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Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
cause_n	harden_v	heart_n	pharaoh_n	2,001	5	11.6391	5	true

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A84741	Truths vindication of election, and reprobation Wherein is shewed, Christ the cause of election; sin the cause of reprobation. The iustice of God is likewise cleared from that which is layd upon him by many; (namely) that some shall one day be damned for unbelief, and yet he never gave a Christ for them to beleeve in. Most of the strongest objections that scriptures or reason can make, answered. By William Fouler minister of the gospel at Ingworth in Norffolk.	Fowler, William, minister of Ingworth, Norfolk.	1652 (1652)	Wing F1639; Thomason E1376_4; ESTC R209255	16,436	44

they would believe and repent but they therefore believe and repent because he chose them indeed Christ is the cause of salvation Sin the cause of Reprobation and for Reprobation without reference to Sin I see not how it can be admited for see what will follow if otherwise considered First They were never righteous I mean in Adam those which were reprobated for either they were or they were not if 〈◊〉 righteous how could they be called sinners by defiling themselves and then what means that in Eccles 7 29. that God hath made man upright In this place the whole Creation of mankind is to bee understood Then secondly If they were made righteous it seems they were reprobated and then afterwards made righteous and who will own this And here I desire to state some Questions 1. Quest First if any were reprobated from eternity whether or no that those did fin in Adam if reprobated surely they could not be worse after than before they were Vessells of wrath after so they were before 2. Quest Secondly I demand whether or no that all that were in Adam which were the whole Creation of men and women had power from God to stand yea or no. 3 Quest I demand whether or no that there is any Gospell any glad tydings for that man or woman that was reprobated from eternity 4 Quest I demand whether or no that such Reprobates are commanded to believe and repent either they are or they are not if they are commanded to believe then I demand what it is that they must believe sure there is no Christ for them to believe in if they are not commanded to believe and repent then I say where there is no Law there is no transgression Rom. 4. 15. 5 Quest I demand whether or no that such that are so reprobated whether there is any possibility for them to be saved if there is then Christ must needs die for them for Acts 4. 12. There is no other Name under heaven by which men can be saved if no possibility then to what end do Ministers give such exhortations it is all one as if they should say nothing to them for they cannot be better or worse perish they must without remedy because reprobated from eternity 12 Object Then it seems you hold that there is no Reprobation Answ I do not hold that there is no Reprobation but I hold that none are reprobated but for sin 13 Object But was not Esau reprobated being hated before he was born and Pharoah made on purpose to be hardened Rom. v. 9. and see the Apostle Peter in his first Epistle ch 2. v. 8. and Jude 4. and in the 11 th to the Romans it is said God gave Israel the spirit of slumber compared with John 12. ver 40. He hath blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts and the Wiseman saith Prov 16. v. 4. That the wicked are for the day of evill and is reserved to the day of destruction Iob. 21. v. 30. and that vessells of wrath are fitted to destruction Rom. 9. 22. Answ Truly these Scriptures and some others doe seemingly make for that purpose I shall by the assistance of God clear and reconcile them by other Scriptures Consider that of Jacob and Esau Rom. ● the Text doth not say he hated Esau before he was born but he saith v. 11 12. that the elder should serve the younger as you may see Gen. 25. v. 22 23. Now dear friends consider there cannot be love and hatred in God yet I grant that God did hate Esau but not before he was born but it must be considered what it is for God to hate I say what it is for to hate and harden for I will put them together Now God is said to hate and to harden when he leaveth the creature to himself but I affirm that God never leaveth the creature untill the creature first leaveth him see why God left Esau Obadiah v. 10. for thy violence against thy brother Jacob shame shall cover thee and thou shalt be cut off for ever compared with Heb. 12. 16 17. and the causes why God left Pharoah were First he did consult against the people of God Exod. 1. v. 10. Secondly he did afflict them with burdens v. 6. 11. and 13. 14. Thirdly he commanded the Midwives to kill the male children he was a murderer v. 13 16. Fourthly he wovld have killed Moses ch 2. v. 15. And thus you see that God doth not hate nor harden without a cause I demand whether or no that it was an evill in Pharaoh to have an hard heart if it were who was the cause of it surely not God but himself And truly Iacob and Esau seemes to mee to type out the two seeds of Abraham as the 9. of the Rom. will testifie which two seedes the Apostle makes forth Gal. 4. 19. to bee law and grace flesh and spirit in Isaac shall thy feed bee called all that is Regenerated in Christ is that spirituall Iacob of Gods love and that Mystery of Iniquity is working Esau so the word Esau signifieth working it was said to Rebecca that two Nations were in her wombe which two Nations were types of Flesh and Spirit God having purposed from Eternity that the younger Iacob or new spirituall Iacob should be beloved evermore old working fleshly Esau should be destroyed And for that in Pet. 1. 2. 8. It cannot be inferred from thence that they were made on purpose for destruction beeing unbeleevers they are appointed for destruction for thus reades Mr. Tindall And a stone to stumble at and a rock to offend them which stumble at the Word and beleeve not that whereon they were set And what can be said against this If any shall say that some are appointed of God to stumble at Christ his Son then I affirm those whosoever doth that which God appointeth him to do whatsoever it be shall be saved he cannot perish that doth the will of God or else it will follow some may doe the will of God and be saved and some doe his will and be damned And how this can hold I leave it to the spirituall to judge for those Scriptures in Iob 21. 30. Prov. 16. 4. Rom. 9. 22. Iude v. 4. one Answer to them all to avoid prolixity the texts will cleare it Who are reserved for wrath wicked men saith the Text so that you see they are wicked men that are made for destruction they are wicked men that are ordained of old for condemnation those saith Jude that turn the grace or God into wantonnesse now how vain would it bee for any to say that the grace of God may bee turned into wantonness before they were born Now I demand who made those wicked men vessells of wrath did God or sin surely who dareth be so bold as to say God did if themselves then where is Reprobation from eternity for men from eternity were not made And to that John 12 40. he hath blinded he hath