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A05142 The seconde [seventh] sermon of Maister Hughe Latimer which he preached before the Kynges Maiestie [with?]in his graces palayce at Westminster, ye xv. day of Marche [-xix daye of Apryll], M.ccccc.xlix. Latimer, Hugh, 1485?-1555. 1549 (1549) STC 15274.7; ESTC S122869 128,935 442

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The feare is past for it is done all redy New byshoppes of olde Abbottes Wordly polycye feareth not God Smel feastes or flatter●rs Pharao Exod. vij viij ix.x. Ieroboam iij. Kyng xij Thogh his termes are homely yet are the good inogh for the persones that c. Suche an answer woulde cut his comb make hym to go away as he had a flea in hys eare ● charme to chase away claubackes ●●j of kyng iij ij of Chrenicles i b Salomon is a president of prayer for kynges Salomon asketh wisdome Study and prayer muste be coupled to geather God minystres occasiō to vse his gyftes at one time or other How shoulde we haue mo vpskypped gentlemen were it not for theyr purchasyng iij. of kyng iij The cōplaynt of the two harlottes to Salomon Wysdome causeth a king to be feared M.L. request to my Lord Protectours grace M. Money wyl be herd she soundes so shyrle and speaketh so pleasantly y t euery man is glad to haue her take her in their handes Veluet cotes vpskyppes M.L. is troubled in solycytyng poore mennes suytes The gentylwomānes cōplaynt to M. L. Lawyers are lyke Swytcheners that serue where they may haue most money Luke y e xvi●● Except before except that is to saye except yt be for money The poore womā lyinge in the Flete A preacher hath two offices i. To teache true doctrine ij To confute gaynsayers spurners against y e troth Preachers haue euer had gaynsayers Exo. vij vist ix.x. iij. King xviij Math. xij xv.xvi Actes xxviij Eusebius de temporibus Hystoria ecclesiastica Antonius sabellicus We were thē at a peace w t the deuyl and at debate w t God The deuyll makes no dissention in Turkye No heresyes amongest the Iewes When y e deuil bestyrreth him plaieth hys parte Preachers are noted to be the cause of sedition The .xvi. of Mat. Mark viij Luk ix They was neuer so great dissention as when Chryst preached ij Tymo iij. A preacher offyce is to be a mouth stopper But not to haue hys one mouthe stopped wyth a benefice or a byshop rike The Epiloge or rehersal of the fyrste sermon The Kynges Scole masteres are praysed worthely The Counsayle of England haue their cōdyng and worthye prayse The people dyd not repyne agaynst Kynge Iosyas in hys minorite What is a Prynce lyke pastme God is carefull for a kynges house and the order of y e same The kinge is in euery mannes mouth when it makes for their purpose Mayn for shyftes and put offes A kynge must not be proude iii. Kyndes of prid in a king Kinges haue clawe backes and docter pycke mote hys fellowe a boute hym Clawbackes counsel A King must praye as wel as rede Salomon praied for wysedome Salomon herd the causes cōplaintes of his people in hys own person M Latimers request to the lordes for the abolishemēt of whordome Al the Corinthyans charged for one mans synne More whoredom in londō thē euer there was on the banke Of one that reported M. Latimer to be a sediciōs fellowe Christ was noted for a sediciouse styrrer of the people How M Latimer was accused to oure sate Kyng of famous memory Kynge Henry the eyght and hys answere His aunswer to the kynge In preaching we must haue respecte to the place and to the personnes M. Latimer was euer voide of sedicion and yet styl charged and burdened ther with How M. Latimer hys pētecostal was deteined and vppon what skyll Of the newe shyllynge M. Latimer noted of a syngalaritie A paraphrastical exposition The byshoppes called the people ignoraunte they were y e cause of it thē selus M. Latimer hath gotten Esay the prophet to be his companion in sedicion Marke well hys termes Esay medled wyth the coyne of the mynte Two causes why moneye in Esayes tyme was more basor worse Esaye medeleth wyth vinteners M. L. was sumthynge scrupulous when he was a masse sayet in delayinge of his wyne wyth water Esaye spoke of one vyce but he mente yt of mo Cloth makers are become Poticaryes and yet professe them selues to be Gospellers A pretti kynd of mlutipliing Folcke powther These mixtures and multipliynges are theft Esaye was sumwhat homely when he calleth the magystrates vnfaythfull and fellowes of theues Ther are two kynde of theuynges a grosse kynde of theuyng a pryncely kynde of theuynge Brybery is a kynde of theauynge Brybes haue gotten a new name and vnder a coloure are called gētil rewardes but that is not their christen name We are worsse then the styffe necked Iewes The good wyl not spurne nor kycke at the preacher So it faryth by a galled Horsse Gyffe Gaffe was a good fellowe A good fellow was biddē to breakfast to a puddynge They follow brybes as fast as the fellow dyd the puddynge Of the stout ● horneful gētilman which sayed y t he hys mule had ful absoluciō at Paules crosse The preachers wordes in hys absolucion Mule The mysreporte of M· Latimar is worldly wise but in godlye matters as blynde as a beatael A charytable whyshe of M Latimar Howe tender and deyntey eared men of these dayes be that had rather commyt .xx. faultes then here tel of one Poore mens sonnes for the most part haue euer traueled about the settynge forth of Goddes worde Iohannes Alasco ▪ Yt is honorable for the Kynge to be munificial lyberal toward the learned Petrus martyr and Bernardine Ochiue The parable of the wicked Iudge Some as paynefull magystrates in England an euer was A good leasson for suche as are magistrates but none of the best How and by what meanes we should resorte to God in aduersitye The swete●● promysse of Chryste The order of our prayer and askynge What God woulde heare of vs wher in he delytes Moyses vsed prrayer as an instrument in aduersyte Exod. xiiij Iosue was in anguyshe and dystresse and prayed For Achans couetousnes many a thousande punyshed Iosue vij Iosue put Achanto death Iosue vij Paral. xx Many beg●● to praye but few perseuer and contynue in prayer Caste awaye synne then praye A notable lesson for hym whych prayeth The cōmon maner of a wycked Iudge Whether Chrystyan people maye seke to be auenged Actes xxij Math. xxvi The maner of our Iudges nowe a dayes in hearyng the poore against the ryche How god tēdreth and regardes the cause of the wyddow and the poore Cambises And old soth say but thoughe y ● sayinge be none of y e newist I fear me yet it is it one of the t●west The brybing Iudge was flayed quicke and hys skyn layed in hys chapre Amen or els I praye god we may haue such incorruptible Iudges which wil not deserue it ▪ God hath .ij. vysitations Noe preached goddes worde an C. yeares and was called a foole for hys labour Geue xix Exod. vij Germany made a myngle mangle of theyr relygyon couetousnes cloked vnder a couloure of relygyon amongest the Germaynes
euer theyr grandfathers had before thē But I shall tell you what Chryst said He that loueth his childe better thē me is not worthye to be my dysciple I cā not se how ye shal stande before God at the later daye when thys sentence shall be layed agaynst you But to returne to my purpose there were two pore women came before Salomon to complayne They were two harlots and dwelled together in one house it chaunced with in .ii. dayes they chylded bothe The one of these womē by chaūce in the nyght had killed her chyld and rose pryuely wēt to the other woman and toke her lyue chylde awaye and lefte her dead chylde in hys place Upon that they came bothe before Salomon to haue the matter iudged whose the chylde was And the one sayde it is my chylde Naye sayeth the other it is myne So there was yea and naye betwene them and they helde vp the matter with skoldynge after a womanly fashyō At the lēgth Salomō repeted theyr tale as a good iudge oughte to do and sayd to the one woman Thou sayst the child is thine yea sayed she And thou sayest it is thyne to the other Well fetche me a swerd sayed he For there was no way nowe to trye whiche was the true mother but by naturall inclinacyon And so he sayed to one of hys seruaūtes Fetche me a swerde and deuyde the chylde betwene them When the mother of the chylde that accused the other hearde hym saye so Naye for Goddes sake sayed she let her haue the whole chylde and kyll it not Naye quod the other neyther thyne nor myne but let it be deuyded Then sayed Salomon Geue thys woman the chylde thys is the mother of the chyld What come of this Audiuit omnis Israel When al Israell heard of thys iudgemente they feared the kyng It is wysdome and Godly knowledge that causeth a kyng to be feared One word note here for Gods sake and I wyll trouble you no longer Woulde Salomon beynge so noble a kynge heare .ii. poore womē They were poore for as the scripture saith They were to geather alone in a house they hadde not so muche as one seruaunt betwene them boeth Woulde kynge Salomon I say heare them in his own person Yea forsothe And yet I heare of manye matters before my Lorde Protectoure and my Lorde Chaunceloure that can not be hearde I muste desyre my Lorde protectours grace to heare me in thys matter that youre grace would heare poore mens sutes your self Putte thē to none other to heare let them not be delayed The sayinge is nowe that money is heard euery where yf he be ryche he shall soone haue an ende of his matter Other are fayne to go home with wepīg teares for ani healp they can optaine at ani Iudges hand Heare menes suetes your selfe I require you in goddes be halfe put it not to the hearing of these veluette cotes these vpskippes Nowe a mā can skarse knowe them from an auncyent Knyght of the countrye I can not go to my boke fo● poore folkes come vnto me desirynge me that I wyll speake y t theyr matters maye be hearde I trouble my Lorde of Canterburye beynge at hys house nowe and then I walke in the garden lokyng in my boke as I canne do but little good at it But some thynge I muste nedes do to satisfye thys place I am no soner in the garden and haue red a whyle but by by commeth there some one or other knocking at the gate Anone cometh my man and sayth Syr there is one at the gate woulde speake wyth you When I come there then is it some one or other y t desireth me that I wyll speake that hys matter might be heard and that he hathe layne thys longe at great costes and charges and can not once haue hys matter come to the hearing but among all other one specially moued me at thys tyme to speake Thys it is syr A gentylwoman came to me and tolde me that a greate man kepeth certayne landes of hyrs frō hyr and wil be hyr tenaunte in the spite of hyr tethe And that in a whole twelue moneth she coulde not gette but one daye for the hearynge of hyr matter and the same daye when the matter shoulde be hearde the greate manne broughte on hys syde a greate syghte of Lawyers for hys counsayle the gentilwoman had but one man of lawe and the great man shakes hym so that he can not tel what to do so that when the matter came to the poynte the Iudge was a meane to the Gentyl woman that she wold let the great man haue a quietnes in her lande I beseche youre grace that ye wyll loke to these matters Heare them your selfe Uyeue your Iudges And heare poore mens causes And you proude Iudges herken what God sayeth in his holy boke Audite illos ita paruum vt magnum Heare them sayeth he the small as well as the greate the pore as well as the ryche Regarde no person feare no man Why Quia domini iudicium est The iudgement is Goddes Marcke thys saytnge thou proude Iudge The deuyl wyll brynge thys sentence at the daye of Dome Hel wyl be ful of these Iudges if they repente not and amende They are worsse then the wycked Iudge that Chryste speaketh of that neyther feared God nor the worlde There was a certayne wyddowe that was a suter to a Iudge and she met hym in euery corner of the streate criynge I praye you heare me I beseche you heare me I aske nothyng but ryght When the Iudge sawe hyr so importunate though I feare neyther God sayth he nor the worlde yet bycause of hyr importunatnes I wyll graunte hyr requeste But owr Iudges are worsse then thys Iudge was For they wyll neyther heare men for Gods sake nor feare of y e world nor importunatenes nor anye thing else Yea some of them wil commaunde them to warde yf they be importunate I hearde saye that when a suter came to one of theym he saied What felow is it that geueth these folke counsayll to be so importunate he would be punished and commytted towarde Mary syr punyshe me then it is euen I that gaue them counsayll I woulde gladlye be punyshed in suche a a cause And yf ye amend not I wyl cause thē to crye oute vpon you styl euē as long as I lyue I wyll do it in dede but I haue troubled you long As I began wyth thys sentence Quecunque scripta sunt c. So wil I end now with this texte Beati qui audiūt verbū dei et custodiunt illud Blessed are they that heare the word of god and kepeth it There was an other sute I had almost forgotten it There is a poore womā y t lyeth in the Flete and can not come by anye meanes that she can make to her answere and woulde fayne be baylled offerynge
the crowne wyth out doubte I shewed furthermore of his godly educacion He hath suche schole Maiesters as can not be gotten in all the Realme againe Wherfore we may be suer that God blessed this realme all thoughe he curssed the realme whose ruler is a chylde vnder whō the officres be clymbynge and gleyynge flurynge scratchyng and scrapynge and volupteously set on banketyng and for the maynetenaunce of theyr volupteousnes go by walkes And althoughe he be yong he hath as good and as sage acounsayle as euer was in England which we may well knowe by their godly procedinges and settynge fourthe of the worde of God Therefore lette vs not be worse then the styffe necked Iewes In kynge Iosias time who beynge yonge dyd alter chaunge and correcte wonderfully the religion it was neuer heard in Iewry that the people repyned or sayed The Kyng is a child This geare wyl not last lōge It is but one or two mens doynges It wyll not but for a tyme. The kynge knoweth it not Wo worth that euer suche men were borne Take hede lest for our rebellion God take hys blessyng a waye from vs. I entred into the place of the kynges pastyme I tolde you howe he muste passe hys tyme in readynge the boke of God for that is the kings pastime by goddes appoyntemente in the whyche boke he shal lerne to feare god Oh howe carefull God is to set in an order all thynges that belong to a kynge in his chamber in hys stable in hys treasure house These peuishe people in this Realme haue nothynge but the kynge the kinge in theyr mouthes when it maketh for their purpose As there was a doctor that preached the kynges maiestie hath his holy water he crepeth to the crosse thē thei haue nothynge but the Kynge the kynge in their mouthes These be my good people that muste haue their mouthes stopte but if a man tell them of the kinges proceadynges nowe they haue theyr shyftes and theyr puto●● saying we may not go before a lawe we maye breake no order These be the wicked preachers ther mouthes muste be stopte these be the gaynesayers Another thing ther is y t I told you of Ne eleuetur cor regis etc. The kyng must not be proude ouer his brethren He must order his people wyth brotherly loue and charitie Here I brought in ex●mples of proude Kynges It is a great pride in kynges and maiestrates when they wyll not heare nor be confortable to the ●ound doctrine of God It is an other kynde of pryde in kynges whē they thynke them selues so high so lofty that they disdaine thinke it not for their honour to heare poore mens causes thē selues They haue claubackes y t say vnto thē What sir What nede you to trouble your selfe take you youre pleasure hunte Hauke daunce and dallye let vs a lone we wyll gouerne and order the commune weale matters well ynoughe We worth them they haue bene the rote of al myschiefe and destruccion in thys Realme A kynge ought not only for to reade and studye but also to praye Let hym borowe example at Salomon who pleased God hyghlye wyth his peticion desyringe no worldely thynges but wysdom which God did not onely graūt hym but because he asked wysedome he gaue hym manye mo thynges As ryches honoure and such lyke Oh how it pleased God that he asked wysdom● And after he had geuē him this wisdome he sent hym also occasion to vse the same by a couple of strumpets Here I told an example of a meke kynge who so continued vntyll he came into the company of strange women He herd them not by meanes or by anye other but in hys owne person and I thinke verely the naturall mother had neuer had her own child if he had not herd the cause hym selfe They were ●eritrices Hoores althoughe some excuseth the matter say they were but typplers suche as kepe alehouses But it is but foly to excuse thē seing the Iewes were such not vnlike but thei had theyr stewes the mayntenaūce of whordom as they had of other vices One thynge I must here desier you to reforme my lords You haue put downe the Stues But I praye you what is the matter a mended what a uayleth that ye haue but changed the place not taken the whordome awaye God shoulde be honored euery where For the scripture sayth Domini es terra et plenitudo eius The earth and the lād is the Lords What place shoulde be then wythin a Christiā realme left for to dishonour God I must nedes shewe you such newes as I here For thoughe I se it not my selfe not withstāding it cometh faster to me then I wold wyshe I do as s. Paule doth to the Corinthiās Auditur in uos stuprum There is such a whordome amonge you as is not amonge the gentiles So lykewyse Auditu I here say hate ther is suche whordome in Englande as neuer was sene the lyke He charged all the Corinthians for one mans offence sayinge They were al gilty for one mans synne if they woulde not correcte and redresse it but wynke at it Lo here may you se how that one mans synne poluted al Corinth A litle leauen as S. Paulle sayeth corrupteth a greate deale of dowe Thys is Communicare alienis pecatis to be partaker of other mens sines I aduertise you in Goddes nanie loke to it I here sai ther is now more whoredome in London thē euer ther was on the banke These be the newes I haue to tell you I feare they be true Ye oughte to here of it and redresse it I here of it as Paul sayth Aliqua ex par●e credo There is more open whordome more stuede whoredome then euer was before For Gods sake let it be loked vpon It is youre office to se vnto it Nowe to my confutacion Ther is a certaine man that shortely after my first sermon beynge asked if he had bene at the sermon that daye answerd yea I praye you sayd he how lyked you hym mary sayed he euen as I lyked hym alwayes a sedicious fellowe Oh lord he pinched me their in dede Nay he had rather a ful bitte at me Yet I comfort my self with that that Christ hym selfe was noted to be a sturrer vp of the people agaynst the Emperour and was contented to be called sediclouse It be commech me to take it in good worth I am not better then he was In the kings daies that dead is a meanye of vs were called together before hym to saye our myndes in certayne matters In the end one kneleth me downe and accuseth me of sediciō that I had preached sediciouse doctrine A heauye salutacion and a harde poynt of suche a mans doynge as yf I shoulde name hym ye woulde not thinke it The king turned to me and sayed What say you to that syr
God sayeth it poluteth the whole realme ▪ Polluitur illa terra et ●●non potest expiari sine sanguine The lande can not be purged nor clensed agayne tyll hys bloude be shed that shed it It is the office of a king to se suche murders punished with death Non frustra gesta gladiū What wyl ye make of a kinge He beareth a swerd before hym not a Pecokes fether I go not about to styrrc you nowe to crudelitye but I spake agaynste bearynge of bloudshed Thys bearynge must be loked vpon In certayne causes of murther such great circumstaunces may be that the kynge maye pardon a murtherer But if I were worthye to be of counsaylle or if I were asked myne aduice I wolde not haue the kynge to pardō a voluntary murtherer a prepēsed murther I can tell where one man slew an other in a tounshyp was attached vpō the same .xii. men were impaneled the man hadde frendes the Shirife laboured the bench the .xii. men stacke at it and sayed excepte he woulde disburse .xii. crownes they woulde fynd him gyltie Meanes were found that the xii crownes was payed The quest commes in and sayes not giltye Here was a not gyltye for xii crownes Thys is bearing And some of the bench were hanged thei were wel serued Thys makes men bolde to do murder and slaughter We shoulde reserue murderynge tyll we come to our ennemyes and whyle the Kynge bydde vs fight He that wolde be stur hym than were a pretie felow in dede Crowenes If theyr crownes were shauen to the shoulders they were serued well inoughe I knewe where a womanne was gotwyth chylde and was a shamed at the matter and wente into a secreate place where she hadde no women at her trauail and was deliuered of thre chyldren at a byrthe She wrounge theyr neckes and caste theym into a water and so kylde her chyldren Sodaynelye she was gaunte agayne and her neyghboures suspectynge the matter caused her to be examened she graunted all Afterwarde she was rayned at the barre for it and dyspatched and founde not giltye throughe bearynge of friendes and brybynge of the iudge Where at the same sessions another poore womanne was hanged for stealing a fewe ragges of a hedge that were not worthe a crowne There was a certayne gentle man a professour of the word of God he spedde neuer the better for that ye maye besure whoo was accused for murtheryng of a manne where vppon he was cast into prison And by chaūce as he was in pryson one of hys friendes came vnto hym for to visite hym and he declared to hys friende that he was neuer gylty in the murtheryng of the man So he wente hys wayes the gentle man was arayned condempned and as he wente to hys execusion he sawe hys frendes seruaunte and sayd vnto hym Commende me to thy master and I praye the tel him I am the same man styl I was when he was wyth me And if thou tary a whyle thou shalt se me dye There was sute made for thys mannes pardon but it coulde not be gotten Bilike the Shiriues or some other bare hym no good wyll But he dyed for it And afterwarde I beyng in the Tower hauynge leaue to come to the Lieuetenauntes table I hearde hym saye that ther was a man hanged afterwarde that kylled the same manne for whom this Gentyll man was put to death O Lord what bearyng what bolsteryng of naughtye matters is thys in a Chrystian realme I desyre youre Maiestye to remedye the matter and God graūt you to se a redres in thys realme in your owne person Althoughe my Lord Protector I doubt not and the reste of the counsayle do in the meane whyle all that lyeth in theym to redresse thinges I woulde such as be rulers noble men maisters should be at this poynt w t their seruauntes to certify them on thys sort If anye man go about to do you wrong I wyl do my best to helpe you in your right But if thou breke the lawe thou shalte haue iustice If ye wyll be manquellers murderers transgressoures loke for no bearynge at my handes A straunge thynge What nede wee in the vengaunce to burden oure selues wyth other mēnes synnes Haue we not synnes inowe of oure owne what neade haue I to burden my selfe wyth other mennes synnes I haue burdens and .ii. heapes of synnes One hepe of knowen sinnes an other of vnknowen synnes I hade nede to say Aboccultis meis mūdame domine O Lorde deliuer me frō my hidden and my vnknowē synnes Then if I beare wyth other mennes synnes I muste saye Delyuer me frome my other mennes sinnes A straunge sayinge frome my other mens synnes Who beareth wyth other folkes offences he communycateth wyth other folkes synnes Men haue sinnes inoughe of theyr owne althoughe they beare not and bolster vp other men in theyr naughtynes thys bearinge thys bolsteryng lokyng thorowe their fingers is naught What the fayre happe should I or anye else encrease my burden Myne other mens synnes for gyue me o Lord. A straūge language they haue hid sinnes of their own inough althoughe they beare not wyth gyltines of other mens synnes Oh father Samuell would not beare hys owne sonnes He offered hys owne sonnes to punyshment And saied Ecce filli mei vobiscum sunt Euen at the fyrste tyme he sayed Lo here they be I discharge my selfe take them vnto you and as for my parte Prest● sum loqui coram domino et Christo eius I am here ready to answer for my selfe before the Lorde and hys anointed Behold here I am record of me before the Lorde Vtrum cuiusquā bona c. Whether I haue taken any mans oxe ani mans asse or wether I haue done anye man wronge or hurte anye man or taken any bribes at anye mans hande I canne commende the Englyshe traslation that doeth interprete munera bribes not gyftes They answered nay forsooth We knowe no such thinges in you Testis est michi deus saieth he God is witnes Quod nihil inueneritis in manu mea That you haue found nought in my handes Fewe suche Samuels are in England nor in the world Why dyd Samuell thys marye to purge hymselfe he was enforced to it for he was wrōgfullye deposed Thē bi this ye mai perceiue the fault of the Iewes for they offended not God in askyng of a king but for asking for a kinge to the wronging and desposiciō of good father Samuel If after Samuels death the people had asked of God a kynge they hadde not faulted but it is no smale faute to put an innocente out of his office Kynge Dauyd lykewyse commaunded his people to be numbred and therewyth offended God greuouslye Why might he not knowe the numbre of hys people Yes it was not the numbrynge of the people that offended God for a king may number his people but he dyd it of a pride of an elacion of mynde not accordyng to Gods