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A92033 Lux veritatis or, Christian judicial astrology vindicated, and demonology confuted: in answer to Nath. Homes, D.D. Wherein his allegations of the learned, reasons, divine proofs, and arguments, are particularly examined and convinced. With the legality of the art maintained and warranted by Scripture. Whereunto is annexed, a short discourse of that great eclipse of the sun, March 29. 1652. By William Ramesey Gent. student in astrologie and physick. Ramesey, William, 1627-1675 or 6. 1651 (1651) Wing R209; Thomason E1341_1; Thomason E1351_3; Thomason E1341_1*; Thomason E1351_4; ESTC R209141 67,612 156

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