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A04843 The fourth sermon preached at Hampton Court on Tuesday the last of Sept. 1606. By John Kinge Doctor of Divinity, and Deane of Christ-Church in Oxon King, John, 1559?-1621. 1607 (1607) STC 14975; ESTC S108027 28,604 52

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flower and strength of this presbytery was then cropt what by the kingdome of Herod what by the Roman Lieutenantship the other of the Christians wherof we read 1. Tim. 4. 14. Neglect not thè grace which was giuen vnto thee c. per impositionem m●nuū 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 of the cōpany of the elders But nether doth the former of these proportionate nor the latter import any such presbytery as is now exacted That of the Iewes they suppose though it conclude not directly yet it alludeth at least and giueth some warrant to the Christian eldership Allusions are not demonstrations And simply to in●erre frō the law to the Gospel frō Moses to Christ frō his temporary iudicials tribunals to the perpetuall policies iudgment-seates of all Christian states from Canaan to the whole world of Christendome is no warrantable consequution But nearer to the purpose Jn those Synedrions and Courts of the Iewes whither that great and principal metropolitical parliamentary assembly or whither their inferior and subordinate sessions consider in briefe with me these 4. points 1. the persons 2. the places 3. the pleas 4. the power 1. The persons besides Priestes and Levites which were ad subsidium faith Iosephus for assistance to the civil magistrate for direction in doubts and difficulte cases of the law for the Lord in things appertaining to God 2. Chro. 19. thosed say of the other sort whither they were suggested by the counsaile of Jethro Exod 18. 21. and againe repeated by Moses Deuter. 1. 15. they were all ●o be wise and knowne m●n chiefe of the tribes whom they made Captaines over thousands and hundrethes and fifties and tennes only in the smaller matters or whither those sea●●nty appointed by God himselfe for weightier affaires Num. 11. Moses must knowe them to bee of the elders of the people and governours over them vers 16. Or adde vnto these from the first of Num. 16. the ●vvelue Princes for the twelue tribes they were famous in the congregation princes of the tribes of their fathers and heads over thousands of Israell Lastly by commission from Jehosophat 3. Chron. 19. 8. ● none vvere designed to these gouernements and iudgments but the chiefe of the families of Israell 2. The place for important businesses that which the Lord him selfe should choose 17. Deut. 8 sometimes Shilo sometimes Ierusalem or for easier causes the Cities throughout all the tribes Deut. 16. 8. Or al the strong citties in Iudah 2. Chron. 19. 5. 3 The causes such as fel out in Cōtrouersy betweene a man and his brother Deut. 1. 16. betweene bloud and bloud plea and plea plague and plague Deut. 17. 8. betweene law and precept statute and iudgement 2. Chron. 19. 10. Where Amariab the Priest was ordained chiefe in all matters of the Lord and Zabadiah a ruler of the house of Iudah was for all the kings affaires 4 Lastly their power was The people shall heare and feare not doe presumptuously and that man that shall doe presumptuously that man shal die Deut. 17. 12. The persons you see then none but principal the places cathedrall the causes vniversall the authoritie peremptorie and finall Lastly which may be ioined to the other sith God and the King both haue their severall agents and advocates the proceeding equall and vnpartiall let them now frame their presbyterie out of either of these two Vnlesse they will turne Cities into Parishes and Villages and Hamlets Magistrates Priests Levites into priests people without magistrate and regem himselfe sometimes into reum and bring Moses to his owne barre vnlesse Princes into mechanistes and artificers heades into heeles for the most part and perhaps into tailes as the scripture speaketh vnlesse sword into keies death into Church-censures Corporall into spirituall Civill into sacred Ecclesiastical which were to turne 〈◊〉 Italiam and to make a 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 transmutation of al things not far vnlike the transubstantiatiō of papistes as one compared it they can never extract their presbyterie out of those assemblies Notwithstanding they haue brought thēselues in beleife that our Saviour then transferred the Synedrion of the Iewes into the Christian Church when hee gaue that direction Mat. 18. 15. concerning offences Dic ecclesiae tell the church A place not easie to be vnderstood because ecclesia is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 a tearme of divers acceptions It signifieth multitudinē ad aliquid an assembly of anie qualitie or to any purpose whatsoeuer whither it be 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 lawful or vnlawful sacred or prophane What Dic ecclesiae truly meaneth dicant qui possunt S. Austin of an other subiect si tamen possunt probare quod dicunt ego me ignorare confit●or How beit their argument is in danger soone to be overthrowne tell the Church therefore no Church in al Christianity whither to resort for releise of our grievances but this miscellane church of the presbyterie For our better examination hereof 1 Certaine it is that the offences there meant are priuate and personal and such as lay in the power of the partie offended to burie in secret without farther discouerie 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 if thy brother shall offend against thee and if he shal heare thee thou hast gained thy brother there may be an end without farther cōplaint which in publike scandals and crimes against God and his church may not be 2 From the apparāt degrees of proceeding against such trespassers as 1. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 between thee and him alo●e 2. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 one or two more 3. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 then tell the Church Chrysostome collecteth vides non supplicij se●emendationis gratiâ id fieri you see the ende proposed in this course is not punishment but amendment therfore no need to bring the matter into open Court there to receiue chastisement 3 It seemeth the Church is not oier and determiner in these complaints because there is added in a fourth place If he heare not the Church let him bee vnto thee c. but the presbyteries I hope will both heare and determine all that commeth before them 4 It is not said if hee heare not the Church let the Church excommunicate him as the presbyteries do over-often but 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Let him be vnto thee as an Ethnicke or Publican So that he is sent backe againe to the plaintiffe as it were to censure him As much as to say Immedi●abili ●orbo laborat Chrysost. he is incurably sicke Relinque illum morbo suo Erasm. leaue him to his disease Deo Curandum Abulens to be cured by God himselfe Noli illum deputare in numero fratrum tuorum neque tamen salus eius negligenda est Austin Esteeme him not in the number of thy brethren yet so as without neglect of his salvation How may that be amputetur à familiari consortio Erasm. abstineas ab eo vt confundatur Origen Hold