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A66905 Suffragium Protestantium, wherein our governours are justifyed in their impositions and proceedings against dissenters meisner also and the verdict rescued from the cavils and seditious sophistry of the Protestant reconciler / by Dr. Laurence Womock ... Womock, Laurence, 1612-1685. 1683 (1683) Wing W3354; ESTC R20405 170,962 414

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we_o some_o divine_a revelation_n for_o the_o ground_n of_o it_o if_o with_o a_o humane_a faith_n that_o be_v only_o his_o opinion_n and_o that_o be_v to_o be_v correct_v by_o instruction_n or_o some_o other_o course_n of_o discipline_n that_o it_o proceed_v not_o to_o a_o obstinate_a superstition_n but_o be_v meisner_n meaning_n such_o as_o the_o reconciler_n will_v have_v it_o yet_o common_a civility_n shall_v have_v teach_v he_o better_a manner_n than_o to_o charge_v he_o that_o he_o give_v st._n paul_n the_o lie_n he_o have_v the_o honour_n of_o a_o learned_a professor_n when_o he_o be_v alive_a at_o wittengburge_n and_o for_o that_o reason_n the_o reconciler_n shall_v have_v a_o little_a veneration_n for_o his_o ash_n now_o he_o be_v dead_a especial_o because_o be_v dead_a he_o yet_o speak_v in_o his_o learned_a write_n some_o body_n sure_o have_v aught_o this_o reconciler_n a_o shame_n for_o his_o factious_a arrogance_n and_o have_v pay_v he_o home_o in_o betray_v he_o to_o such_o gross_a delusion_n and_o mistake_n what!_o meisner_n give_v st._n paul_n the_o lie_n it_o be_v impossible_a he_o that_o give_v another_o man_n the_o lie_n must_v contradict_v he_o he_o that_o contradict_v another_o man_n must_v speak_v ad_fw-la idem_fw-la in_o reference_n to_o the_o same_o thing_n the_o same_o time_n the_o same_o place_n the_o same_o person_n as_o also_o to_o the_o same_o respect_n and_o purpose_n if_o there_o be_v any_o variation_n in_o these_o circumstance_n the_o opposition_n will_v not_o amount_v to_o a_o contradiction_n or_o a_o lye_n it_o be_v possible_a both_o party_n may_v speak_v the_o perfect_a truth_n for_o example_n if_o i_o say_v the_o king_n forbid_v all_o concourse_n of_o people_n and_o horseracing_a meaning_n at_o such_o a_o time_n and_o in_o such_o a_o place_n and_o another_o man_n say_v the_o king_n do_v not_o forbid_v the_o concourse_n of_o people_n or_o
martyr_n in_o 1_o sam._n 2._o 25._o &_o much_o more_o when_o god_n call_v by_o who_o king_n reign_n and_o prince_n decree_v justice_n and_o to_o protect_v offender_n against_o his_o public_a and_o solemn_a worship_n may_v peradventure_o be_v some_o inconsiderate_a pity_n but_o mercy_n it_o can_v be_v in_o his_o answer_n to_o another_o argument_n as_o he_o call_v it_o i_o must_v observe_v many_o thing_n first_o the_o distinction_n between_o natural_a and_o christian_a liberty_n he_o find_v in_o the_o verdict_n pag._n 125._o and_o i_o be_o apt_a to_o believe_v he_o take_v it_o upon_o trust_n from_o thence_o because_o i_o have_v not_o observe_v he_o so_o skilful_a or_o ingenious_a as_o to_o use_v distinction_n when_o there_o be_v just_a cause_n for_o it_o and_o because_o he_o take_v it_o up_o here_o impertinent_o for_o no_o reason_n in_o the_o world_n but_o to_o cavil_v at_o it_o and_o that_o he_o do_v twice_o for_o fail_v second_o whereas_o he_o say_v the_o dissenter_n 160._o pag._n 160._o will_v put_v no_o restraint_n upon_o other_o as_o to_o the_o ceremony_n in_o contest_v but_o only_o crave_v a_o freedom_n or_o indulgence_n to_o themselves_o herein_o i_o believe_v as_o we_o say_v he_o reckon_v without_o his_o host_n no_o man_n that_o have_v read_v their_o book_n or_o observe_v their_o practice_n or_o see_v their_o public_a ordinance_n can_v believe_v it_o and_o i_o doubt_v whether_o upon_o second_o thought_n the_o reconciler_n will_v believe_v it_o himself_o in_o their_o ordinance_n of_o january_n 1644_o the_o presbyterian_a lord_n and_o commons_o do_v declare_v that_o they_o judge_v it_o necessary_a that_o the_o book_n of_o common-prayer_n be_v abolish_v and_o the_o directory_n for_o the_o public_a worship_n of_o god_n establish_v and_o observe_v in_o all_o the_o church_n within_o this_o kingdom_n and_o august_n the_o 29._o 1648._o they_o ordain_v that_o all_o parish_n and_o place_n whatsoever_o within_o the_o kingdom_n of_o england_n and_o dominion_n of_o wales_n as_o well_o privilege_v place_n and_o exempt_a jurisdiction_n as_o other_o be_v bring_v under_o the_o government_n of_o congregational_a classical_a provincial_a and_o national_a assembly_n provide_v that_o the_o chapel_n or_o place_n in_o the_o house_n of_o the_o king_n and_o his_o child_n and_o the_o chapel_n or_o place_n in_o the_o house_n of_o the_o peer_n of_o this_o realm_n shall_v continue_v free_a for_o the_o exercise_n of_o divine_a duty_n according_a to_o the_o directory_n and_o not_o otherwise_o three_o his_o answer_n be_v in_o effect_n no_o answer_n at_o all_o for_o he_o say_v first_o the_o argument_n itself_o plead_v strong_o upon_o the_o principle_n acknowledge_v in_o it_o against_o the_o imposition_n of_o superior_n and_o even_o against_o all_o vow_n make_v by_o we_o concern_v any_o thing_n indifferent_a for_o both_o these_o thing_n do_v put_v a_o necessary_a abstention_n &_o restraint_n upon_o we_o as_o to_o the_o use_n of_o these_o thing_n if_o therefore_o say_v he_o by_o so_o do_v they_o betray_v our_o liberty_n dissenter_n ought_v not_o to_o yield_v to_o they_o nor_o shall_v good_a christian_n by_o a_o vow_n restrain_v themselves_o from_o the_o free_a use_n of_o thing_n indifferent_a second_o he_o say_v the_o argument_n be_v evident_o contradictor_n both_o to_o the_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o st._n paul_n in_o answer_n to_o which_o i_o must_v observe_v that_o he_o still_o abuse_v his_o reader-by_a his_o sophistry_n how_o else_o can_v he_o bring_v in_o personal_a vow_n etc._n etc._n into_o his_o answer_n among_o orthodox-divines_a who_o have_v ever_o question_v whether_o a_o man_n that_o be_v compos_fw-la mentis_fw-la may_v not_o restrain_v his_o own_o liberty_n and_o that_o as_o well_o by_o a_o solemn_a vow_n as_o a_o prudent_a resolution_n or_o who_o ever_o deny_v the_o power_n of_o governor_n 131._o the_o not_o use_v of_o our_o christian_a liberty_n render_v we_o not_o the_o worse_o and_o therefore_o we_o may_v lawful_o not_o use_v it_o when_o by_o superior_n we_o be_v restrain_v from_o the_o use_n thereof_o prot._n recon_fw-mi p._n 131._o to_o restrain_v the_o liberty_n of_o such_o as_o be_v under_o their_o jurisdiction_n though_o he_o be_v confident_a enough_o to_o give_v the_o lie_n to_o any_o thing_n yet_o i_o hope_v he_o will_v not_o charge_v the_o rechabite_v with_o folly_n nor_o their_o father_n with_o superstition_n and_o if_o the_o son_n do_v add_v their_o own_o vow_n to_o their_o father_n command_n i_o know_v no_o harm_n in_o it_o i_o be_o sure_a god_n do_v high_o approve_v of_o their_o strict_a obedience_n to_o the_o imposition_n of_o thing_n indifferent_a but_o to_o return_v and_o show_v that_o the_o reconciler_n answer_n be_v trifle_a and_o impertinent_a not_o contradict_v meisner_n argument_n this_o i_o prove_v by_o argumentum_fw-la ad_fw-la hominem_fw-la in_o this_o manner_n that_o argument_n which_o plead_v strong_o against_o the_o imposition_n of_o superior_n that_o argument_n the_o 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doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o st._n paul_n and_o consequent_o both_o the_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o st._n paul_n be_v for_o the_o imposition_n of_o superior_n which_o be_v the_o thing_n we_o contend_v for_o here_o he_o inculcate_n again_o the_o necessity_n of_o abstain_v from_o some_o meat_n and_o the_o observe_v some_o day_n for_o fear_v of_o offend_v the_o weak_a brethren_n indeed_o the_o apostle_n expression_n run_v very_o high_a of_o not_o eat_v flesh_n which_o be_v one_o of_o 13._o rom._n 14._o 21._o 1_o cor._n 8._o 13._o his_o two_o instance_n but_o do_v he_o say_v the_o same_o thing_n of_o the_o time_n of_o god_n worship_n do_v he_o say_v it_o be_v good_a no●_n to_o regard_n a_o day_n to_o the_o lord_n whereby_o my_o brother_n stumble_v or_o be_v offend_v or_o make_v weak_a wherefore_o if_o a_o day_n make_v my_o brother_n to_o offend_v i_o will_v never_o regard_v a_o day_n never_o observe_v the_o lord_n day_n never_o perform_v any_o solemn_a worship_n or_o service_n to_o almighty_a god_n while_o the_o world_n stand_v lest_o i_o make_v my_o brother_n to_o offend_v to_o take_v up_o such_o a_o resolution_n savour●●_n of_o too_o much_o profaneness_n to_o be_v justify_v and_o this_o i_o hope_v will_v convince_v the_o reconciler_n that_o in_o the_o parallel_n instance_n of_o meat_n the_o apostle_n be_v a_o little_a hyperbolical_a as_o be_v former_o observe_v after_o a_o great_a deal_n of_o shuffle_n and_o trifle_v for_o two_o or_o three_o page_n together_o to_o no_o purpose_n but_o to_o make_v a_o noise_n and_o show_v his_o confidence_n he_o own_v the_o 163._o pag._n 163._o truth_n at_o last_o that_o the_o apostle_n come_v to_o a_o point_n and_o positive_o declare_v against_o circumcision_n when_o the_o false-teacher_n will_v have_v obtrude_v it_o as_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n and_o whatsoever_o his_o practice_n be_v out_o of_o condescension_n and_o special_a dispensation_n while_n the_o church_n be_v any_o where_n in_o plant_v yet_o its_o evident_a 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timothy_n principio_fw-la