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A25401	Of the right of tithes a divinity determination in the publike divinity schools of the University of Cambridg / by ... Lancelot Andrews ... ; translated for the benefit of the public.; Theologica determinatio de decimis. English	Andrewes, Lancelot, 1555-1626.	1647 (1647)	Wing A3144; ESTC R19352	16,526	27

Temporal or Lay Office in the Common-wealth that at first and as long as any thing was held religious or holy they were so too but afterward were swallowed up in the stomach of the Common-wealth Of what credi● it is I know not but I remember that Musculus relates that in the first beginings of the Church the right and use of Tithes was taken away from the Idol-Priests and instated on the Presbyters of the Church But this is most certain that the places of Payment and Accounts of Tithes though in declining times they fell into the power and possession of Kings and Princes did at first belong to the Priests For when in the begining the same men were both Kings and Priests as Plato reports of the Kings of Egypt and Virgil of Anius King Anius King of men Apollo's Priest the Priesthood being afterwards as too hard and troublesome a companion transfer'd from themselves to others they did notwithstanding retain the Tithe as a dowry to themselves But that rather by Custome then Law that a corrupt Custom too For that in the Prophet Samuel is no description of a good King but a Tyrant Which makes me wonder the more at them who would have the Levites Tithe to be part of the Kings Inheritance and that Kings did part with their own Right when Tithes were confer'd upon the Church But this falls to the ground by the example of Mel● hisedek who surpasleth the antiquity and faith of all Histories who both persons of King and Priest meeting in him did not receive Tithes by right of his Kingdom but his Priesthood I should offend against the time and against you if I should produce any more of these mens trifles in this presence nor would any pleasure accrue from thence to you nor advantage to the cause Nor do I alleage any new Writers because they for the most part do rather touch upon some heads and not apply themselves home and strongly to the cause Any even the most learned Author is otherwise to be esteemed of when he doth but salute a Question and touch it lightly otherwise when he takes it to task and thorowly dis●usseth it And in truth if I would never so fain bring them forth yet the scales would hang even in suspence For to my thinking Luther Melancthon Brentius would be for us Calvin Martyr Bucer go another way Wherefore I will dismiss and leave you to your selves Here shall be an end Two Patriarchs as many Prophets CHRIST his Apostles the whole Church Fathers Councils History both Laws Civil and Canon Reason the imperfect pieces and fragments of the Heathen and finally Experience it self have brought in their evidence for Tithes Which if they seem to you to deserve your vote and suffrage and to have spoken home and good Reason be you if you please with me of the same minde and judgment That Tithes ought not to be abrogated S. MATTH. 23. 23. Wo unto you Scribes and Pharisees Hypocrites for ye pay Tithe of Mint and Anise and Cumin and have ●mited the weightier matters of the Law Iudgment Mercy and Faith these ought ye to have done and not to leave the other undone FINIS Decemb. 15 1646. Imprimatur JOHN DOWNAME L. 9. de Plantis c. 4. Gen 14● 21. Luke 7. 25 Prov. 14 4 Argu. I. Gen 14. 20 Heb 7. 2. {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} Heb. 7. 5. Ps. 110 4. Argu. 2. 1 Pet. 3. 6. Gen 28. 20 21 22. Num. 18. 31. 2 Chron. 31. 4. 〈◊〉 Argu. 3. Cap. 3. v. 9 10. Cap. 13. Cap. 11. Hom. lib. 50. c. 48. Argu. 4. Matth. 23. 23. Homil 73. in ● Matth. Argu. 5. {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} Argu. 6. Argu. 7. Argu. 8. Argu. 9. P. 2. C. 1● Q. 2. 7. Hom● ●● in Epis●●●d● ph●s E●ist 66. ●d F●rnit ●om 11. in 18. Num ● Stromat 2. Ed●● V●rone●s ●ol 155. Arg. 10. Argu. 11. Cap. 16. Q. 1. Ad Casulan Ad Luci● Arg. 12. Tit. de praes●riptione ●●ge An●sta● s●● 1 Arg. 13. ● Cor. 9. In Prytanaeo De Orbis concordia l. 3. c. 10. 2 Cor 3. 8 9. ● 3. rerum Graecarum {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} Q 18. Geni●l dierum li● 4. cap. 10. De Plantis 8. sub in●t In Gen. c. 14. 1 Sam. 8. 15.

Of the Right of TITHES A Divinity Determination in the Publike Divinity Schools of the University OF CAMBRIDG By the Right Reverend Father in GOD Lancelot Andrews Late Lord Bishop of WINCHESTER When he proceeded Doctor in Divinity Translated for the benefit of the Publike 1 COR. 9. 13. Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the Temple And they which wait at the Altar are partakers with the Altar Vers. 14. Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which Preach the Gospel should live of the Gospel London Printed for Andrew Hebb at the Bell in S. Pauls Church-yard 1647. TITHES Ought not to be abrogated THat such anciently were the manners of men and such the times wherein the condition of the Priesthood was sumptuous and most flourishing not onely with those truly excellent Ornaments of Learning but also with those of Riches and Preferments History the witness of Truth is a sufficient evidence Among the Heathen Theophr●stus is my Author That in stead of the Tithe wherin notwithstanding we take our selves to be very bountiful the thirds were paid Among the Iews Philo reporteth That the wealth of the C●rban was oftimes the object of envy to the neighboring Kings Among the Christians as in other Nations so truly in this our it is certain That the desire to increase the Revenue of the Clergy proceeded to such a height that it was greatly to be feared lest the Church should swallow up the Common-wealth That therefore it was seasonably taken into consideration then and so is now when there is little need of caution that no Lands should be bequeathed in Mortmane i. e. to sacred uses without the Royal Patent Such anciently were the manners of men and such the times While mens manners and the times were such a disputation touching the right of Tithes was nor doubtful nor necessary But at length in this our age when as commonly old men so the world growing old is wholly set upon money there is a general chiragra an epidemical Gout in the hand There are no improvements to the Clergy would that were all there are frequent impairings I say frequent impairings and I wish it might onely be said there are and that there might never be cause of using the future tense But to this humor of the present age wherein what for that unholy hunger after gold there is nothing esteemed Holy we may adde another Error That those Worthies not to be named without all honorable respect whose help God made use of for the Reformation of Religion were very solicitous for the Reformation of Doctrine but less attended the Churches Patrimony and almost said what the King of Sodom did to Abraham Give us the souls and take the rest to you But as they who thought they should finde the Baptist in Kings Courts so they who thought they should finde Abraham there were both deceived Which Error though a small one and a small one indeed it is if we compare it with those great and famous acts performed by them yet we may justly fear will lie heavy upon succeeding Ages an which true-hearted honest men from that of Solomon Where no oxen are the crib is clean presage Barbarism or somewhat worse which I will not speak of falsly perchance and I pray God it prove so but not rashly I am sure not without cause And indeed they ought to have withstood the beginings as we say and have snatched this sweet bit from this eating and drinking Age which perverts all to most detestable use and have taken care not onely of increasing the light but also of allowing oil Which because not done this evil spreds daily more and more and the devourers of Church-Revenues whisper up and down in corners as most an end the maner is that the Church may be impleaded and sued for the remainder of Tithes and thereupon finde out new quirks to put Her in a worse condition then talk of a stipend Finally so turn themselves on all sides that the Clergy may at last say it to their sorrow Their sowing or their mowing is nothing to us To pass by other things as lost and gone by prescription I shall make bold to plead for Tithes and shall thereupon challenge them who are otherwise minded and prove that the Tithes of the yeerly comings in are by the highest equity due to the Clergy and that no Parliaments no Lords or Commons can settle that affair more wisely then it was of old provided for by the Sacred Law then God the Lawyer himself so absolute that Iustinian is no body to Him had proclaimed many ages since I am to treat of a hard point nor is there any by whose candle I shall light mine wherefore it will be your part Reverend Brethren if I shall compass my designe to do as you do but if I shall fail or come short of it to vouchsafe your pardon as is meet to me the first that make experiment Tithes ought not to be abrogated I Need not explain terms Who knows not what the Tithe is one part of ten Or who doubts what it is to abrogate Either to unsettle what is settled by Law or in stead thereof to appoint a stipend Let us therefore set about the businesse What Christ did in the cause of Div●rc● I conceive to be of great con●ernment First of all to inquire how any matter stood in the begining In the flux of time many things are changed The begining is the most certain Rule and Iudg. I demand therefore who was the first that received T●●he That great man Melchisedek to whom Abraham gave the T●he of all Melchisedek received Tithe from Abraham but were they free or due Voluntary or by Law If free and voluntary the Argument is of no force and the Apostle puts a trick upon the Hebrews when he compares the Levites with him For the reason is not alike The Levites require their Titbe by Law for they have a commandment to take Tithe of the people Melchisedek his because Abraham would not because he ought Again if this service were voluntary and free Melchisedek were no with better then Abraham For what hindereth but that I may debase my self and do voluntary honor if I please even to my inferi●● My civility indeed would be the more commended But if upon both these considerations this were absurd it follows that he paid Tithe not as a voluntier but as they were due by Law Concerning the Law then I demand again By what Law Not of Sacrifice for he offered none of Blessing then it 's clear For there is a coherence betwixt these two Melchisedek blessed and Abraham paid Tithe Now I assume Tithes are due to Mel●hisedek blessing The same right remaineth under Christ How can that be made to appear Out of the 12. verse of the 7. Chapter to the Hebrews There is no change of the Law but by the change of the Priesthood But