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A20776 The catechisers holy encouragement to the profitable exercise of catechising in the Church of England Downing, Thomas. 1623 (1623) STC 7158.5; ESTC S4617 16,779 34

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not that to be vnderstood of little ones of soule rather then of body and age of children in grace rather then in growth Ans Not rather but indifferently to both for the Lord of heauen requireth Psal 148.12 That young men and maidens old men and children should praise the name of the Lord on earth But they cannot doe that till this not acknowledge his praise till they know his person and properitie Quest But what then grant it that children are docible are their poore soules ere the safer for some knowledge without practise What good would the light of the sunne doe a man and take away the heate Wherefore holy Dauid saith that a good vnderstanding haue all they that do thereafter Psal 111.10 and Saint Iames bids vs not be hearers of the word onely deceiuing our selues Iam. 1.21.22 but doers also c. But tender children doe rather minde childish folly and play then regard to practise that they heare Pro. 22.15 heare Salomon Foolishnes is bound in the heart of a childe Ans We must confesse our selues guilty of all but yet not without somthing to say for our selues and something that wise Solomon himselfe will say for vs and so we hope though one should breake the other will hold we haue a double answere Quest Which is the first Ans First for profit if we learne something and practise nothing or but little Quest What profit would that be Ans There is a double commodity first a profit pertaining to the way vnto the end secondly a commodity in the end of the way Quest What commodity haue you in the way Ans Information of our slender vnderstandings touching things to be knowne in the way to our future life and not to be knowne to be beleeued and not to be beleeued to be done or to be shunned to be feared or to be hoped Quest What is your commodity in the end of the way Ans The end of instruction is incomparable not onely grace in this short life but glory in life eternall Quest Why attaine this great incouragement Ans Not learners but liuers not hearers but fearers yet we that are poore children if we haue not this rich profit presently we learne the right way by Gods word to it and this is a great part of profit for as learning without liuing is vnprofitable so liuing without learning is vnpossible Quest But you say that wise Solomon hath something more to say for you tell me what it is Ans He giueth vs not only sharpe but sweete he calles vs fooles in the bondes of childhood Pro. 22.15 but yet be makes vs amends though we fooles doe not thinke so the rod of corection chaseth it away Quest But may not you attaine this without knowledge as well as many simple and illiturat men doe Wisdome saith Apply thy heart vnto me Wisd 1. and thinke of God with humility Not speake mistically of him but thinke and seeke him in simplicity of thine heart but a childe may doe this as well as many lay men doe Ans Our answere to this is from euery fingers end to the contrary from the right hand to the left 5. to 5. The fiue fingers 1. Necessity of knowledge 2. Tradition of Teachers 3. Text of Scriptures taught 4. Tuition of the Truth 5. Incouragement to all Quest What necessity is there Ans It is necessity that we should haue this knowledge of eternall life either by our owne studies or by others either implicity or explicity ether by report or knowledge and this is necessary for lay men as little children Quest What is that second finger of Tradition Ans It is no doubt better to haue the documents and lessons of Religion by our owne labour then by tradition yet first we must haue them by Traditions of our teachers Quest What was the third answere Ans Thirdly we answere to the text alledged by Text of Scripture Though God will accept of none without simplicity of heart yet the Lord requireth more as the Apostle saith With the heart man beleeueth vnto righteousnes but with the mouth confession is made vnto saluation Iam. 1. So Saint Iames that faith without workes is dead They deceiue themselues therefore that trust to simple harts without vnderstanding in matters of Religion Quest What is the fourth answere Ans Reason not to regard our owne profit alone but the tuition of the Gospell and the defence of the truth the depth whereof was neuer more digged at nor the profession thereof euer more pusht at now is the time both for old and young couragiously to sanctifie The Lord in their hearts 1. Pet. 3.15 being ready to satifie euery one that shall aske a reason of their faith and hope that is in them Quest What is the fift Incouragement Ans Comfort and ioy to all from the royall King that sits on his throne to the lowest subiect to prince pastor and people as Salomon saith it did him Pro. 27.11 My sonne be wise and reioyce my heart that I may answere him that reproacheth me And surely if euer there was cause now there is for all for Kings to commaund and Ministers to obey in instructing their hearers and for both to make glad the heart of their dread Soueraignes by witnessing of wisdome and answering the spitefull reproches of all hereiques Which if euery man would but labour for a while hope we ere long that if our aduersaries will but stand at our Church doores they shall heare those resounding ecchocs from the mouthes of babes that shall reioyce their nurcing father and leige king the spirituall and naturall parents and confound all false heresies which graunt O Lord Iesus Amen Quest The profit of a thing doth not consist in the bare matter so much as in the fruitfull manner and therefore since you haue spent so much paines on the matter of Catechising doe no lesse on the manner will you be tractable to be encouraged to know the same how it is to be performed Ans Yes withall our hearts and studies for the manner God respects as well as the matter and for defects in the manner doth reiect the matter as in Caine Gen. 4.5 because he had not respect to the manner of his sacrifice to doe it well God had no regard of him nor his oblation he had no profit nor commendation Quest What then in a word is required in the comely manner of this goaly businesse generally Ans As in receiuing the holy Sacraments deuout prayer vnto almighty God Ex. 19.7.10 hearing his holy word there is a time of premeditation so in Catechising youth in the heads of Religion there must be preperation Quest What duties are required in this preperation Ans The duties herein required are sundry but for memories sake againe they shal be reduced to three Quest Which be those three Ans First duties that doe concerne your selfe and those that are in place to teach vs.