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man_n pestiferous_a and_o raise_v sedition_n to_o all_o the_o jew_n in_o thâ—_n world_n etc._n etc._n and_o afterward_o 25._o afterward_o act._n 25._o the_o jew_n before_o the_o precedent_n festus_n object_v against_o s._n paul_n many_o and_o greâ—uous_a crime_n which_o they_o can_v not_o prove_v but_o they_o may_v easy_o have_v prove_v that_o s._n paul_n do_v preach_v the_o resurrection_n of_o christ_n for_o that_o he_o confess_v the_o same_o before_o both_o the_o precedent_n and_o king_n agrippa_n whereupon_o king_n agrippa_n say_v to_o s._n paul_n 26_o paul_n act._n 26_o a_o little_a thou_o persuade_v i_o to_o become_v a_o christian_n and_o before_o 25._o before_o act._n 25._o s._n paul_n make_v answer_v to_o the_o precedent_n festus_n that_o neither_o against_o the_o law_n of_o the_o jew_n nor_o against_o the_o temple_n nor_o against_o caesar_n have_v i_o any_o thing_n offend_v which_o signify_v that_o he_o be_v accuse_v that_o he_o have_v offend_v against_o caesar_n and_o a_o 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free_a from_o tribute_n as_o those_o who_o appertain_v to_o the_o family_n of_o christ._n neither_o do_v it_o therefore_o from_o hence_o follow_v that_o clergy_n man_n be_v by_o the_o law_n of_o god_n free_a from_o tribute_n for_o first_o that_o which_o s._n austen_n say_v be_v not_o in_o the_o word_n of_o our_o saviour_n but_o it_o be_v only_o gather_v by_o a_o probable_a consequence_n for_o our_o saviour_n do_v only_o speak_v of_o the_o true_a and_o natural_a child_n of_o king_n as_o s._n chrysostome_n do_v expound_v that_o place_n second_o our_o saviour_n himself_o do_v also_o proper_o command_v nothing_o in_o this_o place_n that_o it_o may_v be_v call_v the_o law_n of_o god_n but_o do_v only_o show_v by_o the_o use_n and_o custom_n of_o man_n that_o the_o child_n of_o king_n be_v free_a from_o tribute_n thus_o card._n bellarmine_n answer_v in_o his_o former_a edition_n which_o answer_n in_o his_o late_a edition_n he_o altogether_o conceal_v but_o for_o what_o cause_n i_o remit_v to_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o prudent_a reader_n 23_o by_o all_o which_o it_o be_v apparent_a that_o our_o saviour_n do_v only_o speak_v of_o himself_o and_o of_o the_o natural_a child_n of_o king_n when_o he_o use_v those_o word_n therefore_o son_n be_v free_a and_o of_o the_o servant_n or_o family_n either_o of_o king_n or_o of_o the_o child_n of_o king_n he_o say_v nothing_o at_o all_o and_o therefore_o from_o a_o other_o consequence_n draw_v from_o the_o use_n and_o custom_n of_o man_n and_o not_o from_o the_o word_n of_o our_o saviour_n can_v it_o be_v gather_v that_o those_o who_o be_v servant_n or_o of_o the_o family_n of_o the_o child_n of_o king_n be_v exempt_v either_o from_o subjection_n to_o the_o inferior_a magistrate_n of_o the_o kingdom_n or_o from_o the_o pay_n of_o tribut_n but_o by_o no_o probable_a consequence_n it_o can_v be_v deduce_v that_o those_o who_o be_v either_o servant_n and_o of_o the_o family_n of_o king_n child_n or_o also_o servant_n and_o of_o the_o family_n of_o the_o king_n himself_o be_v by_o the_o custom_n of_o any_o nation_n either_o exempt_v from_o subjection_n to_o inferior_a magistrate_n and_o much_o less_o to_o the_o king_n himself_o or_o also_o from_o pay_v tribute_n unless_o the_o king_n upon_o some_o other_o special_a consideration_n do_v grant_v to_o any_o of_o they_o such_o a_o privilege_n 24_o to_o those_o word_n of_o our_o saviour_n but_o that_o we_o may_v not_o scandalize_v they_o etc._n etc._n it_o be_v easy_o answer_v according_a to_o the_o first_o exposition_n of_o that_o didrachme_fw-la which_o card._n bellarmine_n think_v to_o be_v most_o true_a that_o it_o be_v a_o tribute_n due_a to_o the_o temple_n or_o tabernacle_n and_o not_o to_o caesar_n for_o i_o do_v willing_o grant_v that_o s._n peter_n who_o be_v appoint_v by_o christ_n to_o be_v the_o chief_a governor_n of_o his_o church_n and_o temple_n be_v exempt_v from_o pay_v tribute_n to_o the_o temple_n but_o although_o we_o shall_v admit_v that_o the_o aforesaid_a didrachme_fw-la be_v a_o tribute_n due_a to_o caesar_n and_o not_o to_o the_o temple_n yet_o from_o those_o word_n of_o our_o saviour_n no_o sufficient_a argument_n can_v be_v draw_v to_o prove_v that_o s._n peter_n and_o especial_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o apostle_n be_v by_o the_o law_n of_o god_n exempt_v from_o pay_v tribute_n and_o much_o less_o from_o temporal_a subjection_n to_o heathen_a prince_n 25_o first_o for_o that_o we_o may_v probable_o answer_v with_o jansenius_n and_o abulensis_n that_o christ_n do_v speak_v to_o s._n peter_n in_o the_o plural_a number_n but_o that_o we_o may_v not_o scandalize_v they_o not_o for_o that_o s._n peter_n be_v bind_v to_o pay_v tribute_n only_o by_o reason_n of_o scandal_n but_o either_o because_o our_o saviour_n do_v speak_v of_o his_o own_o person_n use_v the_o plural_a number_n for_o the_o singular_a as_o it_o be_v usual_a especial_o among_o great_a person_n we_o be_v wont_v say_v s._n epiphanius_n manichy_n epiphanius_n in_o the_o heresy_n of_o the_o manichy_n to_o speak_v singular_a thing_n plural_a and_o plural_a singular_a for_o we_o say_v we_o have_v tell_v you_o and_o we_o have_v see_v you_o and_o we_o come_v to_o you_o and_o yet_o there_o be_v not_o two_o who_o speak_v but_o one_o who_o be_v present_a or_o else_o because_o the_o scandal_n which_o christ_n shall_v have_v give_v will_v in_o some_o sort_n have_v redound_v to_o s._n peter_n as_o be_v a_o mediator_n in_o that_o business_n and_o therefore_o as_o well_o affirm_v jansenius_n 17._o jansenius_n in_o concord_n euang._n cap._n 69._o in_o mat._n 17._o our_o saviour_n do_v pay_v tribute_n for_o himself_o only_o to_o avoid_v scandal_n &_o for_o s._n peter_n to_o honour_v he_o as_o with_o a_o certain_a reward_n for_o his_o faith_n obedience_n and_o diligence_n as_o a_o mediator_n of_o this_o business_n and_o a_o executor_n of_o the_o miracle_n of_o find_v the_o stater_n in_o the_o fish_n mouth_n or_o as_o barradius_fw-la the_o jesuite_n and_o other_o do_v affirm_v 32._o affirm_v in_o cap_n 17._o mat._n â—om_n 2._o lib._n 10._o cap._n 32._o to_o honour_v he_o above_o the_o rest_n as_o the_o prince_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o the_o head_n of_o the_o church_n see_v abulensis_n q._n 198._o 199._o and_o 200._o in_o cap._n 17._o mat._n and_o barradius_fw-la upon_o this_o place_n 26_o second_o although_o we_o shall_v grant_v that_o our_o saviour_n do_v for_o some_o special_a cause_n exempt_v s._n peter_n from_o pay_v tribute_n to_o caesar_n either_o by_o a_o personal_a privilege_n or_o else_o real_a and_o descend_v to_o his_o successor_n it_o do_v not_o therefore_o follow_v that_o he_o do_v exempt_v he_o from_o all_o civil_a subjection_n to_o temporal_a prince_n as_o neither_o do_v it_o follow_v that_o because_o the_o child_n of_o king_n for_o that_o their_o good_n and_o their_o father_n be_v common_a or_o any_o of_o the_o king_n servant_n be_v by_o special_a privilege_n exempt_v from_o pay_v tribute_n they_o be_v therefore_o exempt_v from_o all_o civil_a subjection_n and_o allegiance_n to_o the_o king_n 27_o three_o for_o that_o there_o be_v no_o probability_n in_o my_o judgement_n that_o either_o christ_n do_v by_o those_o word_n intend_v to_o exempt_v the_o rest_n of_o the_o apostle_n see_v that_o there_o be_v no_o mention_n at_o all_o make_v of_o they_o in_o that_o place_n or_o also_o that_o this_o privilege_n of_o exemption_n be_v extend_v to_o s._n peter_n and_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o apostle_n in_o regard_n only_o that_o they_o be_v of_o the_o spiritual_a family_n or_o church_n of_o christ_n i_o say_v of_o the_o spiritual_a family_n for_o that_o i_o will_v not_o deny_v but_o that_o as_o they_o be_v of_o his_o corporal_a family_n and_o live_v with_o he_o here_o on_o earth_n and_o have_v no_o corporal_a good_n but_o such_o as_o belong_v to_o christ_n they_o be_v exempt_v from_o pay_v tribute_n but_o not_o from_o civil_a subjection_n to_o heathen_a prince_n because_o the_o exemption_n of_o servant_n with_o their_o master_n or_o of_o those_o who_o be_v of_o the_o family_n of_o king_n child_n with_o the_o king_n child_n themselves_o be_v not_o ground_v in_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n but_o only_o in_o a_o certain_a congruity_n and_o custom_n of_o man_n from_o which_o custom_n this_o argument_n to_o exempt_v the_o apostle_n for_o that_o they_o be_v of_o christ_n family_n be_v draw_v but_o there_o be_v no_o such_o custom_n among_o nation_n that_o the_o servant_n or_o family_n of_o king_n child_n or_o of_o the_o king_n himself_o be_v exempt_v from_o pay_v tribute_n although_o the_o child_n of_o king_n have_v no_o other_o good_n than_o which_o be_v their_o father_n be_v exempt_v as_o card._n bellarmine_n a_o little_a above_o affirm_v but_o howsoever_o neither_o the_o servant_n to_o king_n child_n nor_o the_o king_n child_n themselves_o be_v exempt_v from_o civil_a subjection_n or_o from_o the_o directive_a or_o coercive_v power_n of_o the_o king_n 28_o and_o therefore_o neither_o fa._n suarez_n who_o handle_v this_o question_n at_o large_a dare_v affirm_v that_o from_o those_o word_n of_o our_o saviour_n it_o can_v certain_o but_o only_o probable_o be_v gather_v that_o this_o exemption_n be_v extend_v to_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o apostle_n i_o answer_v say_v he_o sine_fw-la he_o in_o defence_n fidâ—_n caâ—â—o_n &_o 〈◊〉_d lib._n 4_o cap._n 8._o in_o sine_fw-la that_o it_o be_v true_a that_o christ_n do_v not_o say_v plain_o that_o the_o family_n be_v exempt_v with_o the_o child_n neither_o do_v it_o follow_v by_o any_o evident_a or_o necessary_a consequence_n and_o therefore_o the_o aforesaid_a opinion_n for_o as_o much_o as_o belong_v to_o this_o part_n be_v neither_o of_o faith_n nor_o altogether_o certain_a nevertheless_o it_o be_v most_o likely_a that_o this_o extension_n to_o