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A39304 The foundation of tythes shaken and the four principal posts (of divine institution, primitive practice, voluntary donations, & positive laws) on which the nameless author of the book, called, The right of tythes asserted and proved, hath set his pretended right to tythes, removed, in a reply to the said book / by Thomas Ellwood. Ellwood, Thomas, 1639-1713. 1678 (1678) Wing E622; ESTC R20505 321,752 532

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11_o 13_o and_o 15._o chap._n and_o his_o five_o book_n 4._o chap._n may_v there_o find_v relation_n of_o miracle_n as_o palpable_o popish_a as_o any_o in_o the_o roman_a legend_n and_o if_o it_o shall_v be_v grant_v that_o miracle_n be_v then_o wrought_v to_o convince_v that_o people_n it_o must_v be_v suppose_v that_o those_o miracle_n if_o wrought_v by_o the_o power_n of_o god_n be_v wrought_v to_o convince_v they_o of_o the_o true_a faith_n and_o worship_n of_o god_n and_o to_o establish_v they_o in_o it_o but_o the_o miracle_n mention_v in_o those_o chapter●_n of_o bede_n history_n to_o which_o i_o have_v above_o refer_v tend_v not_o to_o the_o set_n up_o of_o the_o true_a worship_n of_o god_n but_o a_o false_a worship_n even_o the_o worship_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n in_o the_o veneration_n and_o adoration_n of_o relic_n of_o popish_a saint_n of_o the_o wood_n of_o the_o cross_n of_o holy_a water_n and_o of_o consecrate_a oil_n which_o all_o man_n know_v to_o be_v a_o part_n and_o a_o corrupt_a part_n too_o of_o the_o present_a romish_a religion_n so_o that_o in_o these_o thing_n the_o saxon_a church_n then_o appear_v to_o have_v be_v in_o the_o same_o condition_n in_o which_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n both_o then_o be_v and_o now_o be_v he_o say_v they_o may_v be_v credulous_a and_o apt_a to_o be_v impose_v upon_o but_o that_o be_v their_o infirmity_n and_o amount_v but_o to_o superstition_n not_o to_o popery_n ibid._n he_o forget_v his_o brother_n definition_n of_o popery_n friendly_o confer_v pag._n 149._o that_o it_o be_v such_o doctrine_n and_o superstitious_a practice_n which_o by_o the_o corruption_n of_o time_n have_v prevail_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n contrary_a to_o the_o true_a ancient_a catholic_n and_o apostolic_a church_n so_o that_o if_o those_o thing_n record_v by_o bede_n to_o be_v wrought_v and_o believe_v by_o and_o among_o the_o saxon_n be_v such_o superstitious_a practice_n as_o by_o the_o corruption_n of_o time_n have_v prevail_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n contrary_a to_o the_o true_a ancient_a catholic_n and_o apostolic_a church_n than_o they_o be_v popery_n and_o they_o by_o and_o among_o who_o they_o be_v so_o wrought_v believe_v and_o receive_v be_v papist_n but_o no_o protestant_a i_o hope_v will_v deny_v the_o instance_n above_o give_v to_o be_v superstitious_a practice_n to_o have_v prevail_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rom●_n through_o the_o corruption_n of_o time_n and_o to_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o true_a ancient_a catholic_n and_o apostolic_a church_n beside_o if_o as_o he_o say_v they_o may_v be_v credulous_a and_o apt_a to_o be_v impose_v upon_o and_o so_o can_v be_v excuse_v as_o he_o will_v have_v they_o upon_o the_o score_n of_o their_o infirmity_n yet_o who_o i_o pray_v be_v they_o that_o take_v the_o advantage_n of_o their_o credulity_n and_o do_v impose_v upon_o they_o be_v they_o not_o their_o priest_n their_o clergy_n and_o what_o be_v they_o mean_v while_n if_o the_o people_n wer●_n credulous_a and_o easy_a to_o be_v beguile_v and_o impose_v upon_o the_o priest_n be_v not_o less_o crafty_a and_o ready_a to_o impos●_n upon_o they_o and_o beguile_v they_o but_o be_v not_o this_o the_o same_o priesthood_n to_o which_o tithe_n be_v afterwards_o give_v who_o thus_o impose_v upon_o the_o credulous_a people_n and_o delude_v they_o with_o lie_v wonder_n as_o for_o intercession_n of_o saint_n he_o say_v if_o i_o mean_v that_o the_o saxon_n pray_v to_o the_o saint_n as_o their_o intercessor_n with_o god_n i_o do_v egregious_o wrong_v they_o pag._n 132._o about_o what_o time_n the_o opinion_n of_o the_o intercession_n of_o saint_n be_v receive_v in_o the_o church_n and_o how_o understand_v perkins_n in_o his_o problem_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n pag._n 87._o etc._n etc._n show_v first_o he_o say_v it_o be_v altogether_o unknown_a in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n for_o the_o space_n of_o two_o hundred_o year_n after_o christ._n after_o which_o time_n origen_n he_o say_v and_o other_o father_n dispute_v concern_v the_o saint_n intercession_n for_o we_o but_o very_o diverse_o and_o doubtful_o until_o the_o year_n 400._o from_o that_o time_n it_o seem_v to_o have_v be_v a_o receive_a opinion_n for_o the_o ancient_n he_o say_v pag._n 89._o teach_v that_o the_o saint_n do_v intercede_v not_o only_o open_o by_o pray_v but_o interpretative_o also_o by_o merit_v or_o deserve_v of_o which_o he_o there_o give_v many_o instance_n and_o conclude_v that_o among_o the_o ancients_n the_o saint_n be_v make_v immediate_a intercessor_n to_o god_n for_o we_o from_o this_o belief_n of_o the_o saint_n intercession_n spring_v the_o custom_n of_o invocation_n or_o pray_v to_o saint_n which_o perkins_n show_v be_v not_o in_o the_o church_n for_o three_o hundred_o and_o fi●ty_a year_n after_o christ_n but_o begin_v to_o creep_v in_o about_o the_o year_n 380._o and_o after_o the_o year_n 400._o he_o say_v the_o ancient_n sin●ed_v and_o be_v guilty_a of_o sacrilege_n in_o pray_v to_o the_o saint_n of_o which_o he_o give_v many_o instance_n some_o whereof_o show_n that_o the_o saint_n be_v pray_v to_o as_o intercessor_n to_o god_n yea_o as_o mediator_n between_o god_n and_o man._n for_o paulinus_n in_o natali_fw-la 3._o in_o faelicem_fw-la say_v exora_n ut_fw-la precibus_fw-la plenis_fw-la meritisque_fw-la redonet_fw-la debita_fw-la nostra_fw-la tuis_fw-la i_o e._n pray_v o_fw-la faelix_fw-la that_o he_o will_v forgive_v we_o our_o sin_n for_o the_o sake_n of_o thy_o full_a prayer_n and_o merit_n and_o fortunatus_n in_o vita_fw-la martini_n lib._n 2._o thus_o entreat_v mart●n_n inter_fw-la i_o et_fw-la dominum_fw-la mediator_n ad_fw-la esto_fw-la benign_a i_o e._n be_v thou_o o_o martin_n afavourabl●_n mediator_n between_o the_o lord_n and_o i_o no●_n be_v this_o opinion_n of_o the_o
neither_o do_v it_o seem_v that_o he_o have_v any_o such_o recant_v spirit_n again_o neither_o be_v it_o find_v that_o he_o be_v burn_v wherefore_o say_n fox_n it_o remain_v most_o like_a to_o be_v true_a that_o he_o be_v commit_v to_o some_o strait_a prison_n according_a as_o the_o archbishop_n in_o his_o examination_n before_o do_v threaten_v he_o there_o as_o thorp_n confess_v himself_o be_v so_o strait_o keep_v that_o either_o he_o be_v secret_o make_v away_o or_o else_o there_o he_o die_v by_o sickness_n as_o he_o instance_n in_o john_n ashton_n another_o of_o wickliff_n follower_n who_o be_v so_o serve_v martyrol_n pag._n 500_o now_o though_o the_o manner_n of_o these_o man_n death_n can_v be_v certain_o know_v yet_o certain_a it_o be_v that_o they_o be_v devou●_n and_o godly_a man_n and_o zealous_a against_o the_o romish_a error_n so_o far_o as_o they_o discern_v they_o and_o if_o we_o may_v take_v his_o character_n of_o they_o who_o write_v their_o sto●y_n he_o call_v swinderby_n a_o worthy_a priest_n and_o true_a servant_n of_o christ_n martyrol_n pag._n 437._o of_o brute_n he_o say_v that_o in_o the_o tractation_n of_o his_o discourse_n may_v appear_v the_o mighty_a operation_n of_o god_n spirit_n in_o he_o his_o ripe_a knowledge_n modest_a simplicity_n his_o valiant_a constancy_n his_o learned_a tractation_n and_o manifold_a conflict_n sustain_v against_o god_n enemy_n pag._n 438._o thorp_n he_o call_v a_o good_a man_n and_o blessed_a servant_n of_o god_n pag._n 500_o a_o warrior_n valiant_a under_o the_o triumphant_a banner_n of_o christ_n pag._n 485._o and_o tell_v his_o reader_n he_o shall_v behold_v in_o this_o man_n the_o marvellous_a force_n and_o strength_n of_o the_o lord_n may_v spirit_n and_o grace_n work_v and_o fight_v in_o his_o soldier_n and_o also_o speak_v in_o their_o mouth_n according_a to_o the_o word_n of_o his_o promise_n luk._n 21._o ibid._n in_o all_o which_o either_o fox_n be_v much_o mistake_v in_o the_o man_n or_o this_o priest_n in_o his_o right_n of_o tithe_n have_v most_o exceed_o injure_v they_o for_o he_o render_v they_o apostate_n call_v they_o renegado_n scoff_n at_o their_o knowledge_n and_o say_v cranmer_n hooper_n ridley_n etc._n etc._n be_v much_o disgrace_v by_o the_o parallel_n pag._n 139_o 140._o sure_o if_o the_o man_n the_o time_n wherein_o they_o live_v consider_v be_v guilty_a of_o some_o weakness_n or_o infirmity_n it_o have_v much_o better_o become_v this_o pretend_a protestant_n to_o have_v mention_v they_o at_o least_o with_o common_a civility_n have_v it_o be_v but_o for_o the_o cause_n sak●_n in_o which_o they_o be_v engage_v then_o thus_o to_o fall_v on_o they_o in_o revile_v language_n and_o defame_v they_o for_o apostate_n and_o renegado_n in_o which_o he_o seem_v rather_o to_o exceed_v then_o imitate_v the_o foolish_a outrage_n of_o the_o papist_n against_o wickliff_n for_o they_o burn_v the_o bone_n of_o wickliff_n only_o forty_o one_o year_n after_o he_o be_v dead_a but_o this_o priest_n seek_v to_o distain_v and_o blemish_v the_o name_n the_o memory_n and_o the_o testimony_n of_o these_o four_o man_n together_o which_o have_v flourish_v well_o nigh_o three_o hundred_o year_n and_o so_o angry_a be_v he_o at_o they_o that_o i_o speed_v the_o worse_a at_o his_o hand_n for_o have_v mention_v they_o for_o forget_v in_o his_o heat_n that_o he_o say_v at_o the_o beginning_n he_o will_v not_o meddle_v with_o scurrility_n he_o here_o fall_v downright_a upon_o i_o and_o say_v i_o be_o a_o manifest_a liar_n in_o give_v such_o renegado_n the_o name_n of_o martyr_n which_o language_n as_o it_o credit_n not_o he_o that_o give_v it_o without_o any_o provocation_n that_o i_o know_v of_o from_o i_o so_o it_o hurt_v not_o i_o to_o who_o it_o be_v give_v nor_o will_v i_o have_v take_v notice_n of_o it_o at_o all_o but_o to_o manifest_v the_o temper_n of_o my_o adversary_n and_o the_o liberty_n of_o nameless_a writer_n but_o he_o father_n one_o part_n of_o his_o calumny_n upon_o fox_n and_o say_v most_o of_o these_o opposer_n of_o tithe_n recant_v open_o and_o prove_v apostate_n as_o mr._n fox_n himself_o confess_v but_o in_o this_o he_o do_v fox_n wrong_v for_o first_o he_o no_z where_o call_v they_o apostate_n nor_o be_v it_o likely_a he_o think_v they_o so_o by_o the_o character_n he_o give_v of_o they_o neither_o second_o do_v he_o confess_v that_o most_o of_o they_o recant_v open_o for_o of_o wickliff_n and_o thorp_n he_o mention_n no_o such_o thing_n at_o all_o and_o what_o he_o speak_v of_o swinderby_n it_o wa●_n not_o so_o proper_o if_o well_o consider_v a_o recantation_n of_o what_o he_o hold_v as_o a_o denial_n of_o article_n lay_v to_o his_o charge_n in_o such_o term_n as_o he_o do_v not_o hold_v they_o which_o afterward_o himself_o explain_v and_o maintain_v as_o for_o brute_n fox_n do_v not_o tax_v he_o with_o retract_v any_o thing_n at_o all_o but_o only_o show_v that_o he_o submit_v himself_o principal_o to_o the_o gospel_n of_o jesus_n christ_n and_o to_o the_o determination_n of_o holy_a kirk_n and_o to_o the_o general_a council●_n of_o holy_a kirk_n and_o to_o the_o sentence_n and_o determination_n of_o the_o four_o ●_z of_o holy_a writ_n that_o be_v augustine_n ambrose_n icrom_n and_o gregory_n and_o to_o the_o correction_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o hereford_n pag._n 461._o and_o sure_o the_o character_n which_o fox_n give_v of_o brute_n and_o of_o the_o mighty_a operation_n of_o god_n spirit_n in_o he_o do_v not_o imply_v he_o think_v brute_n either_o a_o apostate_n or_o renegado_n but_o suppose_v it_o have_v be_v so_o as_o he_o opprobrious_o object_n that_o most_o of_o these_o opposer_n of_o tithe_n have_v recant_v their_o opinion_n yet_o if_o afterward_o they_o return_v and_o stand_v to_o their_o testimony_n must_v it_o not_o be_v receive_v if_o they_o have_v fall_v by_o infirmity_n may_v they_o not_o rise_v again_o by_o repentance_n and_o must_v their_o after_o testimony_n be_v reject_v because_o of_o a_o former_a slip_n i_o can_v nam●_n he_o the_o man_n if_o i_o judge_v it_o necessary_a who_o for_o his_o testimony_n against_o th●_n church_n of_o rome_n endure_v divers_a year_n imprisonment_n sustain_v many_o a_o sharp_a conflict_n and_o bear_v the_o brunt_n of_o many_o a_o hard●attel_n ●attel_z against_o the_o popish_a bishop_n yea_o stand_v his_o ground_n against_o they_o even_o to_o sentence_n &_o degradation_n and_o after_o all_o this_o be_v draw_v either_o by_o threat_n or_o flattery_n to_o sign_v a_o recantation_n to_o the_o great_a dishonour_n of_o his_o cause_n and_o wound_v of_o his_o conscience_n yet_o this_o man_n short_o after_o retract_v that_o recantation_n resume_v his_o testimony_n against_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o die_v a_o famous_a martyr_n do_v himself_o a_o exemplary_a piece_n of_o justice_n upon_o that_o hand_n with_o which_o he_o have_v subscribe_v the_o recantation_n but_o notwithstanding_o this_o man_n slip_n his_o testimony_n for_o god_n against_o the_o idolatry_n and_o corruption_n of_o the_o roma●_n church_n be_v just_o have_v in_o very_o great_a esteem_n but_o to_o proceed_v the_o priest_n say_v right_o of_o tithe_n pag_n 139._o as_o for_o the_o knowledge_n of_o t._n be_v martyr_n we_o may_v guess_v at_o the_o size_n thereof_o by_o that_o senseless_a say_n of_o one_o of_o they_o viz._n that_o one_o of_o the_o ancient_a doctor_n s._n jerom_n he_o think_v do_v affirm_v that_o those_o priest_n who_o take_v tithe_n deny_v christ_n to_o be_v come_v in_o the_o flesh._n this_o which_o be_v speak_v by_o william_n thorp_n who_o fox_n call_v a_o good_a man_n and_o bless_a servant_n of_o god_n yea_o a_o valiant_a warrior_n under_o the_o triumphant_a banner_n of_o christ_n the_o priest_n call_v a_o senseless_a say_n a_o idle_a thing_n and_o in_o derision_n scoss_o say_v we_o may_v guess_v at_o the_o size_n of_o their_o knowledge_n by_o this_o but_o do_v this_o become_v he_o be_v t●i●_n at_o all_o like_a a_o protestant_n what_o can_v harpsfield_n harding_n or_o any_o other_o of_o the_o popish_a champion_n have_v say_v more_o contemptuous_o but_o he_o not_o only_o deny_v this_o sentence_n to_o be_v hierom_n but_o that_o any_o ancient_a doctor_n do_v ever_o say_v so_o idle_a ●_o thing_n in_o which_o he_o deal_v worse_a with_o thorp_n then_o do_v arundel_n the_o popish_a archbishop_n to_o who_o thorp_n urge_v it_o and_o under_o who_o he_o suffer_v for_o the_o archbishop_n do_v not_o deny_v his_o quotation_n but_o blame_v he_o for_o pick_v such_o sharp_a sentence_n out_o of_o the_o scripture_n and_o out_o of_o the_o doctor_n against_o the_o priest_n which_o be_v a_o implicit_a acknowledgement_n of_o the_o truth_n of_o his_o allegation_n thus_o reader_n thou_o see_v the_o contempt_n these_o priest_n have_v of_o any_o that_o speak_v against_o their_o corrupt_a
o●_n tithe_n the_o parson_n say_v shepherd_n in_o his_o grand_a abridgement_n 〈◊〉_d tithe_n pag._n 101._o have_v a_o good_a property_n in_o the_o tithe_n where_o they_o be_v set_v out_o by_o the_o ●_z not_o where_o they_o be_v set_v out_o by_o a_o stranger_n do_v not_o this_o prove_v that_o the_o parson_n title_n lie_v in_o the_o gift_n of_o the_o owner_n if_o the_o owner_n set_v out_o the_o tithe_n he_o thereby_o disseize_v himself_o thereof_o and_o give_v the_o parson_n a_o property_n in_o the_o tithe_n so_o by_o he_o set_v out_o but_o if_o the_o tithe_n be_v not_o set_v out_o the_o parson_n have_v no_o property_n therein_o nay_o if_o they_o be_v set_v out_o and_o not_o by_o the_o owner_n but_o by_o a_o stranger_n the_o parson_n will_v be_v to_o seek_v of_o a_o property_n notwithstanding_o such_o set_n out_o by_o all_o which_o it_o appear_v that_o the_o parson_n have_v no_o property_n in_o the_o ten_o patt_n of_o another_o crop_n until_o the_o owner_n set_v out_o that_o ten_o part_n and_o thereby_o give_v the_o parson_n a_o property_n in_o it_o nay_o further_o say_v shepherd_n ibid._n tithe_n be_v not_o due_a nor_o be_v it_o tithe_n within_o the_o statute_n of_o 2._o edw._n 6._o until_o severance_n be_v make_v of_o the_o nine_o part_n from_o the_o ten_o part_n so_o that_o to_o make_v it_o tithe_n within_o the_o statute_n it_o must_v be_v sever_v and_o to_o make_v the_o priest_n a_o property_n in_o it_o it_o must_v be_v set_v out_o as_o tithe_n by_o the_o owner_n judge_v now_o reader_n whether_o the_o priest_n have_v any_o other_o property_n in_o tithe_n then_o what_o the_o present_a owner_n give_v he_o §14_n here_o again_o pag._n 193._o the_o priest_n be_v gravel_v with_o a_o argument_n which_o he_o know_v not_o how_o to_o answer_v and_o therefore_o have_v first_o stick_v a_o ugly_a 〈◊〉_d or_o two_o upon_o it_o to_o scare_v common_a reader_n from_o observe_v it_o he_o make_v a_o show_n as_o if_o he_o will_v repeat_v it_o and_o set_v down_o something_o that_o look_v a_o little_a like_o it_o and_o then_o without_o more_o ado_n cry_v i_o have_v sufficient_o 〈◊〉_d it_o before_o §30_n and_o so_o take_v his_o leave_n of_o it●_n he_o set_v it_o down_o thus_o that_o it_o be_v ridiculous_a and_o unreasonable_a for_o any_o to_o pretend_v a_o power_n to_o dispose_v of_o th●s●_n profit_v or_o any_o part_n of_o they_o which_o arise_v from_o the_o labour_n stock_n and_o care_n of_o another_o especial_o after_o their_o own_o decease_n for_o which_o he_o quote_v pag._n 338._o of_o my_o book_n this_o he_o call_v a_o old_a silly_a and_o blasphemous_a argument_n and_o so_o let_v it_o fall_v but_o questionless_a the_o man_n be_v conscious_a to_o himself_o that_o his_o claim_n to_o tithe_n be_v ridiculous_a and_o unreasonable_a these_o two_o word_n do_v so_o run_v in_o his_o mind_n that_o he_o fancy_v he_o read_v they_o in_o that_o place_n of_o my_o book_n out_o of_o which_o he_o pretend_v to_o take_v this_o quotation_n whereas_o indeed_o neither_o of_o those_o word_n be_v to_o be_v find_v in_o all_o that_o page_n no●_n any_o argument_n in_o those_o term_n wherein_o he_o give_v this_o but_o that_o the_o reader_n may_v see_v there_o be_v in_o that_o page_n such_o matter_n as_o may_v just_o deserve_v as_o well_o as_o require_v a_o answer_n an●_n which_o he_o in_o his_o thirty_o section_n to_o which_o he_o refer●_n do_v not_o reply_v unto_o i_o will_v repeat_v a_o argument_n out_o of_o that_o page_n with_o the_o occasion_n of_o it_o which_o be_v this_o the_o author_n of_o the_o conference_n have_v say_v pag._n 154._o that_o tithe_n be_v settle_v by_o those_o tha●_n be_v actual_o seize_v of_o they_o in_o law_n whereupon_o i_o thus_o argue_v if_o tithe_n be_v the_o ten_o of_o the_o profit_n or_o increase_v of_o the_o land_n and_o they_o that_o settle_a tithe_n as_o he_o say_v be_v actual_o seize_v of_o they_o in_o law_n then_o sure_o they_o can_v settle_v no_o more_o than_o they_o be_v actual_o seize_v of_o and_o they_o can_v be_v actual_o seize_v of_o no_o other_o profit_n or_o increase_v than_o what_o do_v grow_v increase_n or_o renew_v upon_o the_o land_n while_o they_o be_v actual_o seize_v of_o it_o so_o that_o such_o settlement_n how_o valid_a soever_o while_o they_o live_v must_v needs_o expire_v with_o they_o hence_o i_o further_o reason_v thus_o be_v any_o one_o so_o void_a of_o reason_n as_o to_o imagine_v that_o they_o who_o be_v possess_v of_o land_n a_o hundred_o year_n ago_o can_v then_o settle_v and_o dispose_v of_o the_o profit_n and_o increase_n that_o shall_v grow_v and_o arise_v upon_o the_o land_n a_o hundred_o year_n hence_o which_o profit_n can_v arise_v bare_o from_o the_o land_n but_o from_o the_o labour_n industry_n and_o stock_n of_o the_o occupier_n be_v ever_o any_o actual_o seize_v of_o the_o labour_n at_o the_o husband-man_n hand_n of_o the_o sweat_n of_o his_o b●ows_n of_o the_o judgement_n understanding_n and_o skill_n that_o god_n have_v give_v he_o of_o the_o stock_n he_o employ_v the_o cost_n he_o bestow_v the_o care_n pain_n industry_n and_o diligence_n he_o exercise_v for_o the_o obtain_n of_o a_o crop_n etc._n etc._n this_o solid_a argument_n and_o sober_a reason_n he_o call_v a_o old_a silly_a and_o blasphemous_a argument_n but_o whether_o it_o be_v either_o silly_a or_o blasphemous_a i_o willing_o submit_v to_o the_o impartial_a reader_n be_v judgement_n and_o whereas_o he_o pretend●_fw-fr he_o have_v sufficient_o baffle_v it_o before_o in_o sect._n 30._o i_o desire_v the_o reader_n to_o compare_v that_o section_n with_o my_o reply_n to_o it_o chap._n 5._o sect._n 5_o 6._o and_o judge_v as_o he_o find●_n cause_n but_o though_o the_o priest_n be_v not_o willing_a to_o handle_v this_o argument_n yet_o he_o glad_o catch_v a_o occasion_n from_o hence_o to_o complain_v again_o of_o i_o to_o the_o impropr●ators_n and_o he_o take_v a_o great_a deal_n of_o needless_a pain_n to_o inform_v they_o of_o what_o their_o own_o experience_n have_v long_o since_o teach_v they_o viz._n that_o the_o quaker_n deny_v their_o right_n to_o tithe_n the_o quaker_n do_v indeed_o deny_v tithe_n to_o be_v due_a to_o any_o one_o under_o the_o gospel-state_n and_o for_o that_o cause_n have_v suffer_v and_o do_v by_o impropriator_n as_o well_o as_o by_o priest_n nor_o be_v there_o any_o thing_n 〈◊〉_d my_o book_n relate_v to_o the_o impropriator_n which_o may_v any_o whit_n exc●se_n much_o less_o justify_v his_o panderous_a reflection_n on_o i_o well_o may_v i_o pity_v they_o but_o never_o shall_v i_o flatter_v muchless_a ●law_n they_o at_o least_o in_o that_o sense_n wherein_o they_o be_v sure_a enough_o to_o be_v claw_v if_o ever_o they_o come_v under_o the_o priest_n claw_n or_o fall_v within_o their_o clutch_n his_o scurrilous_a language_n and_o foul_a epithet_n of_o double-tongued_a and_o false-hearted_a with_o his_o ●●ye_a insinuation_n of_o my_o flatter_a and_o claw_v the_o impropriator_n argue_v nothing_o else_o to_o i_o but_o that_o he_o want_v other_o argument_n to_o fill_v up_o this_o section_n and_o think_v it_o best_a to_o make_v a_o noise_n that_o vulgar_a reader_n may_v 〈◊〉_d he_o have_v say_v something_o but_o for_o all_o his_o clamour_n many_o of_o the_o impropriator_n i_o doubt_v not_o discern_v both_o that_o it_o be_v conscience_n make_v the_o quaker_n refuse_v to_o pay_v tithe_n and_o covetousness_n make_v the_o priest_n so_o greedy_a to_o get_v tithe_n not_o only_o from_o the_o quaker_n but_o impropriator_n also_o §_o 15._o he_o say_v pag._n 195._o as_o for_o artificer_n pay_v tithe_n of_o their_o gain_n it_o be_v no_o more_o than_o what_o they_o be_v oblige_v to_o by_o s._n paul_n rule_n gal._n 6._o 6._o 〈◊〉_d give_v their_o pastor_n a_o share_n of_o all_o good_a thing_n this_o be_v not_o true_a that_o rule_n of_o st._n paul_n do_v not_o determine_v the_o proportion_n but_o leave_v artificer_n and_o all_o other_o to_o their_o christian-liberty_n in_o point_n of_o quantity_n therefore_o to_o oblige_v artificer_n to_o pay_v the_o tithe_n of_o their_o gain_n be_v more_o than_o st._n paul_n rule_n oblige_v they_o to_o final_o say_v the_o priest_n at_o the_o close_a of_o this_o section_n pag._n 196._o we_o grant_v to_o t._n e._n tithe_n be_v due_a o●t_n of_o the_o profit_v only_o and_o therefore_o of_o god_n give_v no_o increase_n or_o the_o husbandman_n have_v nothing_o grow_v we_o expect_v no_o tithe_n at_o all_o where_o be_v his_o freehold_n then_o but_o if_o tithe_n be_v due_a out_o of_o the_o profit_n only_o why_o be_v you_o priest_n so_o unreasonable_a to_o require_v tithe_n where_o there_o be_v no_o profit_n yea_o where_o instead_o of_o profit_n there_o be_v apparent_a loss_n as_o it_o be_v certain_a you_o frequent_o do_v the_o priest_n here_o say_v if_o