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A02637 A detection of sundrie foule errours, lies, sclaunders, corruptions, and other false dealinges, touching doctrine, and other matters vttered and practized by M.Iewel, in a booke lately by him set foorth entituled, a defence of the apologie. &c. By Thomas Harding doctor of diuinitie. Harding, Thomas, 1516-1572. 1568 (1568) STC 12763; ESTC S112480 542,777 903

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matter_n of_o faith_n and_o ecclesiastical_a cause_n be_v not_o to_o be_v judge_v by_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n the._n 14._o chapter_n jewel_n pag._n 637._o that_o a_o prince_n or_o magistrate_n may_v not_o lawful_o calae_fw-la priest_n before_o he_o to_o his_o own_o seat_n of_o judgement_n or_o that_o many_o catholic_a and_o godly_a prince_n have_v not_o so_o do_v and_o do_v it_o lawful_o it_o be_v most_o untrue_a harding_n i_o have_v tell_v you_o m._n jewel_n ae_z confut._n fol._n 299._o ae_z that_o the_o duty_n of_o civil_a prince_n consist_v in_o civil_a matter_n and_o ever_o say_v that_o bishop_n ought_v to_o be_v obedient_a to_o prince_n in_o such_o case_n whither_o so_o ever_o they_o call_v they_o and_o if_o they_o make_v any_o temporal_a decree_n the_o bishop_n who_o have_v temporal_a good_n under_o the_o prince_n must_v obey_v without_o grudge_n ae_z confut._n fol._n 302._o ae_z or_o gain_v say_v so_o far_o as_o the_o decree_n stand_v with_o the_o honour_n of_o god_n but_o 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he_o that_o be_v judge_v both_o of_o the_o party_n so_o call_v and_o also_o of_o the_o cause_n wherefore_o he_o be_v call_v as_o if_o the_o mayor_n of_o london_n will_v convent_n any_o of_o the_o citizen_n he_o must_v both_o have_v jurisdiction_n over_o that_o citizen_n and_o also_o authority_n to_o judge_v in_o that_o cause_n for_o which_o the_o citizen_n shall_v be_v convent_v but_o no_o civil_a magistrate_n have_v authority_n by_o virtue_n of_o his_o temporal_a office_n to_o be_v judge_v our_o bishop_n in_o ecclesiastical_a cause_n as_o it_o be_v before_o prove_v and_o shall_v hereafter_o appear_v therefore_o no_o temporal_a magistrate_n can_v convent_n any_o bishop_n or_o priest_n before_o he_o in_o any_o ecclesiastical_a cause_n but_o let_v we_o hear_v m._n jewel_n nullus_fw-la cod._n de_fw-fr episcopis_fw-la et_fw-la clericis_fw-la l._n nullus_fw-la jewel_n pag._n 637._o justinian_n the_o emperor_n himself_o who_o of_o all_o other_o most_o enlarge_a the_o church_n privilege_n say_v thus_o nullus_fw-la episcopus_fw-la invitus_fw-la ad_fw-la civilem_fw-la vel_fw-la militarem_fw-la iudicem_fw-la in_o qualibet_fw-la causa_fw-la producatum_fw-la vel_fw-la exhibeatur_fw-la nisi_fw-la princeps_fw-la iubeat_fw-la let_v no_o bishop_n be_v bring_v or_o present_v against_o he_o will_v before_o the_o captain_n or_o civil_a judge_n what_o so_o ever_o the_o cause_n be_v onlesse_a the_o prince_n shall_v so_o command_v it_o harding_n see_v justinian_n as_o you_o say_v of_o all_o other_o do_v most_o enlarge_v the_o church_n privilege_n be_v it_o likely_a that_o he_o will_v most_o of_o all_o other_o break_v they_o and_o whereas_o he_o make_v a_o law_n episcopos_fw-la authent_fw-fr 83._o coll._n 6._o ut_fw-la clerici_fw-la apud_fw-la proprios_fw-la episcopos_fw-la that_o clerici_fw-la apud_fw-la proprios_fw-la episcopos_fw-la conveniantur_fw-la primùm_fw-la clerk_n shall_v be_v convent_v first_o before_o their_o own_o bishop_n in_o causa_fw-la pecuniaria_fw-la in_o a_o money_n mater_fw-la and_o afterward_o before_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n if_o either_o for_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o cause_n or_o for_o some_o other_o difficulty_n the_o bishop_n can_v not_o end_v it_o yet_o he_o
error_n which_o he_o hold_v as_o his_o private_a opinion_n be_v condemn_v at_o the_o sound_n of_o trumpet_n in_o presence_n of_o that_o king_n as_o gerson_n write_v but_o that_o be_v do_v before_o he_o be_v pope_n jewel_n 639._o your_o own_o gloze_v say_v glos_n dist_n 63._o in_o synod_n in_o glos_n papa_n potest_fw-la dare_v potestatem_fw-la imperatori_fw-la ut_fw-la deponat_fw-la ipsum_fw-la &_o sese_fw-la illi_fw-la in_o omnibus_fw-la subijcere_fw-la the_o pope_n may_v geve_v the_o emperor_n power_n to_o depose_v himself_o and_o may_v in_o all_o thing_n submit_v himself_o unto_o he_o harding_n be_v it_o that_o our_o gloze_v say_v so_o m._n jewel_n your_o gloze_v i_o may_v rather_o say_v for_o the_o gloser_n seem_v to_o be_v your_o chief_a doctor_n there_o be_v never_o divine_a that_o serve_v himself_o with_o the_o stuff_n of_o the_o gloze_v so_o much_o as_o you_o do_v what_o infer_v you_o upon_o it_o if_o you_o can_v like_v a_o good_a logician_n frame_v this_o argument_n upon_o 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ultim_fw-la in_o glossa_fw-la the_o law_n say_v exit_fw-la alterius_fw-la persona_fw-la quis_fw-la consequitur_fw-la quod_fw-la non_fw-la habet_fw-la ex_fw-la sva_fw-la a_o man_n get_v of_o a_o other-mannes_n person_n that_o which_o he_o have_v not_o of_o his_o own_o wherefore_o the_o emperor_n have_v authority_n of_o the_o pope_n to_o depose_v he_o sanè_fw-la extr._n the_o off_o iudicis_fw-la deleg_n c._n sanè_fw-la have_v not_o that_o authority_n of_o himself_o or_o any_o his_o imperial_a power_n but_o of_o the_o pope_n and_o see_v judex_n delegatus_fw-la à_fw-la papa_n gerit_fw-la vice_n papae_fw-la a_o judge_n delegated_a of_o the_o pope_n occupi_v the_o room_n of_o the_o pope_n the_o emperor_n in_o this_o case_n shall_v not_o depose_v he_o as_o emperor_n but_o as_o the_o pope_n vicegerent_n and_o delegate_n jewel_n pag._n 639._o franciscus_n zarabella_n say_v pontificum_fw-la de_fw-fr schemate_fw-la &_o concilio_n it_o be_v de_fw-fr schismate_fw-la pontificum_fw-la papa_n 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