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A47551 That neither temporallitie[s] nor tythes is due to the bishops, prelates nor clergy, by a Gospel rule And that kings, princes and lords temporal, may j[ust]ly take the temporallities and tythes from them, and dispose of the ... the defence and benefit of the kingdom, and the relief of the poor. Proved by the laws and pract[i]ce of twenty Kings of Judah, England, and France as also by the testimonies of the Universities of Oxford and Prague, fifty four of ... nobles of Bohemia and Morania, two hundred and fifty years agone, and als[o] one hundred and twenty authors beside. Together with some directions how gospel ministers ought to have maintenance, according to the gospel rule, and institutions of Iesus Christ. By E. K. Netherlands. Emancipatiekommissie. 1672 (1672) Wing K6A; ESTC R218954 82,628 97

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living wickedly ought to be reproved by the Laity by taking away their Tythes and other Temporal Profits from them and give them to others c. Mr. Tindal Mr. Tindall in his Book of Obedience of a Christian page 114 115. saith That the Sword is put into the Kings hand to execute vengeance upon all evil dooers But now saith he the Bishops minister the Temporal Sword and the Office of Preaching they lay aside and will neither preach themselves nor suffer others that would to preach but slay them with the temporal sword and as none saith he can preach Christ except they preach against Antichrist and as none can heal a disease unless he begin at the root so canst thou not preach against any mischief except thou begin at the Bishops And in page 124. he saith Those that are sworn to be true to the Pope Cardinals and Bishops it is as if they should swear to be false to Christ to the King and to the Realm for such Prelates that will revenge themselves of men for speaking the truth and for every trifle they are not fit to preach the patience of Christ Henry Stalbridge To the same purpose writeth Henry Stalbridge in his Exhortative Epistle to his dear Countreymen of England he saith that what blood hath been shed between Emperor and Emperor Kingdom and Kingdom Constantinople Almain England France Italy and Spain who seeth not that the pride of bloody Bishops is the ground and original foundation of all Controversies Schismes Variances and Wars between Realm and Realm see the fift and sixth part of the Homily of Whitsunday And to confirm the truth of this consider whether the carriage and practice of Prelates and their Doctrines such as Godfrey Goodman Bishop of Glocester who in one Sermon at White-Hall before his Majesty delivered five points of flat Popery and did follow many Popish practises And at another time in the year 1636. he said that the Church of Rome and our Church are both as one for we said he and he said not much amiss have both the same Hierarchy and Government the same Liturgie Holy-dayes Fasts Ceremonies Sacraments c. so as those who affirm that Papists are damned do but through the sides of the Church of Rome give a deadly blow to the Church of England and deny that we are saved with more the like And also Bishop Laud's silencing and suspending of Ministers and sending a new book of Common Prayer differing from ours into Scotland consider whether these and the like were not the cause of our late unhappy Warrs in England Bernard Bernard as touching Bishops having Conusance in their Courts of Tythes c. writes thus For Tythes Testaments Administrations Servitude Legitimations and such like saith he to Pope Eugenius you went beyond your bounds when you restrained them to your Courts and without Caesar made Laws for things that did belong to Caesar for the Goods Lands Livings Estates of Lay-men and Clerks also are Caesars Charge and not yours nor the Prelates My Kingdom saith Christ is not of this world If then the Pope Prelates and Priests will be the servants of Christ saith Ambrose they must not challenge any worldly Kingdom Ambrose the servant is not above his Master and if the Master deny it the servant may not affirm it and usurp it Souldiers of Christ must not entangle themselves with the affairs of this world much less to make themselves Lords and Judges of earthly matters William Ocham William Ocham a famous Schoolman writ a book about the year 1330. which was printed in London in which he saith that Clergie men are liable to pay tribute unto Princes and that Princes may take away their Lands and Possessions when they abuse them to Luxury Pomp and other private uses and they may imploy them for the defence and peace of the Realm And after he adds That all the Revenue of Clergie men but that which is sufficient to provide them Food and Rayment with which they ought to be content as Paul saith 1 Tim. 6.8 Having Food and Rayment let us be therewith content and the rest ought to be spent in pious uses and in feeding the poor which if they be not employed in this sort Kings ought to take care of them to set some to see it done William Prynne In the second part of Mr. William Prynne's book of the Antipathy of the English Lord Prelates both the Regal Monarchy and Civil Unity page 311 he saith that the endowing of the Prelates with great temporel Revenues was the very bane and poyson of Religion and one principal cause of Bishops Rebellions Treasons and Exorbitances he had fore-mentioned and therefore they may both with good Conscience and reason be subtracted from them and put to better uses and they like other Ministers be confined to one competent living with Cure there constantly to reside and instruct the People like Bishops in the Primitive Church for so long as our Lordly Prelates continue there will not only be a possibility but a probability of bringing in Popery and the Pope again amongst us since their Lordly Hierarchy is supported by Popish Doctrine Canons Ceremonies Liturgie Godfry Goodman Holy dayes c. as Godfry Goodman Bishop of Glocester said a little above which they are ingaged to maintain to preserve their tottering Thrones from ruine John Salisbury John Salisbury our Country man flourished about the year of Christ 1140. de nugis Curialium lib. 8. cap. 17 23. writ thus of the pride and sedition of the Bishops Thou maist admire to see the various Houshold stuff and Riches as they say of Craesus amonst them that preach poor Christ they live of the Gospel without preaching the Gospel and it is well if they live only so as they do not also riot they so gape after gain that they contem the things of Jesus Christ and are neither worthy the honour nor name either of Pastor or Hireling they do that which makes them to be feared of all and to be beloved of none they preach Peace yet make Division they make a shew and counterfeit Humility that they may challenge Pride in fulness they dispute of Fasting and what they build up with words they pull down with deeds the works they do bear witness of them you may know them by their Fruits they do not only contend but fight for a Bishoprick the Antients were dragged against their wills to a Bishoprick but went willingly to Martyrdome they feared the chief Chains worse then a Prison or Cross Ex Catal. Illyr There is a Story that about the year 1228. at Paris in a Synode or Convocation of the Clergie one that was appointed to preach was much troubled in his minde what to say the Devil came unto him and asked him why he was so careful what to Preach say thus quoth the Devil the Princes of Hell salute you O ye Princes of the Church and gladly give you thanks because that through your
the Temporalities so abused as it were by way of Physick to withstand and put a stop to sins saith the University for so much as they are not endowed but with Conditions the which Conditions are broken and the Title of the Gift lost and they that gave the Alms or their Successors ought to correct the offences for as in a just War it is lawful to take away the goods of the outward Enemies so also it is lawful to take away the goods of the Clergy being the inward Enemy by their evil Example they not walking according to the Rules of Christ for inward Enemies are more hurtful than outward and it is said in the 12th Article That there is no greater Heretick nor Antichrist than those Clerks which teach that it is lawful for Priests now under the Law of Grace to be endowed with Temporal Possessions and if there be any Hereticks Apostates or Blasphemers these Clerks be such A Supplication to K. Hen. 8. If it were thought unmeet by the Apostles that they should leave the word of God and serve Tables Acts 6.2 which yet was a work of mercy to serve the Poor can any man be so ignorant as to think it meet and fit that the Prelates should leave the word of God to deal in Temporal matters to keep Courts to set Leases and receive Rents and keep books of Accompts and Rent-Rols c. the Apostles did no such things therefore they cannot be the Successors of the Apostles It was said in a Supplication to King Henry the eighth about the year 1544. That the only infection and pestilent poyson of the Prelates is their great Lordships and Dominion which hath fashioned them with proud Countenances and worldly behaviour more like Heathen Princes than Christ and his Apostles and Christ said to his Apostles the Princes of the Gentiles exercise Dominion c. but it shall not be so among you Mat. 20.26 For Bishops so love their worldly honour that they will not preach the Truth for displeasing of men lest they lose their great Possessions Riches and worldly Offices which is the cause of their sins Thus this pestilent poyson of worldy riches being taken from them the word of God shall flourish faith shall be increased and sin decreased and true obedience shall be observed with all humble obedience to your Majesty 13 It is lawful for the Clergy by their power to take away the Sacrament from the Laity customably offending It is by the like reason lawful for the Secular power to take away the Temporalities from the Clergy they offending customably in not performing the conditions for which the Temporalities were given besides other offences for say they the true and easiest way for directing the Clergy unto Conformity to the life of Christ and his Apostles and most profitable for the Laity the Church is that the Clergy should not be suffered to live contrary unto Christs Institutions to which I shall adde that the Clergy who make such a bussling about Conformity are themselves the greatest and most obstinate Non-conformists in the world The Prelates are the greatest Non-conformists to the Gospel Commandements and Institution of Christ for Christ hath not Instituted that any Gospel Minister should have any Temporalities or Tythes nor to live in such glorious Pomp and State in the world nor to have such Dignities nor exercise such Jurisdictions c. Therefore it belongs to Christian Magistrates to take those Superfluities from them which occasion their sinful revolt and disobedience to the Laws of Christ for by the abundance of Temporalities say they the Worm or Serpent of Pride is sprang up whereupon unsatiable desire and lust is inflamed and thereby proceedeth all kind of Gluttony and Leachery but the Temporalities being taken away every one of these sins will either utterly be taken away or at the least diminished by the contrary virtue induced and brought in The Prophesie of Hildegardis This that is said of taking away the Temporalities from the Clergy seems to be prophesied of by Hildegardis the Virgin whieh Prophecie was approved of in the Council of Trevers by many Bishops of France Italy and Almain St. Bernard being there present she spake on this manner The Kings and other Rulers of the World being stirred up by the just Judgement of God shall set themselves against them and run upon them saying We will not have these men to rule over us with their rich Houses and great Possessions and other worldly Riches over which we are ordained to be Lords and Rulers wherefore let us take away from them that which they do not justly but wrongfully possess c. for the Spirituality should not possess more then necessity doth require that where there is more it should be taken away and given to the needy This spake that Virgin Prophetess plainly foreshewing the taking away the Temporalities from the Clergy by the secular Power 14 Gregory St. Gregory writ to the Emperour Mauritius when he persecuted him I do believe saith he that you please God the better in so persecuting me which have been so evil a servant unto him And Pope Leo Pope Leo. submitted himself unto Lodovicus the Emperour as in 2. quest 7. If we have done any thing incompetently or that we have not observed the upright path and way of Equity amongst Subjects we will amend the same either by your own judgement or by the advice and judgement of those which you shall appoint for that purpose for if we which ought to correct and punish other mens faults do commit more grievous our selves we are not then the Disciples of the Truth but as with sorrow we speak it we shall be above all others the Masters of Error Thus much concerning the Arguments of the University of Prague And to confirm the Writings and Opinion of John Wickliffe the Vice Chancellor of the University of Oxford with the whole Congregation of the Masters with one consent gave this Testimony of him and said The Testimony of the University of Oxford in behalf of John Wickliffe For the special good will and care which we bear unto John Wickliffe sometime Child of this Vniversity and Professor of Divinity moving and stirring our minds as his manners and conditions required no less with one mind voice and testimony we do witness all his conditions and doings throughout his whole life to have been most sincere and commendable whose honest manners and conditions profoundness of Learning and most redolent Renown and Fame we desire the more earnestly to be notified and known unto all the Faithful for that we understand the maturity and ripeness of his Conversation his diligent Labours and Travels to tend to the praise of God the help and safegard of others and the profit of the Church Wherefore wee signifie unto you by these Presents That his Conversation from his youth upward unto the time of his death was so praise worthy and honest that never at any time was there
shall give an account of your Office at which day that you may stand stedfast and have your Quietus est Sealed with the blood of Christ is my daily prayer to him that suffered death for our sins to whom be all honour and praise for ever Amen Thus much of Mr. Latimer his Letter to King Hen. 8. Eneas Silvius Eneas Silvius before he was Pope in a Letter to the Rector of the University of Collin he said To a true Christian indeed nothing ought to be more desired than the sincerity and pureness of Faith given us of Christ be kept of all men immaculate and if at any time any thing be attempted against the true Doctrine of the Gospel the people ought with one consent to provide lawful remedy and every man to bring with him some water to quench the general fire neither must we fear saith he how we be hated or envyed so we bring the truth with us we must resist every man to his face whether he be Paul or Peter if he walk not directly to the rule of the Gospel This is part of Eneas his Letter which I think with Mr. Latimer's Letter above is sufficient to justifie my Innocency in what I have done in collecting of so many reverend Authors to shew what their judgement and practise hath been according to the word of God though it be not according to the practise of our Prelates now Julian Palmer As all good works are wonderful saith Julian Palmer so this in particular That God hath in all ages stirred up some to bear witness to the Truth against those Usurpers who have and do rob and spoile both Kings and Kingdoms by unjust deteyning Lands and Possessions c. in their hands to which they have no right and do buy false Glosses Excommunications Imprisonments Banishments Scourging Pilloring Persecuting by open violence and secret practises abuse the simple sheep of Christ that do endeavour to serve God and to discover their false usurped wayes rather then they will depart with their dishonest gain and have their Kitchin cooled their Coffers emptied or their Rents and Revenues abated The Protestant Church at Paris The fourth of September 1558. Three or four hundred Christians being assembled in Paris in France to worship God in a private meeting they were seised upon and some escaped and some were taken and imprisoned Who wrote a Letter to the King declaring out of divers Histories what afflictions and calamities from time to time had befallen the Enemies and hinderers of Gods worship for their resisting the free passage of the Gospel Shewing also that when the King did by his Edict hinder the free worship and service of God then did God send War and other Calamities upon him and his Kingdom and when he ceased the execution of such Edicts then he prospered according to his own desires as long as the true worship of God and his Ordinances took place And in the Primative Church while Prelates and Ministers were of small Wealth and sought not their own profit but the glory of God and his Ordinances so long the Truth prospered and prevailed but since the Pope and Prelates began to be Prince like and to usurp Dominion over the Emperour and Kings they have turned the Scripture from the true sence and have attributed the service to themselves which we ow unto God framing a worship according to their own fancy for their private advantage to maintain their usurped Dignities Jurisdictions and Possessions Wherefore your Majaesty may with good and safe Conscience seize upon all their Temporalities and Benefices and imploy them to to their right use which is for your own affairs for the safety of the Kingdom and the easement of your poor Subjects which alone bear the burthen and for the relief of the poor whereas now there is an infinite number in your Kingdom which occupie the greatest and chiefest benefices which never deserved any part of them And consider that alwayes those Emperours and Kings have the best prospered that imbraced the true Christian Faith for the Kings Throne is established in Righteousness Prov. 16.20 28. Anne du Burg. Loys du Farr The true and only way Sir say they to remedy and redress these grievances is that you call a general Councel in your Kingdom your self being the chief in which every thing tending to the worship and service of God may be tried by the word of God in which Council men of parts and faithfulness to God should be heard for God and those that enjoy such Dignities and Possessions be heard how they can prove their holding them by the Scripture to be lawful or else to part with them And your Majesty or some whom you may appoint not corrupted nor interested to either party but indifferunt may report to your Majesty the true sence of the Scripture without partiality and after according to the example of David Solomon Jehoshaphat Hezekiah and Josiah you may remove out of the Church all Idolatry Superstition Will-worship and humane Inventions which is contrary to holy Scripture for God will not own any Plant in his Church that is not of his own planting Here was good Council if it had taken place but mark what followed Anne du Burg a Councellor at Law Loys du Farr a Councellor also who did solicite and intercede in the behalf of those imprisoned Christians were both apprehended and cast into prison the King in a rage threatning du Burg that he with his own eyes would see him burnt but God prevented him for the same day that he so threatned the King in his Justing and breaking their Spears the King received his Deaths wound and it was reported that the King said he was striken for casting the poor Christians wrongfully in prison This was Henry the second French King Origen saith Origen That Princes will not beleive that others have fallen by such means until they fall themselves And they said further If the Emperour Antonius a Pagan and an Idolator seeing himself wrapt with Wars ceased the Persecution which was against the Christians and determined to hear their Causes and Reasons how much more ought you that bear the name of most Chistian King to be careful and diligent to cease the Persecution against poor Christians for until you have heard and lawfully debated our Reasons taken out of Scripture how can your Majesty judge us worthy of such punishments for while we are governed by the word of God neither Fire nor Sword nor the cruelest torments can make us afraid Observe these Expressions Christians may learn good Instructions from some of the heathen I will name some Christian-like expressions of this Pagan Antonius he wrot twelve Books in the first Book he said Let it be thy incessant care as a Roman as a man to perform whatsoever it is that thou art about with true and unfeigned gravity natural affection freedom and justice and go about every action as thy last action free from