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A51065 A moderate reply to His Majesties answer to the cities last petition presented at Oxford which answer was read in Guildhall, before the commons of the said city, January 13, 1643 / by a well-minded petitioner for peace and truth. Petitioner for peace and truth. 1643 (1643) Wing M2330; ESTC R31030 18,007 20

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A MODERATE REPLY TO HIS MAJESTIES Answer to the Cities last Petition presented at OXFORD WHICH ANSWER VVas read in Guildhall before the Commons of the said City January 13. 1643. By a well-minded Petitioner for Peace and Truth London printed Jan. 13. Ann. Dom. 1643. The Convinc'd PETITIONER IT is a great controversie with many in these times whether is to bee preferr'd an unjust Peace or a most just Warre much may be said on each side Policy and Divinity may spin out a long controversie here about sure I am that it is divine policy and politicke Divinity though not to preferre an unjust Peace yet to compound a most just Warre for doubtlesse when a just Peace is to be had no Warre can be just let the cause be what it will it is Solomons note of an evill man to di● up evill and of a froward man to sow contention Proverb 5. v. 22. and warres proceed from lusts James 4.1 and truly he that pretends piety and delights in cruelty doth little understand the law of charity nor his own hypocrisie for surely to take pleasure in fighting is the property of Curres and not of Christians and they little know the power of godlinesse what ever their profession may be who delight in blood for the fruit of the spirit is peace love joy c. but warre and strife c. are fruits of the flesh Gal. 5.21 22. doubtlesse these together with the sad considerations of the dismall effects of civill warres in our own Countrey were the true and reall causes however many would not beleeve it of the strong cries and Petitions for Peace if it could be attained and accommodations between the King and Parliament what malignity did lie hid in the hearts of some of the chiefe movers in that former Petition whose pretence was for Peace and their intentions to make devision in the City I know not but let me speak for my self and for many more whom I have cause to iudge as upright as my selfe therein that our hearts did and doe abhorre such desperate dissimulation and it shall appeare so to all the world by our dissenting from any such councel from what hand soever given to the stopping of the mouthes of any censorious person whatsoever it did much satisfie us to see the Lord Major Aldermen Common Counsell of this City in that humble loyall loving dutifull manner to Petition His Majesty for Peace in the name of the whole City we could not but taking notice of His Majesties Protestations of a desire for Peace promise to our selves a blessed and happy answer to the refreshing the hearts of the whole Kingdome but now the cloudes are returned after the raine and we are as full of present despaire by this answer if His Majesties as we were of former hopes and for mine owne part I cannot but judge that those that are now to seeke in their resolutions to ioyne with the Parliament against the common adversaries of the Kingdome are either to seeke for their wits or their respects to the Kingdome and I shall for ever judge them to be more then sufficiently acquainted with the art of hypocrisie and dissmulation in their pretences for Peace that will not give out their assistance in joyning with the Parliament against the common adversary the only way now left to attaine a Peace An account of this mine opinion I offer to all those that were as ingenuous ●s my selfe in subscribing the late Petition for Peace so much withstood by many who did iudge more evilly of us then we did deserve and that is the serious taking notice First of the nature of the Petition Secondly of the nature of this Answer 1 In the Petition we are to consider 1 Title 2 Preamble 3 Prayer thereof First In the Title they Petitioned to the Kings most Excellent Maiestie in whose hands there was power and we did hope in whose heart there had been a will to make us happy by a gracious reply and surely as it had been the high way to our felicity so had it been greatly for his glory and as it had fild our mouthes with ioy so had muzled the mouthes of those who did premise no better issue of it then now we see Secondly we are to consider the Petitioners The humble Petition of the Maior Aldermen and Commons of the City of London An Act of the ioynt body of the whole City and therefore we did hope most likely to prevaile with His Majesty Thus for the Title Secondly for the Preamble and therein is contained the Petitioners grievances as the ground of their prayers and they are three First the divisions betweene His Maiesty and Parliament Secondly the sad effects thereof both here and in Ireland Thirdly the mis-apprehension conceived in His Maiestie of the Petitioners love and loyalty And from hence they promise His Maiesty and professe that as they are for the present so they will alwayes continue his loyall obedient and loving subiects promising according to their Protestation and vow made before Almighty God that they will defend the true Protestant Religion and their Allegiance His Royall Maiesty honour and estate as well as the power and priviledge of Parliament and the lawfull rights and liberties of the subiects and whereas His Maiesty hath taken offence at tumults from the City they engage themselves their estates and all they have to their utmost power to defend and preserve His Maiesty and both Houses of Parliament from all tumults affronts and violence with as much loyalty love and duty as ever Citizens exprest towards His Maiesty or any of His Royall Progenitors in their greatest glory This is the preamble of the Petition Thirdly in the prayers we may note 1. The meanes of it and that is the most humble submissive manner as it is possible for them to doe The Petitioners therefore upon their bended knees doe most humbly beseech your Maiesty c. 2. The matter of the Petition and that is two-fold First That his Maiesty would be pleased to returne to his Parliament with his Royall and not his Martiall attendants Secondly That such a peace may be concluded upon as may be for the glory of God the honour and happinesse of his Maiesty and his posterity the safety and Welfare of all his loyall Subiects Thus we see the nature of the Petition wherein for persons manner and matter envy it selfe cannot suggest the very least miscarriage who could have otherwayes thought but that we should have had such an Answer to such a Petition so mannaged as might at least have caused our peace and happinesse after our dismall distractions as the Spring after Winter to have budded in our hearts but alas this unexpected answer if it be the true answer to the petition hath like a nipping frost killed our hopes in the very bud and it cannot be otherwayes if we consider the nature of this Answer wherein we are to observe First the Title Secondly the Answer