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A91402 Mr. Pym, his speech. On Tuesday the 8th of February, to the Lords, at a conferrence of both Houses, concerning the petition of the knights and gentry of the county of Kent. Delivered to the Lords, February the ninth, Anno Domini, 1642. Pym, John, 1584-1643. 1642 (1642) Wing P4292; Thomason E200_26; ESTC R11631 2,533 9

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Mr. PYM HIS SPEECH On Tuesday the 8th of February To the LORDS at a Conferrence of both Houses concerning the Petition of the Knights and Gentry of the County of Kent Delivered to the Lords February the Ninth Anno Domini 1642. LONDON Printed for Iohn Hammond 1641. Mr. PYM HIS Speech to the Lords at a Conferrence of both Houses Concerning the Petition of the Knights and Gentry of the County of Kent on Tuesday the 8. of February delivered to the Lords February 9. 1641. My LORDS THE Bill which by both Houses is passed for the taking away the Votes of the Prelates in this Honourable House and dissabling them from temporall Employment and for the setting the Kingdome into a Posture of War for its defence hath occasioned this present Petition of the Knights and Gentry of the County of Kent In which is fully expressed their great ioy and thankfulnesse for the happy Congruity and Concurrence between both Houses in passing the said Bills desiring also therein this Honorable House to goe on with the House of Commons to a through reformation in Religion according to the Word of God To dispatch aide for Ireland To expedite proceedings against desinquents to vindicate Parliament Priviledges to discover remove and punish evill Counsellors to deprive the Popish Lords of their Votes to disarme and search out Papists and put them into safe custody to suppresse Masse both in publike and private To cast out scandalous Minister plant painfull Preachers every where And discover who are Church Papists as well as knowne Recusants MY LORDS This Briefe Catalogue of all the Businesse we have in agitation for the good government and setling peace and tranquility both in Church and Common-wealth I desire under favour to speake somewhat to every particular shewing the great necessity to bring to a happy Conclusion our endeavors and intentions concerning the same MY LORDS 1 Religion is the first thing is desired to be setled and established in such a manner and forme as may agree with the pure and Sacred Word of God there hath been many orders made by this present Parliament whereby many corruptions in the Ministery and dispensation of the Word and Sacraments are in some good measure purged Many scandalous and vitious Teachers in their lives and conversations removed and many painfull and Learned men restored againe to their offices in the Ministery whereby the Word of God hath been purely taught since the sitting of this happy Parliament wee have now by this Bill regulated the chiefest of the Clergie But yet is there not a through Reformation the proceeding of the Parliament therein having been so much opposed by the Votes of Bishops and Popish Lords which inconveniency by the blessing and good Providence of God and wisdome of this great and high Court is for future time prevented by this Bill and proceeded against as touching the Prelates opposition The evills that have happened for want of through Reformation is too apparant men give themselves to all manner of vice and uncleannesse practising nor professing rightly but loosely and profanely any Religion Multitudes have forsaken the Protestant and ioyned themselves to the Romish Religion Many have forsaken our Church become Separatists Brownists and Annabaptists yet this whole state seems as it were composed of naught else but of divers factions sects schismes and all through want of a full Reformation of Religion and setled establishment thereof whereby God is highly dishonoured the Gospel shaddowed and eclipsed publike profanation encreaseth Division and distractions by this means raised in the State there being so many severall opinions that it is unpossible to please all or know how to discover disaffected to the True Religion till the same be really established 2. Ireland that distressed Kingdom lies gasping even as it were ready to yeeld up it selfe into the hands and power of mercilesse and Cruell Miscreants Rebels and Traitors to their King and Countrey enemies to God and his true Religion It is high time to put to our helping hand for their aid and reliefe I beseech you my Lords let us have a fellow feeling of our brethrens miseries let us bezealous for the cause of God and true Religion let not the bloud of the slaine bee a stumbling-blocke to our peace and safety being united brethren under one God in one religion faithfull subiects under one Soveraigne if while it is time we goe not out to their defence to fight the battels of the Lord and his annointed against their wicked and rebellious enemies 3. To proceed to the punishment of delinquents My Lords so long as ill instruments remain unpunished we cannot expect either peace or safety they still working and endeavouring their owne liberties and inlargement to the destruction and confusion of all that labour to bring them to deserved punishment for their evill and notorious crimes be it King or Parliament wherefore i● is of necessity to expedite our proceedings against them ●est protraction of time in the same produce farre more evils and troubles in this Common-wealth then hitherto 4. To vindicate Parliament priviledges my Lords if the members of the Parliament may not freely vote freely debate and dispute concerning such things as are by them in agitation for the safety peace and prosperity of true Religion his sacred Maiestiy and his Kingdomes without reprehension accusation or impeachment for the same then will Parliaments prove uselesse and of no validity in this Kingdome which have been ever esteemed the best and safest way of government that ever was or could be for the same 5. To remove evill Councellors So long as such remaine about the Court wee cannot expect any good issue of our proceedings in the great affaires of this Kingdome 6. The daily examples of the evill practices of Papists and Recusants to disturbe our peace I hope is sufficient to make us carefull and willing to prevent the same in time by disarming them and putting the Lawes in execution against obstinate and wilfull Recusants against Priests and Iesuits that shall be found any where lurking in this Kingdome seducing his Maiesties good subiects in their Religion and alienating their hearts and affections from due obedience to his Maiesty and the Lawes and Ordinances of the Kingdome made and enacted by the whole State of the Kingdome and confirmed by his most excellent Maiesty 7. To remove Popish Lords from sitting or having any voyce in this honourable House to suppresse Masse in publicke and private to cast out scandalous Ministers out of the Church and to place good ones in their roomes to discover who are Church Papists and knowne Recusants The necessity of all which is grounded upon the same reasons as are the other particulars These being removed and avoyded the rough way of our proceedings in the great affaires of the State will bee made plaine Through these difficulties we must passe unanimously with one consent in the name and feare of God in obedience and dutifull affection to our gracious Soveraigne and in faithfull integrity to the peace and safety of our Countrey of whom wee are intrusted to counsell determine and conclude of all things that may tend to the e●erlasting peace and tranquility of both Church and State Which that we may doe God grant us unity of hearts and magnanimity and courage of minde to bring to a happy conclusion all things we have in hand for the quiet and peace of King and People FINIS