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The ouerthrow of the iustification of workes and of the vain doctrin of the merits of men with the true affection of the iustification of faith and of the good workes that procead or come of the same, and in what respect our good workes are crouned or rewarded of God settte foorth dialoge wise by John Veron
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Véron, John, d. 1563.
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agayne what it is too be iustifyed by fayth For these thinges being well and substantially vnderstanded I do not doubt but that the teste wyll bee a greate deale the playner PHILALETHES To be iustified by workes is by our owne deedes to deserue remission and forgeuenesse of synnes and too pourchase vnto oure selues saluation Or elles thus They are iustifyed by workes in whose life there is founde suche cleanelinesse and holynesse as maye deserue the testimonye of righteousnesse before the iudgement seat of God or that wyth the vprightenesse of theyr woorkes be able to aunswer and satysfye Goddes iustyce and iudgemente DYDIMVS I beleue that they are very thynne sowen that with the vprightnesse of theyr workes be able to aunswer and satisfy the iustice and iudgemente of God PHILALETHES They are very thyn sowen in dede For non Christ onely excepted could euer do it And therefore Christ only hath satisfied the iustyce of God all the chyldren of Adam beinge at defiaunce with their owne righteousnesse oughte to crye oute wyth Dauid and sai Enter not in to iudgemeÌ„t with thy seruauÌ„t o lord Psal 143. for in thy sight shal no maÌ„ liuiÌ„g be iustified ALBI. And what is it to be iustified by fayth PHI. They are iustifyed by faith What it is to be iustyfied by fayth that being excluded froÌ„ the righteousenesse of workes do by faythe take holde one the righteousenesse of Christe wherwyth when they are clothed and appareylled they appeare in the syghte of God not as synners but as ryghteouse personnes ALBION Obiecti ∣ on i. This me thinke is a verye coumfortable doctrine But yet it wyll not be alowed of all men for the most parte wyll stil maintaine that we are iustified by workes and not by faith onlye aleadginge for the probation of this their sayinge the second chapiter of Iames Iam. 2. wher he saieth on this maner was not our father Abraham iustified throughe workes when he offered Isaac his son vpon the altar And a little after ye se then how that of woorkes a man is iustified and not of faithe onlye Either ye muste saye they make the holy Apostels to disagree or ye muste graunte with Iames that of works man is iustified and not of faith onlye Aunswer PHILALETHES God wotte this is a poore helpe that they doe bringe for them selues For firste and formoste let vs marke the history that Iames doeth make meÌ„tion of and we shal soone perceiue how ignorauntly they behaue theÌ„ selues in expoundinge the wordes of the Apostell We reade in the xv chapiter of Genesis Gen. 15. that Abraham beleued the Lord and it was coumpted vnto him for righteousnesse Which texte is of Paule aleaged after this sort If Abraham were iustified by workes Rom. 4. he hath wherein to reioyce or glorye but not with God For what saith the scripture Abraham beleued God and it was imputed vnto him for righteousnesse Wherby the holye Apostle Abraham was iustyfied .xxx. yeares afore he offered his sonne Isaac doeth proue most stronglye that Abraham our father was iustified by faithe But this that Iames doeth speake of whiche is the offerynge of Isaac was done xxx yeares after that the scriptures did pronounce Abraham to be iustified or that his faith was coumpted vnto him for righteousnesse Verely fyth that .xv. yeares afore that Isaac was borne Gene. 22. Abrahams faythe was imputed vnto hym for righteousnesse it was impossible that he shoulde be iustifyed by the offering of hys sonne Isaac which was as I sayd before .xxx. years after What if we saye then that the apostle doeth only go about to shewe What faith Abraham was iustified by that the fayth whiche Abraham was iustifyed by was no idel or dead fayth but such a faith as made hym obedient vnto God as it is more playnelye set foorthe in the .ii. to the Hebrewes EV. This that ye haue brought in now is of greate strength And truly I do not see which way thei can wind theÌ„ selues out of the briers if the history the circumstaunces of the same be weyghed a ryghte PHI. We wil yet go to worke with them another way and shew how that ther is no repugnaunce at al in the doctrine of the Apostels For what contrariety or repugnaunce could ther be in their doctrine sith that they wer both lead by one spirit Therfore we shal marke that the holy Apostle S. Paul in his epistels to the Romains to the Galathians did dispute and reason against theÌ„ that did atribute iustificatioÌ„ to workes but. Note this diligeÌ„tly S Iames did wryte against them which did vtterly contempne and despise good workes And therfore Paule sheweth the causes of our iustificatioÌ„ Iames the effectes frutes of the same Paul declareth how we are iustifyed Iames how we are knoweÌ„ to be iustified Paul excludeth workes as not the cause of our iustificatioÌ„ Iames approueth workes as effects proceding of the same Paul denieth that any good workes caÌ„ be in theÌ„ that be not iustyfied Iames affirmeth that they which be iustified caÌ„ in no wise be wtout good woorkes But ye shall heare what S Augustine hath left vnto vs by writing touching the matter Augu. 83. questionum questi 76. Glossa ordinaria Quod Abraham per fidem sine operibus iustificatus est de operibus quâ—e precedebant intelligitur quia per opera quae fecit iustus non suit sed sola fide Hic de operibus agitur quae fidem sequntur Heb. 11. per quae amplius iustificabatur cum tam per fidem fuisset iustus Vnde Paulus dicit Fide obtulit Abraham Isaac quum tentaretur Haec oblatio est opus et testimonium fidei et iustitiae That is too saye That Abraham was iustifyed by faith without works it is to be vnderstaÌ„ded of the workes that dyd goo before For he was not righteouse throughe the workes which he had done but by faythe only Here it is spokeÌ„ of the works that folowe the faith whereby he was more iustifyed whereas he was alreadye before made righteouse by faithe Therfore Paule sayeth The offeringe of Isaac is a testimony of the fayth righteousnesse of Abraham Abraham did offer Isaac with faith when he was tempted This offeringe is a worke and testimonye of his faythe and of hys righteousnesse These things did he write vpon Iames epistell If the offering of Isaac is a testimonie of the faith and righteousnesse of Abraham He coulde not be iustyfied by it but rather it was therby declared that he was iustifyed alreadye So that this obedience of his Rom. 4. which he shewed vnto the word of the Lord did only manifest and shew that he was when he beleued Gods promises made ryghteous before God throughe the same fayth and beleue wherwyth he was so strengthened that geuynge the glorye vnto God he perswaded him selfe fullye that he which had promised was also able to do the thynge that he
the grace of God and of the merites of the death passion and bloudsheddingâ— of his sonne Iesu Christ to attribute our iustification vnto any merites goynge before and also that it is to constrayne the glorie of the free mercy of God to yelde or geue place vnto the dignitie and worthinesse of mens workes DYDIMVS This is a verye godly sayinge and most worthy to be noted of all men Obiect 2 But yet in the meane whyle they will saye styll that although we fynde in the scriptures that fayth iustifieth yet we fynde not quod sola fides iustificat solifidians that fayth onely iustifieth so that this worde onely or alone hath beÌ„ newly added by heretykes Aunswer whom they do commonly calle Solifidians Although we haue not in the scripturs this word sola only or alone yet haue we many wordes that be of like force PHILALETHES Will ye that I tell you the truethe neyghbour Dydimus These stout champions of Antychriste doe nothinge els but seke a knot in a russhe as the common laiyne prouerbe is For alâ—houghe we haue not expresselye this worde sola onelye or alone yet haue we many other wordes that are equipollente or equiualente that is of the same importaunce force For wheÌ„ the holy ghost saith that we are iustified freli by the grace of god through the redeÌ„ption which is in Christ Iesu whome God hathe setfoorth to be a purchasser of mercye throughe faythe in his bloude doeth he not exclude all maner of works deseruinges or merits from our iustification attributinge it vnto fayth onelye wherby we do apprehende and take holde on the grace and mercye of God so surely sealed vp vnto vs with the bloud of that immaculate and vnspotted lamb our sauiour Iesu Christ Rom. 3. In the same selfe chapiter he sayth agayne we conclude that a man is iustified by fayth withoute the workes of the lawe Who doeth not see that he doth here also put away all maner of thynges from our iustification fayth onelye excepted What Paul vnderstandeth by the works of the lawe I am sure that by the workes of the lawe he vnderstandethe those workes that God doethe requyre of vs in hys word and whether ye wyll refer them to the ceremonies or to the morall preceptes and coÌ„maundementes that be conteined in the same it is all one thing to me For the holye ghost doeth testifye euery where that the works of the lawe do not iustify Of the ceremonies rites sacrifices we haue this sufficient testimony of the prophette Dauid Thou desirest no sacrifice psal 51 thoughe I wold geue it thou delitest not in burnte offeringe And therfore being sore troubled in his conscience for his hainous offence that he had coÌ„mitted he did caste the eies of his faith vpoÌ„ the bloud and merit of the sauior promised saying washe me throughly froÌ„ mine iniquity clense me from my syn psal 51. Purge me with Ysope I shal be cleane wasshe me and I shal be whyter then snowe Deliuer me from bloud o God whiche art the God of my saluation And frome thence sainct Paul semeth to haue borowed this his sayinge Heb. 10. The bloud of Bulles and Goates cann not take awaye synnes Gala. 3. And as for the workes coÌ„maunded in the morall preceptes commaundementes Deu. 28. we are sure that they canne not iustifie Abac. 1. Rom. 1. Heb. 10. For why who is able to do them with suche a perfection as God doth requyre And therfore heare what the apostel sayeth in his Epistel to the Galatians Gala. 2. As many as are of the workes of the lawe are vnder the curse For it is written Cursed is eueri man that coÌ„tinueth not in al thinges that are written in the booke of the lawe for to do theym And that no man is iustified by the law in the sight of God it is euident For the iuste shall lyue by faythe Againe in the same selfe Epistell thus doth the apostel write know that a man is not iustified by the workes of the lawe but by the faith of Iesu Christe and euen we haue beleued in Iesus Christe that we mighte be iustified by the fayth of Christe and not by the workes of the lawe Because that by the workes of the lawe no fleshe can be iustified All these sayinges do sufficiently declare that althoughe as I sayed before we haue not expressely this worde sola onely or alon yet we haue many other wordes that are of like importaunce and force The enemies of the truth are to be likened vnto the Arians So that in this point we maye likene the enemies of the trueth vnto the wicked Arians whiche because that these words homousios consubstantialis be not founde in the scriptures will in no wise admit nor alowe them although the thinges signified by them are moste infallibly and certaynly conteyned and sette oute in the booke of God EVTRAPELVS There commeth nowe in to my mynde a certaine saying of the Apostle which as I do suppose wyl serue wel for oure purpose In the Epistle to the Philyppians Phi. 3. he wryteth on this maner The things that wer vantage vnto me the same I couÌ„ted losse for Christes sake and do iudge them to be dounge that I might wynne Christ and mighte be founde in him that is not hauinge myne owne righteousnesse whyche is of the lawe but that whiche is throughe the fayeth of Christe euen the righteousnesse which is of God through fayth What they must do that wil enioy the righteousnesse of Christ It is euydente and playne that saynt Paule here in this place makethe a comparison betwixt things that are contrary shewinge that they which will obtayne or enioye the righteousnesse of Christ muste vtterly forsake their own And therfore in the Epistle to the RomaiÌ„s Rom. 10. he doeth playnelye affyrme that the cause of the ruyne and fall of the Iewes was because that thei went about to establish their own righteousnesse and wold in no wise submit them selues to the righteousenesse of God Wherunto to make the matter the more plain he doth by bi ad these words For Christ is the end of the law for righteousnesse vnâ—o euerye one that beleueth DYDI. I do not very well vnderstande this laste sentence EV. The meaninge of it is this The end of the lawe is to iustlye them that do obserue it But who dyd euer obserue it Therefore i. Cor. 1. Christ hauing fulfilled it for vs is through faith made vnto vs of god wisedom righteousnesse holinesse and redemption So that what so euer is lacking or wanting in vs it is by his perfect obedience most aboundantlye supplyed as farre foorthe as we haue felloweshyppe wyth hym throughe fayth ALBION It reioiceth my very heart to heare suche coumfortable sentences out of the scriptures and worde of God But I wolde fayne learn whether the old doctors doe holde with vs that fayethe onely doeth iustifie