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A07811 A iust and moderate answer to a most iniurious, and slaunderous pamphlet, intituled, An exact discouery of Romish doctrine in case of conspiracie and rebellion Wherein the innocency of Catholike religion is proued, and euery obiection returned vpon the Protestant accuser, and his owne profession. With licence of superior. Broughton, Richard. 1606 (1606) STC 18188; ESTC S112914 49,079 64

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regular and others must doe neyther all the priests of this Nation nor any one except disobedient to his superior was guilty of this conspiracy or did or doth eyther intend designe or practise such irreligious wickednesse And both holy and happy is that religion to be esteemed among whose professors in this The di●course of the la●e intended treas●n Kingdome so many thousands and in the daies of so manifold disgraces and miseries for that faith so small a company of cheefest Agents or Assistants are charged with that offence Wee haue heard read seene and tasted of many conspiracies and rebellions by protestants and more and greater by them proportion of time and Countries obserued where both Kings whole kingdomes and Common-weales haue beene put in hazard and yet they were dogmaticall men in that profession accounted Prophets Apostles Euangelists and conspired thousands for euery one particular person in this recited and yet their conspiracies were not condemned by their Preachers and Doctors but iustified and applauded not forbidden but commanded by their spirituall maisters and their rebells slaine in such actuall seditions against Princes not reproued but approued and canonized for holy Martyrs When all things be contrary in this case by the protestant disourse it selfe of this tragedy And if proofe can be made of any one of holy priestly order to haue beene an Agent in so vnholy businesse he will be as much abandoned of all good priests and Catholikes as of the protestants themselues for that disloyalty The ignominy and perpetuall reproach wherewith the names of vnhappy Watson and Clarke are stained with all of our religion will be a witnesse in any case of like comparison The seuenth Reason confuted and returned CHAP. VIII HIs seuenth Sillogisme is this Seeing it is in a manner all one to commit a villante and to commend it we may argue that whosoeuer shall iustifie acts of treasons and parricides are not vnguilty of the same crimes To this I grant and adde which is euidently proued before that the cheefest teachers and professors of Protestancy doe not onely iustifie but commend canonize for holy encourage command and reward such proceedings therefore they are not vnguilty of the same crimes And whereas he setteth downe for his lesse Proposition But all Priests doe iustifie such heinous parricides Ergo I haue proued before both by their owne authority continuall experience and at this time that such assertions be most false and slanderous But hee will maintaine his sentence because Bellarmine saith Many Popes haue worthily depriued many Princes of their regall authority The examples be in Leo 3. Fredericke 1. Otho 5. and Childericke King of France To Obiections of which nature I haue often answered before And sincere dealing would haue alleaged the true causes of such processe with those Princes which take away the enuie of this matter proue a flat disparitie in the cases compared and bring eternall shame to many Protestant rebellions and often deposing Princes for meaner quarrells and for no true cause at all The rebellions and attempts be too many to be recited The examples of Princes deposed or depriued of their Kingdomes Countries or territories by Protestants meaner then Popes be more in so short a time then in all the papall gouernment Queene Mary of Scotland the King of Spaine and Enfanta in Flanders the Emperor in diuers parts of Germany and elsewhere in former time the present Emperour in Hungary the Prince of Transyluania the Prince of Geneua Marquesse of Embden Duke of Loraine king of Denmarke king of France king of Sweueland in their territories surprized inuaded taken sold to enemies or kept by rebbells no such thing in the Popes cases neuer making themselues the richer by others losses yeelde testimony in this businesse Next commeth in a gratias agimus for the death of King Henry the third of France by the Author of the booke de iusta abdicat Hen. 3. which was a Catholike But I tell him that also a Catholike Doctor Barkeley a professor at Mussipont hath confuted that booke which also may serue for other citations from thence which I haue answered before He accuseth Cardinall Alane for approuing the rendering of Dauontore vnto the hands of the King of Spaine the true owner By which he condemneth himselfe to be within the compasse of his owne conclusion of rebellion and to iustifie such acts of treason for all the world can witnesse that Towne truly to belong to that King Then not the surrendering of it to the lawfull Prince which hee condemneth but the wrongfull withholding of it which he approueth was treason and rebellion And such as this discouerer is such also the rest of his Clergy protestant brethren in England must bee esteemed euen in this point for in their name the first defence of those disobedient and seditious Netherlanders was vndertaken And so both by publike positions and practises they teach and iustifie actes of treason and rebellion both in themselues and their euangelicall brethren so many yeares in so many disloyall attempts rapines intrusions dis-inheritings deposings piracies murthers and extreamest outrages against their naturall and true Soueraignes and not in one onely act and oration one of Gallobelgicus excessiue reportes made of the death of Henry the third in France Ergo Protestanrs are not vnguilty of these crimes The eight Reason confuted and returned vpon Protestants CHAP. IX THus he frameth his next Argument Those Snakes that do● naturally sting so soone as they get warmth may not be harbored in the bosome of the Common-wealth To which proposition I say concedo further adde by such assertion that the protestant Preachers and professors of the reformed Churches may not be harbored in any kingdome or ciuill Country for they are proued before naturally to sting and kill if they can so soone as they haue obtained power to performe it Which I will now also more plentifully demonstrate in this chapter when I haue exempted Catholikes from the accusation in the second proposition which is But all Priests professe rebellions as soone as they can presume of their strength Ergo. His cheefest proofe of this is from Bannes who as he telleth vs teacheth that a King may be deposed where there is euidens noticia criminis euident knowledge of his sinne I answer That such opinion is to be reproued as against not onely Cunerus Nauarre c. but the great Laterane generall Councell to which Bannes and all Catholikes must submit their sentences which also dischargeth vs of this forged slaunder and condemneth the accuser of vniust calumniation But he vrgeth further from the same Author holding the English Catholikes excused quia non se eximunt ex superiorum potestate nec bellum contra eos gerunt quia non suppetunt illis vires ob sequentia pericula which this discouerer thus translateth The English Catholikes who now doe not take Armes against the Protestants are excused because they want sufficient power I answer If this
but conspired with the Turke himselfe both against them and the whole christian world And their successours in Hungary these last yeares no better behaued themselues these directly admitted the Turks entry the first endeuoured to performe it as their owne Caspaectalio hist Symp. ad Sabell●c Defens Stap. contr Illerich Sleid petr Frar ora● cont Sectar Sleidan l. 22. letters of conspiracy and the comming of the Bassa of Buda against Ferdinando into Pannonia were witnesses And Sleydan himselfe a German Protestant giueth testimony that this was the doctrine of their diuines of Magdenburge publikely teaching in defence of s●ch rebellions that such wa●res were lawfull For Sweueland the protestants themselues giue also testimony Sweueland Chit chron an 1593 1594. that the Catholike King thereof was inforced by his rebellious gospellers to make himselfe a subiect vnto their designements and condiscend that no Catholike should beare office in that kingdome and catholike seruice for the King should be confined only to his owne Chappell And what rebellions did the Protestant Petr. Fa● orat contr sect Nobillitie by aduise of their Cleargie raise against their Prince for this cause in former times And who is ignorant of their still continued seditions and rebellions In Denmarke the same dogmaticall opinions were both publikely defended and put in execution What insurrections and rebellions Petr. Frar sup d●d the Protestants of that kingdome maintaine by this title Did they not assault the King vnder yeares and in minority with open warres Did they not confederate and colleague themselues with the professed enemies of the kingdome sell the Cities to strangers challenge regall power to their rebellions and such like intollerable treasons Let vs come to Heluetia and especially Geneua the mother Church of the ●eformed Maister Caluine the supreame head of the Consistory there hath told vs before that Princes not agreeing Bez. l. iur magist in supqit Sutclif answ l. to suphl with him in religion are rather to be spitted vpon than obeyed they ●re not worthy to be numbred among men they are bereaued of all authority Beza his successour in place succceded him also both in opinion and practise arming subiects against their Prince And as Maister Doctor Sutliffe saith in effect ouerthrowing all authority of Christian Kings and Magistrates and giuing power to subiects not onely to take Armes but to depose and kill the Prince if he impugne their religion And accordingly in practise the Protestants there as Caluine himselfe Doctor Sutliffe Caluin Sutel sup kiru pret discipl and the Archbishop of Canterbury be witnesses deposed their Soueraigne from his temporall right and euer since continue in that state of rebellion And not content with rebellion to one and their owne Lord and Ruler they celebrated a Councell wherein it was concluded that King Francis the second then king Petr. Fra● orat contr sectar de●ens Reg. relig of France his wife the Queene his children Queene mother the Nobility and all good Magistrates of that kingdome should by a certaine day by treacherous deceits be put to death In Burgundy a like Assembly and Conuenticle was called kept and therein decreed at Cabillon that three wormes must be taken forth of the world these men were not content to make their opinion and practise to one or a few kingdomes first the Church of Rome secondly the noble families of antient houses and thirdly all ciuill pollicy gouernment and iurisdiction How faithfully the Protestant Netherlanders laboured by all seditions and rebellion so many yeares and still perseuer to haue the canon of this holy Councell obserued it is too lamentable to be repeated that subiects should maintaine it or any Christians should applaud it Let vs come to France Were not Caluine Beza Othomanus Spiphanius Claud. de sanct de Saccad eglif fol 58. 55. and such publike and dogmaticall Protestants the eggers and instruments of all those slaughters rebellions and oppressions in that Monarchie wherein they tooke all law authoritie and Petr. Frar sup execution thereof from the King and Magistrates They conspired in one night to rob all the Chu●ches in France how did they depose Magistrates fell Cities giue the spoiles to strangers c. what murthering of priests and religious men hanging cutting bowelling rending strangling fleaing drowning stabbing shooting through with gunnes and arrowes of religious Priests wearing chaines of their eares cut off about their neckes how many were buried aliue and little infants themselues cut in sunder ●nforcing men to eate their vndecent parts cut off and rosted and opening the bellies when they liued to see whether they digested them or no I cease to recount the vnspeakeable tyranny of those Protestant traytors whom no conditions peace or graunt could satisfie After the remembred conspiracy against King Francis his Genebr chron ann 1560. Mother wife children Nobles and Magistrates at Geneua in the yeare 1560. within two yeares after 1562. they raised such rebellions and ciuill warres against King Charles the ninth that as Genebrande writeth France was more endammaged by one yeares ciuill warres than in all warres past by strangers The King of Nauarre and Duke Nyuers with others were slaine the Duke of Guise treacherously murthered by Pultrotus Canickname in France for that fact suborned by Beza and the Protestant Admirall and they enforced the Kings to grant them peace and conditions but they kept neither for in the yeare 1567. they made a new rebellion and being subdued accept againe of peace but Genebr chron 1567. Geneb chro● in these ye●●es breake it againe for in the yeare 1569. they rebell and in the next yeare 1570. and yet in the yeare 1575. breake againe into rebellion And such were the miserable murthers and cala●●●ies which they brought to that distressed kingdome that i● 〈…〉 first ciuill warres and rebellions aboue 100000. were slaine as Gaspar Coligne a principall Captaine in those rebellions witnessed in an oration before the King And when Charles the ninth forbade by Edict that no such Protestant should publikely H●stor F●ucase Popelim li. 27. stat Relig. in gal Sub. Carol. 9. lib. 3 pag. 347. preach thirteene thousands of them armed assembled at such a sermon in the suburbes of Paris it selfe and their rebellious malice and disobedience did not onely extend to their liuing Kings but indured against the dead as they most rebelliously persecuted King Francis when he liued so being dead they burnt his heart in rebellious de●pight So they dealt with King Lewis the eleuenth defaced his Image dismembring euery part thereof and burned his body Concerning this vnited Kingdome of Britaine I haue spoken before sufficientlie for the confusion of all Protestants thereof for euer I will adde something and first for Scotland Was not their Gospell there planted by force and violence to Princes and by the publique Dogmaticall decrees of Caluin and Knoxe Knox hist of the church of Scotland pag. 143. 144. Holins hist Scot. anno 1546.