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A94862 Triple episcopacie or, a three-fold order of bishops : one of God, another of men, and another of the divell; the two later must be pluckt up, the former only must continue, and the reasons why. With a declaration of certaine other weighty points concerning the discipline and government of the church 1641 (1641) Wing T2287; Thomason E178_1; ESTC R212674 11,795 16

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the true Religion it is a question whether there may be such an assembly without the consent or commandement of the Prince Whether the Ministers alone may meet as often as they will Last of all whether the Nobles and other godly men and Elders which are yeerly chosen with us out of the people nobility together may lawfully or expediently come without the commandement of the King to such assemblies Which assembly of the nobles and people seemeth to some altogether needlesse under a godly Prince either because it hath not long since beene received by a mere custome without any Law and that under a Prince who then resisted the Religion whereby such assemblies might have the greater authority or else because it may seeme dangerous if so many nobles assemble so often without the consent of the King they may sometimes consult of something else besides Religion Others thinke that this assembly is in no case to be refused but rather that it is very needfull that the Nobles and other Religious men be present as helpers to their Ministers in the assembly bearing witnesse of their life and the peoples behaviour otherwise it wil after come to passe that if an impious Prince raigne afterward that neither Ministers may safely assemble neither can the determination be put in execution without the consent helpe and aide of the nobles To the second Question Councels are necessary in the Church for many causes both to the retaining of agreement and also to the seeking of remedies by common advice for the dangers which fall out And last of all to take order for those that rest not in the judgement of particular seigniories if they thinke they have any injurie done them And these Councels are either of a whole nation or of some one Region or Province or Diocesse as they have begun to speake after the description of the Provinces of Rome divided into many Seigniories It is necessary that the Councels of the Provinces be divided for many causes and except there be other urgent causes they would be appointed rather every halse yeere then quarterly lest in discoursing of matters they spend the time in vaine And it will be best for the avoiding of Ambition that the Councell be not alwayes assembled in the same place of every Province but as soone as one halfe yeeres Synode is discussed it may be determined by common consent where shall be the place of the next following It will be very well that two of every seigniory of the Province chosen by common voyces and sent with some commission be present at these Councels one a Pastor and the other an Elder or a Deacon Neither would we have any strife about sitting who should sit first or last but every one to sit as it shall fall out without any contention and the judgement to be given as any one shall sit Now hee that shall governe the whole action who was chosen for this one thing by common consent of voyce the chiefe Pastor of the place being in the beginning President which office shall end when the Councell shall be ended There are no matters in question to be propounded to these Councels to take knowledge of but such as are more spirituall and belong to that Province where they are to be decided without appeale by the Word of God and the rules there set downe without any brabling or disturbance of the company Yet if any great private controversie shall fall out in the Provinciall Synode where some may think that he hath cause to complaine of injurie done unto him hee may put up his complaint to be decided in a generall Councell when it shall be thought good to assemble it Furthermore it is chiefely required that if all the Lawes of the Church be established of the Kings Christian Majestie It followeth that the Councels are to be assembled by his commandement and direction and not otherwise Neither yet is there a new commission every time to be sought for of the King for that purpose seeing his Majestie hath once established a Law touching the set times of ordinary Synods But yet if there arise just cause of suspition of handling in these meetings other matters besides meere Ecclesiasticall it shall be safe for the Kings Majesty to send one of his Subjects whom he will to grace by his presence the meeting of the Synodes where yet he is not to be as a Judge except some thing fall out where it is necessary that the authority of the civill Magistrate be put betweene A generall Councell of the Land is not to be assembled but upon great causes which seeing they agree not with set times it followeth that they are not to be standing neither but as often as something shall seeme to fall out of so great weight either in doctrine or in government of the Church as cannot well be decided but in a generall meeting that Province is to be careful to put other Provinces in mind concerning that matter in these halfe yeeres Synodes that with the consent of all or the greater part they goe unto the Kings Majesty who as being a Christian Prince is to desire nothing more than the peace of the Churches ought without any stay or doubting at the suit of the Churches to appoint a place and time for a generall meeting as the need of the Churches shall require And the same order may seem to be kept in the general councels which is in the Provinciall whether before the Kings Majesty himselfe as in some generall Councels the Emperours of Rome have been present or before the honourable Lords of the Kings Majesty And last of all whatsoever shall be allowed by the common consent of the Synode shall be confirmed by the Kings Maiesties expresse authority after the example of the godly Emperours FINIS