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A54001 Tvvo speeches made in the House of Peeres, on Munday the 19th. of December, for, and against accomodation. The one by the Earl of Pembroke, the other by the Lord Brooke. The latter printed by the desire of the House of Commons Clarendon, Edward Hyde, Earl of, 1609-1674.; Brooke, Robert Greville, Baron, 1607-1643, attributed name.; Pembroke, Philip Herbert, Earl of, 1584-1650, attributed name.; England and Wales. Parliament. House of Commons. Proceedings. 1643-12-19. aut 1643 (1643) Wing P1125A; ESTC R218264 3,837 8

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TWO SPEECHES Made in the House of PEERES On Munday the 19th of December For and Against Accommodation The one by the Earle of PEMBROKE the other by the Lord BROOKE The latter Printed by the desire of the House of COMMONS Printed in the Yeare M.CD.XLII THE EARLE OF PEMBROKE'S SPEECH IN PARLIAMENT on Munday the 19th of December concerning ACCOMMODATION My Lords I Have not used to trouble you with long Speeches I know I am an ill Speaker but though I am no Scholler I am an honest man and have a good heart to my King and Country I have more to loose then many of these who so hotly oppose an Accomodation I will not forfeit mine estate to satisfie their humours or ambitions My Lords 't is time to looke about us and not to suffer our selves to be fooled out of our Lives our Honours and our fortunes to helpe those men who when their turnes are served will dispise us and begin to laugh at us already A fellow here of the Towne an ordinary skurvie fellow told mee the other day to my face that he cared not if I left them to morrow nay if all the Lords except three or foure that he named and said he was sure would not leave them went to the King they should do their businesse the better yet my Lords I thinke wee have helped them I am sure they could never have brought it to this without us If wee had not joyned with them I thinke the People would not have followed the House of Commons now they can do their businesse without us 't will be worse shortly if wee do not looke about us My Lords we were told this time twelve moneth if wee would put out the Bishops out of the Lords House no further attempt should be made upon the Church I am sure I was promised so by some who would be thought honest men and when I told them it was reported that they meant to take away Episcopacie and the Booke of Common Prayer they protested to mee that in the first they intended nothing but to appoint some godly Ministers to assist the Bishops in Ordination and some other things that I do not understand and for the Booke of Common Prayer they who were strictest against it and would never be present at it assured mee that if it were once confirmed by Act of Parliament for they said many things were put into it by the Bishops without Authority they would be content and on my conscience so they would if they had had the places they then looked for Now nothing will content them but no Bishop no Booke of Common Prayer and shortly it will be no Lords no Gentlemen and no bookes at all for wee have Preachers already that can neither write nor read My Lords I wonder what we shall get by this war we venture more then other men I am sure I venture more then five hundred of them and the most I can looke for is to scape undoing what betweene being a Traytor and being a Malignant wee have but a narrow way to walke in Wee heare every base fellow say in the streete as wee passe by in our Coaches that they hope to see us a foot shortly and to be as good men as the Lords and I thinke they will be as good as their words if we take this course They say they will have no Peace without Truth ' Death have we no truth Have wee lived all this while in ignorance I thinke our Fathers were as wise men as they Had we no truth in Q. Elizabeths time Have not all our famous Learned Divines been able to teach us truth but must wee learne it onely out of Tubs My Lords I am no Scholler But I understand men and I had rather continue ignorant still then enjoy the truth these men would have I have served the Kings Father and himselfe and though I have beene so unhappy to fall into his displeasure no body shall perswade mee to turne Traytor I have too much to loose I am a true Protestant and I love the King and Kingdome and I am sure warre is good for neither of them I would every bodies faults were forgiven them and I thinke wee should all then take heed how we committed new Good my Lords let us have Peace and if these men will not consent to it let us thinke of some other way to get it The Lord BROOKE'S Speech in Answer to the former My Lords SOmewhat that fell from the Lord who spake last calls me up he tells you what he was promised by some that this and that Reformation would content them and they would presse no further besides the conversation that we all know hath beene betweene them he invited you by his eye to thinke a Noble Lord on the Viscounts Bench concerned 't is true severall discourses have often passed betweene them in my hearing of this businesse and 't is very like he did not usually acquaint him with all his thoughts If he found he was not like to hold out to the end of the journey he was not to be blamed for desiring his company as farre as he was willing to goe the other part would be the easier performed by those to whom the Lord hath revealed his will If hee hath beene made an Instrument of more service to God and his Countrey then he intended he should rather thanke the means that cozened him to so much good then because his faith failes in the race reproach them who first incouraged him to runne If hee hath done nothing but what his conscience perswaded him was just and fit he hath no cause to complaine if otherwise I am sure nothing that my friend said to him or promised him can be his excuse He tells you much of what he hath to loose and into what great contempt the Nobility will grow if there be not a speedy Accommodation and I feare these vile Considerations hath hung Plummets on some of our wings which by this time would have mounted us higher but these are the baytes the enemy of godlinesse and true holinesse flings in the way to discourage worldly minds from fighting the good fight of the Lord We doe not finde that among all the Acts of the Creation the Almighty ever made an Earle or a Lord I will not deny but that sometimes not alwayes the hearts of Princes have beene moved by providence to advance some persons to those degrees and surely if we shall be contented for the setting forward a good cause to mingle our selves with the meanest of the people for the procuring a parity in the Church to consent to a parity in the State and for the subduing the pride of Kings for a time to part with the power of Noblemen I doubt not but when the good worke in hand shall be finished we shall be againe advanced above our brethren according to our severall talents and governe them according to that rule which shall most advantage Gods cause My
Lords that Lord shall not finde fault with me for concealing my intentions I will deale freely with him I am with all my heart against this Accommodation against any whisper or thought of Accommodation till His Majestie shall submit to our 19 Propositions and to all the Propositions wee have since made and delivered up all those wicked evill Counsellors who have saucily told him 't is lawfull for him to deny us any thing I know we have many difficulties to wrastle with and that many fall from us daily they who have much to lose as that Lord said will be quickly weary of us and yet some men of good fortunes will not leave us they who have a sense of gratitude of pass'd obligations or future hopes from His Majestie will be startled at our Resolution yet I see many here the most notoriously obliged indeed as much as servants can be to a master in this good cause have mastered those vulgar considerations and had the courage almost to despise him to his face besides the wisest men will not thinke themselves incapable of future favours if they use their utmost power to reduce him to a necessity of granting they who are transported with naturall affection to their Fathers and Brothers Kindred Friends will not keepe us company yet this troubles me the lesse whilest I see those noble Lords in my eye upon whom I can never looke enough who banishing those womanish and effeminate fancies cheerfully undertooke to serve against that Army wherein they knew their owne Fathers were and on my conscience I speake it to their honour had they met them alone would piously have sacrifized them to the commands of both Houses They who thinke that humane Lawes can binde the conscience and will examine the oathes they have taken according to the Interpretation of men will in time fall from us But such who religiously consider that such morall Precepts are fitter for Heathens then for Christians and that we ought to leade our lives according to the rule of Gods Word and that the Lawes of the Land being but mans invention must not check Gods children in doing the worke of their heavenly Father will not faint in their duty My Lords it is a singular instance of Gods blessing upon this Parliament that these truths which the pride and superstition of the Bishops used all possible meanes to smother is now taught in Pulpits that the poore peoples zeale to God may not be corrupted by their duty to the King By the Christian labour of these painfull Preachers wee shall not want hands to bring all our wishes to passe and let not us out of any worldly respects of Estate Wives Children Honour good Nature Iustice Compassion care of Trade of Lawes grow slack and lazy in our undertakings upon the successe of which the eyes of Christendome are fixt but let us proceed to shed the bloud of the ungodly And so my Lords hoping that what that Lord hath said hath moved nothing with you or the most of you and that what he can doe will prevaile as little in other places I have expressed the thoughts of my heart to you and if the House shall incline that way shall desire leave to enter my Protestation against any Accommodation Wednesday the 21th of December Resolved upon the Question That Mr Boswell be desired to wayte upon the Lord Brooke and in the name of this House to give his Lordship thankes for the excellent Speech he lately made in the House of Peeres against an Accommodation and to desire his Lordship since this House is informed that the Earle of Pembroke hath given many Copies of his Speech which occasioned the other that hee will cause that Speech to be printed and published Henry Elsinge Cl. Dom. Com. FINIS