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A85394 Hagiomastix, or The scourge of the saints displayed in his colours of ignorance & blood: or, a vindication of some printed queries published some moneths since by authority, in way of answer to certaine anti-papers of syllogismes, entituled a Vindication of a printed paper, &c. ... / By John Goodwin, pastor of a Church of Christ in Colemanstreet. Goodwin, John, 1594?-1665. 1647 (1647) Wing G1169; Thomason E374_1; ESTC R201334; ESTC R201335 139,798 168

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face_n of_o all_o these_o man_n themselves_o grant_v in_o terminis_fw-la that_o it_o be_v bend_v against_o such_o who_o in_o their_o sense_n for_o so_o they_o must_v needs_o be_v understand_v shall_v publish_v doctrine_n that_o be_v hurtful_a to_o the_o peace_n of_o the_o church_n and_o state_n yea_o they_o grant_v by_o way_n of_o a_o clear_a supposition_n that_o there_o be_v of_o 78_o sect._n 78_o these_o who_o be_v conscientious_a if_o they_o shall_v not_o their_o own_o conscience_n will_v not_o bear_v it_o at_o their_o hand_n only_o they_o deny_v that_o the_o ordinance_n be_v bend_v against_o these_o man_n as_o they_o be_v conscientious_a do_v ever_o the_o dragon_n or_o the_o beast_n i_o mean_v rome_n either_o pagan_a or_o antichristian_a bend_v their_o bloody_a edict_n or_o persecution_n against_o the_o saint_n the_o most_o conscientious_a man_n among_o they_o as_o they_o be_v conscientious_a or_o in_o any_o other_o respect_n or_o consideration_n whatsoever_o then_o as_o in_o 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such_o man_n whereas_o they_o charge_v the_o querist_n as_o a_o man_n with_o who_o any_o heretic_n or_o blasphemer_n may_v pass_v for_o a_o conscientious_a man_n i_o pass_v by_o it_o as_o judge_v that_o no_o man_n will_v think_v it_o worth_a the_o take_n up_o whereas_o they_o engage_v themselves_o with_o so_o much_o diligence_n to_o 78._o sect._n 78._o prove_v that_o law_n must_v be_v bend_v against_o instrument_n of_o evil_a notwithstanding_o any_o conscience_n they_o pretend_v to_o have_v take_v knowledge_n reader_n that_o it_o be_v but_o a_o stale_a device_n to_o delude_v simple_a and_o inconsider_a man_n usual_o practise_v by_o those_o who_o be_v not_o able_a to_o grapple_v with_o a_o adversary_n in_o the_o point_n in_o question_n between_o they_o hunt_v counter_a and_o follow_v with_o great_a eagerness_n and_o openness_n of_o mouth_n a_o false_a send_v lay_v on_o proof_n upon_o proof_n reason_n upon_o reason_n to_o prove_v something_o which_o it_o may_v be_v have_v some_o affinity_n at_o least_o in_o a_o sound_n of_o word_n with_o the_o question_n in_o hand_n but_o be_v never_o deny_v nor_o intend_v to_o be_v deny_v by_o their_o opposer_n nor_o indeed_o be_v any_o matter_n of_o controversy_n between_o any_o that_o by_o this_o mean_v they_o may_v cover_v their_o weakness_n and_o insufficiency_n to_o deal_v with_o their_o adversary_n from_o weak_a and_o injudicious_a man_n and_o seem_v to_o carry_v the_o day_n before_o they_o with_o a_o strong_a hand_n the_o counter-querists_a 79_o sect._n 79_o have_v take_v this_o sanctuary_n once_o again_o and_o the_o three_o time_n also_o in_o this_o their_o vindication_n and_o they_o do_v it_o palpable_o in_o this_o place_n for_o do_v the_o querist_n ever_o deny_v or_o intimate_v the_o least_o inclination_n in_o he_o towards_o a_o denial_n but_o that_o law_n ought_v to_o be_v bend_v against_o instrument_n of_o evil_a notwithstanding_o any_o conscience_n they_o pretend_v to_o have_v therefore_o the_o labour_n which_o they_o bestow_v in_o the_o proof_n of_o this_o they_o shall_v have_v do_v well_o to_o have_v convert_v some_o other_o way_n and_o particular_o in_o seek_v out_o a_o rock_n to_o build_v their_o high-presbytery_n upon_o which_o all_o this_o while_n stand_v upon_o sandy_a and_o loose_a foundation_n that_o which_o they_o yet_o add_v in_o the_o close_a of_o this_o answer_n concern_v geneva_n have_v law_n against_o heretic_n etc._n etc._n neither_o reach_v the_o demand_n of_o the_o querie_n nor_o yet_o the_o import_n of_o their_o own_o argument_n pretend_v legitimacy_n of_o descent_n from_o it_o it_o be_v one_o thing_n for_o a_o state_n to_o have_v law_n against_o heretic_n another_o by_o law_n or_o ordinance_n to_o strike_v at_o great_a and_o very_o considerable_a number_n of_o the_o best_a and_o most_o conscientious_a man_n among_o they_o if_o those_o law_n against_o heretic_n and_o false_a teacher_n in_o the_o state_n of_o geneva_n of_o which_o they_o speak_v be_v compare_v with_o the_o ordinance_n whereof_o we_o both_o speak_v i_o believe_v they_o will_v be_v so_o far_o from_o justify_v it_o that_o it_o will_v rather_o justify_v they_o by_o be_v more_o unrighteous_a and_o unreasonable_a than_o they_o in_o their_o twenty_o answer_n they_o sing_v over_o their_o old_a note_n affirm_v that_o the_o ordinance_n be_v of_o no_o such_o bloody_a consequence_n to_o true_o 79._o sect._n 79._o pious_a and_o conscientious_a ●en_n as_o any_o thing_n which_o the_o bishop_n do_v attempt_v against_o the_o godly_a who_o they_o hate_a as_o they_o presume_v they_o have_v show_v but_o where_o or_o to_o who_o or_o by_o what_o light_n they_o have_v show_v it_o i_o be_o yet_o to_o query_n whereas_o they_o add_v in_o the_o close_a of_o this_o answer_n that_o the_o bishop_n be_v cast_v out_o for_o their_o lukewarmnesse_n do_v they_o mean_v for_o their_o lukewarmnesse_n in_o attempt_v the_o sorrow_n trouble_n molestation_n of_o conscientious_a and_o pious_a man_n or_o in_o procure_v ordinance_n and_o law_n for_o the_o support_n and_o strengthen_n of_o their_o kingdom_n doubtless_o their_o zeal_n in_o this_o kind_n be_v very_o great_a though_o alexander_n may_v conquer_v beyond_o the_o line_n of_o philip_n victory_n and_o i_o believe_v that_o it_o be_v more_o their_o zeal_n in_o this_o kind_n than_o any_o lukewarmnesse_n that_o be_v the_o cause_n of_o their_o cast_v out_o and_o to_o join_v with_o our_o antagonist_n in_o their_o admonition_n let_v other_o take_v heed_n of_o the_o like_a 80._o sect._n 80._o we_o shall_v light_o pass_v by_o their_o 21_o answer_n as_o contain_v little_a 80._o sect._n 80._o in_o it_o but_o this_o bare_a assertion_n that_o the_o ordinance_n in_o the_o word_n or_o intent_n of_o it_o give_v unto_o wicked_a man_n no_o advantage_n or_o opportunity_n to_o accuse_v the_o best_a minister_n of_o such_o thing_n which_o may_v touch_v their_o life_n or_o bring_v much_o trouble_n unto_o they_o but_o only_a give_v advantage_n to_o the_o best_a man_n to_o be_v rid_v of_o the_o worst_a minister_n with_o what_o conscience_n they_o speak_v thus_o i_o refer_v to_o themselves_o and_o their_o own_o conscience_n with_o what_o truth_n i_o refer_v to_o all_o unpartial_a consider_v man_n to_o judge_v be_v the_o minister_n who_o walk_v in_o the_o congregationall_a way_n the_o worst_a of_o minister_n for_o my_o part_n i_o hearty_o and_o as_o in_o the_o presence_n of_o the_o all-knowing_a god_n wish_v they_o be_v and_o that_o all_o those_o who_o be_v of_o a_o contrary_a judgement_n to_o they_o have_v the_o spirit_n of_o their_o grace_n knowledge_n and_o goodness_n in_o every_o kind_a double_a and_o treble_v upon_o they_o in_o their_o 22_o and_o 23_o answer_n p._n 24._o they_o tell_v we_o in_o effect_n 81._o sect._n 81._o what_o the_o wisdom_n of_o the_o parliament_n can_v and_o what_o their_o justice_n and_o care_n will_v no_o doubt_n do_v for_o the_o undo_n of_o all_o the_o ordinance_n intend_v to_o do_v for_o in_o