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B20551 A discourse concerning excommunication. By THomas Comber DD. Precentor of York. Comber, Thomas, 1645-1699. 1684 (1684) Wing C5459 99,055 127

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well_o as_o priest_n and_o make_v prince_n the_o supreme_a never_o intend_v to_o give_v his_o minister_n any_o power_n to_o disturb_v the_o public_a peace_n or_o oppose_v the_o good_a government_n of_o the_o world_n and_o if_o prince_n have_v not_o power_n to_o hinder_v such_o unjust_a sentence_n they_o can_v not_o govern_v their_o kingdom_n nor_o do_v their_o duty_n and_o when_o the_o pope_n and_o his_o clergy_n strive_v with_o king_n for_o the_o supremacy_n it_o be_v high_a time_n for_o they_o to_o check_v these_o dangerous_a attempt_n or_o else_o they_o will_v not_o have_v sit_v any_o long_o in_o their_o throne_n than_o the_o pope_n please_v but_o all_o this_o be_v now_o out_o of_o door_n and_o therefore_o the_o objection_n signify_v nothing_o as_o to_o our_o protestant_a bishop_n exercise_v this_o authority_n because_o they_o yield_v the_o king_n the_o supremacy_n in_o all_o cause_n as_o the_o primitive_a bishop_n do_v and_o even_o in_o popish_a time_n though_o the_o king_n do_v 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be_v now_o use_v in_o the_o christian_a church_n yet_o because_o it_o be_v not_o first_o practise_v there_o we_o must_v dig_v deep_a to_o discover_v the_o foundation_n thereof_o and_o it_o will_v add_v much_o to_o the_o veneration_n of_o it_o to_o show_v that_o it_o be_v ever_o reverence_v as_o well_o by_o the_o jew_n as_o the_o gentile_n before_o it_o be_v adopt_v into_o christianity_n by_o our_o bless_a saviour_n wherefore_o we_o will_v demonstrate_v that_o this_o sacred_a rite_n have_v its_o original_a from_o these_o three_o thing_n first_o from_o the_o light_n of_o natural_a reason_n and_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o gentile_n who_o have_v no_o other_o guide_n second_o from_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o jew_n before_o our_o lord_n incarnation_n three_o from_o the_o express_a institution_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n first_o the_o light_n of_o natural_a reason_n show_v we_o that_o no_o society_n ever_o do_v or_o can_v subsist_v without_o governor_n nor_o can_v those_o 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excommunicate_v shall_v be_v exclude_v not_o only_o from_o eat_v and_o discourse_v with_o the_o clergy_n but_o also_o from_o eat_v or_o talk_v with_o any_o of_o the_o people_n 946._o people_n capitul_n l._n 6._o cap._n 142._o pag._n 946._o also_o it_o be_v ordain_v that_o the_o christian_n shall_v not_o light_o esteem_v the_o excommunication_n of_o their_o clergy_n for_o even_o this_o contempt_n be_v a_o just_a cause_n of_o excommunication_n 964._o excommunication_n ibid._n cap._n 248._o pag._n 964._o and_o in_o another_o place_n that_o no_o excommunicate_a person_n shall_v be_v a_o godfather_n for_o those_o who_o by_o god_n law_n and_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o canon_n be_v turn_v out_o of_o the_o church_n and_o out_o of_o the_o camp_n lest_o they_o bring_v a_o curse_n on_o the_o people_n these_o be_v much_o more_o to_o be_v keep_v off_o from_o these_o sacred_a duty_n 1135._o duty_n capitul_n additam_fw-la ii_o cap._n 1._o p._n 1135._o where_o beside_o the_o express_a and_o plain_a affirmation_n that_o excommunicate_a person_n be_v by_o god_n law_n to_o be_v exclude_v the_o church_n we_o see_v that_o from_o the_o history_n of_o achan_n bring_v a_o curse_n on_o the_o army_n of_o israel_n they_o will_v not_o suffer_v the_o excommunicate_a to_o bear_v arm_n in_o their_o camp_n which_o be_v also_o intimate_v in_o those_o law_n which_o cite_v that_o place_n of_o joshuah_n there_o be_v a_o anathema_n in_o the_o midst_n of_o thou_o therefore_o thou_o can_v not_o stand_v before_o thy_o enemy_n 213._o enemy_n an._n 869._o car._n calv_n cap._n 20._o tom._n ii_o pag._n 213._o and_o it_o be_v most_o clear_a by_o these_o capitular_o that_o the_o king_n authority_n do_v follow_v the_o bishop_n act_n and_o the_o temporal_a justice_n do_v punish_v he_o that_o be_v stubborn_a and_o refractory_a and_o will_v not_o obey_v the_o bishop_n sentence_n nor_o be_v bring_v to_o repentance_n by_o his_o spiritual_a censure_n thus_o lhotharius_fw-la ordain_v that_o a_o obstinate_a person_n who_o be_v excommunicate_v shall_v be_v imprison_v by_o the_o high-sheriff_n or_o the_o count_n 323._o count_n an._n 824._o capit_fw-la lhothar_n cap._n 15._o tom._n ii_o pag._n 323._o and_o he_o that_o infringe_n the_o liberty_n of_o a_o church_n be_v to_o be_v excommunicate_v by_o the_o bishop_n and_o notice_n to_o be_v give_v of_o it_o to_o other_o bishop_n and_o the_o high-sheriff_n be_v to_o make_v he_o pay_v his_o fine_a and_o if_o he_o despise_v all_o this_o be_v judge_v by_o law_n he_o be_v to_o be_v behead_v and_o his_o good_n confiscate_v 363._o confiscate_v an._n 367._o capit._fw-la lud._n 2._o cap._n 8._o ibid._n pag._n 363._o yea_o those_o who_o be_v excommunicate_a for_o fornication_n and_o do_v not_o submit_v be_v to_o be_v banish_v the_o kingdom_n and_o such_o as_o retain_v they_o be_v think_v to_o offend_v against_o god_n and_o the_o sacred_a authority_n yea_o and_o against_o the_o common_a interest_n of_o christianity_n 5._o
christianity_n an._n 862._o capit_fw-la car._n calv._n cap._n 4_o 5._o so_o that_o still_o the_o bishop_n exercise_v his_o spiritual_a jurisdiction_n by_o the_o power_n he_o have_v receive_v from_o god_n and_o lest_o any_o shall_v despise_v this_o as_o be_v a_o spiritual_a penalty_n the_o secular_a law_n of_o these_o pious_a prince_n do_v inflict_v outward_a punishment_n on_o such_o imprisonment_n banishment_n confiscation_n of_o their_o good_n and_o death_n itself_o and_o now_o when_o by_o these_o secular_a penalty_n annex_v excommunication_n be_v become_v so_o terrible_a and_o so_o grievous_a not_o only_o to_o the_o soul_n by_o christ_n ordinance_n but_o to_o man_n outward_a condition_n by_o the_o law_n of_o the_o kingdom_n it_o be_v no_o wonder_n that_o these_o prince_n do_v revive_v those_o old_a canon_n which_o forbid_v the_o bishop_n rash_o to_o excommunicate_v for_o it_o be_v so_o great_a a_o temporal_a damage_n to_o their_o subject_n that_o they_o be_v now_o concern_v to_o see_v that_o the_o bishop_n do_v use_v their_o power_n only_o in_o just_a and_o weighty_a cause_n and_o hence_o we_o find_v those_o law_n make_v that_o excommunication_n shall_v not_o be_v issue_v out_o rash_o and_o without_o cause_n 136._o cause_n an._n 803._o cap._n 2._o &_o capit._n lib._n 1._o cap._n 136._o and_o that_o no_o bishop_n or_o priest_n shall_v excommunicate_v any_o till_o the_o cause_n be_v prove_v sufficient_a by_o the_o canon_n and_o till_o the_o offender_n either_o confess_v or_o be_v convict_v and_o according_a to_o the_o gospel_n precept_n have_v be_v warn_v to_o repent_v and_o amend_v but_o if_o after_o all_o this_o he_o despise_v the_o church_n censure_n the_o bishop_n shall_v then_o desire_v the_o royal_a power_n to_o compel_v he_o to_o submit_v etc._n etc._n 213._o etc._n an._n 858._o capit._fw-la tom._n ii_o pag._n 115._o &_o ibidem_fw-la anno_fw-la 869._o cap._n 10._o pag._n 213._o and_o again_o no_o bishop_n shall_v excommunicate_v any_o person_n without_o a_o certain_a and_o manifest_a cause_n but_o the_o anathema_n shall_v not_o be_v pronounce_v without_o the_o consent_n of_o his_o archbishop_n and_o fellow_n bishop_n after_o the_o evangelical_n admonition_n and_o for_o some_o cause_n allow_v by_o the_o canon_n because_o the_o anathema_n be_v a_o condemn_v to_o eternal_a death_n and_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v inflict_v but_o for_o mortal_a sin_n and_o on_o incorrigible_a offender_n 36._o offender_n an._n 846._o cap._n carol._n calv._n cap._n 46._o tom._n ii_o pag._n 36._o in_o which_o law_n those_o prince_n do_v not_o take_v upon_o they_o arbitrary_o to_o limit_v restrain_v or_o direct_v the_o power_n of_o excommunication_n as_o if_o their_o bishop_n have_v that_o power_n from_o they_o and_o not_o from_o christ_n only_o they_o take_v care_n that_o they_o shall_v not_o use_v that_o power_n which_o christ_n have_v trust_v they_o with_o otherwise_o than_o according_a to_o the_o direction_n which_o scripture_n and_o the_o old_a canon_n have_v give_v for_o the_o more_o orderly_a exercise_n thereof_o and_o that_o they_o shall_v not_o abuse_v their_o power_n now_o amplify_v by_o temporal_a accession_n to_o the_o damage_n of_o private_a subject_n or_o to_o the_o disturbance_n of_o the_o public_a peace_n and_o this_o these_o christian_a prince_n be_v oblige_v to_o do_v by_o their_o office_n and_o they_o do_v it_o without_o infringe_v the_o bishop_n divine_a right_n at_o all_o for_o though_o a_o parent_n by_o divine_a right_n have_v power_n over_o his_o child_n yet_o without_o take_v away_o that_o right_o the_o state_n may_v direct_v parent_n how_o to_o manage_v that_o power_n and_o beside_o it_o may_v be_v observe_v that_o none_o of_o the_o prince_n do_v ever_o pretend_v either_o to_o grant_v the_o bishop_n this_o power_n or_o whole_o to_o forbid_v they_o to_o exercise_v it_o only_o they_o direct_v they_o to_o manage_v it_o wary_o and_o wise_o and_o as_o they_o ought_v to_o have_v manage_v it_o if_o no_o such_o rule_n have_v be_v give_v they_o and_o thus_o mr._n selden'_v great_a argument_n take_v from_o these_o law_n as_o if_o they_o prove_v the_o power_n of_o excommunication_n to_o be_v in_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n fall_v to_o the_o ground_n §_o v._o against_o this_o full_a and_o clear_a evidence_n i_o know_v none_o that_o have_v raise_v any_o considerable_a objection_n but_o only_o the_o learned_a selden_n who_o have_v turn_v over_o all_o his_o author_n and_o record_n with_o great_a diligence_n to_o pick_v up_o something_o to_o oppose_v this_o ancient_a and_o almost_o universal_a opinion_n who_o instance_n when_o i_o have_v examine_v and_o answer_v i_o need_v not_o fear_v any_o great_a matter_n out_o of_o antiquity_n because_o he_o have_v a_o personal_a quarrel_n to_o the_o position_n i_o maintain_v and_o a_o vast_a stock_n of_o learning_n to_o enable_v he_o to_o manage_v it_o to_o the_o best_a advantage_n his_o objection_n be_v not_o put_v into_o any_o method_n but_o i_o shall_v collect_v they_o into_o the_o best_a order_n i_o can_v and_o with_o all_o due_a respect_n to_o so_o great_a a_o antiquary_n unfortunate_a only_o in_o the_o cause_n he_o undertake_v i_o shall_v consider_v they_o first_o he_o pretend_v that_o constantine_n do_v absolve_v eusebius_n of_o nicomedia_n and_o theognis_n of_o nice_a two_o arrian_n bishop_n who_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a have_v excommunicate_v and_o this_o he_o will_v prove_v by_o the_o phrase_n of_o a_o arabic_a historian_n who_o live_v long_o after_o this_o time_n 188._o time_n seld_o syne_v l._n i._o cap._n 10._o p._n 187_o 188._o but_o sozomen_n a_o more_o authentic_a author_n give_v we_o a_o copy_n of_o their_o petition_n or_o recantation_n offer_v to_o the_o bishop_n in_o the_o end_n of_o which_o they_o desire_v upon_o their_o repentance_n that_o these_o bishop_n will_v put_v the_o emperor_n in_o mind_n of_o they_o and_o let_v he_o know_v their_o intention_n and_o that_o they_o will_v please_v speedy_o to_o determine_v what_o they_o shall_v think_v expedient_a concern_v they_o 242._o they_o sozem._n histor_n lib._n 2._o cap._n 15._o p._n 242._o so_o that_o it_o be_v the_o bishop_n alone_a who_o can_v absolve_v they_o from_o the_o excommunication_n only_o since_o they_o be_v banish_v by_o the_o emperor_n authority_n he_o be_v to_o be_v request_v to_o take_v off_o that_o penalty_n which_o he_o lay_v on_o and_o to_o let_v they_o return_v to_o their_o church_n when_o the_o bishop_n have_v accept_v their_o repentance_n and_o take_v off_o the_o ecclesastical_a censure_n second_o he_o take_v much_o pain_n to_o prove_v the_o christian_a emperor_n from_o constantine_n time_n till_o gratian'ss_n viz._n for_o about_o 60_o year_n have_v the_o title_n and_o office_n of_o pontifices_fw-la maximi_fw-la and_o the_o supreme_a power_n in_o matter_n relate_v to_o religion_n and_o consequent_o he_o suppose_v the_o bishop_n must_v excommunicate_v by_o delegation_n from_o the_o emperor_n 188._o emperor_n seld._n ibid._n p._n 178._o ad_fw-la p._n 188._o for_o the_o title_n i_o shall_v easy_o grant_v that_o they_o bear_v it_o but_o his_o inference_n from_o it_o i_o must_v utter_o deny_v since_o there_o be_v not_o in_o all_o mr._n selden'_v read_v one_o line_n produce_v out_o of_o antiquity_n to_o show_v that_o the_o emperor_n do_v delegate_v this_o power_n to_o the_o bishop_n no_o edict_n no_o law_n nor_o rescript_n no_o historian_n ever_o mention_v such_o a_o thing_n no_o council_n no_o bishop_n be_v ever_o so_o grateful_a as_o to_o own_o this_o great_a favour_n so_o that_o it_o be_v a_o mere_a chimaera_n the_o bishop_n do_v excommunicate_a before_o constantine_n government_n and_o under_o it_o and_o after_o it_o in_o the_o same_o manner_n and_o as_o have_v be_v show_v even_o then_o declare_v their_o power_n be_v from_o god_n it_o be_v true_a the_o admit_v they_o to_o sit_v as_o judge_n in_o temporal_a cause_n be_v by_o delegate_v power_n from_o the_o emperor_n and_o therefore_o mr._n selden_n have_v produce_v many_o rescript_n to_o grant_v they_o that_o power_n but_o not_o one_o can_v he_o or_o any_o man_n ●●se_n find_v wherein_o the_o emperor_n give_v they_o power_n to_o excommunicate_v wherefore_o they_o have_v that_o power_n by_o a_o commission_n from_o christ_n three_o he_o mention_n those_o phrase_n in_o the_o imperial_a law_n wherein_o the_o heretic_n who_o deny_v the_o nicene_n faith_n be_v to_o be_v drive_v and_o remove_v from_o the_o threshold_n of_o all_o church_n and_o not_o to_o be_v permit_v to_o meet_v in_o any_o church_n to_o be_v forbid_v the_o communion_n of_o saint_n and_o exclude_v the_o public_a meeting_n etc._n etc._n 172._o etc._n seld._n synedr_n l._n i._o cap._n 10._o p._n 172._o which_o he_o will_v have_v to_o signify_v a_o imperial_a excommunication_n but_o the_o intelligent_a reader_n know_v that_o the_o bishop_n in_o council_n have_v first_o decree_v this_o excommunication_n and_o that_o by_o virtue_n of_o a_o express_a divine_a precept_n titus_n
cap._n 11._o §._o 1._o and_o so_o do_v our_o reform_a bishop_n wherefore_o i_o be_o not_o concern_v how_o the_o papal_a encroachment_n be_v tolerate_v or_o restrain_v because_o excommunication_n be_v right_o manage_v before_o they_o be_v in_o be_v and_o be_v now_o after_o they_o be_v cast_v out_o and_o now_o a_o brief_a review_n of_o these_o objection_n will_v suffice●y_v wherefore_o we_o will_v here_o represent_v they_o all_o together_o he_o allege_v many_o particular_n to_o this_o purpose_n viz._n that_o eadmerus_n say_v concern_v william_n the_o conqueror_n that_o he_o will_v not_o suffer_v any_o of_o his_o baron_n or_o minister_n to_o be_v prosecute_v or_o excommunicate_v for_o incest_n adultery_n or_o any_o other_o capital_a crime_n 197._o crime_n seld._n de_fw-fr synedr_n lib._n i._o cap._n 10._o pag._n 197._o which_o seem_v to_o be_v a_o odious_a representation_n of_o a_o monk_n who_o be_v concern_v in_o the_o controversy_n between_o anselm_n and_o the_o crown_n for_o eadmerus_n author_n of_o this_o charge_n be_v one_o of_o anselm_n monk_n the_o truth_n therefore_o i_o suppose_v be_v that_o king_n william_n expect_v to_o have_v notice_n before_o any_o of_o his_o court_n be_v excommunicate_v for_o that_o be_v one_o of_o the_o custom_n of_o their_o father_n which_o the_o english_a nobility_n get_v to_o be_v enact_v for_o a_o law_n in_o the_o statute_n of_o clarendon_n 100_o clarendon_n statut._n clarend_a matth._n paris_n an._n 1164._o p._n 100_o but_o it_o be_v not_o credible_a that_o any_o christian_a king_n shall_v presume_v to_o forbid_v discipline_n to_o be_v exercise_v in_o such_o case_n wherein_o the_o law_n of_o god_n and_o the_o example_n of_o the_o apostle_n require_v it_o shall_v be_v use_v and_o if_o king_n william_n have_v forbid_v any_o such_o thing_n his_o prohibition_n have_v be_v impious_a and_o unjust_a as_o be_v against_o the_o express_a law_n of_o god_n but_o for_o that_o custom_n of_o the_o bishop_n acquaint_v the_o king_n first_o before_o any_o such_o sentence_n be_v issue_v out_o against_o his_o chief_a officer_n there_o seem_v to_o be_v some_o reason_n for_o it_o first_o because_o the_o king_n be_v suppose_v to_o be_v able_a to_o bring_v these_o to_o amendment_n without_o any_o severity_n second_o in_o that_o age_n many_o thing_n be_v annex_v to_o excommunication_n by_o prince_n bounty_n to_o the_o church_n so_o that_o if_o this_o person_n be_v one_o of_o who_o the_o king_n have_v great_a need_n in_o his_o affair_n he_o may_v thus_o have_v become_v useless_a to_o he_o on_o the_o sudden_a to_o the_o great_a damage_n of_o his_o government_n three_o the_o prince_n himself_o may_v thus_o unwary_o become_v liable_a to_o excommunication_n by_o converse_v with_o the_o excommunicate_a so_o that_o this_o custom_n require_v notice_n be_v give_v to_o the_o prince_n first_o and_o with_o his_o leave_n the_o offender_n may_v be_v excommunicate_v nor_o ought_v we_o to_o suppose_v that_o any_o christian_a prince_n who_o see_v a_o good_a bishop_n only_o design_v reformation_n of_o some_o scandalous_a officer_n or_o servant_n of_o he_o will_v deny_v his_o leave_n for_o the_o bishop_n to_o censure_v he_o and_o if_o he_o do_v i_o dare_v venture_v to_o say_v may_v overcome_v right_o for_o i_o be_o not_o of_o mr._n selden'_v opinion_n that_o secular_a law_n and_o custom_n be_v always_o just_a but_o i_o believe_v pious_a bishop_n have_v often_o for_o peace_n sake_n submit_v to_o unjust_a law_n and_o custom_n both_o rather_o than_o disturb_v their_o country_n or_o raise_v sedition_n against_o their_o prince_n again_o he_o object_n divers_a sentence_n of_o excommunication_n denounce_v in_o parliament_n against_o the_o infringer_n of_o magna_fw-la charta_fw-la and_o other_o liberty_n of_o the_o church_n and_o people_n i_o reply_v mr._n selden_n grant_v this_o be_v not_o proper_o excommunicate_v but_o only_o a_o threaten_v of_o this_o sentence_n in_o general_n and_o a_o declaration_n that_o they_o all_o believe_v the_o person_n so_o offend_v deserve_v to_o be_v accurse_a and_o excommunicate_v by_o the_o bishop_n and_o since_o so_o many_o bishop_n be_v present_a in_o parliament_n the_o sentence_n be_v they_o proper_o and_o the_o rest_n only_o express_v their_o agreement_n to_o it_o and_o withal_o excommunication_n be_v by_o the_o consequent_n attend_n it_o even_o as_o to_o a_o man_n outward_a condition_n become_v one_o of_o the_o most_o grievous_a penalty_n of_o all_o other_o in_o this_o age_n and_o so_o it_o be_v no_o wonder_n if_o prince_n who_o have_v annex_v these_o consequence_n to_o it_o do_v oblige_v the_o clergy_n to_o pronounce_v it_o with_o general_a assent_n on_o solemn_a occasion_n to_o make_v their_o law_n the_o better_a to_o be_v observe_v though_o i_o be_o apt_a to_o question_v whether_o it_o be_v well_o do_v to_o use_v it_o to_o such_o secular_a purpose_n we_o have_v indeed_o one_o statute_n since_o the_o reformation_n object_v also_o by_o mr._n selden_n 173._o selden_n stat._n 5_o &_o 6_o edvard_n 6._o cap._n 4._o vide_fw-la seld._n ut_fw-la supr_fw-la pag._n 173._o which_o decree_v excommunication_n for_o strike_v in_o the_o church_n or_o church-yard_n but_o this_o be_v not_o only_o a_o law_n make_v by_o the_o bishop_n consent_n but_o also_o it_o relate_v to_o a_o matter_n of_o the_o church_n and_o be_v no_o more_o but_o a_o confirmation_n of_o divers_a ancient_a canon_n which_o they_o suppose_v will_v be_v better_o observe_v if_o the_o whole_a parliament_n do_v assent_v to_o they_o and_o pass_v they_o into_o a_o secular_a law_n as_o be_v often_o do_v by_o the_o primitive_a emperor_n in_o the_o civil_a law_n and_o by_o the_o french_a king_n in_o the_o capitular_o but_o neither_o they_o nor_o our_o parliament_n ever_o intend_v hereby_o to_o take_v the_o matter_n out_o of_o the_o clergy_n power_n or_o to_o assume_v this_o power_n into_o their_o own_o hand_n yea_o the_o statute_n cite_v express_o say_v the_o ordinary_a shall_v issue_v out_o the_o sentence_n again_o mr._n selden_n say_v the_o king_n of_o france_n spain_n and_o england_n etc._n etc._n do_v allow_v appeal_n from_o the_o bishop_n consistory_n in_o many_o case_n i_o reply_v that_o many_o case_n be_v try_v in_o that_o court_n by_o the_o pious_a favour_n of_o christian_a prince_n who_o true_o believe_v bishop_n fit_a to_o judge_v in_o cause_n concern_v testament_n legacy_n guardianship_n divorce_n etc._n etc._n now_o in_o these_o matter_n which_o be_v judge_v by_o bishop_n not_o by_o any_o express_a law_n of_o god_n but_o by_o favour_n of_o the_o prince_n he_o may_v see_v that_o bishop_n judge_v right_o and_o therefore_o the_o king_n do_v of_o old_a grant_n prohibition_n on_o great_a occasion_n and_o call_v some_o of_o these_o matter_n into_o his_o temporal_a court_n where_o ancient_o he_o sit_v himself_o which_o custom_n be_v confirm_v by_o time_n be_v practise_v to_o this_o day_n but_o this_o no_o way_n concern_v the_o bishop_n authority_n which_o christ_n give_v he_o and_o if_o the_o sentence_n be_v for_o heresy_n or_o any_o other_o scandalous_a offence_n for_o which_o of_o old_a excommunication_n be_v inflict_v or_o if_o it_o only_o tend_v to_o reformation_n of_o manner_n and_o to_o the_o salvation_n of_o the_o criminal_n soul_n no_o appeal_n lie_v so_o that_o our_o opinion_n of_o the_o divine_a right_n of_o excommunication_n be_v not_o disprove_v by_o these_o proceed_n but_o he_o argue_v further_a that_o the_o king_n of_o england_n have_v some_o time_n send_v out_o their_o writ_n to_o command_v bishop_n to_o revoke_v their_o excommunication_n of_o which_o he_o give_v some_o instance_n etc._n instance_n seld._n synedr_n lib._n i._o cap._n 10._o pag._n 201._o etc._n etc._n to_o this_o i_o reply_v that_o all_o the_o case_n he_o specify_v be_v notorious_a violation_n of_o that_o power_n which_o christ_n have_v entrust_v the_o bishop_n with_o tend_v to_o the_o hinder_v the_o king_n precept_n from_o be_v execute_v and_o to_o the_o oppression_n of_o his_o loyal_a 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