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A65422 Popery anatomized, or, A learned, pious, and elaborat treatise wherein many of the greatest and weightiest points of controversie, between us and papists, are handled, and the truth of our doctrine clearly proved : and the falshood of their religion and doctrine anatomized, and laid open, and most evidently convicted and confuted by Scripture, fathers, and also by some of their own popes, doctors, cardinals, and of their own writers : in answer to M. Gilbert Brown, priest / by that learned, singularly pious, and eminently faithful servant of Jesus Christ M. John Welsch ...; Reply against Mr. Gilbert Browne, priest Welch, John, 1568?-1622.; Craford, Matthew. Brief discovery of the bloody, rebellious and treasonable principles and practises of papists. 1672 (1672) Wing W1312; ESTC R38526 397,536 586

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desperat propounders and ring-leaders of that treason against King James and Prince Henry at his coming to England for which the said Watson and Clerk suffered the reward of traitors So that H. T. and other Papists are not to be believed for they will say any thing maintain any assertion that they may make for the advancement of their cause 3. What is the matter although they pretend to grant to the King all that the Sorbon Doctors and Parliament of Paris grant yea what although they profess to swear their allegiance are we the safer seeing they change their principles according as they see occasion and seeing they hold that the Pope can dispense with any oath even after they have taken it as I have proven before And did not Parsons and Campian anno 1580. notwithstanding of their strict oath to obey the Pope in all things procure a dispensation to free all Catholicks from obeying the Popes own declaratory Bull of excommunication against Queen Elizabeth till a better opportunity So you see they can get a dispensation from the Popes own Bull if they find it not seasonable What oath then will bind them especially to these they account heretical For that is one of their principles No faith is to be kept to hereticks as we shewed you They can change themselves Proteus-like in any form When there is no remedy they will yeeld to any thing But when they see their time they will do any thing I shal close all with the testimony of two great Doctors and Bishops in King James time the first whereof is Doctor Andreus Bishop of Winchester who in a sermon on Nov. 5. 1616. speaking of the reason that Bellarmin gives why the primitive Christians did not rise up against persecuting Emperors id fuit quia deerant vires He makes this collection that is as much as to say if they now in these days be so as they were then and carry themselves quietly it is quia non sunt vires and to hold no longer then donec erunt And then you are like to hear of them to have them go again with such another birth Ye shal have them as myld as Gregory the first when they have no strength But as fierce as Gregory the 7. when they have and afterwards thus See ye not next under God whereto to ascribe your safety even to non erant vires there is a point hangs on that for while that lasts while ye keep them there ye shal have the primitive Church of them have them to ly as quiet as still as ever did the barrels in the vault till vires like fire come to them and then off go they then nothing but depose Kings dispose of Kingdoms assoil subjects arm them against their Soveraigns then do they care not what But if the powder take not fire then shal you straight have books tending to mitigation then all quiet again certainly thus standing it were best to hold them in defectu virium to provide ut ne sint to keep them at non sunt vires till time they be better minded in this point and we have good assurance of it for minded as they are they want no will no virus they tell us what the matter is strength they want they write it they print it and si adessent vires they would act it in earnest Thus he The second is Doctor Prideaux in a Sermon on Nov. the 5. who having reckoned up a Catalogue of the damnable doctrines of Popery professeth to have done it To make it appear to these that would willingly be better perswaded of their doctrine that the doctrine it self directly warranteth treason Let the traitors be what they will and that none can be an absolut Papist but if he throughl● understand himself and live under a Christian Prince that hath renounced the Popes authority must needs being put unto it be an absolut traitor Thus I hope ye have it proved both from their principles and practise that if Popery or Papists get any strength or footing in a Kingdom it will tend undoubtedly to the ruine of both King and Kingdom Yet the Papists are grown so impudent of late as to charge the Protestants integrity of rebellion and rebellious principles and excuse their own rebellious principles As in a Treatise intituled Philanax Anglicus dedicated to the Archbishop of Canterbury But Peter du Moulin hath learnedly answered it And truly herein they deal with us as Verres did with Tully Verres himself was a very notorius thief and knew that Cicero had much against him in that kind and therefore he knavishly and impudently calls Cicero the thief first though a very true man and noble Orator It is just so in this case Now I pray what case may both King and Kingdom expect to be in if Papists get any strength or power Have they not given infinit proofs both of old and late of their rebellious disposition and treasonable practises SECTION V. Containing some instances in particular of the barbarous and inhumane cruelty of Papists to Protestants where they had the power over them I Have hitherto shown that both the principles and practises of Papists tend to treasons rebellions war and blood-shed I shal in this Section to detect their cruelty give some instances in particular of their barbarous inhumane cruelty to Protestants where ever they get power authority or the upper-hand over them This is so well known that none that knows any thing of History are ignorant of it Ought ever the sad and deplorable case of England in Queen Maries time to be forgotten when either the soul behoved to be ruined by Idolatry or else the body to be burnt in a fire This was an unanswerable Dilemma either soul or body must perish How many hūdreds of Martyrs were burnt in one year all the Countrey over Their inhumane cruelties executed on Protestants are so many and terrible that they would make up many Volumes and make the hair to stand and the ears to tingle What greater torments are imaginable then is used in the Inquisition of Spain and Italy as it is described by M. Clerk in his Martyrologie But that the Reader may know ex ungue leonem their cruel and inhumane carriage to Protestants I shal set down a few instances I shal begin with the Waldenses in Provence against whom Meinerus President of Oppede anno 1545. raised war coming to Cabriers in which there were only 60. poor sick pesants who offered to open the gates and quite the Countrey leaving all their goods behind them but he entering the town caused all the men to be brought in a field and to be cut in pieces The souldiers striving who should show the best manhood in cutting of heads arms and leggs The women he caused to be locked in a barn with much straw and so put fire to it where many women great with child were burnt One souldier moved with pitie opening a hole in the wall that
disdain to submit their heads to me and to swear to me their oath of alleageance and fidelity Pope Clement 5. de jurejurando The Pope may depose Kings from their Kingdoms and absolve their subjects from their oath of alleageance and interdict their Kingdoms and set up others in their room Sext. Decretal de sentent re judicata cap. ad Apost item Glossa Childerick King of France was deposed and Pepin set in his room Pope Zachary causa 15. quaest 6. cap. Alius Henry the fourth Henry the fifth Frederick the first Otho the fourth Frederick the second Conradus his son all Emperors were excōmunicat and deposed by the Popes Justinianus Otho the first Frederick the first Henry the fifth Sigismundus Carolus the fifth all Emperors and Monarchs admitted by the Popes of Rome to kiss their feet And if this had been their practise only and not their doctrine this pride and arrogancy might have been imputed to the persons and not to the seat But his doctrine is so Author ceremoniarum lib. 1. 3. The Pope of Rome doth reverence to no mortal man All men of whatsoever dignity or preeminence they are of so soon as they come in the presence of the Pope ought to kneel thrise down and to kiss his feet The Emperor as soon as he sees the Pope with his bare head kneeling to the ground he worships him and kisses his feet The Emperor holds the stirrop while the Pope leaps on So did Constantin the Great saith their Canon Law Dist 96. cap. Constant The Emperor at the banket holds the water to the Pope to wash his hands and brings the first dish to the Popes table And if the Pope be to be carried in a chair he or the King if they be present ought to carry the Pope in the chair on their shoulders So this is clear both by their doctrine and practise how far they have lifted up themselves above the Kings and Monarchs of the world so that Pope Gelasius saith That Emperors are more inferior to Popes then lead is to gold Dist 96. cap. 2. Their superiority over the spiritual power of the Church of Christ hath been shown in part before But for the further proof of it they say That the Pope is above all General Councils and that they take their force and confirmation only by him Pope Marcel dist 17. cap. Synodum And that he is supreme Judge in all controversies of Religion whose judgement is also infallible Bellarm. de Primat Pap. And where God hath ordained all causes among men to be judged by men he hath only reserved the Pope to be judged by himself and that he cannot be judged by any neither of Kings nor of the Emperor nor of the whole Clergy nor of the people Symmachus Pope 99.3 Aliorum Pope Innocentius 9. quaest 3. cap. Nemo And that he is Judge over all the Churches and that without a Council both to absolve and condemn and none to judge of his judgement and all to appeal to him and none from him whose judgement must stand as given out of heaven by the mouth of Peter himself which no man must break or retrait no man must disput or doubt of Anastas quaest 3. cap. Antiquis Item 11. quaest 3. cap. Quamvis cap. Quatuor dist 19. cap. Sic omnes 9. quaest 3 cap. Pater Pope Innocentius 2. art 17. quaest 4. cap. Si quis dist 19. cap. In memoriam Sext. decret tit 7. de renunciatione cap. Quoniam And that in omni re dubiâ that is in all controversies of Religion he must obediently of all the faithful be heard whether he can err or not Bellarm. de Pont. lib. 4. cap. 2. And that he may make lawes to bind the consciences of men cap. 15. and that he may creat new Religions Anton. sum 3. part tit 22. cap. 5. His power over them that are in Purgatory and Hell According to his absolut jurisdiction he hath power to spoil all Purgatory by the communication of his Indulgences and Pardons except only them who have only the Baptism of the Spirit and infants who are in Limbo Patrum Ibidem and these who have not friends to do for them The Pope may absolve from an infinit pain to wit from the pain of Hell as Gregory did who by his prayer absolved the soul of Trajan from the infinit pains of Hell Anton. tit 22. cap. 5. The Pope hath as great power in Purgatory and Hell as that he may deliver as many souls as are tormented there by his Pardons and with all speed place them in heaven and seats of the blessed as he pleaseth Clem 6. in bulla Anton. ibidem cap. 6. His power over heaven and all the powers therein All power in heaven and earth is given to me saith Boniface the 8. The Pope hath so great power in heaven that he may canonize any dead man and place him among the Gods and that against the judgement of his Bishops and all his Cardinals Clemen 6. Bulla Troilus in tract de canonizatione sanct He commands the Angels to take souls out of Purgatory and to carry them to heaven Clem. 6. in Bulla His power is greater then the power of all the Saints Baldus God hath subjected the Angels in heaven to the Pope and he is greater then they in four respects and no less honor is due unto the Pope then to the Angels and then greater saith he for the Pope receives from the faithful adoration and kissing of his feet which the Angel would not permit to be done to him by John Anton. ibidem tit 22. cap. 5. What needs more now for the proof of this mark Doth not he lift up himself above all that is called God who claimes power over heaven and earth and hell This they cannot deny But I assume their own Clarks Doctors Popes and Bulls testifie this which they cannot choose but confess also Therefore of necessity the Popes of Rome have exalted themselves above all that is called God and therefore they are that undoubted Antichrist which was to come and now is come And as they have exalted themselves above all heavenly powers so have they matched themselves with Jesus Christ for these things are only proper to Jesus Christ To have all power given him to have all things subject to him under heaven to be greater then all the Angels to receive that worship which the Angels refuse to command the Angels to make laws to bind the consciences of men to creat and institut new Religions And yet the Pope hath arrogated all these things to himself as hath been proved Therefore he is that undoubted Antichrist For he that makes himself equal to the Son of God lifts up himself above all that is called God this cannot be denyed But the Popes of Rome have done so in challenging to themselves these things which are only proper to the Son of God therefore they must be the Antichrist Further these things are
own selves covetous boasters proud blasphemers disobedient to parents unthankful unholy Without natural affection truce-breakers false accusers incontinent c. Traitors heady high-minded c. From such turn away TO THE LOVERS OF THE Reformed Religion in Britain and Ireland Grace mercy and peace DEarly beloved in the Lord The great increase of Popery every where is so visibly seen and so evidently known that to speak any thing to prove and evidence the same were altogether needless seeing he is a great stranger in our Israel that knoweth it not But alace there is very great decay of zeal and hatred against that Whore that if our glorious Predecessors whose excellent Motto it always was No peace with Rome were alive they would wonder to see us so brutish and sensless indifferent and lukewarm in ae matter of so great moment wherein the honor and glory of God the eternal happiness and felicity of our own and our posterities souls and the safety and preservation of Kings Kingdoms our lives estats and all that is near and dear to us is so much and so nearly concerned Therefore for letting us see our hazard in all and every one of these as we have revised and republished the above written excellent Treatise of that learned godly and eminently zealous and faithful servant of Christ M. John Welsch whose memory is very precious in the Church of Christ who doth learnedly and plainly to any ordinary capacity discover the abominations of that Whore and solidly prove her doctrine both to be most heretical and damnable and her self to be the very Antichrist that all who love the truth of God and the salvation of their immortal souls may be stirred up to a just zeal and indignation against her So we have thought fit to subjoyn this following Treatise for discovering to all and every one who love the Reformed Religion and resolve to adhere thereto what treasonable and bloody principles and inhumane and matchlesly cruel practises are maintained and committed by Papists in reference both to Kings Princes and People who profess the Reformed Religion and consequently what all and every one of us may expect to meet with if Popery prevail that so being convinced of our hazard both in body and soul and in all that is near and dear to us we may be stirred up to a real hatred and indignation against that Whore and may be much in the exercise of prayer repentance and other lawful and commanded duties for the putting a stop to the growth of the spreading abominations of that Whore which is earnestly prayed for by Yours for the truth M. C. A BRIEF DISCOVERY OF THE BLOODY REBELlious and treasonable Principles and Practises of Papists SECTION I. Showing that the principles of Papists are treasonable and rebellious against the person and authority of Princes and peace of Kingdoms c. And the excuses of H. T. the Author of the Manual of Controversies are proved to be frivolous and naught THE Church of Rome was formerly most hateful to the Churches of Christ in Britain and Ireland not only because of her most damnable and heretical doctrine but also because of the rebellious and treasonable principles and practises maintained and committed by her against the persons and authority of Princes and peace of Kingdoms her faith being accounted faction and her Religion rebellion Therefore Papists of late have endeavored by all means to ingratiat themselves in the favor of Princes and Magistrats making ample profession of loyalty and fidelity and charging Protestants with the odious crime of disloyalty And thus we see their late Writers denying and disowning the doctrine of Rebellion and Parricide that our Divines have justly charged them with For H T. the Author of the Manual of Controversies c. printed at Doway 1671 calleth it a loud slander to charge Papists with maintaining that if the Pope excommunicat a Tyrant or heretical Prince his own subjects may lawfully kill him Therefore to unmask a little the bloody rebellious and treasonable principles of Papists we shal prove First that it is no slander but a real truth that the Church of Rome holdeth that if the Pope excōmunicateth a King his own subjects may lawfully kill him 2. That the Pope can dispense with the alleageance of subjects to their Princes and if he so dispense then they are loosed from subjection and alleageance to them 3. That no faith nor oath is to be kept with Hereticks 4 That the Pope and Synagogue of Rome have been the Authors of warrs combustions and confusions in Christian Churches and Kingdoms all Europe over 5. That their continual practise ever since the Reformation hath been to plot and practise treasons and rebellions assassinations and murders both of Princes and people who professed the Reformed Religion 6. That whereever they got the upper-hand and dominion in any Kingdom or Common-wealth they have practised most unheard-of cruelties and barbarous inhumanities against the professors of the Protestant Reformed Religion For the first and second of these points to wit that Papists hold that if the Pope excommunicat a King his own subjects may lawfully kill him And that the Pope can dispense with the alleageance of subjects to their Princes and if he so dispense then they are loosed from subjection and alleageance to them I shal evidence it to be their commonly received doctrine both by the writings of their approved Doctors and Bulls of their Popes and their dayly practises And lest they say we wrong them we shal for the most part set down the words of the Authors themselves 1. I shal begin with Doctor Ranchin a Papist and a famous Lawyer in France in his Book intituled A review of the Council of Trent lib. 2. cap. 10. who setteth down these following positions as commonly received in the Church of Rome to wit That it is necessare to salvation to believe that every creature is subject to the Pope of Rome That he it set over Emperors and Kingdoms That he carryeth both the temporal and spiritual sword That he may depose Emperors c. and transfer their Empires and Dominions from one line to another That he may absolve subjects from their oath of alleageance That upon just cause be may set up a King in every Kingdom for he is the overseer of all Kingdoms in Gods stead That it belongeth to the Pope to correct Kings when they offend Much more hath this Author to this purpose 2. But let us hear their own Doctors themselves Augustinus Triumphus de potest Eccles quaest 46. art 2. as Doctor Usher citeth him saith There is no doubt but that the Pope may depose all Kings when there is a reasonable cause so to do Thomas Aquinas their Angelical Doctor holdeth 22. quast 12 art 2. That so soon as a Prince is denounced excommunicat for Apostasie ipso facto his subjects are free from his soverainity and absolved from the oath of alleageance which they are bound to him Bannes and
at the bridge of Dee as is proved at large in a Treatise intituled A Discovery of the unnatural and trayterous conspiracy o● Scottish Papists c. printed by King James special command 1592. And as soon as he entered England Watson and Clerk instilled treasons unto sundry Nobles and Gentle-men against the King and Prince before the Coronation But that not succeeding they fall next to the Gun-powder treason designing to blow up King Parliament all at one blow they hiring the cellers of the Parliament-house in which they laid 36. barrels of gunpowder and 1000. billets and 500. fagots and if God had not discovered their wickedness by a singular providence both King Queen Prince Nobles Knights Citizens Burgesses yea the whole Parliament had all gone with at one blow I spare to speak of the continual treasons and rebellions in Ireland both in Queen Elizabeth and King James reign Or of that memorable design of the Spanish Armado anno 1588. Which however it was attempted by Spain yet all men may know that the English and Scottish Papists kept continual correspondence and were combined with the Spaniard And of the thundering Bull of Pope Sixtus the 5. then sent abroad for confirmation of the several Bulls made by his predecessors Pius the 5. and Gregory the 13. against Queen Elizabeth to the end our Papists might more cheerfully assist in that bloody enterprise Nor were the Papists less active in King Charles the first his reign as M Prin and M. Baxter have evidenced at large Prin in several treatises especially in a treatise intituled Romes Master-piece shows what great plots they had either to ruine King and Kingdom or to procure liberty for the profession of Popery M. Baxter in his Key of Catholicks chap. 45. seqq proveth at large that they plotted contryved and carried on that late change of Government in the State and that cruel and abominable parricide committed on the Royal person of King Charles the first Peter du Moulin junior Chaplain to the Kings Majesty in his vindication of the sincerity of the Protestant Religion in the point of obedience to Soveraigns chap. 2. pag. 58.59 testifieth That the year before the Kings death a select number of English Jesuits were sent from their whole party in England first to Paris to consult with the Faculty of Sorbon then altogether Jesuited to whom they put this question in writing That seeing the State of England was in a likely posture to change Government whither it was lawful for the Catholicks to work that change for the advancing and securing of the Catholicks cause in England by making away the King whom there was no hope to turn from his heresie Which was answered affirmatively After which the same persons went to Rome where the same question being propounded and debated it was concluded by the Pope and his Council that it was both lawful and expedient for the Catholicks to promote that alteration of State What followed that consultation and sentence all the world knoweth The same Author relateth That when the news of that horrible execution came to Roan a Protestant Gentle-man of good credit was present in a great number of Jesuited persons where after great expressions of joy the greatest of the company to whom all gave ear spake much after this sort The King of England at his marriage had promised us the reestablishing of the Catholick Religion in England and when he delayed to fulfil his promise we summoned him from time to time to perform it We came so far as to tell him that if he would not do it we should be forced to take these courses which would bring him to his destruction We have given him lawful warning and when no warning would serve we have kept our vow to him since he would not keep his word to us The said Author likewise relateth That in pursuance of the fore-mentioned conclusion at Rome many Jesuits came over who take several shapes to go about their work but most of them took party in the army About thirty of them were met by a Protestant Gentle-man between Roan and Deep to whom they said taking him for one of their party that they were going to England and would take arms in the Independant army and endeavor to be Agitators Much more hath he to this purpose M. Baxter likewise proveth that many Jesuits did enter in the army and swarmed through the Countrey under the name of Independants Seekers Quakers Levellers c. endeavoring to ruine the Reformed Religion by railing against the Church Ministery Ordinances c. From all which it is evident that the grand work of the Pope and Jesuits his Janisaries is to plot and carry on treasons and bloodshed in Protestant Kingdoms and Commonwealths which they have been still about since the Reformation And no wonder the Priests and Jesuits lay life and all at the stake to accomplish bloody and traiterous designs seeing they are sworn and ingaged by oath to make this their work For the Pope binds all the Jesuits and Priests by oath to inculcat their principles of treason into their proselyts and to stir them up upon all occasions to act it as will be evident to any who will but read the rules of Ignatius Loyola the father of the Jesuits Or the testimony of Pope Urban the 8. in his Bull of Canonization of Ignatius Loyola Touching that Society that beyond all other fraternity they are the chief and most strenuous propugners of the Popes authority And how far do the Jesuits extend their vow of blind obedience Even to the killing of Kings raising of treasons and rebellions whereever they can have access So that Watson in his Quodlibets and other secular Priests have proven and concluded the Jesuits traitors both for tenets and practise But not only are the Jesuits bound by oath to assassinations and rebellions but also the secular Priests themselves who are not Jesuits are bound unto the Pope himself in his Constitutions for ordering of the English Colledge at Rome by oath to propagat rebellion For thus speaks Martin Aspilcueta Doctor Novarrus lib. 3. consil resp concil 1. de regular cited by Doctor Burges At Rome in the Colledge of the English it is a Statut and Papal Constitution that whoever will be admitted into that Colledge he be tyed to swear that after so many years he will travel unto England for defence of the Catholick faith and there preach it both in publick and privat Now what Faith it is that they are bound to preach the treasons and rebellions raised by them can best evidence Now their great work is to corrupt the judgements of their followers and instruments of assassination and treason with poysonous positions touching the nature of such facts and bribe their consciences with strong baits of reward and glory to all that will undertake the acting of treasons and rebellions at their instigation which is a strong incentive to them For men that
Sacraments the Lord hath instituted are publick and not privat but this Sacrament of yours is privatly ministred therefore not a true Sacrament Sixthly all the Sacraments of the New Testament should be ministred by them who have the preaching of the Gospel concredited unto them and not by privat Christians But Innocentius the first a Pope saith in his Epist 1. cap. 8 Private men may minister this in their own and others necessities as also Thomas Waldensis a Papist And yet the Council of Trent accurses them that so say Therefore it is not a Sacrament Seventhly Pope Innocent in that same Epistle cited before calls it but genus Sacramenti a kind of Sacrament therefore it is not properly a Sacrament But you are more bold to call it a Sacrament Eightly all the Sacraments of Christ have their warrant from the written word But Petrus a Soto in his book against Brentius calls this a tradition which hath not the warrant in the written word therefore it is not a lawful Sacrament of Christ And as to your argument That it hath an external form of anointing with oyl of an internal grace which is remission of sins I answer this form or ceremony was extraordinary as I proved before annexed to a miraculous gift of healing The which seeing it is now ceased the ceremonie also should cease And this promise is not made to the anointing if ye will believe the Apostle but to the prayer of faith The prayer of faith saith the Apostle shal save the sick And whereas ye say that we make him a Mediciner only for the bodie in this and not for the soul we answer That this ceremonie as sundrie others was only annexed to the extraordinary gift of healing of the bodie and was not seals of grace And yet with the health of the bodie the healing of the soul was oftentimes joyned as our Savior saith to the paralytick man Thy sins are forgiven thee take up thy bed and walk Matth 9 28. Now whither these be our vain subterfuges or clear grounds out of the Scripture let the Reader judge And whereas ye call us new men let them be new and most recent whose doctrine is most new But as hath and shal be proved by Gods grace our doctrine is not new but Jesus Christs in his Old and New Testament and yours devised since Therefore this title of noveltie most justly belongs unto you This for the sixth point of your doctrine SECTION XV. Concerning Imposition of hands and whither it be a Sacrament Master Gilbert Brown SEventhly our doctrine is that when our Priests which are the only lawful Ministers now adayes are called to that function receives the imposition of hands with the grace or gift of the holy Ghost because it is the doctrine of S. Paul in these words Neglect not the gift or grace that is within thee which is given thee by prophesy with the imposition of priesthood And therefore must be a Sacrament because it hath an external form which is the imposition of hands of an external grace which is the gift given by the same And for this cause a John Calvin himself admits it to be a Sacrament albeit in their Confession they call it a bastard Sacrament of the Popes and detests the same although b Melancthon hath the contrary a Institut lib. 4. cap. 14. sect 20. item lib. 4. cap. 19. sect 28. b In locis com edit 1543. de num sacrament M. John Welsch his Reply As for the seventh point of your doctrine concerning the imposition of hands in the ordination of the lawful Ministers of the Church of Christ because it is a ceremony which hath the foundation of it in the word of God and was practised in the primitive Church as in the ordination of Timothie here and others and is profitable both to put the Pastors in mind of his calling that he is separated of God for the discharge of the same and also the people that they embrace him as one sent of God to them therefore we both acknowledge it and practise it But that either the gift of the holy Ghost is inseparably joyned with it or that it is a Sacrament of the New Testament properly as you affirm that we deny As to the first the gift of the holy Ghost is not inseparably joyned with it First because that is injurious to the Lords free grace which is not bound to any instrument let be to a ceremony And also he speaks against experience for how many I pray you do receive imposition of hands who receive not a new grace and gift of the holy Ghost among you Miserable experience these many ages both doth testifie it and also one hath testified the same saying Our Priests do lay the word of blessing upon many but in few followeth the effect of that blessing Ex veteri Testam quaest 109. inter opera Augustini And certainly if any gift of the holy Ghost is joyned with this ceremony it should be an ability to preach the Word For that is the principal part of the office of the Minister of the Gospel But how many thousands are they among you in your Church who have received this imposition of hands and yet as unable to preach the Gospel as asses are And last of all what needed that tryal and examination so straitly commanded in the Scripture which ought to be had of them that are to be ordained if the holy Ghost were ever inseparably given with the ceremony For wherefore is this tryal and examination And wherefore is Timothy so straitly charged to lay his hands suddenly on no man but because it is only the holy Ghost who enables The which also should be well known unto his Church ere they presume to testifie the calling of God to them For if it were true that ye say that the gift of the holy Ghost were joyned with the imposition of hands inseparably then the Apostle should rather have commanded Timothy 2 Tim. 5.22 to lay his hands upon many in respect of the need that the Church stood in of all men rather then to have discharged him And as for the place of Paul which ye cite here Despise not the gift c. this serves nothing for your doctrine For if first the gift given to Timothy which the Apostle speaks of was extraordinary and so ordinarily doth not ever follow the ceremony 2. It is not ascribed here to the ceremony of imposition of hands but unto prophesie which is given thee by prophesie whereby it was revealed to the Church of the ability of this man And so if there be any prophesies that go of you in your Clergy that the holy Ghost is given to you then ye may claim unto the same but I think ye will not say that such like prophesies go of you therefore ye cannot claim to this testimony 3. Timothy is exhorted to keep that worthy thing concredited unto him through the holy Ghost 2 Tim. 1.14 It was the
and so forth And in another place he saith Rom 7.2.3 1. Cor. 7.39 and 7.10.11 To them that be joyned in matrimony I give not command but our Lord that the wife depart not from her husband and if she depart to remain unmarried or to be reconciled to her husband And let not the husband put away his wife Now this is our Religion of matrimony and plain repugnant to the doctrine of the Ministers of Scotland that will licence a man to put away his wife and marry another And they call the doctrine of Christ and his Apostles the Popes cruelty against the innocent divorced in their negative faith Master John Welsch his Reply As for your 8. and 9 points of doctrine concerning Marriage the first that it is undissoluble for no cause the other that it is a Sacrament As to the first I would scarcely have understood this point of your doctrine if your Council of Trent and others of your Clergy who write of it had not been more plain then ye And I think that there are few that knows not this point of your doctrine otherwise who can take it up by this your writing I wonder why ye are so dark in setting down your own doctrine But wherefore should I wonder for darkness may not bide to see the light Your doctrine then is this First you make many causes of separation and divorcement besides adultery Concil Trid sess 24. Can. 8. Bellarm lib. 1. de matrim cap. 14. express against the doctrine of Jesus Christ He that shal demit his wife except for fornication c. he makes her to commit adultery As 1. for the vow of continency to enter in a Monastery or Nunry 2. For heresie 3. And for peril of offending of God Next your doctrine is That suppose there be many causes of separation betwixt the man and the wife from bed and boord as we speak yet the bond of marriage contracted and perfected betwixt the faithful can no ways be broken as long as they both live together no not for adultery So that the party innocent divorced may not lawfully marry another during the life of the guilty party And if they marry they call it adultery and they will have the ground of this to be because it is a Sacrament Bellar. lib. 1. c. 12. So one error follows and leans upon another For if marriage be not a Sacrament then the bond may be loosed by their own doctrine But marriage is not a Sacrament as shal be proved hereafter therefore the bond is soluble Our doctrine is that the bond of marriage contracted and perfected between two Christians is broken by the adultery of either of the parties so that the innocent divorced may lawfully marry another As for our doctrine it is plain in the Scripture in the 19. and 5. of Matthew where there the Lord in plain termes excepts the cause of fornication saying Whosoever demits his wife except it be for fornication and marries another commits adultery So then by the contrary he that demits his wife for fornication which is adultery there and marries another commits not adultery And seeing the Apostle commands 1. Cor 7.2 That every man have his own wife and every wife her own husband and that for the avoiding of fornication and it is better to marry then to burn Therefore the first marriage being dissolved by divorcement justly according to Gods Word it is lawful to the party innocent at least to use the remedy of marriage for the avoiding of fornication Otherwise if he might not use it divorcement were not a benefit but rather a punishment and the innocent should be punished without a fault Now as to the Scriptures which ye quote Matth. 19.6 and 5.31 they have that exception of fornication expresly mentioned And as for the places of Mark 10.11.12 and Luke 16.18 and Romans 7.2.3 and 1. Cor. 7 39. they are all to be understood with that exception of fornication that our Savior expresly sets down in the former two places otherwise Scripture should be contrary to Scripture which is blasphemie to think and our Savior is the best exponer of himself And as for the 1. Corinth 7.10.11 the Apostle speaks not of that separation for adultery but of a separation for a season for other causes or variances in the which case the parties separated are to remain unmarried or to be reconciled together And because ye will not credit us nor the Son of God so expresly speaking in his Scripture yet I think ye will give some credit to your own Doctors Councils Canons and Popes whom if ye be a right Catholick ye think that they cannot err Cajetanus a Cardinal in comment Matth. 19. Ambrosius Catarinus lib. 5. annot in comment Cajetani Papists hold this doctrine with us against the Religion of your Church That adultery breaks the bond of marriage and that the innocent divorced may marry another Pope Zachary Decret causa 32. quaest 7. cap. Concubuisti And the Concil Triburiense ibidem cap. Si quis and another Canon saith That incestuous adultery breaks the bond of marriage so that the party innocent may marrie another Ibid. cap. quaedam And Pope Gregory the third suppose in a Canon he will not have adultery to break the bond of marriage Ibid. cap. Hi vero so that the party innocent may marry another contrary to the doctrine of Christ our Savior yet he permits a man to marrie another if his former wife being taken with some disease be not able to render due benevolence unto her husband Ibid. cap. Quid proposuisti So suppose this Pope will not admit that true cause which our Savior sets down of adultery yet he sets down causes himself which wants the warrant of the Word And Pope Celestin the third set forth a decree that when of married persons one falleth into heresie the party Catholick is free to marry again cap. laudabilē de convers infidelium confessed by Alphonsus a Papist lib. 1 c. 4. advers haeres So then either your Doctors Canons Councils three Popes err or else the bond of marriage may be broken and the innocent partie divorced may marrie another Your Religion of Matrimonie therefore is not only repugnant to ours and Jesus Christs but also to your own Canons Councils Doctors and Popes Let them therefore condemn your cruel ju●gement against the innocent divorced And therefore Bellarmin confesses Bellarm. de mat lib. 1. cap. 15. That in this point they have many against them not only us whom he calls hereticks but also Latins Greeks and Catholicks Master Gilbert Brown Ninthly with S. Paul Eph. 5.23 we make it a Sacrament as sundrie of the learned Protestants do as Zuinglius lib. de vera falsa rel cap. de matrimonio Melancthon in locis aeditis 1552. 1558. and chiefly young Merchiston in his 22. Proposition of his discourse upon the Revelation whose words are these Thirdly bodily marriage is by S. Paul called a symbol and a
proved before therefore there is no works of supererogation Thirdly what an absurd and blasphemous thing is this to say that God hath no commanded to us the works of greatest perfection for M. Gilbert calls these works of greater perfection and so such works wherein he is most glorified but hath left them in our own choise to do or not to do as though the Lord had not commanded us to glorifie him in the greatest perfection nor yet we were bound to do the same Fourthly if there be any such works of supererogation which are of greater perfection then the Law commands then it should follow that the vow of continency wilful poverty and monastical obedience to their superiors should be works of greater perfection and so please God more then the love of God with all the heart with all the soul with all the strength with all the mind with all the thought Matth. 2.2.37 Mark 12.29.30 For the former are your works of supererogation and the last is commanded in the Law but this is absurd therefore there is no such works Fifthly this was only proper to the Son of God to fulfil the Law of God perfectly and to do more then the Law required to wit to die for us who were his enemies this doctrine therefore of yours spoils him of this his glory Last of all if none can merit eternal life through their works at all then none can augment their glorie and reward in heaven by their works of supererogation But the first I have proved before therefore the other must follow And mark this Reader how far God hath blinded their minds for they deride and they mock at that imputation of the righteousness and merits of Christ and they pronounce them accursed that so think but yet they teach that the works of supererogation which men do may be communicat to others Be●larm lib. 2. de justific cap. 2. Consil Trid. can 10. Bellarm. lib. 2. pag. 129. As for the first place which ye quote Matth. 19. If thou wilt be perfect c. I answered to it before in my answer to the second point of your doctrine to the which I refer the Reader And so your wilful poverty hath no ground here For if this man did not perfectly fulfill the Law then was he not able to do more then the Law required of him But the first is true as I proved before in the second point of your doctrine and as the circumstances of the text testifies it for he went away sad and he put his trust in his riches and so it was not only difficile but impossible for him to enter in the Kingdom of God as our Savior saith which had not been true of him if he had fulfilled the Law And this was a special command to this man to discover his hypocrisie And all Christians are bound also out of the love of their heart to Christ to be content to forsake all that they have before we renounce him or his Word when he so requireth of us And if wilful poverty be such a work of perfection as ye think wherefore then would the Prophet have prayed Prov 30.8 Give me neither poverty nor riches but feed me with food convenient And if this be the work of greatest perfection what is the cause that your Abbots Popes Bishops and Cardinals For who should be perfect if not these will not sell all their revenues which they have wherein they surmount the Princes of the world and so augment their glory in heaven and be perfect But shal others believe and obey this doctrine of yours when the greatest Patrons of it believes and obeys it not O hypocrits who will believe you As for the next work of supererogation Virginity It is true that the virgin and unmarried who hath the gift of continency thinks upon the things that appertains to God And it is true that if any have the gift of continency it is better to be unmarried then to marry especially in the times of persecution But yet it follows not that it is a work of supererogation For to them who have the gift it is a commandment For he that hath the gift is commanded to use it and in losing it he sins And every man is bound to glorifie God to the uttermost of his power and God is most glorified by the single life of these especially in the time of pe●●ecution who have the gift And so it is not a counsel simply but also a command but to them only who have the gift and that so long only as they have the gift And the Apostle saith in that same place which ye quote here that he thinks he hath the Spirit of GOD also and so this judgement of his was the judgement of the Spirit of GOD which binds and obliges all them who have the gift But unto these who have not the gift the Scripture hath a plain command 1. Cor. 7.3.9 For the avoyding of fornication let every man have his own wife c. And if they cannot abstain let them marry c. And whereas ye say that Virginity is better then Matrimony that is not true simply but only to them who have the gift And since you say it is better wherefore make ye Matrimony a Sacrament to give remission of sins For shal not a Sacrament which gives remission of sins be better then an indifferent action which men may do or leave undone such as ye say Virginity is As for the Apostles example 1 Cor. 9. in preaching the Gospel freely without wages to them I answer Suppose it was lawful to him and all the Ministers of the Gospel to have taken wages as himself testifies and proves in that same chapter from the 4. verse to the 15. yet it was not expedient to him for the course of the Gospel among them And men are not only commanded to abstain from that which is unlawful but also from the things which are lawful if they be not expedient and so he did no more here then he should have done And therefore he saith It were better for me to die then that any should take my glory from me 1. Cor. 9.15 which cannot be said of these works which we are not bound to do And he saith vers 8. That I abuse not my authority in the Gospel but this would have been an abuse of his liberty with his people therefore he was bound to do it And yet we read that he spoiled other Churches as he saith himself and took wages from them And also the Church of Philippi did communicat unto him twise 2. Cor. 11.8 Phil. 4. As for the 10. of Luke it appears ye are scarce of proofs in quoting this place for your works of supererogation For will you say that the Samaritan was not bound by Gods law to ware more upon his neighbor in his extremity then two penny worth Hath not the Law said Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thy self And are we not
world and of the stability and perpetuity of Christs Kingdom But yet it follows not but both the Catholick Church is invisible as I said before and that the visible Churches may be obscured and darkened as it was fore-told in the time of the Antichrist As for the 18. of Matthew 17. Go tell the Church c. The Church is here taken for the Pastors and Governors of particular Churches which we grant are visible but yet it follows not but that both they and the professors may be obscured and darkened either through heresie or through extream persecution or through both together as it was fore-told in the time of the Antichrist and hath been fulfilled by your Church As for the true Church unto whom we should joyn our selves I answer We can have no salvation unless we joyn our selves first to the Catholick Church that is unto Jesus and his members by a spiritual communion without the which there is no salvation Next unto some particular visible Church by the outward communion of the Word and Sacraments c if we know it and possibly can joyn our selves unto it For if either we know it or may not as these seven thousand that bowed not their knee to Baal then I say salvation is not perilled As for your last reason The true Church may never want the true preaching of the Word and right administration of the Sacraments I answer First there is not the like necessity of the Sacraments as there is of the Word Next suppose they have it and thereby are known among themselves and some of them also to their adversaries yet it follows not that they are so openly visible that they are patent and known to all As for example There is no question but these seven thousand that did not bow their knee to Baal 1. Kings 19.18 and these hundred Prophets who was hid in the caves 1. Kings 18.13 and the Apostles when all were scattered through that persecution as Luke testifies Acts 8.1 had the exercise of the Word among them And it is not likely that the Apostles wanted some to teach suppose they were not known to all no not to their persecuters otherwise they would have been persecuted And such like we doubt not but in the time of Queen Maries persecution in England and in other parts under that Antichristian tyranny but the Lord had his own both Pastor and people among whom the truth was preached suppose neither we nor their adversaries knew them all For it is oft-times for the safety of the Church to lurk and to be hid that she may escape the fury and rage of her enemies As for Augustin Cyprian Origen Chrysostome and Jerome which ye quote here they speak either of the perpetuity and eternity of the Catholick Church or else of the largeness and clearness of the particular Churches which were in those days which is neither against the invisibility of the Catholick Church nor yet against the obscure estat and smal handful of the Church of Christ whereunto she should be brought in the days of the Antichrist as was fore-told by the Scripture and fulfilled in your Papistical Kingdom For we grant that in their dayes the Churches of Christ was frequent and glorious but yet they did not ay remain in that estat For the Churches of the East are almost overthrown by the Mahomet and the Churches of the West by the Antichrist So that partly by the one and partly by the other the Church of Christ hath been redacted to a smal handful as hath been said SECTION XXIV Where our Religion was before Luther Or a Catalogue of them who professed our Religion in the midst of Popery Master John Welsch Last of all I will set you down the names of these worthy men that in the midst of Popery spake against their errors and preached the same Religion which we preach I will but only name a few of them that was in the midst of Popery when it was come to the hight anno 1158. Gerardus and Dulcimus Navarrensis M John hath not the right dyet of these his holy Fathers Answer If it was so as you write it it was error in scribendo and that which I writ afterward might have taught you this when I said this was 400. years past did preach earnestly against the Church of Rome and called the Pope the Antichrist and taught also that the Clergy of Rome was become the whore of Babylon fore-spoken in the Revelation this was 400. years past In the year of our Lord 1160. one * This Waldus and his sect had wives and all things common and so must M. John if he follow him Answer This is falsly alledged of him and his followers but either your Canon Law errs Causa 12. qu. 1. Dilectissimis or else Pope Clement was of this mind and so if you be of his Religion you must be so for albeit ye have no wives yet other mens wives have been made common to your Popes and your Clergy in horrible adulteries Waldus a citizen of Lyons in France with a great number taught that same doctrine which we teach now condemned the Mass to be wicked the Pope to be the Antichrist and Rome to be Babylon They were persecuted by the Pope and remained long in Bohemia In the year 1112. the Pope caused an hundred persons in the Countrey of Alsatia whereof many were noble-men to be burnt in one day for the maintaining of that same doctrine that we now maintain against the Church of Rome About the year of our Lord 1230. almost all the Churches of the Grecians which with the rest of the Churches of Asia and Africk who do not acknowledge the supremacy of your Pope are mo then the Churches of Europe who submit themselves to him did all renounce the Pope and the Romish Church because of their execrable simony and idolatry in the year 1240. In the Countrey of Swevia there were many Preachers that taught freely against the Pope and affirmed he and his Clergy were hereticks and simoniacks in the year 1251. or thereabout Arnoldus de Villanova a learned Spaniard taught freely against the Church of Rome and among the rest that the Pope led the people to hell for the which cause the Pope condemned him as an heretick about the same time Gulielmus de Sancto Amore Master and chief Ruler of that University taught that all the testimonies of the Scripture spoken of the Antichrist should be applyed to the Pope and his Clergy and so taught them to be the Antichrist and the whore of Babel anno 1290. Laurence an English-man and Master of the University in Paris proved mightily that the Pope was the Antichrist and his Clergy the Synagogue of Babylon About the same time Robertus Gallus a man of noble parentage taught the Pope was an Idol and said the judgement of God would fall upon him and his Clergy Because I have no time to write the doctrine of the rest
in their own name because they were not truly sent of God And this is that saih he which is said now meaning in this place if any shal come in his own name that he is not truly sent of God neither hath Gods power So then a false Prophet is said both to come in the Name of God and in his own name In the Name of God falsly vaunting so in his own name because God sends him not but he intrudes himself without a lawfull calling Now to answer you then I say the Pope comes in the Name of Christ as his Vicare I grant he and his Clergy so vaunt but falsly For the truth is he hath come and he comes in his own name and that truly because the Lord never sent him but he hath intruded himself without God his calling therefore this cannot free him but he may be the Antichrist But how prove ye that he comes in Christ his Name and not in his own name Because say ye he calls himself the Vicar of Christ and the servant of the servants of God A pretty argument He so calls himself Ergo he is so Who will credit either you or him in your own cause Is this all ye can do for your Pope He is called so Ergo he is so Augustin saith Non attendamus ad linguam sed ad facta Tract 3 in Epist Joan. Let us not take heed to the tongue but to the deeds For if all be asked all with one mouth confess Christ let the tongue cease a little ask the life Interroga vitam and again whosoever denyes Christ factis by his deeds is Antichrist The idolaters of Ephesus might have reasoned so for their great Goddess Diana Acts 19.27 She is called a great Goddess Ergo she is so indeed And what false Prophet yet ever came but they said they came in the Name of God they called themselves and were called by these whom they deceived the servāts Prophets of the Lord Jer. 23.25 Ezec. 13.6.7 and yet will you frame this argument for them as you do for your Pope All the false Prophets said they came in the Name of God were called by these whom they deceived the servants of God therefore they came not in their own name but in the Name of God Did not the false Apostles in Ephesus say they were the Apostles of Christ yet they were found liars Rev. 2.2 And did not the Synagogue of Satan call themselves Jews and yet they blasphemed in so speaking Rev. 2.9 Doth not the Harlot with whom the Nations of the earth have committed fornication say in her heart she is a Queen Rev. 18.7 and yet she is that great Harlot Rev. 17 4. And is not her cup of gold and yet the drink therein is abomination And should not the Antichrist sit in the temple of God and yet he is the son of perdition and an adversary to God and to Jesus Christ 2. Thess 2.4 And said not the Devil of himself that all the Kingdoms of the world were given to him and he would give them to whom he would Matth. 4.8 9 and yet he was a liar So if this argument of yours will follow The Pope is called the Vicar of Christ and the servant of the servants of God therefore he came never in his own name and so he is not the Antichrist you may with as good reason conclud that the false Prophets and false Apostles came not in their own name but in the Name of God because they are called the servants of God both by themselves and also by these who were deceived by them Yea you may with as good reason conclud that the Antichrist is not the son of perdition and adversary to God 2. Thess 2.3.4 that all the Kingdoms of the world are given to the Devil and that he hath the power in his hand of giving them to whom he will because the Scripture fore-told of the one that he should have horns like the Lamb Rev. 17. and the other ascribes this right and power to himself Matth. 4.9 It is good therefore that you cannot defend your Pope from being the Antichrist unless with him also you defend all the false Prophets false Apostles false Churches the Antichrist and the Devil himself from being the thing which they are indeed But who will venter the salvation of their soul upon this so silly and foolish a reason But I pray you M. Gilbert let me ask you this Is your Pope the servant of the servants of God and the Vicar of Christ as he calls himself Dare you avow this in the presence of him who shal judge the quick and the dead that he is so as he calls himself Did ever Christ Jesus either tread upon the necks of Kings and Emperors with his feet Or was he ever lifted up and carried upon the shoulders of noble-men Or did he ever give his feet to Emperors to kiss as your Popes have done as your own Histories do witness And have ye ever read what one of his own Archbishops of Colen one of his own Religion writes to Pope Nicolaus the first five hundred years ago Speaking to him he saith Thou pretends the person of the Pope but thou playes the tyrant we feel under the habit of a Pastor a wolf the stile belyes the parent Thou vaunts thy self to be God by thy deeds while as thou art the servant of servants thou contends to be Lord of Lords according to the discipline of Christ our Savior thou art the least of all ministers of the Temple of God but thou by the ambition of ruling goes to ruine whatsoever likes thee is lawful Aventinus lib. 4. annalium This was evil in those dayes but there are worse since And what now Reader shal we say of the Pope since his own Archbishop hath so written of him You say he is the Vicar of Christ but Christ Jesus in his latter Testament did never leave him to be in his stead For in the 4. Ephes 11. He gave Apostles Prophets Evangelists Pastors and Doctors for the work of the ministery and the building of the body of Christ But that he ever left a Pope to be head of the Church in his stead to be a Monarch in this earth to reign in Rome and to be Lord over the servants of God there is not a syllable in the whole Book of God to prove it And because you say he is the servant of servants what service I pray you doth he whereby he makes it manifest that he is a servant indeed For the principal service of the Ministery of the Church stands in preaching the Word which he neither doth neither thinks that it appertains to him to do Yea what is it that appertains to any Lord King or Monarch in the earth that he ascribes not to himself and doth not also practise Yea as though that were too little what either stile or properties or works which are peculiar only to
Innocentius who were elected Popes and succeeded one after another He excommunicats the Emperor Frederick and Pope Victor He betrays the Emperor to the Souldan sends his picture to him and writes to him to cut him off if he would live in peace He caused him to fall down on the ground and to seek mercy and then tramped upon his neck the Monarch of the world repeating that sentence of the Psalm Super aspidem basiliscum c. Thou shalt walk upon the serpent and the cokatrice and thou shalt tramp down the lyon and the dragon O blasphemous mouth for this is spoken only of Christ And when the Emperor answered Not to thee but to Peter He replyed Both to me and to Peter Boniface the 8. that three-formed beast of whom the common Proverb is that he entered in like a Fox rang like a Lyon and died like a Dog He most craftily deceived his predecessor Celestin by causing one to speak to him for many nights through a whistle as though it had been the voyce of an Angel Celestin Celestin renounce for the burden is greater then thou art able to bear The which the simple man believing renounced the Popedom and so he entered in his room And having imprisoned the simple man his predecessor he was such a cruel Tyrant that he persecuted some of his Cardinals every where spoyling them both of their livings offices and their heritages He wasted and spoyled the places where they were reset so that they were compelled some of them to dwel in the woods flying his cruelty Some did venter upon the cruel hearted Pirats thinking to find greater humanity with them then with their holy Father the Pope He was also without all Religion for when the Archbishop of Genua upon Ashwednesday upon his knees bare headed doing his service in the Temple before the people this holy Father looking on him took a great many of ashes and cast in his eyes saying these words Remember man because thou art a Gibellin and with the Gibellins thou shalt return to ashes He nowrished harlots he begat bastards he affirmed that no man should judge him though he carried a number of souls with him to Hell John the 23. taught that the souls separated from the bodies did not see Gods face while after the resurrection and sent Friers to preach it He was declared by the people of Rome as Marius saith to be an heretick a Tyrant in the Church and a perturber of the publick peace of Christians Benedict the 12. he bought from her other brother Gerardus with great gifts a sister of Franciscus Petrarcha to commit villany with He nowrished many harlots of whom it is written Iste fuit verò laicis mors vipera Clero devius à vero He was a death to the people a viper to the Clergy a wanderer from the truth One part of Christendom to wit the Romans make Urbanus the sixth Pope another sort make Clement the seventh Pope whereby was such a schism that it went to their successors and continued forty years These Popes did mutually by their Bulls excommunicat one another they sent infamous libels one to another wherein they called other mutually Hereticks Schismaticks Antichrists Tyrants Thieves Traytors Sowers of evil seed and the sons of Belial and that worthily Now because the Church of Rome saith that the Popes cannot err and that their judgement is infallible and their decreets most sure therefore if this be true by their own testimonies they are hereticks schismaticks and Antichrists c. Illyricus testifies that Theodoricus Niem the Pope his most inward Scribe faithfully set down the History of the Schism of these Popes in three Books wherein he saith that he found the devilish craft of the Popes and their wickedness whereby they horribly mocked God and Religion vexed and tyrannized over the Church of Christ to be such that suppose he had read heard and seen much of their wickedness before yet having read that Book he saw their wickedness was ten fold more then ever he would have suspected And therefore he saith Truly now I assent unto the Canonists who affirm that the Pope is neither God nor man for saith he they are incarnat Devils and in malice and wickedness is worse then Satan himself Urban the sixth put five Cardinals in sacks and cast them in the sea and drowned them He condemned to death three other Cardinals commanded their heads to be cut off their bodies to be rosted in a furnace and being rosted to put them into sacks and whensoever he went from one people to another he carried them upon horses as spectacles and that they might be known to be Cardinals he placed their red hats upon the sacks Collenutius writeth this in his Neapolitan History Was ever Nero or Heliogabalus so cruel John the 24. after his predecessor was poysoned threatned the Cardinals to choose whom he would for this cause named they many but with none of them was he pleased then they prayed to name whom he would Pope He answered Give me S. Peters mantle and I will put it upon him who shal be Pope And when they had given it him he put it on himself and said I am Pope He is accused before the Council of Constance of forty weighty and grave crimes which were sufficiently proved against him And Bellarmin saith lib. 4. de Rom. Pont. cap. 14. there was 35. articles proved against him that he poysoned his predecessor Alexander that he was an Heretick a Simoniack a Liar an Hypocrit a Murtherer a Dicer and Adulterer a Sodomit and what not This also was laid to his charge that he denyed life everlasting and therefore is deposed and another set in his room In his Epitaph it is written of him Pestis avaritiae me caecum reddidit aurum Plus justo sitiens munera sacra dedi That is The pest of avarice made me blind and thirsting over much for gold I sold holy things too dear Sixtus the fourth that vile and beastly monster Wesselu-Groningensis in his Treatise of the Popes pardons writes of him that he permitted to the whole family of Cardinal Luciae at the request of Petrus Ruerius Cardinal and his brother to use Sodomitry O horrible abomination the three moneths of the year June July and August Agrippa saith That among the Bawds or maintainers of Bordels of these latter times Sixtus the 4. was famous for he built a great Bordel-house in Rome both for whoredom and Sodomitry he fed troups of harlots gaining thereby great sums of money for every harlot of Rome every week payed to the Pope a Julian penny which would amount in the year to twenty thousand Ducats But they say it is now augmented that it comes to forty thousand In his Epitaph it is written Riserat ut vivens coelestia Numina Sixtus c. That is While he was living he mocked God and dying he believed there was no God An adulterer the destruction of the Town who past Nero in
promise to them because no faith is to be kept to hereticks and therefore notwithstanding of the Emperors letters of safe-conduct they condemned them to the fire and accordingly burnt them Now H. T. himself saith in that same place What is defined by the Council of Constance is of faith with Papists therefore it must be a point of faith That no faith is to be kept with hereticks 2. Not only did the General Council of Constance decree this but the Pope hath confirmed it Now all Papists hold that what is determined by a General Council and confirmed by a Pope is of faith and obligeth all Catholicks Now that the Pope hath confirmed and allowed this is most sure for Pope Gregory the 9 whose Decree is extant in the Decretals lib. 5 tit 7. de haereticis cap. u●t out of his Pontifical seat decreeth Absolutos se noverint debito fidelitatis dominij totius obsequij quicunque lapsis manifestè in haeresin aliquo pacto quacunque firmitate vallato tenebantur ad stricti Let all know that they are loosed from their fidelity and obedience and any duty whatsoever that they are bound to any that are manifestly fallen in heresie 3. If to the Decree of the Council and confirmation of the Pope the common suffrage of their Doctors can add any weight then we have that too For when Plancius cited by D. Hornbeck p. 172. had said Dic sodes nonne in confesso est apud vos Principi haeretico aut excommunicato fidem nullam deberi u●i Pontifex jusserit Gratian. caus 15. quaest 9. decret lib. 7 cap. 5. ibi glossae Say if ye dare is it not confessed by you that no faith is to be kept by you to a heretick or excommunicat when the Pope commandeth Suertius answereth In confesso est nec inventus est hactenus magn● nominis Theologus qui non in hanc iêrit sententiam It is confessed neither is there any Divine of note who hath not held this opinion And Clarus lib. 5 sent saith that Sententiam illam frequentiori Doctorum calculo receptam This opinion is received by the common suffrage of the Doctors And Tiberius Decianus saith Omnium consensu illam obtinere de fide haereticis non servandâ That that tenet that faith is not to be kept to hereticks is received by the consent of all Hornbeck citeth many mo Popish Writers out of Plancius Elenchi pag. 7. Gerard. confess Cathol lib. 1 part 2. cap. 19. and he addeth himself that Thuanus declareth lib 63. ad ann 1577. that the Popish Doctors did cry out in their Sermons That the Magistrats were not obliged to keep faith to hereticks according to the Decree of the Council of Constance And he showeth moreover that upon this pretext the contract of marriage betwixt Charles the 5. his daughter and the Elector of Saxonies son was declared void and nul and Haumart the Emperors Legat openly said that faith was not to be kept to hereticks as testifieth Sieidan and Scultetus ad an 1527. Finally their dayly practises confirm this For Cardinal Ossatu● as Hornbeck citeth him tells us in his 87. Epistle ad D. de Villeroy that Pope Clement the 8. did press the King of France to joyn with Spain in the invasion of England and the Cardinal answered that the King was tyed by an oath to the Queen of England to which the Pope replyed that That the oath was made to an heretick but he was bound in another oath to God and the Pope and in end he alledged the saying of Franciscus Maria Duke of Urbin that indeed every one doth blame a Noble-man or great man that is no Soveraign if he keep not his covenants or fidelity and they aucount him infamous but supreme Princes may without any danger of their reputation make covenants and break them lie betray and commit other such like things Also Pope Innocent the 10. in his Bull against the Peace of Germany anno 1651. doth annul and abrogat the oathes for confirming of Peace 3. As the Popes practises is a good example to Papists so they follow their example to purpose as I shal show in some few instances In Queen Maries time in England the Suffolk-men did aid assist and advance her to the crown she swearing to them that they should enjoy the liberty of the Protestant Religion but this principle that faith should not be kept to hereticks induced her not only to break her promise but also to imprison some of them for minding her of it How many fair promises did Katherin de Medicis Queen of France and her son Charles the ninth make to the Protestants and yet this hellish principle induced them not only to break their promises but also under the greatest pretext of friendship to massacre them all at Paris anno 1572. It was this devilish principle that made Don Frederick son to the Duke d' Alva after he had taken Harlem upon composition that the citizens should give 24000. florins to redeem themselves and town from spoil to plunder the whole town contrary to promise and to hang some drown others and starve others It was this wicked principle that caused the Segnior Noucarmes when the inhabitants of Valenciennes in Hainault surrendred the city upon good conditions to keep the gates of the city shut for diverse days and most perfidiously and barbarously to hang up all the French souldiers with all the Ministers and Protestant merchants and confiscat their goods Many mo instances might be given but this may suffice Notwithstanding of all this H. T. is so shamelesly impudent as to say that the Council of Trent hath declared That to violate any least point of publick faith given to hereticks is a thing punishable by the law of God and man Sess 15.18 Ans I have consulted Petrus Suavis on Sess 15. and 18. and I can find no such declaration only there is a safe-conduct granted by the Council to Protestants to come to the Council But they fearing lest it was like the safe-conduct given to John Hus did not accept thereof The fourth evidence to prove that no oath nor obligation can bind Papists is Because let Papists swear never so solemnly whither for performance of fidelity to their Prince or of keeping covenant and bargain with their neighbor yet the Pope according to their principles may dissolve that oath and free them from the obligation thereof I might bring several proofs of this but I shal only bring one very observable After the Gun-powder treason King James appointed that all Papists should swear the oath of allegiance But hear how Paschenius in his answer to King James his monitory Epistle scoffs at it as D. Usher citeth him in his Sermon before the House of Commons Feb. 18. 1620. Vide in tantâ astutiâ quanta sit simplicitas See saith he in so great craft how great simplicity doth bewray its self When he had placed all his security in that oath he thought
that he had found such a manner of oath knit with so many circumstances that it could not with safety of conscience by any means be dissolved by any man But he could not see that if the Pope N. B. did dissolve that oath all the tyings of it whither of performing fidelity to the King or of admitting no dispensations would be dissolved together Yea I will say another thing that is more admirable You know that an unjust oath if it be evidently known or openly declared to be such bindeth no man but is voyd ipso acto That the Kings oath is injust hath been sufficiently declared by the Pastor of the Church himself Ye see therefore that the obligation thereof is vanished into smoke so that the bond which by so many wise men was thought to be of iron it become less then of straw So we may see that an oath upon the conscience of a Papist is like a collar upon an Apes neck that he will slip on for his Masters pleasure and slip off again for his own Hence we may see what trust and credit to give their pretences to loyalty and their taking the oath of allegiance For let Papists pretend to never so much moderation yet they acknowledge the Pope as supreme in all spirituals and Ecclesiasticks and profess obedience to him before all the world in things of this nature Now they all know that the Pope doth profess and publish both by doctrine and practise that he hath power to excommunicat the greatest Potentats if hereticks and to command all Catholicks in all things in ordine ad spiritualia That all Catholicks are bound to obey him under pain of damnation in opposing their Soveraign without disputing his commands And so soon as a Prince is excommunicat by the Pope for heresie he is forthwith deposed and deprived of his Princely dignity and soveraignity and his subjects are discharged from all allegiance and are accursed if they further obey him as is evident from the afore mentioned Bulls of Pius the 5. Gregory the 13. and Sixtus the 5. against Queen Elizabeth and the writings of Bellarmin Suarez Allen Sanders Parsons Cresuel and sundry others English Papists who have defended these Bulls and positions even to death In this case a Papist must either cast off his allegiance or incurr the Popes curse and consequently run on certain damnation From which we see that according to the principles of Papists the Pope hath power to dissolve all bonds covenants leagues and oaths as he shal find conducing to the advancement of the Catholik faith so that if he list no bonds humane or divine no oaths never so solemnly taken shal bind Papists for when occasion serveth the Pope can and will relieve them from all obligations of God or conscience of nature and Nations and they must submit to him without contradiction or limitation So that one cannot be a Papist but if he understand his own principles he must be a traitor Object But it may be said Although Papists maintain such principles in reference to them who persecute and extirpate Popery yet if a Prince be favorable to Popery and seek reconciliation with Rome there is no fear from them Ans Let Simancha a Popish Doctor determine this If Kings saith he or other Christian Princes be turned hereticks their subjects are presently fred from their dominion neither shal they receive their right again though they be afterward-reconciled to the Church And as a King loseth his Kingdom by heresie so his children lose their right of succession His words are Si Reges aut alij Principes Christiani facti sint haeretici protinùs subjecti vassalli ab eorum dominio liberantur nec jus hoc recuperabunt quamvis postea reconcilientur Ecclesiae Et propter haeresin non solum Rex regno privatur sed etiam ejus filij a regni successione pelluntur To omit other instances had not King Henry the 4. of France experience of this in his own person for he being a professed Protestant persecuted by the Leaguers that he might enjoy the Kingdom in peace was reconciled to the Fope and went to Mass But was he the more secure or safe for all this surely no for not long after he was stobbed in the mouth by a Jesuit After which for this and other of their treasonable practises and writings they were banished France and a pillar of remembrance of their villanies set up But he to gratifie the Pope caused demolish the pillar and called them in again telling the Parliament that the peril of it should be on him and so it was for it cost him his life being stobbed by Ravillac through the very heart And truly God ordinarly turns this policy to folly whereof many instances might be given I shal name but a few The Eastern Emperors Justinian Phocas the better to recover keep Italy did the Popes much honor and greatly furthered their supremacy But they in requital soon after by Gods just judgement setting themselves against their successors in the cause of Images made the greatest part of Italy revolt from the Emperors obedience After this Constantin the 7. and his mother Irene to get the Popes favor and to recover the Western Empire or at least to keep what they had from revolting with strong hand established worshipping of Images in the second Council of Nice But within twelve years the Pope crowned Charles the Great Emperor of the West and so they lost the Western Empire Likewise John Paleologus Emperor of Greece to procure the Popes favor against the Turks by the strong hand induced the Greek Church to reconcile with Rome and to acknowledge the Popes supremacy in the Council of Florence anno 1439. But this was so far from advantaging him that the Empire was lost within 14. years after Thus we see that God in his righteous judgement turneth such temporizing with the Pope to the ruine of them that do it The only way of safety is to stand at the swords point The eyes of the Lord run to and fro to show himself strong in the behalf of them whose heart is per●ect toward him 2. Chron. 16.9 Whereas politick complyance turns to the ruine of complyers We all know what Jeroboams policy did he to preserve his own Kingdom Set up Ido●s stretched out his hand against the Prophet made Priests of the lowest of the people and ordained high places 1. Kings 12.27.28 But what was the event The text tells us This thing became sin unto the house o● Jeroboam even to cut it off and to destroy it from the face of the earth 1. Kings 13 33 34 Thus we see what treasonable rebellious and bloody principles Papists hold Let us in the next place see if their practises have been answerable thereto SECTION III. Showing that the Pope and Synagogue of Rome have been the grand Authors of warrs and combustions and confusions in the Christian world always both before and since the Reformation