch but by degree● Before the poisoned partie knowes or sees It rankles worse then Deian ras shurt And end●th not without or death or hurt Euen thus good gouernment may be abused By ● rinces fauorites who still haue vsed This cunning tricke to keep the rest in awe By such strong hands as countermaund the law But to the point if that it should be thus Doe you not care that can so well discusse Of vertue goodnesse pietie and truth Wherein you haue brought vp your fearefull youth Come come you doe saie what you will you doe And ●o and more doth euerie good man too ●ho cannot looke vpon enormities ●ith such hard hearts or stiffer dried vp eies ●ut in religious sorrow send out teares ●hen the good soule of such ill tiding heares ●nd saie the Eagle lifts her young ones high ●o look against the Sun that she might spie ●hich are not bastards weaklings against kinde ●ut if by proofe she any such doe finde ●he dasheth them to ground out of the nest Whereby they perish Thus if Kings finde out Who bastards are to vertue making doubt Of their true worth Themselues most worthie when ●hey doe discouer such polluted men Casting them out like lepers from the c●mpe Or traitours that abuse their monie stampe Doth not this moue you to see fortunes spi●ht ●y such exchange on ●railtie for to light Hath not our common mother nature taught That men with mens afflictions are caught For though we truelie may reioice in heart When Princes act so good a Princes part ●o punish wicked men though they be great As once Cambises did a Iudge intreat Though we lament when vicious men doe rise Within the Realme to rage and t●rannise Yet sure men moued are with those extr●ames As we looke strangely at the Sunnes faire beames Eclipsed by the moone and though our faith Be nere so strong yet sure the Scripture saith That we must feare and tremble when we see By Signes and meteors that God angrie be Here once againe you of religion talke And many times doe trace in one selfe walke Of scorning still the rascall multitude Of great mens errours who themselues delude Of praising vertue hating auarice Of selfe commending as if none were wise But such as with you could be still content With any fortune in her worst extent Of the sure secret in diuinitie Mans free election h' gainst humanitie And manie such like which you oft repeat I think of purpose that the purer wheat Banked vp with the chaffe might vndiscried Or vnsnatcht at safe in the heape abide But what doe you for your religion more Then Moores Turks who hate the worlds great sto● Of books except their holie Alcheron Which none but Priests and Doctours looke vpon Nay barbarous nations are beyond you farre That rather will maintaine seditious warre Then break a superstitious foolish rite Though all the world should other truth recite But how comes in this vncouth Paradox To split your iudgement on presumptious rocks That no man as an honest man is fit Either in Church or Common wealth to sit That for his monie doth an office buie Sure this is harsh and no man will relie Vpon your censure but remaine a loofe Though that you cunning had to make the proofe For either out of Scripture you must frame Your dang'rous structure or maintaine the same With strange confusion of all Countries fashions Who nere will yeeld vnto such rules and passions Nay though you say you meant Iudiciall seates Where equall tongue for the poore foule intreates For this distinction cannot you excuse Since many great men doe all bribes refuse As for preferment purchased with wealth Which little better is you say then stealth Or honours fames for preseruations sake For which the world so great a stirre doth make Or Countries swetnesse when a wiseman may Make euerie Countrie a mans worth display Yet what a world of men did deerelie loue Their Countries aboue all scorning to moue One forward step into anothers land But for imploiment as their case doth stand Nay though they sate in Kinglie seat Yet home they must and make a faire retreat Or courtlie Office which both good and bad Doe equall get as fauours may be had Or lordlie loue which for some priuate end Would entertaine you for a welcome friend All
who want more then they that such things boast As if a pleasure were pleasure to scorne When yet to modest pleasures we are borne For in d●light● as I haue often said Man may reioyce and God may be obaid Yea man may hauel is fancy in each thing Which doth him ease profi● or pleasu●e bring Whether it bookes or hawkes or horses be Or shooting hunting or a pl●y to see I make no doubt a man may doe all this Without offence So that his ai●e not misse And he which sha●l oppose his faire delight Censured will be 〈…〉 s●ight For how can man in vertue so exce●l That he is certaine alwayes to d●e we●l The next of note you carelesly deny Is kinred whom the State hath rais'd on high Who in their pride vouchsafe not to looke back Vpon their poore all●e that all things lacke Nay now they scorne to iustifie their blood But will ●ome auncient Pedegree make good And though a brothers sonne approach him neare Yet will not he his cause by that name heare Sure 't is not well if any such there be That are asham'd their poorest kin to see But if that God will meane men so aduance Whether for vertue or some other chance What 's that to you they care not for your care Nor ye● regard how that you carelesse are For if you stand to boast how you were borne As well as they take heed of spight and scorne The better course is their good will to try And not by carelesnesse them to defie What doe you know as Mordichai did saie Whether that God did bring them to this waie Euen for your good It may be that his p●ide With other Vices which in him reside Shall turne to all the profit of his kin For thus with God the former crimes haue bin You follow then to hunt a Prodigall As he is glorious and a foole withall Faith spare your labour and you soone shall s●e How for the sa●e he punished will be If yet you will reforme him without cost There is a while nought but your labour lost Vntill his franticke humour be out spent And the● comes shame and wants incontinent Yea such as worshipt him vnto his face Will if they meet him geere at his disgrace But if you would vnto the world descrie Your carelesse resolution to denie Such simple Guls what cares the world for this They wish you were better emploide iwis Next thing you talke of is Opinions blast Which suddenlie is spent and ouer-cast And so not to be cared for Yet still Your fingers itch at Vertue with a will ●o haue the world regard your deerest loue ●o that which God and godlie men approue You add● withall how no harsh discontent Can weake your bow that is so strongly bent ●ut rather make you fit for such a triall ●s shall maintain●y your faith without deniall I little say For twentie times at least ●ou haue invited vs to such a feast ●esides I manie things do ouer-passe ●r feare of mischiefe which must ne●ds alasse ●icken a cloud of some displeasure when ●nsorious searchers bring iudicious men 〈◊〉 ouer-looke the fardell of your braine ●king it ill that thus you dare maintaine ●ch arrogant positions against reason ●eing that wisedome may come out of season For so a dangerous passage next you make ●d doe a slender barke to stormes betake 〈◊〉 a stu●'d Ocean bringing on a stage ●ur former fortunes but in such a rage ●at you spare none that in your Tragedie ●ere Actors to encrease your miserie But I will spare to talke of this at all ●d grant the weakest be not thrust to wall I wish you Vertue thriue but as I liue 〈◊〉 hot a zeale will many scandals giue ●sedome directs good Counsell to bestow 〈◊〉 man must not proclaime all he doth know ● For when the Frog did with the Bullocke swell ●dash't his braines out and so dead he fell You draw at last to some conclusion But stronger then the whole confusion You haue failed in No griefe shall you amate No sorrow discontent your mind rebate No pouerty distresse you● friends despight As if in misery you tooke delight Su●e th●s is much Iob dealt not with vs so He did with humbler steps and paces go He cride his flesh was not a chimney stocke His bones of brasse his head a bea●ing blocke His sides of Adamant his eies of stone His heart of marble hard Yet you alone Dare challenge terrour to fight hand to h●nd As in the Giants warre Where men did stand To tosse the rocks against the lightning 〈◊〉 And with Typhaeus Iupiter defie You doe not care for Fortune in her glory To pull downe prouder hearts It is your story To be recorded for a man of wonder That could as well liue Atlas burthen vnder As once endure such mischiefes you relate Or anxious sorrowes appointed by Fate Why what are you that dare aduenture thus Did euer man the matter so discusse The Prophets in times past did beare it out Yet of their frailties vrged many a doubt The Iewes who daily for their Law did ●ight Allowed their errours and the stronger might The blest Apostles had as great a faith And yet they stagger'd as the Scripture faith ●he Martynes I con●esse did constant die ●ut yet they were afraid in Giues to ●e ●ther good Saint● were glad of some reliefe 〈◊〉 many times aff●o●t d at the● griefe If Ieremy were with you face to face ●e tell you would the dungeon were a place ●f mire and death and so I make no doubt ●e was full glad when he was helped out 〈◊〉 Whales vast belly was another hell 〈◊〉 Ionas thinke you merrily there dwell ●nd yet you care not if your case were such ●ou could endure Well this is too too much ●nd may with lesser smarts your vertue tire ●hy man you haue but toucht a smoaking fir● ●t take you heed of such a Monarches rage ●at shall an Ouen heat or you engage ● fury of wilde beasts How then you fare ●annot tell but I beleeue you care ● As for your Muse which you do boast so much ●d carelesse are who it pe●use or touch ●m your example I do ouerpasse ●d gentlie leaue it wi●h you as it was ●ur Epilogue Postscript and Epigram ●●ane not now in any sort to name ● I protest if you do● wish the same ●oke more after Charity then Fame ●d pray with all my hea●t faire calmes may be ●spicious to your iournie that you see ● blacker skie For Ahabs little cloud ●d quickly raise the windes to speake aloud And so farewell Yet would you would prepar● Another song that you hereafter ●are 〈◊〉 honor laudes laeto glori● vultu ●tdecus niue is victoria concolor alis 〈◊〉 cunctus lauro perducit ad astra triumphus Castam●●● d●mus celso stant colle penates Silius Ital. lib. 15. de bel Punico FINIS 〈…〉 〈…〉 Satyr ● ●ct and ●om●ions ●ed so ●irces Epi●● defor● Dem●●derid●● Hera●●deflet● Flecte neque●● supero● cheron● moueb● 6. 29 〈…〉 〈…〉 Amos ● Ezek. ● Isai. 58. Ezec. 3. Hosh. 4. Mal. 1. 1 Mal. 1. 1 Mal. 2. 〈…〉 ●●o laedi●isi a ● 〈…〉 〈…〉 〈…〉 〈…〉 All tim●s ●re not for ●mployment 〈…〉 How friends may be forsake 〈…〉 〈…〉 〈…〉 〈…〉 Fato pr●dent●a●nor Riches without vertue 〈…〉 〈◊〉 S. Thomas O●erbury Remember this Caution 〈…〉 〈…〉 〈…〉 ●●iendly ●●men ●on ● is a 〈◊〉 ●rder The 〈…〉 quan● 〈◊〉 〈…〉 Not 〈◊〉 preiu● 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 me fecit ●●niamea ●●umpar ●cat ●ast A Dialogue betweene Alexand●● and Diogenes 〈◊〉 ●utifull Pram● Pana ●●all ●●ings 〈◊〉 ult 〈…〉 Hon●● profi● 〈…〉 〈◊〉 Trend Knigh● 〈…〉 New● 〈…〉 ●e m●s of such ●ntlemē 〈…〉 〈…〉 〈…〉 〈◊〉 flead ● Iudge 〈…〉 ●usty 〈…〉 〈…〉 None mirth Iowab 〈…〉 〈…〉 〈◊〉 〈…〉 〈…〉 Disconttent 〈…〉