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B20736 The vvay of the churches of Christ in New-England, or, The vvay of churches walking in brotherly equalitie, or co-ordination, without subjection of one church to another measured and examined bythe golden reed of the sanctuary, containing a full declaration of the church-way in all particulars / by Mr. J. Cotton ... Cotton, John, 1584-1652. 1645 (1645) Wing C6471; ESTC R209858 96,219 122

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set_v forth_o the_o limit_n and_o bound_n of_o their_o authority_n answ_n the_o word_n of_o god_n have_v clear_o enough_o limit_v the_o bound_n of_o a_o ruling_n elder_n call_v and_o the_o work_n of_o his_o rule_n for_o since_o all_o ecclesiastical_a power_n be_v the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n not_o of_o the_o sword_n matth._n 16.19_o and_o the_o kingdom_n of_o christ_n be_v not_o of_o this_o world_n joh._n 18.36_o it_o be_v plain_a no_o church-governour_n may_v take_v up_o the_o power_n of_o the_o sword_n to_o wit_n civil_a jurisdiction_n without_o usurpation_n the_o power_n of_o the_o sword_n be_v princely_a lordly_a but_o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n be_v only_o stewardly_a and_o ministerial_a for_o so_o it_o be_v say_v the_o key_n of_o the_o house_n of_o david_n to_o eliakim_n isa_n 22.22_o and_o he_o be_v over_o the_o house_n ver._n 15._o which_o phrase_n of_o be_v over_o the_o house_n be_v translate_v proper_o gen._n 43.19_o steward_z of_o the_o house_n see_v then_o the_o 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offence_n from_o the_o spirit_n of_o their_o brethren_n but_o if_o it_o do_v appear_v that_o the_o dissent_n whether_o of_o one_o or_o more_o brethren_n do_v arise_v from_o such_o darkness_n and_o intricacie_n of_o the_o matter_n in_o hand_n as_o that_o the_o officer_n and_o member_n of_o the_o church_n do_v find_v themselves_o either_o unable_a to_o clear_v the_o matter_n full_o or_o at_o least_o unfit_a in_o regard_n of_o some_o prejudice_n which_o may_v be_v conceive_v against_o they_o which_o sometime_o do_v fall_v out_o though_o very_o seldom_o in_o such_o a_o case_n when_o the_o matter_n be_v weighty_a and_o the_o doubt_v great_a on_o both_o side_n than_o with_o common_a consent_n we_o call_v in_o for_o light_n from_o other_o church_n and_o entreat_v they_o to_o send_v over_o to_o we_o such_o of_o their_o elder_n or_o brethren_n as_o may_v be_v fit_a to_o judge_v in_o such_o a_o cause_n upon_o their_o come_n the_o church_n meet_v together_o in_o the_o name_n of_o christ_n the_o 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