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A90963 Clerico-classicum, or, The clergi-allarum to a third war. Being an answer to a pamphlet, intituled, A serious and faithfull representation of the judgements of ministers of the Gospel within the province of London, contained in a letter from them to the Generall and his Councell of Warre. Delivered to his Excellency by some of the subscribers, Jan. 18. 1648. Which may likewise serve for a brief answer to their late vindication, relating to their former actings, touching the capitall punishment of the person of the King. / By John Price, citizen of London. Price, John, Citizen of London. 1649 (1649) Wing P3340; Thomason E544_1; ESTC R204338 47,303 74

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the ●ing Pu● them in minde to be subject to Principalities and powers Let every soule be subject to the higher powers c. Yet we heard not of these things from you when the mutinous Apprenti●es and others offered violence upon the Houses formerly spoken of no noise then of such Scriptures no putting m●n in minde to subject to Principalities and powers no such word as let every soule be subject to the higher powers c. As if these Scriptures were ad●led since that time Can you presume that men are so blind dull and 〈◊〉 as not to observe such partiall and crafty handling of the Scripturer word and will of God doe not these practises of yours● s●ttle and establish atheisme irrel●gion and profanen●sse among men making them to looke upon Religion the Gospell the Word of God a● upon a meere pee●e of jugling cheating and deceiving the World and should we take your counsell which you give us from the words of Solomon ●●ddle not with them that are given to change we should all turne S●paratists from you and your wayes who have beene as full of changes at the Vanes of your Steeples one while stirring up the people against the King and for the Parliament writing Books answering objections and using all manner of endeavours that way that so the Bishops may be dethroned and you advanced witnesse many of your Sermons preached before the Houses and else-where another while stirring up the people against the Parliament and for the King left the Independents should hinder your advance as you did of late in your Prayers and Preaching expressing greater malignity against the Parliament and their party and greater 〈◊〉 for the King and his interest then those very Ministers whose very places you possese they being sequestred and cast out for the tenths of that Anti-parliamentary malignancy which you have vented and indeed this is according to the example of your Fathers before you for it was generally observed of the Clergy of olde that in Henry the eighth ● time they were first for the Popes supremacy and then with the King for the Kings With Edward the sixth they were Protestants with Queene Mary Papists againe With Queen Elizabeth they faced about and of 9400. promotions not too of them stood firm Nay does not our owne age give sufficient testimony of the Clergies changes nay are not many of your selves living instances thereof have not you been for Bishops and against Bishops for Common-prayer for Geremonies and against them Have you not sworne and subscribed and subscribed and sworn over and over againe and againe conformity and subjection hereunto and yet cast away all and entered into Vowes and Covenants against all Can Dr. Burges Master Cauton and severall others of you deny this and yet now advise us not to meddle with them that are given to change You say page 5. It was deemed a horrible violation of the Priviledges of Parliaments in the King to come to seize upon the five Members in the beginning of this Parliament And you quote the opinion of the House for that purpose in their Order of the 3d of January 1641. What violation of their priviledges then must this needs be so and so aggravated to seize upon many c. I may answer you by telling you that you never 〈◊〉 that Order of the House in aggravating of the Appren●ion ●orcing of the House the last yeare and to give you any other ●nswer were but to beate the aire for 〈◊〉 are like to heare no reply to it having the art of neglecting all that hath been ●poken by way of satisfaction from the Army to this purpos●●nd insisting still upon matter of fact as if 〈◊〉 thereof ●ad been given in justification You tell us that both Houses of Parliament are joyntly cons●●ed with the King intrusted with the supreame Authority of the ●ingdome Page 6. I desire to know what you meane by the King his ●●●son or his Authority If his Person then have we been 〈◊〉 and you the cause of it stirring us up hereunto If you 〈…〉 Authority then let your Readers revise your Letter 〈◊〉 and they will see you say nothing but according 〈◊〉 your custome blinde the people which is not like that 〈…〉 and candor becomming Ministers of the Gospell of Jesus ●hrist But the maine thing you insist upon is the businesse of the Protestation Vow and Covenant and the Solemn League Covenant by these sacred gin● as you use them you presume 〈◊〉 the Scots Commissioners heretofore to catch us all 〈◊〉 ●our net doing little service thereby except to draw men into dishonorable thoughts of them and as you doe in 〈…〉 ●our Function of it selfe honourable and of God yet you ●ake it contemptible and vile even so in reference to these of themselves just and good you and chiefly you render them as an Almanack out of date for what doe you make especially of the Covenant but as some doe of the Scriptures a nose of wax making it to serve all their opinions to maintain all interests for doe not all men know that you were the men pressing people to oppose with-stand and fight against the King and that upon penalty of breaking the COVENANT of God the COVENANT of peace conjuring men as they would answer it before the Lord as they would not be counted COVENANT breakers Truce-breakers false to the COVENANT of their God c. to goe out to fight against the Lords Enemies to fight the Lords battles c. And now againe doe not you make the Covenant to serve the Malignants interest and the late Kings interest by pressing that article of the Covenant of preserving the Kings person honour and dignity c. and that with the same straines of sanctimony viz. by calling it the Oath of God the Covenant of God making Malignants jeere and laugh at you and those that did first hate the Covenant and some that never yet 〈◊〉 the Covenant to plead and argue our Covenant-breaking c. Did not some of you demand I● this preserving the person of the King by cutting off his head Mr. Yenkin Mr. Love Mr. Case Mr. Canton c. by murthering him by 〈◊〉 the Land with the blood of their Soveraigne c. And did not the King heretofore and Malignants with the like reason demand of you is this to preserve the person of the King to fight against him even in pitch'd Battles in this to maintaine his 〈◊〉 and dignity to charge him with all the blood that hath been 〈◊〉 c. But more particularly touching the Protestation May 5. 1641. the Vow and Covenant made afterwards and the solemn League and Covenant made after that From these mountaine● you strive though with very much devotion as Bala●● once did to curse the Army and Parliament when loe your cursings prove so only to their Authors and like the Conjurers in the Acts of the Apostles when the name of Jesus whom Paul preached was used as a piece
Standard against you then you stirre up the people from another Article of the Covenant engaging the discovery of all such as have beene or shall be Incendiaries Malignants or evill instruments by hindering thereformation of Religion and those pas●ges obliging the preservation of the rights and priviledges of Par●ament c. If the Parliament stand in your way and joyning ●ith the contrary party may hopefully help you slye to tha●●rt and article of the Covenant engaging for the preservation 〈◊〉 defence of the Kings Majesties person and Authority c. As 〈◊〉 the Scripture in the severall vein●s thereof and the Solemne ●ague and Covenant in all the Articles thereof intended ●othing else but Presbyterie and as if Presbyterie were no●●hing else but the lifting you up into an absolute indepen●ent uncontroulable Supremacy in all Ecclesiasticall dignity ●nd glory and by your example are all contrary paties taught 〈◊〉 plead the Covenant those that you call Sectaries Schisma●eks c. plead the Covenant engaging each to go● before other 〈◊〉 matters of Reformation The Presbyterian pleads Cove●●nt-engaging conformity as they urge with the Church of ●●●tland The Parliamenteer pleads Covenant engaging to ●●serve the rights and privledges of Parliament The Royallist ●●●ads Covenant engaging to preserve and defend the Kings Majesties Person and Authority The Armists plead Covenant ●●gaging to preserve the liberties of the Kingdome c. So that you have made the Covenant a meere contradictions thing like unto one of the Diabolicall Oracles of the Heathens spea●●ng nothing certaine but ambiguitie● but let us a little examine how pertinently you bring i● in in this place to shew the Parliament and Armie their wickednesse in going about to ●ring the late King to his Tryall for his vitious bloody and tyrannicall Government you put them in minde of their Solemn League and Covenant to preserve defend the Kings Majesties Person and Authority in the preservation and defence of 〈◊〉 Religion and Liberties of the kingdomes that the world may 〈◊〉 witnesse with our Consciences of our loyalty and that wee have 〈◊〉 thoughts or intentiens to diminish his Maj●sties just power and greatnesse First We were bound to preserve and defend his Person when we first took this Covenant and at that time you know very well you stirred up the people to sight against his Army though his Person was the Leader thereof which presume● first that either you perswaded the people against the 〈◊〉 of your owne consciences or secondly that you conceived that though his Person should be smitten into the chambers of Death by those that did fight against his Army yet they did not break the Covenant If so then there is a case wherein the KINGS Person may be ●ut off without breach of Covenant Secondly The oligation is for the preservation of his Person AVTHORITY not for his Person simply but his Person and Authority If both come in competition then the greater is to be prefer'd before the lesser that is his Authoririty before his Person If his Authority that is that by which the execution of all just lawes of the Kingdome is legally performed enjoynes the cutting off of Murtherers and Traitors by death if his Person be found to be a Murtherer or Traitor then either his authority or person must dye If his Authority dies then no Murtherers and Traitors or any other Delinquents must die or suffer for what reason can be given th●t the greatest Traitor or Murtherer should be spared and not others The nearer relations are the greater is the sinne of the violation thereof the King is the Father the Husband of his Countrey if he shall murther his Children his Spouse he deserves a sorer death then common murtherers doe● Treason is the betraying of just trusts the greater the trust the greater the treason the worse the Traitor the Covenant then engageth to preserve his Authority rather then his Parson for though his Person may be engaged against his people yet his authority cannot withstand his people no Prince having authority to destroy kill and murther his people it is true he may have potentiam but not potestatem an opportunity but not an authority might but not right hereunto If his person riseth up against his authority and his authority against his person if one of these must perish the Solemne League and Covenant obligeth us to preserve his authority though with the destruction of his person Thirdly The Covenant binds us to preserve his person in the preservation and defence of the true Religion true Religion doth not command to punish the poore and spare the rich true Religion doth not say if the Subject doe kill and murther rob and steale he shall be so and so punished but if the King doth these things a thousand times over he must not be medled withall by any but God alone true Religion saith he that sheds mans blood by man shall his blood be shed the murtherer shall surely be put to death the revenger of blood shall stay the murtherer c. If then the King be a murtherer true Religion comman●● that he be put to death true Religion as to matter of right or wrong maketh no difference nor hath respect of persone it doth not justifie the wicked though hee be never so great and whereas you may urge that the meaning of those Scriptures have a speciall reference to the Authority by which the murtherer must be put to death by man shall his blood be shed that is by man invested with lawfull authority not by every man or any man and that Court by which the King was condemned and executed was no more a lawfull Authority then the doing thereof by a private person having not the least colour of the law of the La●d for it Saith that profound Lawyer Mr. Love only as solemn a piece of mockery as ever was acted upon the stage of this world and so thin that every eye may pierce it and the solemnity thereof excepted the same with John of Leyden Saith another grave and judicious Divine Mr. Jenkin His life being taken away unjustly and his blood drawn by unrighteousnesse Saith another meek Minister of the Gospel Mr. Cauton an imbr●ing of their hands with the blood of their Soveraign Saith another pathetick and compassionate messenger of Jesus Christ M. Case a staining our Land with innocent blood and notorious scand●lizing the Protestant Religion say many of the Subscri●●● but to answer First This serious and faithfull representation of the judgement of Ministers of the Gospel within the Province of London doe not so much as intimate that the life of a King is in any case to be taken away but rather that the Lords Anointed at no hand must be touched and the truth is it is to be feared that this Doctrine preached by men of this Tribe was one of the great causes both of the Kings wicked and tyranni●ll government and so by consequence of his death and destruction so that if
the King be murthered the Clergy of this Kingdome have murthered him one part of them being the cause of his sin filling and furnishing him with principles of tyranny and another party of them stirring up the people and conjuring them in the name of Christ to rise up against him and to oppose him even unto death Affirming that men guilty of blood must not be at peace with untill it be avenged page as Mr. Love in his Sermon at V●bridge did If so be that true religion which we have Covenanted to preserve doth teach this Doctrine these Subscribers in their serious and faithfull representation of their judgements may doe well to declare it Secondly If so be they will grant that Kings and Rulers are not to be suffered to live as they list to murther kill and destroy their Subjects to burne their Houses and ruine their Families at pleasure and never be accomptable for the same to their people over whom they were set but ought to be brought to punishment as many even of the Presbyterian● and Protestant Divines have held as shall be declared then if Kings may be dealt withall in a judiciary way why are they so angry that the late King was brought to cond●gne punishment if they say they had no authority to judge him I demand who had authority to doe it If they say no Court by the lawes of the Land had any authority hereunto then it would be worth our enquiring whether every man even to the last man left was not bound to lay his hands upon him for the murtherer must not be suffered to live but must surely be put to death the Land must not be defiled and polluted with blood If you say the Lords and Commons should have done it and not the Commons alone it is demanded what if the Lords refused to joyne with them and put them off by an adjournment of their House c. If it be replyed that then the whole Representative should doe it and above halfe of them were violently kept out of the House and detained prisoners making themselves thereby an unparliamentary Junto as Mr. Prinne called them it is replyed that those that were so detained voted a Treaty with the King after the Houses when they were free had resolved voted and declared upon pai● of Treason that there should be no further Addresse unto him nor any Message be carried from him both Kingdomes having declared against any Treaty with the King untill satisfaction for blood already spil● and security for the peace of the Kingdome endeavoured a peace with him and thereby to contract the guilt of the blood of the three Kingdomes upon the Land which those that had power and assistance to prevent ought not to suffer that true religion which wee had covenanted to preserve and defend requires satisfaction for blood And this is considerable that the commands of God to doe Judgement and Justice to put to death the Murtherer is given and delivered in the same phrase and manner of speech a● all the rest of the commands of God Thou shalt not kill thou shalt not steale c. So the lawes of punishing murtherers were given to the children of Israel and not to Moses ●●ly or the Judges and Princes In Israel N●mb 35. 10. And the Congregation was to judge betweene the slayer and the revenger of blood vers 24. Whether it was done wittingly and of purpose or by accident and it is said vers 31. YEE shall take no satisfaction for the life of a Murtherer c. And what is more common in Scripture then this that if the King doe popular wickednesse the people suffer because the King cannot doe such wickednesse but by the people and the people ought no● to suffer the King so to doe And if the people doe wickedly the King not punishing them the King suffers because did he execute judgement and justice the people would not doe wickedly and God hath not exposed either the King to suffer by the people or the people by the King without controul or just punishment proportionable unto their mutuall demerits and that the people should not suffer their Kings Rulers to doe wickedly but ought to punish them according to their demerits hath been the declared judgement of many Protestant Divinee I shall begin with one of these Subscribers not that I think he deserves the honour of priority but that his own● mistake may be the more obvious unto observation It is Mr. Christopher Love Pastor of Anne Aldersgate in his Sermon preached at Vxbridge and printed having spoken before of the blood-guiltinesse of the King yea intimated unnaturall and horrible blood-guiltinesse in him as if he had been guilty of K. James his death and Prince Henrie's death the blood of the Protestants in R●●hel and the Rebellion of Ireland and all the Protestant blood shed there pag 23. of the said Sermon stiled Englands Distemper and thereby made him the troubler of England as Achan was of Israel hath these words page 32. It was the Lord that troubled Achan because bee troubled Israel Oh that in this our State Physicians would resemble God to cut off those from the Land who have distemperd it Melius est 〈◊〉 perea● unus quamunitas Immedicabile vulnur Ense recidendum est ne pars sincer a trabatur But yet more plaine page 37. Speaking of those with whom we should not admit of a peace hath this intire sentence Thirdly Men who he under the guilt of much innocent blood are not meet persons to be at peace with till all the guilt of blood be expiated and avenged either by THE SWORD OF THE LAW OR LAW OF THE SWORD else a Peace can neither be safe nor just Mr. Love will not say that the King was not guilty of much innocent blood lest he should contradict himselfe neither will he say that blood-guiltinesse can be expiated but by blood lest he should contradict the Scriptures neither can he say but the King was cut off either by the sword of the Law OR LAW OF THE SWORD without which he hath already said that a Peace can neither be safe nor just Again Mr. John Knox the Scottish Reformer a man of known Religion and Learning of the Presbyterian judgment in his 78. page of his Book called the appellation of John Knox having declaimed against the establishment of Idolatrous and persecuting Kings and Rulers by the people hath these words Neither can oath or promise binde any such people to obey and maintaine Tyrants against God and his truth knowne but if rashly they viz. the people have promoted any manifest wicked person or yes ignorantly have chosen such an one as after declareth himselfe unworthy of Regiment over the people of God and such be all Idolatrous and cruell persecuters MOST JVLTLY MAY THE SAME MEN DEPOSE AND PVNISH HIM that unadvisedly before they did nominate appoint and elect Againe Doctor John Ponnet a Protestant Divine in his Book● called Ashore
of Jesus Christ and his truth and Gosp●ll be it Presbytery or whatsoever else then your selves have been and you may thus contend all your dayes but you will never thrive and prosper in the settlement of Religion and Reformation untill a more meeke quiet forbearing spirit be more predominant in you then as yet doth appear which if it once be made manifest in you your parts gifts and abilities would be serviceable unto God and your faces would shine in the sight of honest men Having repeated the Protestation Vow and Covenant and Solemn League and Covenant as if your very calling men Covenant-breakers had sufficiently proved them so you presently flye into the faces of the Army with all those Scriptures that make mention of Gods displeasure against Covenant-breaking and that without once giving any argument proving that they are Couenant-breakers but what have been answered over and over again and again though you have gotten the art not to take notice thereof then you tell them page 8. of your serious and faithfull representation with what a jealous eye and severe hand the Lord avenged the quarrell of 〈◊〉 Covenant made by Zedekiah King of Babylon then wee heare of God● avenging the quarrell of his Covenant of despising 〈◊〉 Oath by breaking his Covenant of lifting up the hand to the high God of the despising Dominions and speaking evill of Dignities of Gods judgements against Corah Dathan and Ab●ram for their mutinous rebellion and levelling design against Magistr●●y and Ministery in the persons of Moses and Aaron 〈◊〉 But may not others upon better grounds summon up all those Scriptures that speake of the miscarriages of false Prophet● that prophecie lies in the name of the Lord that pretend to a vision from God which hee did never shew and to 〈◊〉 messages which he did never send c. and dash them all into your faces then you can those Scriptures that speak● of Covenant-breaking despising Magistracy and Ministery into the faces of the Army you tell them of Gods judgments against Saul for violating the Covenant which was made with the Gibe●nites but may not that as well be re●orted upon you for violating the Covenant which you made with the Parliament not to make defection to the contrary party to assist the Forces raised and continued by authority of Parliament to bring Delinquents to condign punishment c. which is a positive not conditionall Article of the Covenant as that 〈◊〉 the preservation of the person of the King was yea one of the great ends of the whole warre and when the Lord Generall and Councell of Waried ●once yeeld unto Articles of quarter for life upon very weighty grounds and reasons so voted by the Parliament themselves to some capitall Malig●ant at the rend●tion of Oxford what a clamour and noise was heard against them though we hear as great an exclamation for their contrary proceedings at this time Againe Did the Covenant made with th● Gibeonites give them a dispensation to doe what they could against the Israelites and they must not so much as be questioned for it by vertue of a Covenant made before If not your instance is nothing for no such Covenant was made with the King that doe he what he would or could to ruine and destroy religion and liberty and all godly men that yet we bound our selves to preserve his Person and you know that when wee entered into this Covenant it was p●esumed that not the King but his evill councell was the cause of our Warres and miseri●● though since wee have found that not his councell but himselfe was the chiefe cause thereof and your own consciences do tell you so or else you have wrong'd him Page 9. of your Letter you tell them while they kept Covenant they had your hearts your helpe and your prayers that they have broken their Covenant is your slanderous aspersion and how your hearts your help and your prayers have been towards them is all mens observation that the very scope and drift of many of your prayers and preaching especially the last Summer and about 18. months since was to rend and teare the Army to pieces and like B●la●m's prayers for the hosts of Israel though blessed be God with the like successe may be proved by many heaps of witnesses and yet the Armies successe in all their proceedings must still be appropriated to your prayers that were bent against them though indeed in some sence it cannot be denyed for it is usu● I with God to turne mens curses against his people into blessing● upon their head Having sufficiently insisted upon the Solemn League and Covenant by way of anticipation you answer their objection by telling them First That they must not be too confident from former suc●esses shewing them that God suffers men sometimes to prosper in wicked courses that there be just men unto whom it happens according to the worke of the wicked and that there be wicked men unto whom it happeneth according to the worke of the righteous Page 12. of your Letter But to reply in the first place why may not they conclude from successes as well as you how often have we heard you attribute the successes of the Army from time to time to your prayers and morning meetings and Lectures though made use of both by prayer and preaching to render them odi●●● in the sight of God and man if it was possible but 2ly Though successes are not alwayes the infallible testimonies of the goodnesse of the cause on which side they fall● yet successes with their circumstances doe sometimes 〈…〉 evidently vindicate the minde of God in a questionable 〈◊〉 as First when both parties have appealed solemnly 〈◊〉 God in a doubtfull case or at least so appearing 〈◊〉 him to blesse or blast make to prosper or to perish that 〈◊〉 that is not righteous in his eyes As for instance when the false Prophets commanded to goe up to Ramoth Giliad and prosper and the Prophet of the Lord told them that if they went up they should perish and both parties pretended to the message of the Lord herein Certainly the succe●se in this case argueth the minde and will of God touching th●●● going or not going to Ramo●h Giliad when some of 〈◊〉 did ●id the City goe out against the Army when they came towards the City telling them you had a command from God to this purpose assuring them that if they did let the Army come in 1646. they would plunder the City ruine and destroy them And others of the Ministers of Jesus Christ pre●ending to the same name and authority a● you did required them in the name of the Lord not to goe out to fight against ●he Army assuring that if the Army did come not a hai●● of ●heir heads should perish Doubtlesse the successe in this case was very argumentative touching the will of God So 〈◊〉 the Scots came the last yeare into this Kingdome pretending ●he quarrell of the Covenant for