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A77137 A defence and justification of ministers maintence by tythes. And of infant-baptism, humane learning, and the sword of the magistrate; which some Anabaptists falsely call four sandy pillars, and popish foundations of our ministry and churches. In which tythes are proved to be due by divine right to the ministers of the gospel. All common objections answered, and divers cases of conscience humbly proposed: with a light to clear them. / In a reply to a paper sent by some Anabaptists to Immanuel Bourne, late pastor of the church in Asheover in the county of Derby: now preacher to the congregation at Waltham in the county of Leicester. With a short answer to Anthony Peirson's great case of tythes, &c. Bourne, Immanuel, 1590-1672. 1659 (1659) Wing B3851; Thomason E1907_1 92,679 184

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Archbishop of Canterbury his project destroyed lest as was pretended Puritan Ministers should fill the places But how sad his end was for this and other practises proved against him is yet fresh in memory All the politick wisdom in his head could not keep his head and body together It is and ought to be grief of spirit to remember or record these things to posterity I shall only leave some Quaere's or Cases of Conscience to be enquired into and laid to heart of all they may concern and draw to an end of this Branch and Reply to that false accusation of these Anabaptists That Tythes are the wages of unrighteousness and Ministers that take them Antichristian deceivers as in their Answer they declare themselves First let all enquire and consider Quaere 1 or Case of conscience since as God did take away the posterity of King William the Conqueror he did also take away the posterity of King Henry the Eight both guilty of this sin of Sacrilege Whether this sin was not or might not be one principal ●in which provoked God to remove them and theirs from the Government of these Nations Secondly Quaere 2 Since God hath removed King James and King Charls and their children from the power of Government whether their not endeavoring to reform this sin of Sacrilege might not be one sin and cause amongst others of their removal and translating of the power from them to the present Power now in the Land Thirdly Quaere 3 Whether the Honorable Parliaments since that Parliament in the time of King Henry the Eight when this Sacrilege was chiefly committed and the Popes Sacrilege in part justified by their giving consent to King Henry to alienate Impropriate Tythes and Glebe-lands from their proper particular Churches and especially later Parliaments to whom God gave a greater power to reform this sin of Sacrilege and to redeem Impropriations have not been one sinful neglect and cause which provoked God to afflict them and the Nation with such ill success of Disagreement among themselves and with the chief Magistrates of these Nations from time to time yea to humble them and us with the loss of that power which once God had put into their hands not only for redeeming Impropriations and setling a sufficient honorable Maintenance for an able godly Ministery throughout the Nation that so many thousand souls might not perish for lack of knowledge But of the power and opportunity of enacting other good Laws for preservation of Truth and true peace and prosperity in this Commonwealth which we have cause to seek the face of God daily for in and through the Lord Jesus Christ Fourthly Quaere 4 Whether the great losses that the Nation hath sustained in general and of those noble and ignoble men in special who hold Impropriations and Tythes from the Faithful Ministers of Christ the right owners may not in part arise from this sin of Sacrilege for detaining that in their hands which is Gods reserved part or Gods consecrated portion for the maintenance of his faithful Godly painfull Ministers in the service of Christ I have said enough before I need speak no more for the justification of the right of Tythes both Divine and Civil by the Laws of God and the Law both in former and late Parliaments His Highness Procl Novemb. 1659. in the Humble Petition and Advice in the days of the late Lord Protector and of his Highness since by his late Proclamation for encouragement of godly Ministers and enjoying their dues and liberties according to Law I shall conclude this but with a few words to you John Darker and Tobias Watsen and to the Thirty Congregations whose Faith you sent me and which you would pretend to be of your opinions Friends I desire you to consider what is professed by them in the Fifty eighth Section That it is the good pleasure of God which hath given gifts of his grace to the Saints or Church of God that some of the gifted men should be appointed or set apart to attend upon the preaching of the Word c. And Section Fifty nine A book intituled The Faith and practise of Thirty Congregations printed 1651. p. 50. sect 58 59 60. That it is the will of God that those which are appointed so to spend their labors in teaching or exhorting in the knowledge of God to their edification and consolation ought to have maintenance of those that receive spiritual food by them You say They ought to have maintenance certainly then it is the peoples duty to maintain them by your own confession otherwise how can you say they ought to have maintenance And if they ought to have maintenance why not Tythes appointed by God himself and approved both before and since the coming of Christ and in the Church of God yea by Christ himself as I have proved at large as well as any other maintenance of Charity or Alms as you or they would pretend in their next Section And if they be appointed or set apart to attend upon the preaching of the word as they say in the Fifty eighth Section Then how ought they to labor with their hands that they may not be over-chargeable as they say in Section Sixty and for which they alleadge 1 Cor. 4.12 St. Paul's practise in a time of persecution and extreme necessity This they seem to bring in by head and shoulders to justifie the preaching of laborers men of Mechanick Trades Taylors and Carpenters Smiths and Tinkers and of Mercers and Bakers and other such like But if you or they had consulted the same Apostle in the same Epistle Chapter 9. Verse 6 7. you might have learned that both Paul and Barnabas had power to forbear working It was not any Ordinance of Christ that they or any other Minister of Jesus Christ should work with their hands to maintain themselves or get a livelihood but that they that preach the Gospel should live of the Gospel as the Apostle testifieth 1 Cor. 9.18 I let pass divers Errors in that Declaration of their Faith too long to trouble the Reader with I shall conclude this with prayer to God that the Lord would open the eyes both of you and them to see your error and sin in departing from or at least continuing your forsaking of our Reformed and Reforming Congregations making Rents and Schisms in the Churches of Christ and giving advantage to the common enemy to destroy the godly party either amongst us or your selves For although you are too full of error yet I dare not think but some who are not satisfied with the practise of Infant Baptism may yet be members of Christ though sick with error and such as stand in great need of healing by the Sun of Righteousness who will arise to them that fear his name with healing in his wings Mal. 4.2 For such as are of Antichristian persecuting spirits against the godly faithful Ministers of Christ in England who have and