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A04482 The true copies of the letters betwene the reuerend father in God Iohn Bisshop of Sarum and D. Cole vpon occasion of a sermon that the said Bishop preached before the Quenes Maiestie, and hir most honorable Counsel. 1560. Set forthe and allowed, according to the order appointed in the Quenes Maiesties iniunctions. Cum gratia & priuilegio RegiƦ Maiestatis per septennium. Jewel, John, 1522-1571.; Cole, Henry, 1500?-1580. aut 1560 (1560) STC 14613; ESTC S107807 107,547 377

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