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A48453 As you were, or, The Lord General Cromwel and the grand officers of the armie their remembrancer wherein as in a glass they may see the faces of their soules spotted with apostacy, ambitious breach of promise, and hocus-pocus-juggleing with the honest soldiers and the rest of the free-people of England : to the end that haveing seene their deformed and fearfull visage, they may be returning to doe their first pretended workes, wipe of their spots, mend their deformities & regaine their lost credit : in a word, save themselves and the gaspeing libertyes of the surprized and enslaved English nation : least enlargement and deliverance arise to the English from another place, but they and their fathers house shall be destroyed : Ester 4. and 14. : all which is contained in a letter directed to the Lord Generall Cromwel, to be communicated to the grandees of his army / written by L. Colonel John Libvrne May 1652 ... Lilburne, John, 1614?-1657. 1652 (1652) Wing L2084; ESTC R1524 49,801 36

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knave to be a spy at Middelborow who now is forced to fly to Westminster for Shelter and render him uncapable to receive any more bills of exchange from Mr. Thomas Scot for the paying him his sallery to inable him to drinke drunke night and day to feast whore it swear rant it and domineer rather like a bedlam then a man or to send one of his sluts over to give Mr. Scot if he want it a tast of hir which kind of flesh is notoriously at Westminster knowne he loves as well as Oxford doth as well as to convey his intelligence over and to solicet him if he ly not in sicke of the French Pox to procure him a passe to come over and to meet him at Graves-end or Dover c. and to discourse with him for setling all his affairs And yet my Lord this is not all but that which is the highest of aggrevations is that all this that is done unto me and principally by your selfe is inflicted upon me without I doe avow it and upon my life dare ingage to make it good all shaddow of ground cause provocation or cullour of law or Justice For alas my Lord I was at most upon your owne principles but an accessarie and not principal And to inflict a higher and greater punishment upon me then upon Mr. Primat the principall and now to set him at liberty from his imprisonment and to keepe me still in my banishment and under the lash of my foresaid extraordinary great fine where is in England either the Law equity or justice to avow and warrant it And my LORD admit Mr. Primates Petition about which I am banished had bin all false and not proved which yet I avow to the contrary and admit it conteines in it so high things against Sr. ARTHVR HASELRIGE as if proved would have occasioned as great a sentence to him as you have given to me and therefore per legem talionis you have done by me as you have done Truly MY LORD I will joyne yssue with you there if that be your ground as by some of your members while I was in England I understood it was one of your principallest Yet remember you say in your Declarations that the Law of England is the Inheritance and birth-right of the MEANEST MAN therof as well as of the GREATEST and that you are bound in duty and conscience both to God and Man to dispense it EQUALLY to all WITHOUT FAVOUR OR AFFECTION and therfore be but just to me my Lord and I have done with you For your Attorney Generall PRIDEAUX that unbrac't Drum that makes a great sound noyse without any tune or harmony accused INDICTED me of high-treason and had 〈◊〉 tryed before about 40 judges at Guildhall London in October 1649 for my life therefore and if he had proved it against me I must have died therfore as a traytor and have forfeited all my estate And therfore by your owne rule and your owne Law of proceedings with me in my present case because he accused me could not prove it „ he ought to be hanged therefore and to forfeit 4 parts of 7 of his estate to me „ which when I was at London by common repute he was judged by his Land Postmaster-Generall-ship attorney Generall-ship and the most vast fees that he being a Parliament man OF AN UNACCOUNTABLE PARLIAMENT and thereby so great takes to plead all manner of base Causes to the threatening OUT FACEING overaweing both JUDGES Iurors and Lawyers to have incomeing thereby annually about twenty thousand pounds Although a few yeares agoe since this eternall Parliaments first sitting I could never heare he was judged to be worth two hundred Pounds per annum Now I say my Lord performe this to me I will pay you my seven-thousand-pound fine without any more to doe But besides remember also were not you My Lord at Darby-house in Cheynel-row with the Councel of State upon the 28 of March 1649 the cheife man to mannage an accusation of high-treason against me and got me committed therefore The Narrative of which in breife is conteined in the 8 9 10 11 12 pages of the second edition of the Picture of the Councel of State printed at London 1649. and yet when it came to the yssue there could never one word of it be proved all though I lay prisoner in the Tower almost a yeare there upon and therfore by your owne rule and law of proceedings with me ought not you your selfe my Lord to be HANGED therefore and to forfeit 4 parts of seven of your great estate to me therefore For shame my LORD once in your life learne to be just and remember what you said against Mr. Herbert the Kings attorney Generall in the Case of the LORD KIMBOLTON and the 5 MEMBERS 1 part of the booke of the Parliaments Declarations page 52 53 101 123 201 203 208 210 278 459 660 and give me not too much cause to picture-draw you so that all the artificial or pensil-limners in the world SHALL NOT BE ABLE TO COMPARE WITH IT You know I have a quick sharpe pen My Lord and therefore give me not cause to challenge you or any of your Champions to draw into a short Epitomy or into a larger charge all that evill that in your owne thoughts you can colourably imagine the Buyshops Starr-chamber Counsell-table High-commission or any persons therein were guilty of nay or any persons since their downe-fall by you executed for the highest of treasons tyrannyes oppressions were guilty of yet comparatis comparandis for me to aver that you outstrip them all and in particulars to undertake upon my life to make it good and that those sayings of God by the Prophet Ezekiel chap 16 48 51 52 mentioned on the Title-page may as truly and as justly be verified of you as they were of Iudah or Ierusalem that you have outstrip't comparatis comparandis all those whome you your selfe count the most wicked men that you have pulled downe „ and thereby have done in actions as much as in you lies to justifie all their wickednes „ that in words you have condemned And besides my Lord what faith what truth what honesty can be imagined to be in that man or that generation of men that by a constant series of his or their actions visiby and apparently declare he or they hold it lawfull to commit any manner of wickednes basenes whatsoever that can be named under the sunn for the accomplishment of his or their proposed end whether in it selfe it be wicked or righteous yea to cheat breake faith with and murther the nighest relations a man can converse with when they cross his ends Yea for that end onely to raise warrs upon warrs to the devastation of Kingdomes Nations The gulled cheated abused peoples lives really truly being of no more value with him or them then so many dead doggs serving him or them for no
as they have measured unto others Judges 1 6 7. Matth 7 2 Marke 4 24. Luke 6 37 38. Rom 2 1. and therfore upon the Principles of Machiavel they count it necessary to bespatter me and load me with that which though in it selfe never so false yet they beleive and hope may make me loose mine Interest in England which I have in the affections of thousands of mine honest and indeared Freinds there Who I know doe looke upon me as a single-hearted honest just plaine-spoken English-man that hath bin valiaunt and couragious for the regaining and preserveing their Freedomes and liberties though accompanied with frailties and infirmities which all yea the best of the sonns of men are subject to And if they could make me loose mine Interest with mine honest Freinds I were then but single Iohn Lilburne nothing at all considerable either to be loved or feared in hopes and confidence to preserve which I further say If Mr. REYNOLDS by my corresponding with the Prince meane that I did it at any time in the least before I was banished I bid defiance to him and challenge him to instance if he can averring that his accusation is most false Or secondly if he meane that I have corresponded with him since I was bannished then I desire him to explaine what he calls corresponding or else I know not fully how to answer him But this at present I shall say and that in truth and faithfullnes as before the Lord allmighty that knowes my heart and beares witnes to me that I lie not that since the day the Parliament voted my bannishment I have neither writ Letter line or sillabe to the Prince or any about him nor received Letter line or sillabe from him or any about him Neither have I dicttated any Letter or any part of a Letter to him or any about him or appertaineing to him Neither have I heard any Letter red to this very houre that hath bin writt or pretended to be writt to him or any about him It s true since I came to Amsterdam I have bin very much threatened by some of the rudest sort of the Cavaliers first by three of them that came to the lodgeing where I lay the first night where they were very uncivil and debaucht as I am informed and very probably might have done me a mischeif had I then bin there and secondly since that one more of them hath to some English people whom I have cause to trust threatened to ruine and destroy me and others of them and they of some port and quality in the presence of some that are no meane ones and that I know love me intirely have sworne within these few daies most bitterly that I am a spie from CROMWELL and a rogue that deserve to be knockt on the head Laying all which together and those many and strong invitations that I have had to come into some of their companies I have judged the hand and finger of MR. THOMAS SCOT that fellow all most starke rotten with the French-po●e and some of his agents or spies have absolutely bin at the bottome of this which to me appears thus I know my walkings as to man are and have bin so upright and just as to man that all my adversaries in England are not able to blemish them and I beleive my adversaries know as much being I know they have allready searched as with a candle into the bottome and secretest of my actions and wayes and therfore know that unless they can in the thoughts of my Freinds blemish me in reference to the Prince whom they have declared a traitor and therfore would be glad they had the least ground in the world to averre me to my Freinds to be apostatised from my principles by corresponding with him or his partie knowing they can have no plausible way in their owne thoughts to keepe my darts of from them and to disenable me to worke out mine owne restauration to the full enjoyment of my native English birth rights but this For if they could but colourably hold out this they would casily by virtue of severall of their acts declare all those traitors that write but a Letter to me or receive but a Letter from me And therfore I beleive MR. SCOT hath by speciall instructions from HIS MASTER THE GENERALL ordered some of his spies that lie in the bosome of the Cavaliers to provoke them to speake big words against me yea and it may be to endeavour to take away my life on purpose to necessitate me through feare to keepe company with them and to grow familiar with them that so they might have some ground to write over to him thereof and therby erne their promised salary from him and write their secrets to him betwixt their inkie lines eather with SACK or the JUICE OF A LIMON according to his common instructions which by holding betwixt him the FIRE he can easily read although a stranger that should intercept his Letters AS PERADVENTURE I OR SOME FOR ME HAVE ALLREADY DONE that knows not his devices could not doe it But Sir not to put a cloake upon things I 'll deale plainly and freely with you I judgeing there was and is such a designe upon me as is before expressed and haveing many invitations to talke with some of the Kings partie least a constant deniall so to doe should give cause to them to conclude and judge me infallibly to be a spie indeed or to be as base and vile as some of them doe imagine me to bee therfore in order to mine owne preservation and that I might not be intrapped nor destroid before I did that in reference to my bannishment that my braine hath allready modellised unto my selfe I have beene of late in severall of their companies and talked my mind rationally and freely to them in justification of MINE OWNE PRINCIPLES and I am consident of it have made as much advantage to my selfe of their discourses with me as any of them can doe of mine And I must consess unto you had I bin formerley addicted to set up the present Scottish Kings Interest yet by my discourseing with them I did find so much ground and reason as quite to discourage me for the future so much as to thinke of any such thing in their way First because I find the KING by their discourse although a man judged by them of parts yet is he not of that Depth of judgement and soliditie as that he dare trust his owne judgement and understanding in the mannagement of any great designe And I am confident that if he trust to the multitude of his Councellours there are some of them men that will talke their minds freely especially to company in a Taverne by meanes of which it is impossible but the Parliaments gold and silver with the helpe of MR. THOMAS SCOTS agents or spies which he hath in all Nations of Europe BUT ESPECIALLY NEARE UNTO THE PRINCE by their intelligence will
be to hard for them all and therby know the bottome of their greatest designes before they be a quarter ripe for execution Secondly because by my discourse with some of them I find that not only the Prince himselfe but his cheisest Councellours are for his comeing in by force and conquest which is a principle I as much hate as any man in the World doth and have given as cleare testimonie against such a Principle and practise in any person what soever as any man upon the face of the earth ever did or durst doe I am confident of it But besides I have professed to be a man of Conscience and one that could die for his principles and never could be threatned from them nor courted out of them by anie persons in the World what soever And it hath bin one of my maine principles and so declared by the constant series of my practise that evil must not be done by any that good may come thereby The Apostle by the Spirit of God haveing concluded the damnation of sach practisers to be just Romanes 3 8. but if I should out of Machiavel or any other Politic Author learne such Principles as to joine with the Prince or any other Interest whatsoever out of a designe of being revenged of my adversaries to conquer the People of England that therby he or any else might rule over them by his will and pleasure I should not only account my selfe one of the greatest murtherers in the World but also one of the basest fellowes that ever breathed upon the face of the earth Knowing very well that none is to rule over the sonns of men by will and pleasure but God only and alone But truly I am afraid my LORD GENERALL CROMWELL HIMSELFE hath really that latitude in his Principles that will easily lead him out and permit him to act such a practise as I dare pawne my head by his actions for many yeares together clearly to evince and Manifest And it may without a speedy reconciliation in short time prove the subject of my pen. And therfore he haveing such Principles within himselfe may judge thereby that I have the like and thereby may be left to as large an elbow-roome as himselfe takes But for disputacions sake at present admit that I am so Yet truly I must tell you I have red Machiavil and the History of the Kings of Israel and of Iudah contained in the Scripture and many other Histories and also within this 15 yeares have seene aboundance of experince even in England it selfe out of all which I cannot see the least ground to draw any manner of inference to induce me to side with a man or Interest of men that are beaten out of all and totally to forsake mine owne Interest among those that live under those that are in possesion of all manner of power and strength or to thinke that ever by a forreign Arme or power of force he can ever probably overturne them Especially considering experience teacheth me assuredly to knowe that his bare attempting and endeavouring of it joines them in England all together in one against him although in many other things they are much divided amongst themselves I am sure of it in Scripture I read that when Absalom had a mind to be King of Israel he did not presently goe about to raise force to obtaine it although he nor none of his interest were ever beaten before but he courted the People and stole away their hearts by observeing to them his Fathers negligence to doe the people right when they came to complaine and handsomely reproveing of it in him by telling the People there was no man deputed by the King to heare them and therfore before the People he wished O THAT HE WERE MADE A JUDGE IN THE LAND that every man that had a suit or cause might come unto him and he would doe them justice and when any man came nigh to doe him obeysance he complemented to the purpose with them and put forth his hand and tooke them and kissed them by meanes of which he rivetted himselfe in the Peoples hearts and affections and in process of time therby he made his Father King David to flie before him 2 Sam 15 1 2 3 4 c. So likewise JEHV for his owne ends could cry out come with me and see my zeale for the Lord 2 Kings 10 16. And as I have red the Scripture so I have seene much experience in England and first I have observed the Parliament by their curious oylie and sweet declarations in reference to the People out-courted and out bid the King who in his stood upon the punctillioes of his prerogative and therby won the hearts of the people from him which proved his ruine And afterward in process of time the independent party or the great men of the Armie served the Presbyter or the Parliament the same trick and therfore Sir had I nothing of God in me but only a graine or two of reason left me I should never side with anie partie in the World in endeavouring the overturning the men that rule in England unles it were a partie that in boones and priviledges did in reference to the People outbid all parties that ever went before them in Just and rationall things and soe to ty their hands that if they would they should not without the apparēt running the hazard of there owne ruine doe any mischeef ād therfore it is that by all the honest and industrious meanes that a laborious or studious man can invent or take will I by the assistance of God preserve my Interest in their owne bowells amongst those honest and gallant men that live amongst them which have held forth that in worth and exellency that in it selfe is good and profitable for all sorts of reasonable men that are not sotts and brute beasts in their understandings that never any held out before them videlicet THE AGREEMENT OF the people DATED MAY THE 1. 1649. And this Interest I shall Increase widen and strenghten as much as possible I can with all persons what soever that will embrace it not doubting but that in the conclusion it will prove like Aarons rod that devoured the rods of all the Egiptian conjurers Exodus the 7 and the 20 „ Swallowing up all Interests into it selfe „ And you may remember when I was indited for my life at Guildhall October 1649 that it was laid unto my charge in the said Inditement as an act of treason that I had held out in print the same thing to the Prince by name the words of which as they were conteined in the inditement yow may read in the first part of the historie of my said tryall page 58 59 60. And I must now acknowledge unto yow that a learned and I am sure of it as honest a judge as ever I knew in England videlicet BARON RIGBY upon a serious discourse with him told me in these verse words that if