Selected quad for the lemma: cause_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
cause_n	king_n	kingdom_n	law_n	3,513	5	4.8070	4	true

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A27045	The successive visibility of the church of which the Protestants are the soundest members I. defended against the opposition of Mr. William Johnson, II. proved by many arguments / by Richard Baxter ; whereunto is added 1. an account of my judgement to Mr. J. how far hereticks are or are not in the church, 2. Mr. Js. explication of the most used terms, with my queries thereupon, and his answer and my reply, 3. an appendix about successive ordination, 4. letters between me and T.S., a papist, with a narrative of the success.	Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691.; Johnson, William, 1583-1663.	1660 (1660)	Wing B1418; ESTC R17445	166,900	438

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ne_fw-la sibi_fw-la debitum_fw-la detrahat_fw-la cum_fw-la alteri_fw-la honorem_fw-la offer_v indebitum_fw-la 1._o here_o he_o affirm_v that_o the_o title_n of_o universal_a be_v never_o use_v by_o any_o of_o his_o predecessor_n nor_o receive_v 2._o that_o it_o be_v a_o profane_a title_n 3._o that_o it_o be_v a_o injury_n to_o other_o patriarch_n 4._o that_o its_o unbeseeming_a a_o christian_a mind_n to_o assume_v it_o 5._o that_o its_o undue_a 6._o he_o persuade_v the_o bishop_n of_o alexandria_n and_o antioch_n to_o give_v it_o to_o no_o man_n whosoever_o obj._n but_o he_o say_v that_o the_o council_n of_o chalcedon_n offer_v it_o he_o ans._n 1._o if_o he_o renounce_v it_o as_o undue_a and_o profane_a and_o say_v that_o de_fw-fr facto_fw-la none_o of_o his_o predecessor_n take_v it_o this_o be_v as_o much_o as_o we_o desire_v 2._o that_o at_o the_o council_n of_o chalcedon_n near_o 150._o year_n before_o this_o two_o deacon_n that_o they_o say_v have_v no_o vote_n call_v theodorus_n 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