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B09923	An epistle concerning baptism. [occai]sionally written upon the sight [of] two treatises published by Thomas James father of a Presbyterian congre[ga]tion at Ashford in Kent : who [ha]th reflected upon the baptized [C]hristians / [by] [W]illiam Russell.	Russel, William.	1696 (1696)	Wing R2357B; ESTC R187283	23,383	34

peteret baptisnum intelligeret quid sit baptizari None of old Time were wont to be baptized but in a grown Age and who desired it themselves and understood what it was to be baptized Erasmus in his Annotations on the E●istle to the Romans affirms That baptizing of Children was not in use in Paul's Time And Dr. Field in his learned Treatise of the Church pag. 729. affirms That many very antiently who were born of Christian Parents put off their Baptism a long Time insomuch as some were elected Bishops before they were baptized As we read saith he of A●●brose c. The Learned Bossuet speaking of the manner of administring Baptism saith We never read in the Scripture that any were baptized otherwise than by Immersion And we are able to prove from the Acts of Councils and antient Rituals that every-where in the whole Church throughout the World for the space of 1300 Years Baptism was never administred but by Dipping except only in Cases of Necessity And Bellarmine saith Infant-Baptism is called an Apostolical Tradition not written because it is not found written in any Apostolical Book Tom. 1. lib. 4. cap. 2. Where by the way I shall note That if a Man of his Parts and Learning could not find it there I believe others will have as little Success in their search after it And it had been his Interest to have proved it from Scripture as much as any because 〈◊〉 say a greater stress upon 〈◊〉 than 〈◊〉 and these of his Religion for they assert it to be necessary 〈◊〉 ●●ation Let Mr. Ja●● know we do not bring the Testimonies of Hur● he Writers because we think the Holy Scriptures 〈◊〉 to justify our Cause For I may say with Tertullian Lib. contra Hermogenem Adoro Scripturae ple●itudi●● c. I adore the Fuluess of the Scripture let ●●●gexes shew that it is written But to satisfy the World that we are not singular in our Judgments about these Matters as also to obviate an Objection of your Pastor who tells us in his last Trease Pag. 20 That at the rate some Baptists write and 〈◊〉 report the Words of the Learned they would per●●● swade silly People all the Learned Men were almost 〈◊〉 Anabaptists and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 self-condemned being 〈◊〉 as they are in Opinion though of a contrary Practice I answer That although they are of a contrary Practice I hope that can be no Bar to us from reciting their words in favour of our Opinion For Firmum est 〈◊〉 prohationis quod ab ipso adversario sumitur ut veritas 〈◊〉 ipsis inimicis veritatis probetur It is a forcible kind of Proof which is taken from the Adversary himself when ●e Truth is proved from them that oppose the Truth ●nd I have herein followed the Counsel of Lactantius 〈◊〉 1. c. 6. Eos suorum Testimoui●● revincere c. To convince ●hem by their own Testimonies which is the strongest Conviction that may be As it is truly said by Chrysostom Tunc illos maxime revin●●us cum suorum in eos dicta retorquemus We do most ●rcibly convince them when we can retort their own ●yings against them And therefore as Lactantius de vera sapientia cap. 12. faith Satis firmum Testimonium ad probandum veritatem quod ab ipsis perhibetur inimieis That is a sound Argument for the proving of the Truth which is setched from the Enemies of the Truth Yea suppose it were but weak in it self yet it hath great weight against him that brings it For as the Roman Orator observes in the like Case Tuum Testimonium quod in alienare leve est in tua quoniam contra te est gravissinum esse debet Thy Testimony which is but light and frivolous in another Man's Cause yet is weighty in thine own when it is against thy self Now I fancy that the Reason why Mr. James would not have us urge the Testimonies of the Learned for fear of shewing how contradictory some of their Opinions have been to their Practices is lest in so doing he also should be found to be 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 condemned of himself and that in many places of his Book particularly when he brings a Poet to prove that Christ was not baptized by Dipping And in Pag. 20. he saith I would fain know who can prove our Lord Jesus Christ was dipped or plunged in his Baptism or any of those baptized Ones spoken of in the New Testament were so dipped or plunged I will give you the Opinion of some Learned Men upon it in this very Place altho I have said sufficient to it elsewhere and then shew you how Mr. James is condemned by his own Pen. Now if any one saith Maldonate ask why the Evangelists use the Word of Ascending c. It was because Christ ascended or went up out of the Water in the which he had been dipt or drowned Lucas Brugensis saith upon the Place Matth. 3.16 Christ descended into the River after the manner o● others that were baptized as deep as his Thighs o● his Navel for the rest of his Body was dipt by Joh● and not sprinkled only with Water And the Learned Cajetan tells us upon the Place Christ ascended out of the Water therefore Christ was baptized by John not by Sprinkling nor by pouring Wate● upon him but by Immersion that is by dipping o● plunging in the Water Many more Testimonies might be brought from Men 〈◊〉 use Rantism instead of Baptism but that I have al●● exceeded my first Intention But I shall now shew 〈◊〉 that Mr. James like the rest of those I have quo●● hath contradicted himself For in the same 20th 〈◊〉 of his Book where he vapours so mightily and ●enges us to prove that Christ or any others were ●●ized by Dipping as you have seen above yet pre●●y he tells us That Baptism was oft performed by ●ping I gainsay not And in the very next Page he 〈◊〉 I do not produce these Testimonies as tho I would ●●tain that our Lord Jesus was not dipped It seems 〈◊〉 Conscience began to check him whilst he was writ●●● And again in Pag. 25. Who speaks against the Anti●ity of Dipping I thought Mr. James had But he goes 〈◊〉 Dipping there might be in Christ's Time and that the 〈◊〉 way of Baptizing Very well then it seems we pra●●●● the most Antient and the best Way of Baptizing Mr. James's Acknowledgment And himself doth pra●●●● the contrary and therefore must needs be self-con●●ed as practising the worst Way especially if he 〈◊〉 consider That there is neither Precept nor Precedent 〈◊〉 Infant-Sprinkling in all the Word of God But to close this Head I am upon If this be true that 〈◊〉 of the Apostles nor first Ministers of the Gospel 〈◊〉 ever practise the Sprinkling of Infants there must 〈◊〉 some good Reason why they did it not And the best 〈◊〉 think of is because Christ had not commanded them 〈◊〉 do But on the contrary

the whole Body under Water therefore much Water was necessary thereunto without which 〈◊〉 Act of Baptizing could not be performed Now altho T. J. hath trampled upon our Reasons offered in justification of this Practice I hope he will not make so bold with the Spirit 's Testimony as to contradict the Reason he hath given in the Text under Consideration Thus you see that John who was the first Baptizers and sent of God to dip Persons in Water as the beginning of the Gospel and to prepare Christ's Way before him 〈◊〉 Joh. 1.33 He that sent me 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to dip plunge 〈◊〉 overwhelm in Water meaning God the Father Where ever there is mention made of his Baptizing the same Words are used either Bapto or its derivatives If we observe what is said of our Saviour's Baptizing tho Jesus himself did not baptize in his own Person but by his Disciples in every place the same Word 〈◊〉 used as John 3.22 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Also John 4.1 2. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 which all signify to dip to be dipped c. To proceed to the Practice of the Apostles and chief Ministers of the Gospel after our Lord's Resurrection we shall find the same Word used as above in every place where there is mention made of their Baptizing The first Instance is in Acts 2.41 Then they that gladly ●●●ved his Word were baptized the word is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 In Acts 8.12 it is also from the same word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 were dipped both Men and Women And in Acts 8.38 39. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 And he dipped him It is here to be observed that the Administrator Phi●●● as well as the Eunuch went both down into the Water which had been needless if Sprinkling would have ser●●d the ●●rn And when they came there it 's said He ●●●●zed him i. e. dipt him And then it 's further said ●●●y came up out of the Water not from the Side or Surface 〈◊〉 it as Mr. James would insinuate by distinguishing be●●een from and out of for here it is said expresly they 〈◊〉 up out of the Water Also in Acts 10.48 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to be dipped c. To be short There is you see an Account that John the ●●ptist Christ by his Disciples when upon Earth and 〈◊〉 Apostles after his Resurrection did all of them practise 〈◊〉 Holy Ordinance of Baptism by dipping or plunging 〈◊〉 Persons baptized into the Water I will add to this the Testimony of Mr. Dan. Rogers None of old were wont to be sprinkled And saith he I confess my self unconvinced by demonstration of Scripture for Infants sprinkling And further in his Treatise of the two Sacraments Part 1. Chap. 5. he hath these words It ought to be the Church's Part to cleave to the Institution which is Dipping And that he betrays the Church whose Officer he is to a disordered Error if he cleave not to the Institution which is to dip And this leads me to the 4th Particular namely That 〈◊〉 will appear that Dipping is the right way of Baptizing 〈◊〉 we consider that grand Commission of our Saviour Mat. 28.19 the Greek word is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 from 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to dip And being given here by way of Precept it is Dipping them But seeing I have already explained the signification of the Greek words by which Baptism is signified even to tediousness both to my self and you I shall insist no longer upon it As also because I am of Opinion that the Gospel of Matthew was written in Hebrew according to Jerom's Testimony and the Opinion I think of most Learned Men. I shall therefore give you the words so far as they concern our Purpose under this Head as they are in that Language in which I am sure it was spoken if not written It is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 vetabelu Otam and dip ye them The Root is Tabal which is the third Person Singular in the Preterperfect Tense and signifies he dipped And is so rendred in many places in Holy Scripture particularly in 2 Kings 5.15 where speaking of Naaman the Syrian it is said He dipped himself in Jordan seven times and was clean In Mat. 3.6 you have the same Word again in the Passive Voice which must be rendred in English and were dipped of him in Jordan And in Ver. 16. you have the same Root again as it is there applied to our Saviour And Jesus when he was dipped went up straightway out of the Water Also in John 3.22 23. the same Word is used And in John 4.1 2. it is the same in that Hebrew New Testament of Mr. Robertson's who was certainly one of the most Learned Hebricians our Age hath afforded I might add to this the Testimony of the Dutch Translators who call John the Baptist Johannes de Dooper John the Dipper and in this Commission de selve dopende dipping them And if our Translators had generally where that Word had occurred turned it into English as they have into Dutch they had saved me and others the trouble Now if all this will not suffice I know not what will However I will make Mr. James one generous Offer That if he can shew me where our Translators have in any one place rendred Baptizo to sprinkle or è contra have rendred Rantizo to dip in the New Testament I will grant him the Cause And I do hope if he cannot do it he will own that we are in the right O what a Tyrant Custom is that dares stand up and contradict a thing that is so evident in it self so agreeable to the Reason of the Ordinance to the Etymology of the Word and that from the Pens of our Adversaries and to the use of the Phrase and Expression in Holy Scripture to the Commission of our Lord to the Doctrine and Practice of the first Baptizers both before and after our Saviour's Resurrection and the manner of planting the Primitive Churches Notwithstanding all this I say Custom in a wrong ●ay makes Men bold to oppose the right Way altho ●●ey acknowledg it is the best In things civil and indifferent I can be content that ●●stom should be my Guide but not in the Matter of ●●dinances and things Sacred the Rule of which lies in 〈◊〉 Institution which we are strictly to observe and is 〈◊〉 in the Power of our Liberty or Choice either to use 〈◊〉 refuse For that Blessing which attends the Use there●●●● is annexed unto our Conformity to the Rule and Insti●●●ion see Mat. 28.20 But to proceed to the second General Head II. That true Penitent Believers are the right Subject of Baptism I shall make it good by doing these three things 1st By examining who John the Baptist who was the 〈◊〉 Baptizer did admit to his Baptism 2ly Who our Saviour commanded to be baptized in 〈◊〉 grand Commission Mat. 28. ●ly Who it was practised upon by