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A41212 A compendious discourse upon the case, as it stands between the Church of England and of Rome on the one hand, and again between the same Church of England and those congregations which have divided from it on the other hand together with the treatise of the division of the English church and the Romish, upon the Reformation / enlarged with some explicatory additionalls by H.F. ... Ferne, H. (Henry), 1602-1662. 1655 (1655) Wing F790; ESTC R5674 55,518 166

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Act. 5. what a fearfull judgement was shewn upon Ananias and his Wife for withdrawing part of that he had devoted to the use of the Church That they may fear who are so hardy as to commit greater Sacriledge in taking to their private use what others have applied to the service of the Church And shall I speak the Result of my Thoughts secretly enquiring what might be the Cause wherefore it should please God to suffer the Church of Rome to continue in so powerfull condition notwithstanding all the Errors and profanations taught and practised therein I saw reason wherefore God whose way is in the Sanctuary Ps. 77. 13. secret but holy and just should for the sins and carelesnesse of Christians turning his grace into wantonness suffer after 600 yeares knowledge of his Truth many Errors to enter and prevail generally over the Church and make the word of truth more precious to the end that they which were approved might be manifest 1 Cor. 11. And wherefore he should for the divisions and cares of Christians suffer the Vanity of Mahumetan superstition to gain ground upon the Christian Territories to the punishment of many and the trial of those that were constant But that after it pleased him to make the light of the Gospel break out and the truth appear in the Reformation he should suffer the Church of Rome with all her detected Errors which from the Sixt age of Christianity had prevailed still to continue in power and glory as to the greater part of what it possessed besides that generall reason the lives of Protestants too much unanswerable to the Truth and light God had opened unto them I can finde no speciall one unlesse it be the guilt of sacriledge in most protestant Churches tumultuarily reformed casting out Bishops invading their Office and seizing upon the revenues of their Churches Thus to the dishonour and prejudice of Gods Truth making it a part of their Reformation to cast out that which the Catholick Church had alwayes carefully observed and was yet commendably reteined in the Church of Rome Had the Reformation every where as it did in England reteined the Ancient prayers and form of Liturgy the ancient Government by Bishops and not laid hands on the meanes of the Church the Dagon of Romish Error would every where have faln before it If the prevailing of Sects to the disturbance of this Church be objected against the Regular reformation of it We acknowledge God is just and how now covered the face of this Church with a Cloud in his his Anger and for our sins chiefly who should have kept the charge of his Sanctuary and his holy things We are ready to receive the charge of any Personall failings or neglects in the use of our power Office performance of our Duties according to our severall stations yet let them know they had not sufficient Authority to make Reformation of Personal Abuses but if through our sides they strike as they doe at the Power Office and Function it self and because they conceive us unworthy of the meanes applyed to the Church will therefore take it to themselves let them fear what will follow and what can follow but confusion both from the boundlesse course of Error finding no stay when once it has past the due limits and from the usuall Course of Gods justice punishing deceitfull men with their own pretences feares and delusions For when once the spirit of Error has forsaken the Rule and broken the bounds of lawfull Government which held all together has raised so many humors and impowred so many sects what one way right or wrong can be agreed on setled established It is not imaginable without changing of the Errors and destructive Principles upon which the discord is raised and continued And what can be the end or Issue suitable to such proceedings and to the just judgement of God but that after there has been Levelling upon Levelling and every sect has had its course to the punishment of this sinfull unthankfull Nation we should be exposed to the danger of some forrein power that will impose new Lawes and another Religion upon this people if a more generall humiliation doe not prevent it I doe not mean a Fasting for strife as they did Isa. 58. 4. we have had too much of that already to the greater provocation of Almighty God but a real true repentance in turning every man from his evil way and from the violence that is in their hands as the Ninivites did Jon. 3. 8. It was the Pretence or fear of the Scribes and Pharisees gathered together in their great Councel against Christ Venient Romani if they should suffer him and his doctrine the Romans would come and take away their place and nation Jo. 11. 48. and therefore God in his just judgement did punish them as he threatned Isa. 66. 4. in chusing their delusions and bringing their feares upon them the Romans did come and therefore come and tooke away their Place and Nation because they tooke away Christ and opposed his Gospell and to make the easier way for the Romans to come in severall factions as Iosephus tells us prevailing amongst them ceased not in the mean time to destroy one the other So it was the pretence and this fear was put into the people that if the Church of England and the Governours thereof were suffered to goe on Venient Romani the Romish Religion or Popery would come in and by this fear or jealousy the People were raised against their superiours as the people were then against Christ When as indeed by their pulling down what formerly was well established and by destroying one what the other builds they make fair way for the Romish Religion or the Alcoran or Atheism to come in over their Ruines or through the many breaches made by severall Sects If the Teares and prayers of the obedient Sons of this Church and of those that would live peaceably in the Land doe not prevent it by averting Gods just wrath and procuring a restauration to this Church that it may be a praise again upon Earth There is hope and comfort in the next verse Isa. 66. 5. to them that tremble at the word of the Lord Your brethren that hated yow that cast yow out for my Names sake said Let the Lord be glorified blessing him for the successe of their iniquity or in confidence thereof provoking him to shew his approbation of their Cause and doings by his judgements but he shall appear to your joy and they shall be ashamed The first Ejectors or Levellers of our Time those of the Presbyterian way who cast out and sequestred whom they pleased and tooke possession and said Let the Lord be glorified for their successe great cause have they now it appears what confusion follows upon their beginnings to be ashamed of what they have done I pray God they may and lay it sadly to heart and that all others who have advanced upon
is now in Heaven at Gods Right Hand we on Earth and if we understand Him and our selves how when we are admitted to the Sacrament we are applying to God by him and receiving from God through him the greatest benefits we cannot but think there is cause for the greatest expression of our most humble acknowledgments Bowing at the Name of JESUS is by the Church appointed to be done sometimes in publick Divine Service as an acknowledgment of his Deity his Exaltation and Lordship over all set out Act. 2. 36. Phil. 2. 11. and that we are his poor devoted Creatures whom he has made and redeemed It is a divine worship standing in such inward acknowledgment and honour and outward bowing of the body given to the Person of Christ known by that Name and it is strange if any Christian should deny it lawfull to worship and adore our Saviour Christ at any time especially to doe it when he is named considering what the Apostle also saith Phil. 2. 10. which must needs infer at least that it may be done when he is named So here is no new Worship invented by the Church for the Worship then given is due to God and prescribed by him but the performance of it onely determined when it shall be given or expressed viz. at the Name of Jesus or when he is named As for that precept of the Apostle Abstain from all appearance of evill 1 Thes. 5. 22. which they make a pretence for their declining of the Rites and Ceremonies of this Church It gives direction for private practice in things left indifferent to our choice in the occurrencies of life gives no warrant against Authority to use liberty in things determined thereby under pretence of appearance of evill in them as said Treat 2. cap. 1. For here we are still bound according to the Rule often above delivered to shew the thing enjoyned by Authority is not onely in appearance but indeed evill in it self formally or forbidden by Gods positive command Again The Rites Ceremonies and Practices of this Church have not to any judgement cleared from Passion Prejudice or Faction an appearance of evil in them i. e. of Superstition or Wil-worship as they fancie ignorantly or wilfully but of good i. e. of order decency reverence devotion expression of the duty we are about and of the internal worship then yeelded Of all which there is a fairer appearance in the communion of this Church than in the confused and irreverend deportments of their Assemblies §. XXII Touching the point of worship Now to the end that they which understand not so much as they should in the points of Worship and Adoration may better conceive what error and offence they run into by their causelesse and inconsiderate feare of Superstition in many just and lawfull practices of the Church I must first tell them that by their abstaining from the publick service of God because the Prayers are in Set-forms by their not comming to the Communion because to be received Kneeling by withholding their Children from Baptisme rather than they should be signed with the crosse and the like they make themselves guilty of wilfull neglect of duty to God of obed●ence to the Church and fall into that superstition which is called Negative For they place Religion in not doing these account themselves therfore godly and pure and make such abhorring or abstinence from these a mark of their Religion or Sect And then that may better understand themselves in the point of Worship they ought to put a difference between the Substance and the Circumstantials of Worship The Substance of Worship stands as said above in a due act internall externall directed on the due object and this is of Gods prescription The Circumstantials of Worship are seen in the decent and profitable managing of the Worship for Time Place Order or the like and in these the Church has power Again Worship is determined Objectively to such or such a thing or person receiving the worship or Circumstancially ad hic nunc to the time and place The Church has no power in the first cannot transferre any religious worship upon an undue Object but has power in the Second may appoint when and where and by whom and on what occasion the worship due to God and prescribed by him shall be performed in publick For Words that are heard and Things that are seen carrying in them a remembrance of benefits and duties and therefore Motives of Worship to God who gives the benefit and expects the duty may determine our Worship to time and place inciting us to perform it then and there when and where we hear such Words or see such Things and this is a Circumstantiall determination of Worship not an Objective When the people heard Moses words they bowed the head and Worshiped Exod. 12. 27. What! not the Words which Moses spake but they worshipped the Lord upon hearing such words as conteined such Motives of Worship In that Idolatrous Worship Dan. 3. at the hearing of the Instruments of Musick they fell down c. The Worship was not given to the sound but at the sound to the Idol erected the sound of that Musick did onely circumstancially determine the Worsh●p but the Golden Image Objectively and that made the Idolatry So when religious worship for the reason is alike is given to our Saviour Christ upon the hearing of his name Jesus not letters and syllables of his Name but the Person of our Saviour is the Object of the Worship and the naming or speaking of his Name Jesus which notes his Person and withall carryes in it the remembrance of that Salvation he wrought for us and therefore the greatest Motive of worship does determine the Worship Circumstantially i. e. the performance of it to such a time or occasion So for Things seen which bear the remembrance of such benefits as may give Motive of Worship and determine it not Objectively but this way rather then that The Ark with the Mercy seat was the sign and witnesse of Gods presence there I will meet with thee and commune with thee Exod 25. 22. and therefore they worshipped towards it Worship at his footstoole Ps. 99. 5. and 132. 7. So it was called because of the speciall exhibition of his presence on Earth Now the worship was not given to the Ark Objectively but to God only that way or thitherward rather then other Thus Daniel prayed towards Jerusalem c. 6. 10. And should any that I may speak of Rites not enjoyned by this Church yet practiced by some and no question piously pray as the Ancient Christians did towards the East in acknowledgement of the light of the Gospel risen upon them or at their comming into Gods house bow themselves in sense of the great presence and of the holy duties they come to and of their own unworthinesse or in their approach to the holy Table bow or prostrate themselves to the ground in
their or the like Principles may in time consider it and not think it enough to say the Lord be glorified because they prosper and are become rich but rather enquire whether that they have done be as to their private advantage and gain so to the behoofe of Gods Church and the advancement of true Religion and whether the Lord to whom they have so oft appealed by their Fasts and Thanksgivings can indeed own their doings as making for his glory certainly the Lord must deny himself which he will not do if he own Injustice Schisme and Sacriledge Hee forbeares a while and keepes silence for Causes best known to himself and men prospering by those sins think he is such a one as themselves approving their doings but he will reprove them and set before them what they have done He will appeare and they shall be ashamed If such considerations as these prevaile not with them that doe gain by the formentioned sins yet let the word of exhortation take hold upon you all you that have followed the Schism in the simplicity of your hearts not engaged by any design of gain or self-interest but only deceived with the pretence of Purity in Gods worship and of strictnesse of life Doe not make your selves guilty of other mens sins sins that cannot stand with Righteousnesse or that Charity which the Apostle requires so strictly 1 Cor. 13. without which all your other supposed Purity Faith or Knowledge is nothing will stand you in no stead Consider sadly how those you follow have led you from the Unity of this your Nationall Church and thereby from the profession of Catholick Primitive Truth from Obedienee to your lawfull Governors and Guides who bore the same Office taught the same Doctrine held the same way of publick Worship as did those martyrd Bishops in Primitive Times as did also those other in Queene Marie's dayes How I say they have led you from this Catholique Communion into a way of which whether Classicall or Congregationall we see the late and irregular beginning it being but the product of some tumultuary Reformations made in France Geneva Holland or Scotland and by those that would be contentious here imitated and violently attempted to the disturbance of this Church not without the down-right guilt of Schism and Sacriledge Consider it sadly and do as those Confessors did who being led away by the Novation Schismaticks under like pretence of purity and strictness as soon as they perceived their error confessed it and returned to the Unity of the Catholick Church as St. Cyprian often relates and propounds it as an example and motive for Unity Do you so and then may you obteine what you pretend was your aim and desire Purity and righteousnesse indeed which you cannot in the way of Schisme by reason it holds not a perfect Rule of Righteousness but such as is strict in denying small things and flying appearances of Evill but large in admitting great Offences teaching to straine at Gnats and swallow Camells to scruple at a Rite and Ceremony but makes no bones of Disobedience Schisme Sacriledge and so necessarily leaves your Consciences while ye are in that Communion defiled with your partaking in such sinnes But return into the Unity of this Church and shew your Communion with it in the publique worship of God Liturgy and Sacrament then may you perfect Holinsse in the feare of God and with good Conscience peforme all the parts of Purity and Righteousnesse And do it in Gods name according to all the Duties he requires of you and according to all the opportnuities he puts into your hands So will your Purity and Righteousnesse exceed that of the Pharisees and as many as walk after this Rule Peace be on them and Mercy and on the Israel of God Amen The End It holds the truth between Romanists and Sectaries In Catholick Practice and Tradition In the visible and invisible condition of the Church The Article touching the Church In the Papal Infallibility and private judgment In the due subordination of Pastors and Governors National-Church Reformation Publick or Private Actual Non-communion Schisme Difference of it in regard of the parties between which Difference in degrees of it Iust cause for Reformation Trial of a Church as to a safe communion with it A necessary Rule Such authority in the nationall Ch of Engl. VVhat makes a Church Christian Orthodox Protestant and reformed we have not cast off the Faith received Bishop of Rome his pretence to universall jurisdiction Impossible to make it good His special pretence to jurisdiction over this Chur Conclusion of the whole case as it stands with the Roman Church Difference 'twixt just and distempered Reformations 1. Church Government 2. Church Authority in making Decrees Orders 3. Force of Church-Custome 4. Vnion of charity 5. Admonition and rejection of Hereticks and Schismaticks Application of the Premises VVant of Purity Ancient Schismaticks had like pretence of purity VVhat is meant by a Bishop Force of universall practise or Catholick Tradition Presbytery Elders and Bishops Of the first Elders set in the Church by the Apostles No example or precept in Scripture for the Adversaries pretension The alteration of Church-government from Presbyterian to Episcopall not imaginable Of other reformed Churches which have not Bishops Our Liturgy how agreeing with the Mass-book Lawfulnesse of set Formes Expediency of set Forms in publick Expediency of Set Formes in publique Spirituall gifts to be used but with submission to the Chur Lords Prayer undervalued neglected Not burthensome or superstitious Vse of Ceremonies significant Standing up at Creed Ring in Marriage Cross in Baptisme Kneeling at the Sacrament Bowing at the name Circumstantialls of VVorship Objective terminations of VVorship and Circumstantiall Instances Confusion the Issue of Error having passed due bounds Confusion levelling upon levelling Self-Condemnation of the Pharisees How it concernes these days Gods Iudgements on Schism and Sacriledge VVhy God suffers Error so much to prevaile against Truth Confusion of boundless Error Punished often with its owne pretences Exhort to all that truly desire Purity which cannot be had truly in the state of Schisme