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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A14046	The huntyng & fyndyng out of the Romishe fox whiche more then seuen yeares hath bene hyd among the bisshoppes of Englong [sic] after that the Kynges hyghnes had comma[n]ded hym to be dryuen out of hys realme. Whosoeuer happeneth upon thys book, if he loue god beter than man, et the Kynges hyghnes better then the bysshopes fals hypocrisi, let hym gyue it to the Kyng, that he may rede it before the bysshopes condemn it.	Turner, William, d. 1568.; Wraghton, William, pseud. aut	1543 (1543)	STC 24353; ESTC S104959	47,430	90

in Englond if ye will so thē i nede to reson nomore to proue that ye hold still the pope in Englond If the chirche signifi a nother sort of men then i haue made mention of / tell me in your answere to thes my questiones and tell me who made the canon law if the popes of Rome haue not made it Then thys solution will not serue / that the canon law / is the law of the chirche / seing that it cannot be the law of any chirche but of a popish chirch for it is of the popes makyng But if it wer granted that the canon law wer the law of the chirche / yit ye can not deny but the traditiones ordinances and ceremōies before rehersed ar of the popes makyng Then thys argument standeth vn solutede / whosoeuer holdeth still the popes doctine holdeth still the pope / But ye hold still the popes doctrine / ergo ye hold still the pope / If ye answer we tak them not as the popes ceremonies ordināces all thoghe we know that the pope hathe taught them and made them but as the kynges ceremonies ordinances / for the kyng hath cōmanded in a certayn proclamatiō that no man schuld from the tyme of that proclamation be so hardy as to call the ceremonies ordinances that wer in the chirche of Englond at that tyme / the popes ordinances and ceremonies but the kynges ceremonies and ordininances all thogh it wer out of all dout that the pope had mad them taught them / But now ye gentle men of the clergi which was the caus of thys proclamatiō / answer me if it pleas yow to a question or ij If Francis the kyng of France shuld make a proclamation that all the noble actes and dedes of kyng Alexander the conquerour / all the actes of Sardanapali shuld be no more called and taken for Alexanders and Sardanapali actes and dedes but for hys dedes shuld all the actes and dedes of Alexander and Sardanapali be therfore the kyng of Frances dedes and actes i thynk no. For if by proclamation men myght make other mennes dedes and actes theyr oun actes / then myght Sardanopalus haue robbed Alexander of hys noble actes and made them hys / and so a uery cowhert myght haue as many noble actes as the best warrier in al the world If the kyng of Portugale shuld command in a proclamation that Aristotel Platoes workes shuld no mor be called Aristoteles workes and Platoes but hys workes / shuld Aristotel Platoes workes by thes meanes be cum hys workes I thynk nay / for if the kynge of Portugagal myght take Aristotoles workes frō Aristotel then myght Menius becū Maro and the most vnlerned in a cūtre might haue as noble workes as the best leaned man in the world / If the kyng of denmark shuld set out a proclamation that all the ceremonies of Moses law as offering up of calues and frankincens shuld nomore be called taken for Moses ceremonies but for hys shuld not Moses ceremonies cōtinue Moses ceremonies still for all the proclamatiō I think so Thē is theyr no proclamatiō that can disposses the the pope of hys ceremonies and constitutiones but the ceremonies ordināces whiche was hys xij yere ago shall be hys ceremonies and ordinances still thoge a thousand proclamationes shuld command the cōtrari / Ye must fyndde out an other hole to hyde your father the fox in for here he can lurk no lenger Neuertheless lyke faythfull foxy childer ye haue don the best that lay in yow to couer hym For about seuen yere ago when men preched ernestly agaynst the pope / and he with all hys ordinances was lyke to bedryuen out of Englōd / a certain mā to set hym forward gathered together out of platina and such other writers / what popes had made all the ceremōies that ar now in the chirche / and to euery ceremoni he assygned on pope or other / whiche thyng made the ceremonies begin to be less regarded then they wer before / Then ye feryng that they shuld be dryuē out of the realm with theyr father if they were taken for the popes ordinances / by your frendes ye procured broght to pass / that the ceremonies whiche the pope made shuld no more be called the popes ceremonies / but the kynges ceremonies And thys was sett vp and proclāed in euery marketh town In doyng of whiche thyng as myche as lay in yow ye made the kyng pope / for if the popes actes and the kynges be all on / then is the kyng the pope or ellis partner with the pope / Whether say ye maketh the name of the pope / the pope / or the popes actes and dedes If ye say that the name of the pope maketh a pope then haue ye many popes in Englond for theyr ar many that ar called popes in Englond which neuer the less hate the pope more then ye do / The name of the Pope maketh not thē the pop / but the actes and dedes / of the pope / As not euery man that is accused of theft and called a thefe / is a thief / but he alon is a thief that dothe the actes dedes of a thief / so it is not the name of the pope that maketh the pope but the popes actes dedes Then it folowethe well / lykewys as he that layeth assygneth to a tru man the dedes and actes of a thief maketh a tru man as myche as lyeth in hym / a thiefe / so ye gyuyng layng to the kyng the actes dedes of the pope / as myche as lay in yow made the kyng the pope / Call ye theyr for no more the popes canon law / the law of the chirch of Englōd / call no more from henceforward the popes ordināces the kynges ordinances for fere of it that foloweth It is playn then that ye hold still the popes canō law and thoghe ye haue banisshed hys name for a face / that ye hold still hys bookes and hys ceremonies Then answer me to a questiō / Ar theyr not many thinges in Iohan frithes bokes / that ar both good and godly and agreyng withe the word of god And then tell me why haue ye cōdemned all hys bokes for heresi and the reders of them and hauers of them for heretykes for not mo then ij or thre hereses euen after your iudgment / seing theyr ar so many other godly thynges that ar no heresi / If ye say thoghe ther be many good thynges in hys bokes what nede Christen men to sek our good thynges out of an heretikes book / seing theyr ar bokes i now be syde and therfor / we burn the heretikes bokes wih the heretikes / lest the heresi that the heretikes taught shuld sprede by the meanes of the bokes / for as the voice of an heretike hearde maketh heretikes so the bokes of an heretik red make heretikes / therfor we burn the on with

cannot be the husband of on wyfe ergo he must haue on wyfe If ye expoud thys place of Poul / Oportet Episcopum esse vnius vxoris maritū / hoc est fuisse vnius vxoris maritum / a Bisshop must be the husband of on wyfe / that is a Byshop must haue ben the husbande of on wyfe / Ia● of yow / whether all thes thynges that paul speaket of here / ar requieed in a man that is to be chosen a Bisshop / or ar they required all / in hym on ly / that is chosen all redy / or theyar required both in one that is to be chosen and in hym that is all redy chosen / If ye say that thes properties ar required all / in hym alon that is chosen all redy / then is he eligible and may be chosen to be a Bysshop / whych is a dronkerd / a murderer hath ij wyues so that affter that he is chosen / he benon of thys sort If ye say that thes proerties / to be fautles / to bethe hussband of on wyfe / watchyng sobre / louly / herberus / c. be required in hym on ly that is not yit chosen a Bysshop but standeth in the election to be chosen / and not in hym that is chosen all redy / then may a Bisshop after that he is chosen once and made Bisshop be / full of fautes the husband of many wyues a sleper a dronkerd / hye mynded / and vnherberos whiche thyng / to grant is an vnconuenient / Therfor ye must grant that thes properties ar both required in hym that standeth to be chosen / and in hym that is chosen all redi Therfore bothe the man that standerh to be chosen and he that is now chosen all redy a Bisshop must be faurles / the husband of on wife modest herberous watchyng sobre c. Thorfore ether grant that paul requiret in a Bisshop that is chosen that he haue nomo wiues but on / that he may haue on / or grant that Paule requireth not in a Bysshop that is made all redy to be herberous For thos thynges that Paul sheaket of in on mode / on tence / in on text / all tegether / he dothe elike require at on tyme / or ellis reproue in on tyme / then seyng that he sayeth in on mode tence text together a Bisshop must be the hushāde of on wyfe / sobre and herberous / then doth he clyke require that a Bysshop shuld hauē a wyfe or nomo wyues but on as he requireth that he shuld be herberous sobre / Then if hauyng of a wyfe be long not to a bysthop then sobbrenes kepyng of hospitalite be lōgeth not to hym If he be not bound to kep hospitalite / he must haue no landes to kep hospitalite / If ye say that oportet esse must signifi oportet fuisse that is / must be / must be taken on ly for must haue ben thē it is not required by your glose in a mā that is a Bisshop to be fautles / to haue but on wyfe / to be watchyng / sobre / modest / herberous / fit to teache / no wyn drinker / no smiter / not gyuē to fylthy lucre / but it is sufficiēt if he haue bene all thes / He is sufficiēt Bisshop by your expositiō if he haue ben fautles / thogh he be as ful of open crimes / as a leopard is ful of spottes / It forceth not / if he haue iij wyues xxx hores so that he hathe had no mo wyues but on / It maket no mater if he be a slepyng and adom dog so that he hath ben watchyng and diligēt / he nede not to be sobre when he is once made Bisshop / but he may occupi all maner of exces so that he hath be sobre before he was Bysshope / It skilleth not whether he be modest or no / it is inoghe if he haue bē / It is not required in hym to be harberous / fit to teache / no wyn dryncker no smiter after that he is made a Bisshope so that when he was a scolar in cambridg or orford he hathe ben herberous fit to teache no smiter no dronkerd lye may be then after that ye be once made Bisshopes / by your turnyng of esse in to futsse / full of all sinnes / the husbande 's of an C. wyues slepyng dogges / dronckerdes / and murderers / And if a man say vnto yow Bysshopes / Paul sayet ye may not be murderers ye may not / be dronkerdes ye may haue no mo wyues then on ye may by iuglyng of esse in to fuisse that is by iuglyng of be in to haue bene / say yis that thys is not the meanyng of Paul / for Paul requireth not now when we ar once made Bysshoppes that we shuld be sobre and haue but on wife / but that before we wer Bisshopes we shuld haue ben sobre and the husbandes / of on wife / et cet And so now we may be what we list / wherfor i meruel the les that so many Bysshoppes which haue ben in canbrydge and exford befor they wer Bisshopes / watchyng and fit to teache / ar be cummed slepyng dogges that dar not bark / and more fit to flatter then to teache goddes word puerly with out the leuin of the doctores seing that they ar discharged frō all thyng that Paul requireth of aryght bysshop by thys glos a bysshop must be / that is a bisshop must haue ben But acordyng to theyr glos / the honest comon peple speaketh of them / after thys wyse / how continuethe doctor Ericeus in preaching goddes word and in promotyng the gospel / an other answereth by and by / qui fuit But ye care as myche for the cōmune reporte as an hore careth to be called a hore / ye be so far past al shame But to conclude thys mater That doctrine that forbiddeth it that Christ ordened is contrari to Christ / but your doctrine forbiddeth it that Christ ordened ergo your doctrine is contrari to the doctrine of Christe Is it agreyng withe the word of god that stewes shall be allowed and manteyned in a Christen kyngdom I reken no. The stewes is a place where as the deuel may be openly serued with out any pomishment / but in a christē kyng don the deuelles seruice oght not to be suffered openly to be don with out pomishment / therfor the stewes ough not to be suffered in a Christen kyngdom Where as the lyfe is alowed the learnyng that teacheth the lyuyng is also alowed Then if ye alow the cause ye must nedes alowe the effect / ye alow the stewes therfore ye alow hordom / if ye alow hordom ye approue the doctrin that teachech hordom But that is heresi therfor to alow stewes is to alow heresi / If th● at ye wold suffer prestes to mari in any place of engōld mē myght gather