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A38372 England undeceived in answer to a late pamphlet (intituled, Some ways for raising of money, humbly offered to the consideration of the Parliament, by a person of quality) : humbly presented to the same Parliament / by an English gentleman of Ireland. English gentleman of Ireland.; Person of quality. Some ways for raising of money. 1691 (1691) Wing E2936; ESTC R11034 15,471 22

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opportunity to that ingrateful and incorrigible Nation to wage War with their Benefactors and to endeavour the utter extirpation of the English Blood This indeed were but to repeat the Old Game to make the Irish Gainers by their Rebellion and the English the Losers For what equality of reason can there be in it to accept of two years value of the Irish Estates who have for above two years enjoyed the Profits not only of their own but of all the Protestant Estates almost through the Kingdom And with what face can this person of Quality pretend this to be the more merciful and Christian way to indemnify the Papists for all their Rapine and Barbarity upon a slender Composition for two years Rent and never think of the poor Protestants who have for two years been driven into Exile and forceably deprived of their Estates and from whom so much hath been plunder'd in Money Plate Houshold-stuff and Stock and so much damage done in burning their Houses and Towns and destroying their Plantation that if all the Estates of the Papists in Ireland were sold at ten years purchase and distributed toward their satisfaction it would be so far from affording a due Recompence and Reparation that it would not make amends for the fourth part beside the Charge of the War certainly no indifferent man can pronounce this to be the more merciful and the more Christian way to indulge our implacable Enemies by a Composition who have truckled to the French and abetted their Interest and to project no Provision or Reparation to our Friends who have suffer'd beyond Example for adhering to a Protestant King Neither will it be impertinent to animadvert how the Protestants upon the last Settlement were treated in a way not so Christian nor so merciful For King Charles the Second having by his Declaration from Bredah confirmed to the Adventurers and Soldiers all the Estates they were possessed of in May 1659. Nevertheless many of them were dispossest by the Irish who were restored by the Court of Clayms others were turn'd out of their Estates by such Persons as His Majesty thought fit to restore by Provisoes and Letters Now for the satisfying and reprising such Adventurers and Souldiers the gratifying of some favour'd Irish and for the hope of a future settlement all Adventurers and Soldiers were forced to retrench a third part of all their Estates which at twelve years purchase is worth four and also to pay one years full value of what their Estates were really bonâ fide set for which with above two years Rent which they have lately lost will amount to more than seven years purchase of the Lands they have been lately dispossessed of by the Irish Nay I have seen it computed that the Adventurers did viis modis pay 70 five years Purchase for their Estates and the Soldiers a hundred and fifteen And I would ask the Projector how long how often shall Overtures of Mercy be given to them Is not five hundred years in point of Time and Pardons extended almost every forty years in point of Grace sufficient to make an experiment whether a Nation be reclaimable or not But if hitherto such Lenitives as these had no other effect than to animate them to new Rebellions why shall it not be deem'd not only Justice to our selves but even a Mercy to the Irish to apply more effectual tho more Churlish Remedies What he is pleased to add in the illustration of his Argument by Instances from the French King may perhaps be historically true tho I must confess I never heard before that he had subdued Savoy but certainly are no way applicable to the Subject in hand nor urged with the relation of such Circumstances as make the case quite disserent If we do not hear of Confiscations or Extirpations in Savoy I am persuaded it is because it is too soon to alienate or destroy that Countrey before he be in possession of it so then in matter of fact it may not be true that they are subdued and if it be true it is no way pertinent for the Savoyards not being Subjects to the French King tho they may be conquer'd by him yet they cannot be subject to forfeiture since they owed him nothing nor were before under his Allegiance If the French King hath so nobly indulged the Gentlemen of Estates where he hath extended his Conquests in Flanders I am apt to think it proceeds more from Policy than Christian Compassion the Conquest of that Countrey being not intire and therefore unseasonable for him to shew his Resentments And well may he boast of Cardinal Richlieus Treatment of the Protestants of Rochel it is the first time that ever any of his Religion express'd any tenderness or humanity to the Professors of the other but alas this is but quoting part of the Text without the coherence Every man knows that knows History how indispensable a necessity lay upon the French King at that time to oblige him to a compliance with those Capitulations Secondly It is offer'd that these Peoples Crime is not so horrible as some would suppose it And in this Argument is a manifest Collusion The Author labouring to palliate their Villany by a pretext of inflexible Loyalty and adherence to the Interest of their Natural King whereas in very Deed their fighting under the Banner of King James was but in order to the Accomplishment of that long premeditated Design to extirpate the Protestant Religion and English Nation and by this means they had an opportunity to effect that by Arms and open War which they could not bring to pass by Secret Plots and Massacres King James by abdicating the Kingdom of England as is plainly granted by the Author did implicitly and consequentially abdicate Ireland and the Government which he retain'd there first by his Lieutenant and then in person was after our present King upon the Adjudication of a vacant Throne was proclaimed through England and in all the Northern parts of Ireland In the mean time the Spontaneous Abdication of the Late King and his voluntary parting with the Prerogatives of the Crown do render the Oath of Allegiance contradictory and unpracticable We do not blame Subjects for adhering to their Natural Prince which indefinitely taken is a virtue but we blame them for adhering to him in the prosecution of such a Cause as did utterly subvert the fundamental Constitution of these Kingdoms which the Subjects as well as Prince stands obliged not to violate In this Case they ought to have deserted as knowing that whoever adheres to a Prince in the abetting of a Cause which overthrows the Laws is punishable by the Laws of that very Prince But to say they were hardly prevai'd upon to ingage and declare is directy contrary to the knowledge of the persons that were then upon the place For whereas the Late King did not arrive in Ireland till about the middle of March the Irish Nation were long before fermented