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A02637 A detection of sundrie foule errours, lies, sclaunders, corruptions, and other false dealinges, touching doctrine, and other matters vttered and practized by M.Iewel, in a booke lately by him set foorth entituled, a defence of the apologie. &c. By Thomas Harding doctor of diuinitie. Harding, Thomas, 1516-1572. 1568 (1568) STC 12763; ESTC S112480 542,777 903

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the_o emperor_n constantinus_n in_o his_o letter_n to_o the_o people_n of_o nicomodia_n 19_o theodorit_n li._n 1._o c._n 19_o speak_v of_o the_o wilful_a error_n and_o heresy_n of_o priest_n and_o bishop_n say_v thus_o illorum_fw-la temeraria_fw-la praesumptio_fw-la mea_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la ministri_fw-la christi_fw-la manu_fw-la coercebitur_fw-la their_o rash_a attempt_n shall_v be_v repress_v by_o my_o hand_n that_o be_v to_o say_v by_o the_o hand_n of_o christ_n servant_n 7._o august_n contra_fw-la epist_n parme._n li._n 1._o cap._n 7._o so_o likewise_o s._n augustine_n say_v to_o the_o donatist_n a_o fortè_fw-la de_fw-la religione_fw-la fas_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la ut_fw-la dicat_fw-la imperator_fw-la vel_fw-la quos_fw-la miserit_fw-la imperator_fw-la cur_n ergo_fw-la ad_fw-la imperatorem_fw-la legati_fw-la vestri_fw-la venerant_fw-la be_v it_o not_o lawful_a that_o the_o emperor_n or_o the_o emperor_n deputy_n shall_v pronounce_v in_o a_o case_n of_o religion_n wherefore_o then_o go_v your_o own_o ambassador_n to_o the_o emperor_n harding_n if_o you_o have_v say_v m._n jewel_n that_o constantinus_n in_o his_o epistle_n to_o the_o nicomedian_n have_v threaten_v to_o pounishe_v bishop_n and_o priest_n that_o be_v arian_n that_o be_v curse_a and_o abominable_a heretic_n you_o have_v in_o some_o part_n say_v the_o truth_n but_o where_o you_o say_v that_o he_o speak_v of_o the_o wilful_a error_n and_o heresy_n of_o priest_n and_o bishop_n and_o add_v not_o arian_n priest_n and_o arian_n bishop_n you_o conceele_v part_n of_o the_o true_a story_n and_o declare_v your_o malicious_a hart_n against_o priest_n and_o bishop_n but_o to_o leave_v that_o canker_a spite_n of_o you_o to_o the_o judgement_n of_o god_n why_o do_v you_o not_o report_v the_o emperor_n word_n as_o they_o be_v in_o your_o author_n theodoritus_n corruption_n m._n jewel_n corruption_n will_v you_o never_o leave_v this_o your_o accustom_a vile_a corruption_n theodoritus_n say_v not_o as_o you_o report_v but_o thus_o 19_o theodorit_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 19_o quòd_fw-la si_fw-la quis_fw-la audacter_fw-la inconsultéque_fw-la ad_fw-la memoriam_fw-la &_o lauden_a pestium_fw-la illarum_fw-la exarserit_fw-la illius_fw-la statim_fw-la audacia_fw-la ministri_fw-la dei_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la mea_fw-la executione_fw-la coercebitur_fw-la if_o any_o man_n be_v inflame_v bold_o and_o incircumspect_o at_o the_o remembrance_n and_o commendation_n of_o those_o wicked_a and_o pestilent_a heretic_n his_o boldness_n shall_v be_v repress_v straightwaie_o by_o execution_n do_v by_o i_o that_o be_o the_o minister_n of_o god_n and_o these_o threaten_a word_n of_o the_o emperor_n be_v to_o be_v refer_v to_o the_o people_n of_o nicodemia_n for_o to_o they_o the_o epistle_n be_v direct_v and_o have_v temporal_a jurisdiction_n as_o power_n of_o life_n and_o death_n over_o they_o he_o put_v that_o terror_n into_o their_o heart_n that_o they_o shall_v be_v neither_o in_o love_n nor_o in_o admiration_n 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